No mincing words here:
Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.“St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.
“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.
“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.
“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.â€Â
Notes Allah at Hot Air:
Needless to say, no one actually has to be prosecuted for this to work. Prosecution will be impossible anyway in most cases thanks to the First Amendment. The point isn’t to jail critics but merely to price the cost of prospective litigation into their decision on whether to publicly criticize The One. Add this to the threatening letters his lawyers sent to station managers over the NRA ads, the flash-mob smearing of David Freddoso, and the appeal to the Justice Department to prosecute the American Issues Project for its perfectly factual yet devastating Ayers ad. Oh, the fun we’ll have with a deep blue Congress and an Obama-run DOJ and FCC. He promised you a “new type of politics,†didn’t he?
And a new type of politics it will be, too! — not that old divisive kind of politics where one is constantly being sniped at by the so-called “loyal opposition,” but rather a new and harmonious politics of consensus and agreement, brought about by the stern and loving hand of those in government willing to do the hard work of putting an end to all this hate by legislating, intimidating, or hectoring into silence the unpatriotic ingrates who refuse to get with the orgy of love that is Obama’s America.
Because remember: Venezuela-type Utopias just don’t happen; first, you have to find someone who loves his country so much that he’s willing to take on the role of Chavez.
For the greater good. And, y’know — so his wife can finally be proud and all.
****
update: Obama’s campaign to unify America by keeping all messages the same continues apace:
A UMW spokeswoman says that the Obama campaign required the sign-and-banner ban [during an Obama rally]. That campaign tells us that the ban is for “security†reasons. But a spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service, responsible for protecting presidential candidates, says that the service has no objection to signs at rallies, provided that no “part of the sign could be used as a weaponâ€Â–e.g., a heavy metal pole or a sharpened stick. Finally, the McCain campaign tells us, “We encourage people to make signs at our events.â€Â
Maybe O! was afraid somebody would wave an American flag or something equally, you know, NASCAR-esque.
And like, how gauche is that?
(thanks to Darleen)
Comment by Jeffersonian on 9/27 @ 7:58 pm #
We’re gay…that’s the problem.
Comment by Jeff G. on 9/27 @ 8:00 pm #
Viva la Truth Squads!
Comment by dre on 9/27 @ 8:02 pm #
Black shirts? ah no, um, Brown shirts? er don’t go there, Mauve shirts? YES
Comment by dre on 9/27 @ 8:03 pm #
Madrassa of Chicago has a new franchising opportunity for you. Start up capital provide by ACORN Financial.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 9/27 @ 8:07 pm #
I’m going with lavender…yes, lavender. Then applying over at the Gateway Ministry of Truth.
Comment by Darleen on 9/27 @ 8:07 pm #
I remember saying something a while back that Obama was channeling the full-blown paranoid Nixon at his ratfucking best.
I wonder how long The One’s enemies list is at present.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 9/27 @ 8:11 pm #
I mean, how many legs did the Mob actually have to break for the lesson to get through to the rest?
Comment by Jeff G. on 9/27 @ 8:11 pm #
Hot Air will be forced to publish Kos Diarists. BECAUSE OF THE FAIRNESS!
Comment by David R. Block on 9/27 @ 8:13 pm #
Darleen,
Maybe that is why Mark Levin calls him Barack Milhouse Obama?
Naw, couldn’t be….
Comment by Jeff G. on 9/27 @ 8:14 pm #
protein wisdom will be forced to include “rebuttals” by datadave.
BECAUSE OF THE FAIRNESS!
Comment by Jeff G. on 9/27 @ 8:15 pm #
The Corner will be forced to run commentary by Rich Brookhiser.
BECAUSE OF — oh. Nevermind.
Comment by XBradTC on 9/27 @ 8:16 pm #
Or, Blunt could have mentioned that he had a big old stack of pardons just waiting to be signed.
Comment by dre on 9/27 @ 8:17 pm #
“Nobody puts ketchup on a hot dog” Inspector Callahan
Comment by steveaz on 9/27 @ 8:19 pm #
I just bought a roasted chicken and a bottle of wine at a Safeways in Flagstaff…
Lines were long at the checkout stand so I perused the tabloids while I waited to be rung-up. To the left and to the right were story after story about Sarah Palin’s “other man,” McCain’s battle against the trauma of alien abduction, and how Laura Bush was leaving George, again.
Nowhere, I mean nowhere, did I see a single piece on Obama. Nowhere. It’s as if there is a blackout on dissin’ O!, or something; as if saying “boo” to Obama is now a taboo…just like wearing your nipple-rings to your grandma’s pool-side birthday party is verboten…
A chill wind is blowing down the aisle of checkstand number 8.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 9/27 @ 8:19 pm #
MUSTARDIST!!
Comment by Darleen on 9/27 @ 8:21 pm #
What the Fairness Doctrine does to talk radio is that if, say, one has 3 hours highly successful Rush Limbaugh which makes oodles of ad revenue for the station because people actually listen to him…regardless of how many “dissenting” phone callers he takes, a station will have to run 3 hours of Randi Rhodes, which will be a loser in more ways than one.
Station throws up hands, cancels its “talk format”, fires almost all humans and gets a robo machine and converts to an AM Top 40 station.
It’s like how the Dems are looking to ban secret ballots for employees voting on whether to unionize or not.
The risk of dissenting against the powers that be is too costly.
Comment by meya on 9/27 @ 8:22 pm #
He should buy himself like 10 million bucks worth of brutality.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/09/04
Comment by Darleen on 9/27 @ 8:23 pm #
steveaz
Let’s see how many comedians will dare dis The One after he becomes President.
Pay no attention to the thugs in the wings on Open Mic night at the Comedy Club.
Comment by meya on 9/27 @ 8:27 pm #
“Prosecution will be impossible anyway in most cases thanks to the First Amendment. ”
Prosecutors caring about the first amendment? Ok. If you say so. No worries then.
Comment by Sdferr on 9/27 @ 8:32 pm #
I dig the headline “GOP convention lawsuits” as opposed to “Police misconduct lawsuits” or, if warranted, “Police brutality lawsuits”.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 9/27 @ 8:32 pm #
Comment by Spiny Norman on 9/27 @ 8:33 pm #
Damn, damn HTML…
Comment by dre on 9/27 @ 8:38 pm #
Damning HTML. I seen alot that sort of stuff happening here. I request that you look into your own souls and explore your inner BusHitler of your HTMLism.
Comment by mishu on 9/27 @ 8:48 pm #
We are the fascists we’ve been waiting for.
Comment by Blitz on 9/27 @ 8:53 pm #
Darleen? re your #16
Cost is not an issue to them. They are what they are, they do what they do. An end is what they want and the means be damned. They WANT this “experiment” destroyed.
I put it that way because from talking to many leftists of all ages (my daughters friends, my peers and my customers) The Proggs simply believe that as a Country, The US is a work in proGGress…and yes, I spelled that correctly. They honestly believe the MSM hype and lies,no matter how much I and others try to steer them to places like this.
Comment by dre on 9/27 @ 8:54 pm #
Yea but you know DESIGNER FACISTS
Comment by takeshi kovacs on 9/27 @ 8:56 pm #
We have seen such tactics withthe ‘coletilla’
that Fidel used in Cuba, before silencing the Diario de la Marina; the counterpart to the Wall Street Journal; intervened against Bohemia; the Time Magazine equivalent which ahd supported his rise to power, A generation later, the Sandinistas cut back the newsprint to La Prensa; which took a dim view of their malfeasance, and their genocide
against the Miskito indians. Chavez’s tactics against the Cisneros after the 2002 coup attempt; driving RCN out of business, and into exile. The irony of a former coup plotter, whose efforts in ‘91, so inhinged the economy complaining about a coup against him, seems a bit much. There’s of course, Putin’s campaign against the MOST/Gusinsky
network, who challenged their influence. The difference here, is that all those instances
occurred after they took power.
Comment by Darleen on 9/27 @ 9:01 pm #
The One has banned at signs at a public rally on a public university campus
Comment by Darleen on 9/27 @ 9:01 pm #
oh lord … “banned all signs”
I blame the gin.
Comment by Blitz on 9/27 @ 9:06 pm #
May I be optimistic for a moment though? I have a daughter (pregnant) who will teach her child about the freedoms bought by others before us and the necessary commitment by all of us to ensure that they continue, (Whew, I’m out of big words, Lowly High school grad here) So all is not lost. Jeffs boy,Carin’s kids,Darleens adult kids…it’s a start.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/27 @ 9:11 pm #
“…have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.”
Scratch a lefty, find a fascist.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/27 @ 9:16 pm #
“Comment by Jeffersonian on 9/27 @ 8:11 pm #
I mean, how many legs did the Mob actually have to break for the lesson to get through to the rest?”
Do you know how to tell when you’re in a restaurant run by the Mafia?
They have “Broken Leg Of Lamb” on the menu.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 9/27 @ 9:30 pm #
“Do you know how to tell when you’re in a restaurant run by the Mafia?”
- I heard you could tell because there were always some cement trucks in the back parking lot.
Comment by Obersti on 9/27 @ 9:30 pm #
Pavambu
Chawa
Comment by Richard Bennett on 9/27 @ 9:56 pm #
That’s some powerful shit you’re smoking, Jefferson G.
Comment by Darleen on 9/27 @ 10:06 pm #
Well, another refugee from Biden’s alternate America has shown up.
Goody.
Comment by dre on 9/27 @ 10:11 pm #
Bank Death Pool cont.:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/wash-mu-bondholders-were-not-paid.html
Comment by Darleen on 9/27 @ 10:13 pm #
Separated at birth?
Discuss
Comment by JuliaM on 9/27 @ 10:19 pm #
“A UMW spokeswoman says that the Obama campaign required the sign-and-banner ban [during an Obama rally]. That campaign tells us that the ban is for “security†reasons.”
Not because it’s embarassing to see that some of his followers are idiots then?
http://punditkitchen.com/2008/09/22/political-pictures-barack-obama-supporting-doing-wrong/
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 9/27 @ 10:22 pm #
A UMW spokeswoman says that the Obama campaign required the sign-and-banner ban [during an Obama rally]. That campaign tells us that the ban is for “security†reasons. But a spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service, responsible for protecting presidential candidates, says that the service has no objection to signs at rallies, provided that no “part of the sign could be used as a weaponâ€Â–e.g., a heavy metal pole or a sharpened stick. Finally, the McCain campaign tells us, “We encourage people to make signs at our events.â€Â
and the ACLU rejoiced!
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 9/27 @ 10:28 pm #
So what happens if Obama is elected and because he’s such a fucking pussy, no protests? No million man marches that oppose Obama’s war in Afghanistan? Nothing? Just Obama’s little gitmos speckled about to house his critics?
Comment by MikeD on 9/27 @ 10:41 pm #
This is a bit off topic, I suppose, and for that I apologize but the increasingly fascistic behavior or the “opposition” raises this issue for me. Ignore if you wish; the question is really for MAJ John.
The stifling of free expression in the name of political “fairness†and the margins of fascistic behavior being explored by both Obama’s formal and shadow campaign are, I find, disconcerting if not outright frightening. One wonders to what extreme these might ultimately rise. One hopes nothing of real consequence will ever manifest itself and all such anxieties will amount to nothing. Yes, one hopes.
On the other hand the left, abetted by the MSM, seems seldom to be constrained by reason or classical liberalism, as Jeff has gone to some pains to describe, and seems bent on a strategy to subvert history and pursue a condition the founders and conservatives in general find increasingly uncomfortable and might more accurately characterize as a national horror. And that ultimately raises the possibility of a condition beyond rational resolution; one where only violent response or action can resolve evolving direction or preserve the traditions and values of 200 plus years. Of course, we can deny that such an eventuality would ever come to pass but occasionally one is drawn to ponder such eventualities.
And the question that then comes to mind is one for MAJ John, who on a number of occasions in this forum, has been adamant about the oath he has sworn as a member of our military and the obligation he and so many of his colleagues feel to preserve the republic and oppose any violent opposition to its seated government. And believe me, I truly admire both his sentiments and moral position. But that moral position, I would suggest, presupposes historical values and conditions embodied in a document seemingly held in small regard by too many on the left. At what point, indeed is there a point, where conditions and national direction obviate the oath and moral positions of men such as MAJ John and the military? Are there conditions that give such patriots pause and concern? Or does an oath to preserve and protect take precedent over form and function to the point where the military and men like MAJ John must blindly serve what other reasonable persons may judge to be illegitimate and a prostitution of original intentâ€â€even if that prostitution is ostensibly backed, in so far as it is possible to determine accurately, by a majority? Sorry if this strays too much from discussion but I find myself quite curious about this. The question keeps raising its ugly head.
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/27 @ 10:44 pm #
Arrest the Governor…He’s…He’s…He’s, speaking badly about O!…
Can you believe that this is brought to you by the same bunch that trots out the first amendment on a regular basis, encourages their supporters to “Get in their face”, and believes that shouting down critics, jamming their phone lines with worthless calls, and crashing servers by spamming are lefitimate and honorable campaign tactics??? WTF???
*sigh* I guess it’s more of that new kind of politics I keep hearing so much about these days…
O!
Comment by dre on 9/27 @ 10:45 pm #
Designer St. Louis jump suits
Comment by eCurmudgeon on 9/27 @ 10:48 pm #
Only with the proposed changes to music licensing rates that radio stations may start having to pay, it may make more sense to get out of the radio business altogether.
Not unlike, say, Clear Channel deciding that focusing on outdoor advertising is a safer business path…
Comment by dre on 9/27 @ 11:00 pm #
Will O!, who likes Communist China so much, start blocking the intertubes? Axelrod & Roses!
Comment by maggie katzen on 9/27 @ 11:07 pm #
O! is just aggressively responding to attacks. HE WILL NOT BE SWIFTBOATED!
Comment by cjd on 9/27 @ 11:08 pm #
I wonder who will be the Dzerzhinsky/Yagoda/Yeszhov/Beria figure in the new administration. Any guesses?
Comment by Neo on 9/27 @ 11:39 pm #
We need somebody in Missouri to file a formal complaint to the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice claiming intimidation by St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, Senator Claire McCaskill and Barack Obama.
I’m real serious about this.
Comment by MC on 9/27 @ 11:47 pm #
But…but…it’s the Show Me State!
Comment by MAJ (P) John on 9/27 @ 11:53 pm #
“At what point, indeed is there a point, where conditions and national direction obviate the oath and moral positions of men such as MAJ John and the military? Are there conditions that give such patriots pause and concern? Or does an oath to preserve and protect take precedent over form and function to the point where the military and men like MAJ John must blindly serve what other reasonable persons may judge to be illegitimate and a prostitution of original intentâ€â€even if that prostitution is ostensibly backed, in so far as it is possible to determine accurately, by a majority?”
I don’t quite have the time to respond in the depth I would like to - but I can think of a couple of examples of when at lest I wouldn’t go along… shoot protestors that aren’t threatening life, safety or property. Or closing down a church, media outlet or such on a simple declaration that I must do so for the greater good, yada yada yada. Nobody in the US Armed Forces would go along with any Chavez style nonsense, so I don’t see that as a possibility.
I worry less about Sen Obama’s shabby attempts to silence critics as much as I dread the joyous participation in self-limiting, in what is said or done. An Army of Durantys, if you will.
Jeff has already pointed out what a danger this is to a free society. And as I have mentioned, it seems like the “new” media has started to mature just in the nick of time. People like Jeff and the rest of PJM are becoming less a nice thing to have around, but more like an essential one.
I am going to go hit the Tip Jar right now, and I would ask the rest of you to consider doing so when you can.
Comment by cjd on 9/28 @ 12:03 am #
Just to add to my previous comment. This is pretty shameful that this is going on in the the state of my birth and where I grew up. But, it also explains a lot why my Dad packed us up and moved just over the border to Overland Park, KS. Of course, now we’re in the hands of Gov. Katherine “Republicans are racists” Sebelius. Out of the bedpan, into the…well, you get it.
Comment by Republican on Acid on 9/28 @ 12:53 am #
I am not so sure how much longer people are going to be civil about this shit. I seriously can’t ever remember being as angry as I am right now. This complete and total criminality is driving me nutty. More Republicans need to go on national news shows and tell the public about this sort of thing. It needs to get out to everyone before its too late.
Comment by thor on 9/28 @ 1:16 am #
When was the last time you had your nose flattened by a Democrat?
Comment by Republican on Acid on 9/28 @ 1:43 am #
I am not worried about my nose, I am worried about yours.
Comment by Darleen on 9/28 @ 1:56 am #
Democrats aren’t honest enough to fight face to face
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 9/28 @ 2:26 am #
I’m not concerned about the men and women in our armed forces. The ones at the pointy end of the spear who are laying their lives on the line to bring freedom to people in far off lands.
The ones that are of concern will be the freshly minted graduates of the many “Camp Obamas”. The young activist “volunteers” in Obama’s civilian equivalent of the military. Spread over the land, doing their “patriotic” (in the Pelosian sense) duty for their messiah.
Comment by Rusty on 9/28 @ 5:09 am #
Yer honor. I done know what da problem is. Eeverybody knows da ‘lightworker’ needs some help aroun electiontime. Ya knows. Like Santa Clause aand his elves……………….you got a problem wit dis?
Comment by Obama for Omerica on 9/28 @ 6:04 am #
New Obama Campaign Poster Released for Missouri
Campaign is testing it out there and will be going national with it in all 57 states if they can get away with it.
Here is the Link:
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/zuule/BarryObummer/WelcomeToMissouri.jpg
Comment by alppuccino on 9/28 @ 6:50 am #
When was the last time you had your nose flattened by a Democrat?
I believe this is a rhetorical question. I think thor is pointing out that Democrats are not violent people, so when at loggerheads, never fear a democrat.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 6:54 am #
“The root problems of a government policy encouraging bad loans, corporate and government greed”
Of course you know that there is NO guarantee that a WorldWide Depression will not occur even if the bailout (which seems to be done) is passed.
The problem is; consumer confidence. That’s what all the hubub is about.
They want us to think this is an anomaly which occurred because a few bankers got greedy.(It’s such a rare event!!)
The problem is; we’ve had 28 years of happy economic horseshit from the
RWR Devotees, endlessly pontificating that the best climate for all is one in which piss is perceived as rainfall, and that a ‘golden shower’ truly enriches all.
Regulation by government is bad for business, because it hampers the creative efforts of the truly gifted (SOCIOPATHS!!!) amongst us.
That Republican swill is the true opiate of the masses which fostered some, or all of the mindless personal credit spending of the last 10 years, wherein the delusional belief that housing values would continue to grow exponentially, would allow us to continue to raid that equity to buy toys and shit.
Why else would the Commander-in-Chief suggest, that for the sake of the country, we should all just ‘go shopping’ as a remedy to our angst following 9/11?
We have to keep shopping in order for the whole house of cards to be perpetuated, but the Butcher’s Bill was inevitable.
Forsake ‘VooDoo Economics’ forever as you would any Republican lie.
Do it for the good of the country.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 6:55 am #
“Comment by thor on 9/28 @ 1:16 am #
When was the last time you had your nose flattened by a Democrat?”
Ah, thor is familiar with flattened noses.
Now go wipe your chin.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 6:56 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 6:54 am #
Do you speak English?
Comment by ThomasD on 9/28 @ 6:57 am #
Exactly. Because unions, and their mafiosi good squads are card carrying republicans to the core.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 6:57 am #
Marxism is the opiate of the intellectual.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 7:07 am #
NO’B…..
Quack, quack…..
Comment by MAJ (P) John on 9/28 @ 7:24 am #
Now everyone - TTP list should have already included s’cleo. Plenty o’ evidence from here and Just One Minute as to why…
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 7:31 am #
“Just One Minute as to why…+
And just as many reasons to go allow my assertions to remain unanswered.
“By their silence, they concur………”
Comment by happyfeet on 9/28 @ 7:36 am #
Shopping is how you get things what make your life better. Like area rugs and squiggly bulbs and bath towels and free weights and birthday presents for your mom.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 7:48 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 7:07 am #
Ah, you speak Duck.
Gat a translator you can use?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 7:50 am #
Got….
S/B got.
I was laughing so hard at seman’s mindless reply I committed a typo.
Maybe seman should change it’s name to semanticDonald.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 7:53 am #
Maybe sematicMerganser.
Quack quack.
Comment by Ric Locke on 9/28 @ 8:11 am #
Not so fast, guys. Semanticleo is simply expressing what is effectively the vector sum of left-center opinion on the matter.
The fact that she contradicts herself directly without being conscious of it, well, that’s just the way it works. (That is, she observes, quite correctly, that a major problem is consumer confidence. She then excoriates Bush for making a joke intended to bolster consumer confidence — “go shopping”, i.e., if you worry too much you’ll make things worse, so act normally as best you can, which is true.)
What always amazes me about the POV Semanticleo espouses is that she sees a difference that isn’t apparent to me. That is, banks and finance companies are big organizations full of people bent on self-aggrandizement; a “regulatory agency” is a big organization full of people bent on self-aggrandizement; therefore turning control of the first over to the second is a big improvement for everybody??!!??
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 8:34 am #
“therefore turning control of the first over to the second is a big improvement for everybody??!!??”
Well then, you won’t object to the Billions in tax dollars saved when we
loose all the sociopaths in Federal Prison. Because we kain’t has no
REGULATION since our prison system is an imperfect regulation of criminal types.
Or would you rather: ‘Let’s get all the criminals off the street to make it safe for the White collar business criminals.’
Comment by Darleen on 9/28 @ 8:36 am #
Ric Locke
To examine the basic core of anti-capitalists is to find people who wish to suspend the law of gravity. They engage in magical thinking and when they step off the roof and splat against the sidewalk, they don’t blame themselves, they blame gravity and the building.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/28 @ 8:38 am #
Liberals are so drama queen dramatic. This is why Baracky will fail and flounder. People have had enough drama for now I think. Normal is a lot the state of equilibrium, not Baracky’s frantic socialisms.
Comment by Pablo on 9/28 @ 8:46 am #
The stoopid is thick this morning.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 8:55 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 8:34 am #
Quack quack!
Comment by maye on 9/28 @ 8:57 am #
Why ban signs in a content neutral manner? Just have some college kapos kick out the people based on the content of their political convictions.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?pid=1423
Much fairer.
Comment by Darleen on 9/28 @ 8:58 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 8:34 am #
Whoa, we’re gonna need some bigger hipwaders.
Comment by Darleen on 9/28 @ 9:02 am #
#79
Hmmmmm….
The police officers explained the rally was a private event and the organizers could pick and choose who would attend.
yep, exactly the same thing.
you’re part of Obama’s
brownshirtsTroooooth Squad, right?Comment by Darleen on 9/28 @ 9:03 am #
ok, tag-fu off this morning. I’m under caffeinated.
Comment by Cave Bear on 9/28 @ 9:05 am #
I don’t have a problem with answering Semanticlit’s bullshit. The simple fact is the reason all this is happening is because the Commeicrats forced banks to issue sub-prime loans to the “disadvantaged”, who in fact could not afford them, especially when the grace period ended, and the mortgage interest rate went up, as it inevitably was going to. So, to quote Malcolm X, “the chickens have come home to roost”, thanks to your D’rat pals.
And yes, both the e-vil Bushitler/Cheney/Halliburton/Rove/Rethuglican cabal, and McCain tried to stop this, or at least ameliorate it years ago, but people like Barney “Do me, Daddy, do me” Frank, Chris “Countrywide” Dodd and others of the crypto-Marxist opposition blocked them. So here we are…
Spout your DKos/DU memes all you want, ‘clit. Just don’t expect everyone to have consumed the Kool-Aid like you have.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 9:08 am #
NB: Seman-boy is ignoring the thread immediately previous to this one, despite that thread being on-topic for what Semen-boy wants to discuss.
Me thinks Semen-boy wants to disrupt discussion of the left’s thuggish tactics more than he wants to actually discuss any real issue.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 9:13 am #
“discuss any real issue.”
I don’t think Jeff meant this thread to be serious, unless mirrors are prohibited…..
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 9:18 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 9:13 am #
Quack quack!
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 9:19 am #
I rest my case.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 9:19 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 9:13 am #
Do you speak English seman?
You never answer my question.
Comment by slackjawedyokel on 9/28 @ 9:28 am #
To return just briefly to MikeD’s and MAJ(P)John’s comments:
Nearly forty years ago I swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Not the sitting administration. The Constitution.
How that document is interpreted and applied, and at what point elected authority ceases to be lawful, and therefore obeyed, is a moral dilemma that I thank God I have never faced. It frightens me to think this is a question that we may, in the not too distant future, have to confront.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/28 @ 9:35 am #
Baracky scares a lot of people. At the debate the other night he said he might could back off some of his agenda cause of the economy. But he was lying. Frantic Democrats in total control of government would be an orgy of socialisms I think. Card checks and carbon credits and government healthcare and mandatory volunteerisms and defense cuts and no oil drillings and taxes taxes taxes and obeisances to the United Nations and an America down on one knee.
Comment by Sdferr on 9/28 @ 9:39 am #
Mark Steyn and Stanley Kurtz on Obama’s intimidation tactics at the Corner.
Comment by dre on 9/28 @ 9:42 am #
hf
O’ Hail the Messiah Lord Obama
Comment by steveaz on 9/28 @ 9:43 am #
The one outlet left to Obama-critics is to damn him with fake praise. That way, O’s sense of self will go unruffled and the critic can still score a hit without going to jail.
Some examples: Barak is soooooo smart, he rivals God in his omniscience. Or, Barak is an expert at politics. Or, I wish I was as good-looking as Barak is. Or, Barak could be King, he’s so regal.
To the religious hoi-polloi in an anti-numinous, vanity-averse ex-monarchy, these are all obvious put-downs. But, to “the One,” they’ll be construed as fawning compliments.
“Praise” him loudly enough, and you may even get a cabinet position. But, call him a “Liar,” or worse, and your kid won’t get admitted to Colombia University (Pakistani patronage politics are coming to a town near you).
Comment by thor on 9/28 @ 9:46 am #
I wonder if they’ll issue you sunscreen at Gitmo.
Comment by Dr. Weevil on 9/28 @ 9:53 am #
Is the title of this post a pun? “Mo. Gov. Blunt Statement” could be read as meaning a blunt statement by the Missouri governor, or a statement by Missouri Governor Blunt.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 9/28 @ 9:54 am #
The fantasy comes full circle! Bush wouldn’t oblige the libs by turning Gitmo into a Gulag, libs go into tantrum mode b/c they look like fools, now libs fantasize about sending those critical of the O! to Gitmo. Coming soon to a small town, um, theater near you!
Comment by happyfeet on 9/28 @ 9:54 am #
shoot. I am at work and YouTube is blocked, dre. Sometimes it gets through anyway but not now. It’s just cause of bandwidth, not fascisms I don’t think, but it’s still sort of an odd approach to the problem.
Comment by SteveG on 9/28 @ 9:57 am #
http://www.holocaust-trc.org/sinti.htm
I look forward to my green triangle
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 10:00 am #
“Comment by thor on 9/28 @ 9:46 am #
I wonder if they’ll issue you sunscreen at Gitmo.”
Oh, thor, you silly goose, you KNOW that it’s always reactionart y leftist fascists who maintain death camps.
The Nazi concentration camps, the Soviet Gulag, the whatever it is the Chinese commies call thier’s, hell all of Cambodia under Pol Pot.
Are you saying Obama fits the profile?
Comment by happyfeet on 9/28 @ 10:01 am #
Baracky will do what he’s told I think.
Comment by Jack Klompus on 9/28 @ 10:05 am #
Always listen to the wise words of Semanticleo, the one who once claimed, “This ain’t algebra where a negative plus a negative is a positive.”
Comment by Dash Rendar on 9/28 @ 10:06 am #
“negative plus a negative is a positive”
Fake but accurate, or something.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 10:08 am #
So I guess the group stipulates (who, by their silence, obviate) that REGULATION is a necessary evil, that any argument to the contrary is
rendered irrelevant.
On to the next point………
If we are to Nationalize private industry, and with NO promise of profit
from the venture, the bean-counter in me wishes to balance the ledger.
Since we are going to NATIONALIZE the Fiancial Sector, which is of dubious value, why not NATIONALIZE profitable enterprises to provide a hedge against those self-same potential losses.
How ’bout the PETROLEUM INDUSTRY…….
the PHARMACEUTICALS………..
THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE……………
THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY…………..
THE LIQUOR INDUSTRY………………………
That’ll do for a start……………………..
Comment by happyfeet on 9/28 @ 10:10 am #
Life is not a Lego playset you big socialist dork.
Comment by SDN on 9/28 @ 10:11 am #
meya #19: I agree. Whenever I hear someone saying that the First Amendment will stop any prosecutor, I have to laugh.
Montgomery, AL, 1982-83: DA Jimmy Evans, fresh from his victorious lawsuit against the satellite TV company that broadcast the Playboy channel because those broadcasts could be received in AL, sent a letter around to all the bookstores in Montgomery, including the B. Dalton’s I was working in at the time, demanding they remove all the Playboy and Penthouse magazines from the shelves and sell it from behind the counter. If they didn’t, he would have the manager and assistant manager arrested for “facilitating access of obscene materials by minors” since any teenager could pick one up and read it in the store.
He concluded: “I know that when this case is appealed to the Supreme Court, I’ll lose. However, the manager and assistant manager will be denied bail and will sit in jail until I do. Is it worth it?”
B. Dalton immediately told the manager to remove the magazines, and since company policy prohibited the sale of items that couldn’t be on the shelves, they stopped selling them in Montgomery for several years.
It isn’t enough to win the appeal unless the prosecutor can be jailed for abusing his authority. And they should be.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 10:14 am #
“Life is not a Lego playset you big socialist dork.”
Gee, you’re not nice………………
Comment by happyfeet on 9/28 @ 10:15 am #
I share my toys already I don’t need nobody to share them for me. That’s not sharing that’s stealing.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 10:17 am #
“That’ll do for a start……………………..”
Did I mention we won’t have to raise their taxes, and they won’t have to worry about Capital Gains……………………..
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 10:24 am #
Again, Semen-boy has argued in favor of slavery. His boner for stealing the work of others under the euphemism “nationalization” should be no surprise.
Comment by Darleen on 9/28 @ 10:27 am #
Would someone like to explain to Cleo that belief in sound traffic management doesn’t mean banning private ownership of cars?
Comment by Victor. on 9/28 @ 10:27 am #
cleo,
I understand that you are convinced that this financial crisis was a result of deregulation, I have a question for you.
What regulation, or lack of regulation, can you specifically cite that would have prevented the Triple A credit rating of these sub-prime bundles?
thanks.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 10:32 am #
“I understand that you are convinced that this financial crisis was a result of deregulation”
You fail to understand the BIG picture of which the Financial debacle is merely a symptom. If you want to know the root causes of the meltdown, read
the following words and remember…………………………….
“Government isn’t the solution to the problem, it IS the problem.”
RWR
Comment by B Moe on 9/28 @ 10:34 am #
Is someone else posting as cleo? She usually doesn’t stick around this long and the style has changed noticeably. This shit is really getting tiresome.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 9/28 @ 10:35 am #
Heh. “Government isn’t the solution to the problem, it IS the problem,” so we should have more gov. regulation. Um, sure.
“the BIG picture of which the Financial debacle is merely a symptom,” of a government that mandates x% of mortgages be sub-prime, cf. FM/FM, and the wall street firms that but derivatives of said mortgages.
Try again.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 10:36 am #
I have not changed, maybe it’s you…..
Comment by Dash Rendar on 9/28 @ 10:38 am #
You still haven’t answered Vic’s question Semantic. O please, enlighten us to the BIG PICTURE!!11!.
Comment by Victor. on 9/28 @ 10:53 am #
Oh sorry, I thought you actually believed your own bullshit when you were saying this:
I understand that you have basically changed your argument, I just was wondering if you had any way to site where “VooDoo Economics” forced credit rating agencies to tell the world that sub-prime bundles were AAA investments?
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 11:00 am #
“I understand that you have basically changed your argument”
You sure lay claim to a lot of ‘understanding’ that isn’t supported by your own admission; and that I didn’t answer the way you wished.
Get the big picture?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 11:03 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 11:00 am #
Quack quack!
Comment by Dash Rendar on 9/28 @ 11:06 am #
Arguments consist of stipulations based on facts.
The original question stands:
“What regulation, or lack of regulation, can you specifically cite that would have prevented the Triple A credit rating of these sub-prime bundles?”
We’re waiting.
Comment by Rusty on 9/28 @ 11:07 am #
#115
Ah. I believe I see your problem right there.
Comment by B Moe on 9/28 @ 11:07 am #
Sorry cleo, I thought thor was being cute again. I don’t know which of you should be more embarassed.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 11:09 am #
Sorry cleo, I thought thor was being cute again.
An unintended compliment…..like consequences, seems beneath your radar.
Comment by Darleen on 9/28 @ 11:10 am #
cleo uses the word “consequences”
heh
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 11:10 am #
WTF is it with people who refuse to make a clear statement? And who act as if failure to understand their obfuscations is the readers’ fault?
If you want to take a position, state it. If you’re incapable of stating it in a manner that is understandable, then you need to go away, think it over, and come back when you understand your own position enough to make it understandable.
Writing down your internal dialog takes no intelligence or effort. Stating your beliefs in a manner that’s understandable takes effort — and if you don’t take that effort, it can only mean you don’t give a rat’s ass about communicating your beliefs.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 9/28 @ 11:11 am #
A sense of irony is poor with this one.
Still waiting Semanticleo.
Comment by MikeD on 9/28 @ 11:20 am #
Thanks, slackjawedyokel, for your clarifying statement at #89. I should have recognized that it is, in fact, the Constitution that is intended to be defended, not any particular sitting administration. Given our apparent national “direction” I think the moral question and dilemma you identify really is a frightening issue that all of us, not just the military, may have to confront far too soon. Thanks for clarifying the issue far better than I did, and in far fewer words.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 11:22 am #
Good luck with with getting and answer from duck-boy, Dash.
He absolutely refuses to answer the question I’ve been posing to him for months now.
But, what the hell, just for shits and giggles, I’ll try again:
seman, do you speak English?
Comment by Dash Rendar on 9/28 @ 11:27 am #
Meh, I expected as much. I think he has enough self-awareness to realize his argument will be eviscerated as quick as ethanol evaporating off a dry counter top.
Comment by Education Guy on 9/28 @ 11:50 am #
Leo is easier to understand if you get that he pictures himself as Jesus giving knowledge through parables. Only in his case, there is far more smearing of feces on walls.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 11:51 am #
You first; Try the ‘nationalization’ of profitable corps.
Is it doable? (not like Palin is ‘doable’)
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 11:52 am #
“Leo is easier to understand if…”
Well I’ve tired simple, declarative sentences, but still no takers…..
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 11:54 am #
Semen can’t answer questions. It’s too stupid.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/28 @ 11:57 am #
“Comment by Dash Rendar on 9/28 @ 11:27 am #
Meh, I expected as much. I think he has enough self-awareness…”
Don’t be too sure.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 9/28 @ 12:02 pm #
- The mail is running 98% against the bailout plan, so the Dems are in a panic, watching their nannystate boat sink slowly in the West.
- The Reps aren’t going to budge until the Dems strip out all the feather bedding for their activist friends. ACORN and community organizing, CAC, ext, are all toast.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 9/28 @ 12:03 pm #
“You first; Try the ‘nationalization’ of profitable corps.
Is it doable?”
It doesn’t speak English.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 9/28 @ 12:05 pm #
- thor-boy, semi-dufus, your Chia pets are going to due.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 12:07 pm #
No, you haven’t. You’ve made statements but not bothered to connect them back to any argument.
I mean, after all, Herodotus was a well-traveled man.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 9/28 @ 12:08 pm #
- No funding for the Socialist fucks - A good day for America.
Comment by Semanticleo on 9/28 @ 12:42 pm #
“I mean, after all, Herodotus was a well-traveled man.”
Holy Moly….first it’s Jesus then it’s Herodotus….
what must you think of me?
Comment by guinsPen on 9/28 @ 12:44 pm #
I don’t think of you at all.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 12:46 pm #
Tim Curry doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
Comment by Victor. on 9/28 @ 12:48 pm #
I guess the up-shot is that Cleo isn’t even pretending to defend his argument anymore.
Comment by ushie on 9/28 @ 12:56 pm #
Semanticleo types: Well I’ve tired simple, declarative sentences
No, you haven’t tired them at all. You’ve never exercised a simple sentence in simple declarative words in your entire life.
Comment by lee on 9/28 @ 1:02 pm #
the up-shot is that Cleo isn’t even pretending to defend his argument anymore.
Anymore?!
When did it ever?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 9/28 @ 1:07 pm #
Who is this “Semanticleo” you’re talking about? I see no “Semanticleo” here.
Heh.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 1:19 pm #
You MUST share your new toy, SBP. I tried to write one the other day, but don’t know enough about Greasemonkey to get it to work.
Comment by Jack Klompus on 9/28 @ 1:23 pm #
Hey Cleo, how about another math lesson like you gave over at Just One Minute?
Comment by B Moe on 9/28 @ 1:42 pm #
148 Link please?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 9/28 @ 2:03 pm #
You MUST share your new toy, SBP.
On the Pub now, Rob.
Comment by Jim in Kansas City, MO on 9/28 @ 2:36 pm #
On Their Own Time - NOT Illegal
Blunt said he has “exposed plans.” He does not site any incident of actual treats to anyone.
Frank Donatelli, deputy chairman of the Republican National Committee:
http://tinyurl.com/4anoxc
I watched the video. There was no statement from the interviewed individuals to indicate they planned to doing anything in their official capacity of enforcing laws.
Matt Blunt is a sleaze that is leaving office because Missourians would never reelect him. He is looking for a job in the McCain administration.
Sen. Claire McCaskill is too smart to do anything that stupid. She was Missouri’s State Auditor and a prosecuting attorney.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 9/28 @ 2:50 pm #
Very good, Jim.
Now go tell Axelrod that you deserve a bonus for making good use of bold face in your copy-paste troll.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 3:21 pm #
So it’s OK, then? I mean, it’s OK if law-enforcement officials make legal threats when they’re off the clock, because then you can assume they won’t carry them out when they’re on the clock?
Does anyone else remember the shrieks and horror when an administration spokesman said people need to be careful what they say? It was a “chill wind” sweeping away the 1st Amendment, remember?
Oh, but that was on the job, not in his personal capacity, right? Yet the lack of any threat wasn’t enough to keep it from being spun as a threat. But in this case, an explicit threat is spun as nothing, because, hey, they didn’t say they’d do anything in their professional capacities.
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Comment by Darleen on 9/28 @ 3:25 pm #
Hey Jim
I worked in a DA office for over 10 years… the kind of thing those prosecutors did on tape would have them suspended from their jobs in a New York minute and have the state bar start an investigation.
Comment by TmjUtah on 9/28 @ 5:41 pm #
If TmjUtah, unemployed surveyor, sits down in his trademark hugeous suspendered blue jeans and sweatstained ball hat and makes an internet video saying he’s going to bring suit against people that lie about his candidate, people wonder how a guy with a butt that big found a lens big enough to make the video. They may or may not bother to rate or leave a comment.
If TmjUtah, state’s attorney for the State of Missouri, and a sworn officer of the court, sits down with local and national news networks and on video says that he is going to prosecute people who lie or make false claims about a particular political figure, well that’s fascism with no warning label needed.
One gets laughed at, and justifiably so. The other? Are you sure you want that hassle? He’s the STATE.
He’d be unemployed were there standards of professional conduct in the State of Missouri. His, and his lady friend’s, continued celebrity status indicate that their aren’t.
Or is Missouri one of those states that keep polls open late if Democrats are behind? Ah… never mind.
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Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/28 @ 6:05 pm #
Speaking from personal experience — fish-eye lens.
Comment by TmjUtah on 9/28 @ 6:57 pm #
Got me there, Rob. Found one that worked on ebay.
Tripod weighs thirty five pounds, though.
Comment by Jim in Kansas City, MO on 9/28 @ 7:58 pm #
The reporter plans to hold a news conference to correct the story
Reporter: Obama ‘truth squad’ story got twisted
http://tinyurl.com/47pge7
Frank Donatelli, deputy chairman of the Republican National Committee:
“In a telephone interview with the News-Leader, Donatelli admitted the Democratic prosecutors “haven’t specifically said†they would use their prosecutorial powers on Obama’s behalf.”"
http://tinyurl.com/4anoxc
Comment by Darleen on 9/28 @ 7:59 pm #
Jim
read #155
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 9/28 @ 8:04 pm #
Darleen: “Jim” is a copy-paste troll.
He won’t read or respond to anything you say.
Comment by thor on 9/29 @ 12:16 am #
Hyperventilating r-winger trolls are again grasping for their asthma inhalers.
Can’t breath! Obama in the lead! Ack! Pppft!
Comment by Jim in Killa City on 9/29 @ 6:18 am #
I just want to point out that this is not the original “Jim in KC.”
Comment by Jim in KC on 9/29 @ 6:23 am #
I’m not sure who that schlub was, but it’s a bit hard to imagine why county prosecutors feel the need to inject themselves into the national race. Maybe it’s just a resurgence of machine politics.
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