Excerpts from Gov. Palin’s interview with ABC’s Charlie Gibson, who tries hard to turn a “soccer Mom” into, well, Ahmanidinejihadiwhatever:
GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, “Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.” Are we fighting a holy war?
PALIN: You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.
GIBSON: Exact words.
PALIN: But the reference there is a repeat of Abraham Lincoln’s words when he said — first, he suggested never presume to know what God’s will is, and I would never presume to know God’s will or to speak God’s words.
But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that’s a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God’s side.
That’s what that comment was all about, Charlie.
GIBSON: I take your point about Lincoln’s words, but you went on and said, “There is a plan and it is God’s plan.”
PALIN: I believe that there is a plan for this world and that plan for this world is for good. I believe that there is great hope and great potential for every country to be able to live and be protected with inalienable rights that I believe are God-given, Charlie, and I believe that those are the rights to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
That, in my world view, is a grand — the grand plan.
GIBSON: But then are you sending your son on a task that is from God?
PALIN: I don’t know if the task is from God, Charlie. What I know is that my son has made a decision. I am so proud of his independent and strong decision he has made, what he decided to do and serving for the right reasons and serving something greater than himself and not choosing a real easy path where he could be more comfortable and certainly safer.
Hilariously leading stuff that — without all the journalistic pretensions and statesmanship — might have played out closer to this:
GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, “Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.” Are we fighting a holy war?
PALIN: No. But our enemies think they are. Or haven’t you been listening?
GIBSON: Fine. But c’mon, admit it. You’re a cheap backwoods godbotherer who believes the Lord is fighting on the side of America.
PALIN: If you say so. I like to think fighting for good is fighting on the side of God, but you probably know more about my religious beliefs than me. By the way, is that an armadillo in your trousers or are you just happy to see me?
All in all, Palin looks to be able to handle herself quite well. Which she’ll have to do, as she plays meet the press.
Fortunately, the elitism of the press almost always results in their underestimating her — looking for gotcha moments when they could be pressing her more heavily on policy and her perceived lack of experience. To his credit, Gibson hits a couple of key points:
Sarah Palin on Experience:
GIBSON: Governor, let me start by asking you a question that I asked John McCain about you, and it is really the central question. Can you look the country in the eye and say “I have the experience and I have the ability to be not just vice president, but perhaps president of the United States of America?”
PALIN: I do, Charlie, and on January 20, when John McCain and I are sworn in, if we are so privileged to be elected to serve this country, [I] will be ready. I’m ready.
GIBSON: And you didn’t say to yourself, “Am I experienced enough? Am I ready? Do I know enough about international affairs? Do I — will I feel comfortable enough on the national stage to do this?”
PALIN: I didn’t hesitate, no.
GIBSON: Didn’t that take some hubris?
PALIN: I — I answered him yes because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can’t blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we’re on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can’t blink.
So I didn’t blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.
And:
Sarah Palin on Russia:
We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.
We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
GIBSON: Would you favor putting Georgia and Ukraine in NATO?
PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia.
GIBSON: Because Putin has said he would not tolerate NATO incursion into the Caucasus.
PALIN: Well, you know, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, those actions have showed us that those democratic nations, I believe, deserve to be in NATO.
Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but…
GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn’t we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?
PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you’re going to be expected to be called upon and help.
But NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I think that we need to — especially with new leadership coming in on January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO members.
We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.
GIBSON: And you think it would be worth it to the United States, Georgia is worth it to the United States to go to war if Russia were to invade.
PALIN: What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a larger power is something for us to be vigilant against. We have got to be cognizant of what the consequences are if a larger power is able to take over smaller democratic countries.
And we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.
It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.
His mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and through Russia, that’s a dangerous position for our world to be in, if we were to allow that to happen.
Discuss.
(h/t Gary S)
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update: More from Ace. (h/t h/t Dan)
Alternative title: Schooling That Foolish Charlie Gibson.
It’s just wonderful to finally have at least one figure on the national level that can not only think soundly about being truly American, but can do so in real time on that very level. A simple concept the drive-bys take such pride in turning on its head whenever their little twisted hearts feel they can.
TV is stupid. I can’t wait for Dollhouse.
I was hoping for better out of both of them. Palin seemed nervous and appeared stuck in a couple of spots. I suspect she’ll settle in.
Charlie, I suspect, is already settled in.
But here is what Governor P said for real so you can see what a dishonest little post-menopausal dickhead Baracky’s Charlie Gibson is…
I should find a better one than from Baracky’s AP. brb.
Now, now, happyfeet. I’m not so sure that Charlie meant to lie so much as that he was stupid enough to believe what AP chose to report.
Ace has the story here.
There’s even more context, ‘feets. That one’s clipped mid-sentence.
See how the slimy AP fuckers capitalized the “o” and made “our” into the beginning of a sentence, which it wasn’t when she said it?
oh. Here is the quote in Governor P’s own words. Even with a moonbat filter you can see how Baracky’s Charlie Gibson dowdified what she was saying. Charlie Gibson is sort of a whore for Baracky I think. Have some dignity, Charlie.
You’ve got an “f” in your “php” there, Dan.
You’re right, Pablo. That one didn’t feel right. Baracky’s media is stupid and desperate and sad and impotent. Charlie Gibson a lot personifies it really.
Nato should protect PHP from invasions from f.
Here?
Much better.
Yes. Ace has the story right. He is stronger than me, getting his tv straight from the tap unfiltered like that.
Follow Dan’s link in #7 to then follow Ace’s to tell ABC to go fuck themselves right up the ratings. Oh, sorry if that was out loud.
Speaking of war, I’d say the drive-buy’s fifth columnists just about earned themselves one with this little morsel of piss-yellow journalism. Give it to them.
I removed the “f” in the earlier link. So now those of you who’d like to read the Gibson excerpts at Ace’s instead of here have two links that’ll help you get there.
Fuck it, three. I’ll put one right in the post, too!
This just back from ABC via email:
And I look forward to doing exactly that, ABC!!!
/undimples rosy round cheeks
Charlie Gibson will have to apologize cause of his exact quote fuck up. No way around it. He clearly wasn’t prepared for this interview. That’s more ironic than whacking Keith Olbermann upside his stupid head with a dead bunny.
Fuck it, three. I’ll put one right in the post, too!
Do I have to remind you that yours are more better?
ok just pretend you get that
You can tell liberals are panicking when disingenuous spaz blogger Josh Marshall says he would prefer 4 more years of Bush to Mccain/Palin.
But sure, maybe, Dan. If he apologizes then maybe Charlie Gibson is something less than a post-menopausal strumpet prostrate for his Baracky. But we’ll have to see. I have very little faith in these people.
You don’t think Charlie’s smarter than Matt Damon, do you, hf?
The official title for Josh Marshal is: George Polk Award Winning Spaz Blogger.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzI4OGRmYjcwMDliNDUyMjM0NzkyNDExNWJhZDY1ZmQ=
“That’s more ironic than whacking Keith Olbermann upside his stupid head with a dead bunny.”
Make it a dead fish and I’m there, baby.
Hmmm. Matt Damon almost graduated from Harvard and also he is very pretty, but Charlie Gibson knows Katie Couric personally. I think we gots ourself a tie.
But then are you sending your son on a task that is from
GodBusHitlerHaliburton?Oh. And if you’d like to read about Matt Damon and Palin, I have a post up on it from yesterday. It’s on the NL site as well.
You know, while you’re here and all.
Oh wait, that Hot Air Damon post quotes Ace, so it’s all good.
Consistency is very important I think.
By the way, here’s a link to my Damon post. Just for competition’s sake and all.
Matt Damon? You said Matt Damon?
Nothing on God’s good Earth equals Trey Parker’s sendup of Matt Damon in Team America: World Police.
But seriously, Sarah did pretty good. She solidified her standing in the base and came across as prepared. She needs work on this kind of thing: she’ll eventually have to do the Sunday Screaming Fist stuff. Just not yet.
Damn you, Goldstein. Now everytime I see Matt Damon’s name I think “The Bourne Douchenozzle” and start laughing.
“Can you look the country in the eye and say “I have the experience and I have the ability to be not just vice president, but perhaps president of the United States of America?—
Baracky this one for you!
The world is a better place with a Goldstein and an Ace I think. Your stuff is more “thinky”, which is definitely a good thing. You’re both must reads. Plus you both make me laugh every day, which is like, the best thing that can be.
– They’re going to hear about the Gibson fuckup. they’re certainly wearing their “unhinginess” on their partisan sleeves.
– Every time they try to “gottcha” her, it comes back on them like a lipstick tube flying through Baracky like a pigshit milkshake.
Palin: B+ or A- depending on how much beer I’ll drink over the next few hours as the ACC further makes a shamockery of itself.
Charlie’s haughty mien certainly isn’t helped by wearing his reading glasses down on the tip of his nose and peering over ’em that-a-way.
But, BBH, what fuckup? They took the quote from a reputable news source, right? And Palin didn’t dispute the accuracy of the quote, right?
The press will circle around Gibson because he’s one of their own.
She’s a right-wing nutjob that goes to a church that focuses on the Book of Revelation.
God help us all.
That’s kinda like what she was saying, “God help us all”, so you’re in agreement with her there, repdis?
“…And Palin didn’t dispute the accuracy of the quote, right?”
– Actually she did:
– PALIN: You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.
– GIBSON: Exact words.
– So hes unarguably on record as misquoting her.
– Not many ways you can hide from his own words.
Seriously, what are teh chances anyone in the professional, approved media takes Charlie to task for his poor research?
teh? Did I just type teh?
Whatevs. I dinna see the shite, and its good it was on, ‘cuz I’m here at the suicide hotline now and no ones calling. So she saved them all or something.
But, but, but, Obama prays to Jesus every day! …and Hillary goes to church!
Damn. We’re all just screwed. Theocracy all around, I guess.
– Every day that goes by that the Left, and its lap dogs in the MSM, keep up this rapacious sort of outright lying and attacks, particularly on Palin, is just digging their graves deeper and deeper for their candidate.
– I’ll bet Obama wishes there was some damn way he could flip a switch and shut it down. But the beast is out of his control at this point. Some of it is the old surrogate ass cover game. But I think the sorts of craziness we’re seeing goes way beyond hormal political games.
– Oh…and thor – shut up.
The chickennns are commmming home to roooooooooost.
It is only wrong for a Republican to be religious. You are racist for pointing out that Baracky’s religion was centered around a vile little hate-whitey preacher.
BBH — I know that. You know that.
The press won’t ever admit it. No media watchdog, or ethics group, or anyone who gets even the least bit of their income from the press will admit it, except the few that are explicitly right-leaning.
CRAP, I still have 90 minutes until it airs here…though the local KABC station is running clips
Gibson should have asked the experience question not only of Barry, but of Joe “he should have picked Hillary” Biden.
From what I’m reading, Palin didn’t fall into Gibson’s trap with false humility.
She is the real deal.
BTW
Does anyone know if Gibson style questions were ever asked of Barry?
God, the community organiser, would never plan a war.
– I think the moderate outlets will pick up on it if a few people email them pointing it out.
“Comment by republican disasters on 9/11 @ 6:36 pm #
She’s a right-wing nutjob that goes to a church that focuses on the Book of Revelation.
God help us all.”
Sure thing, thor, you inbred mouth-breather.
Was this bit like the highlight of the interview? ‘Cuz I’m not hearing anything else about it.
republican disasters,
She’s a right-wing nutjob that goes to a church that focuses on the Book of Revelation.
As opposed to, say, a left-wing party hack who regularly listened to Reverend Wright’s rant-fests for 20 years?
Really, sweetie, get back on the meds–you’ll be glad you did.
“Does anyone know if Gibson style questions were ever asked of Barry?”
If by style you (could) mean looking down at him with a horrid frown and heavy voice like a disappointed father at a miscreant son, no, Darleen, no one has.
– Obama just threw the far Left under the MagicBus. The great technicolor raincoat move to the center is officially under way.
– “….rhe President acted approprietly….speaking to the American people at ground zero, rallying the country, AND SENDING OUR MILITARY AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT DID THIS ATTACK IN THE APPROPRIATE WAY….”
– BTW, the audience is obviously salted with O! screamers and dutifully fainting female acolytes.
I denounce myself in advance:
Man they got that camera so you don’t see the O! mole by his nose.
Naive as I am, I expected Gibson to do a fair interview. Tough questions maybe, but no outright cheap shots. Charlie is one of the best the MSM has, so it might be the case that PDS is an ebola-like slate-wiper for the media.
” The fact is we need government” O!
F@@k you and the socialist behind you
– He complemented McCain, He complemented Booosh.
– Behold the new and improved Obama-just-a-regular-guy, all hearts and roses.
– The Lipstick is officially off the PIG!
†The fact is we need governmentâ€Â
And if you do not need it you will be paying for those that do I guess.
I feel sorry for those of you that are watching this. I rather watch the Nationals get shut out for the 20th time this season personally.
Charlie v Obama interview July 23 2008.
She is going to cut off foreign aid. No more free meals for children and free medical and drugs for AIDs victims.s.
No more billions in ‘loans’ from Biden that are written off every year like your mortgage loan, but it’s free.
No more billions in free money from doubled and tripled ’emergency’ five year budgets.
Russians are invading South America!!!
Properly, a potent promulgation of B.D.S., P.D.S. has, perhaps, more potent potential than I had perceived it to be.
C’mon, guys, Gibson asked her if she approved of the Bush doctrine and it was obvious that she had no clue what he was talking about. Even Dan Quayle would have known that one. This is very worrisome.
That is a good talking point. It will go far.
I denounce myself.
Or maybe she asked Gibson to define his terms to make sure she knew what he was asking about?
Hell, has Obama been asked that question?
How about this one Jimmy.
“OMG she didn’t even know about the Bush doctrine that is soooo like Dan Quayleis. In the event the 73 year old McCain dies she will not even be able to continue his third term of the Bush administrations policies.”
See you have to fit in McCain’s age when you are coming up with your talking points as well as add in as many mentions of teh evil Booosh. Are you new to this left wing troll thing or what?
I salute the History Channel for their broadcast now
I don’t know what the Bush Doctrine is, I suppose. I always thought it was Break Shit.
Is that like that Monroe Doctrine?
He’s new. If he was an old-timer, he would’ve gotten Big Oil, Big Pharm, and Halliburton in there. Kids…
I know sheeesh these youngins do not know how to properly propagandize. Something is so wrong with this new generation.
Oh, bullshit, Jim. She actually answered that very well. You wanted her to go on record for doing something stupid like invading Pakistan or something? Oh, wait…
C’mon, guys, Gibson asked her if she approved of the Bush doctrine and it was obvious that she had no clue what he was talking about.
So what do you think of the Bush Doctrine, Jim?
I don’t know what the Bush Doctrine is, I suppose.
Neither does Jim, it is a media construct of what they presume to be Bush’s motivations.
Does the former mayor of Wasilla know she’s talking about the Georgia that doesn’t have Atlanta in it?
Gibson sucked the dumbass right out of her. What a deathwish Jesus-barker that pig with lips of shiny gloss is.
I suppose we should be grateful Sister Palin came out of her protective Alaskan crab hole and blessed America with one quickie interview. Her handlers must have been drunk.
“Gibson sucked the dumbass right out of her. What a deathwish Jesus-barker that pig with lips of shiny gloss is.”
Seriously why do you come here? You are not here for intelligent conversation that is obvious. You would have 100 people laughing at your idiocy if you went back to Kos. Do you come here to get off on people getting pissed at you and then slink back there shouting in triumph?
Shut up, thor.
The f22KIN EVIL OF TEH “BROWN PEOPLE” IS AMAZING THOR ASSHAT
Sigh, Jeff, you don’t lose open debate points for asking campus security to remove the jackass who takes off his shirt and starts screaming in the third row of a lecture hall…….
Just saying.
Honestly, I swears it works. Ignore unless he’s on topic.
Actually, the stuff about Russia and passports is starting to get on my nerves. Palin and other Alaskans are saying, “Russia’s right next door!” They need to clarify that point for the ignorant among us. What is blindingly obvious to them is pea-soup fog to the dumbed down generation. i.e. If one next door neighbor has nuclear weapons and the other one shares a common backyard ‘fence,’ you’re going to know in some detail what’s going on with them, including, who, what, where, when, why and how.
Oh, yeah. Then there’s that whole thing about several dozen foreign diplomats and international conglomerates maintaining offices in Alaska and/or visiting the governor’s office. At this point in time, Alaskans must think the rest of us are pretty friggin’ clueless.
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Sigh, Jeff, you don’t lose open debate points for asking campus security to remove the jackass who takes off his shirt and starts screaming in the third row of a lecture hall…….
Just saying.
Ditto….
thor is the answer to my prayers: “Oh Lord, please make all my adversaries retards”.
Thanks, thor. I can sleep peacefully tonight.
People like Gibson are why I don’t watch news anymore. I keep hoping it will get to a level of shit where people will demand change. I mean, Matthews and Olberdouche being demoted (sorta) was a start, right?
Alaskans must think the rest of us are pretty friggin’ clueless.
Well, whatever group you’re in that makes the “us”, I’m going to have to agree with the Alaskans.
Sdferr
I just took a quick look at the Gibson/Obama thing. First thing I noticed (outside of the fact that Gibson did the “peer over the reading glasses” schtick with Barry, too) is the stage managing. Note that
1. the men have some distance and a table between them
2 the long shots (fully body) emphasize their relative “equaliness”
3. closeups of Barry are always 3/4
4. shots of Gibson over Barry’s shoulder keep their heads at relatively the same height
Now, with the short segments of Palin:
1. Gibson and Palin are placed much closer together, no table between. Emphasizes Gibson’s size as more “dominate” over Palin
2. the “full body shots” are closer in, again emphasizing Palin as “the little woman”
3. Close ups of Palin’s are more full face or profile, not as many 3/4.
4. Shots of Gibson over Palin’s shoulder show her head barely to Gibson’s chin, like a little girl being lectured by daddy
Believe me, that is not accidental.
thor’s in the penalty box.
I didn’t watch the interview, but I didn’t feel compelled to do so. Quite honestly, I am not as appalled by Palin as I expected. Aside from her Kelly Bundy delivery, she comes across as genuine and fairly well versed. Not perfect, but I’m sure she’s being schooled.
Unfortunately, McCain doesn’t have the political chips to bail her out if any of these low-frequency torpedos actually score a hit. And that’s a shame, because despite her craven motives, she has the political savvy to sublimate them to a higher purpose. Kinda like Obama, right?
This is the Bush Doctrine. There’s a whole lot more to it than preemptive war. “In what respect?” is a perfectly acceptable counterquestion to what basically amounts to: Are you on board with George Bush’s foreign policy?
If only you could give her an encouraging little pat on the head, cynn.
This is where I refrain from responding.
“Kinda like Obama, right?”
f@@K THAT NINCOMPOOP
Actually, I was kind of kidding. I really do think Palin is engaging, and I don’t understand all the latter-day feminist panty knots.
Quit hating on thor!! He’s only trying to moderate!
I noticed it instantly, Darleen. This was one shoddy setup.
Please don’t make me watch the interview for refutation purposes.
cynn
Not perfect, but I’m sure she’s being schooled
If you took the time to watch her debates in 2006 for the governorship and other interviews she has given before the VP nomination, you would be rightfully ashamed of that line.
despite her craven motives
Care to tell us what your crystal ball say in Sarah’s heart and mind? Damned if I’ll second guess her motives. It takes some powerful “Rethugs never are in it for the good” juju to slam someone you admit you know nothing about with that one.
Yeah, quit hatin’ on thor!
They’ve got me in shackles, cynn, impaled on a pig foot!
Help!!!!
People like Gibson are why I don’t watch news anymore.
To be fair to Gibson, he probably didn’t know whether the quote he had on his note card was carefully cribbed or not. It was most likely dowdified by a producer who is either a moonbat or relied on the egregious AP. I’m sure he will be reminded by several thousand commenters, me among them.
JHoward
If you can’t get someone on the questions, you stage manage the set up. ABC wasn’t taking any chances with their cred with the DC aristocracy that is looking down their blue-blood noses at the riffraff moose shooter.
Good on Palin she didn’t let Gibson intimidate her.
She gets dismissed as “beauty queen” but they forget (and want us all to forget) she played basketball on a state championship team.
Shut up, thor.
Darleen: As a jurist, I assume you apply the same courtesy to Obama. Or for that matter, McCain and Biden.
If you took the time to watch her debates in 2006 for the governorship and other interviews she has given before the VP nomination, you would be rightfully ashamed of that line.
It must be my night to defend the southpaws.
I’m sure Palin is being “schooled,” too. She might be up on the issues, but that doesn’t mean she’s been briefed about what the McCain campaign’s position is on all of them. That is almost certainly happening now so no gaps open up in public between the two in separate interviews. There’s not a thing that is sinister about it.
Be coherent, cynn.
Syntax error: meant to indicate that Darleen is a jurist, not me.
And that’s a shame, because despite her craven motives, she has the political savvy to sublimate them to a higher purpose.
Whoa…. Craven?
In what way has she shown any cowardice?
You’ve got other stuff you can bitch about, like not being a priviledged male product of the Ivy League, but in what way has she shown any cowardice?
Most men would be crying in the corner, like little bitch-boy Obama is right now, if they were put through the Trial by Fire she is.
What is your problem, Pablite? No speeka da Eengitch?
cynn, just go watch the Obama interview linked above. Gibson wears kneepads.
“In what respect?†is a perfectly acceptable counterquestion to what basically amounts to: Are you on board with George Bush’s foreign policy?
Agreed. The question was so overly broad as to have her start in one area and have Headmaster Gibson start chiding her “that is NOT what I AM talking about.”
he probably didn’t know whether the quote he had on his note card was carefully cribbed or not
Then Slipshod should have found out before he used it on national tv.
Then Slipshod should have found out before he used it on national tv.
Agreed, but that just makes him a sloppy journalist, not necessarily a fawning acolyte of O!.
C’mon, cynn. … Judy Woodruff just let Obama get away with “small town mayors have to figure out how to take out the garbage” bit. Courtesy? Not so much.
Jeffersonian
My mistake in assuming that cynn was talking about her “performance” being schooled. Palin has been busy being governor and DOES need policy briefings as to McCain’s positions and other national/international nuances that as VP she needs to know.
Anyone see Obama call for Univ. of Columbia to let the Army recruiters and ROTC back on campus?
That place will be more Texas A&M than A&M before you know it.
“sloppy journalist, not necessarily a fawning acolyte of O!”
What’s the operational difference?
PALIN: By the way, is that an cashew in your trousers or are you just happy to see me?
Fixed it for you.
I think they call those things hockey mom pads up north.
My mistake in assuming that cynn was talking about her “performance†being schooled.
There’s probably some of that going on, too, and really there’s nothing wrong with it.
Agreed, Jeffersonian. If in fact the posture was manipulated as Darleen reported (I have no interest in watching any candidate “interview”), then that clearly proves bias.
I mean incompetence or unfortunate set arrangements.
Thank God for the internet.
Have some DAYLIGHT, you media sonsabitches.
A few days ago I credited Gibson as being an MSM type I didn’t automatically write off where objectivity or professionalism was concerned.
Well, I made yet another mistake, didn’t I?
Is Biden gone yet? I bet that the issue is not that they need an excuse to drop Biden – but that there is no viable Democrat that will step forward for The One.
Clowns. Wish it wasn’t that way. But it is.
I sense a little despair from the Palin hawkers.
“With her tall goddess like figure, her purity of form, and transparency of complexion she resembled some lovely antique marble that had rolled about in the depths of the sea and had been brought to land in some fisherman’s net.”
Zola
Get this, TMJ: I can absolutely claim all the interviews were manipulated and I didn’t watch a single ONE! The information society is ascendant and pervasive. What a wonderful world.
Jeffersonian
My quibble is that Palin doesn’t need to be “schooled” on her presentation. Any coaching on that is something I don’t think the McCain camp will interfere with because she is such a natural that “schooling” will tamper with it.
It’s like someone trying to send Fred Astaire to dance school to “brush up” before filming.
Cynn, why did you say “craven” motives?
cynn
the way around manipulation is to be aware of it, to notice it, then to discount it.
It’s kind of like staging a house for sale. I can go into a home and appreciate the artfully angled funiture, fire in the fireplace, and scented candles without letting them influence my assessment of the house. I expect staging.
I just think it is interesting to compare the Barry and Palin interviews with the same interviewer and see what the staging tells ME about ABC’s “craven motives.”
Without some McCain camp schooling, I’m afraid, Sister Palin might squat on stage as if she were suddenly back in Wasilla.
Wrong, Darleen. Joe Biden will obliterate her on multiple fronts. You better believe your gal is undergoing a “not Alaska” tutorial.
Joe Biden will obliterate her on multiple fronts.
Oh, the guy who just said he wasn’t as qualified as Hillary? Mr. Plagarist? Mr. “McCain is a great friend of mine, I remember him and my wife dancing drunk on a table”?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!
No speeka de loco, cynn. Pull it together, sweetie.
SaraW: I was being outre, and simultaneously ironic, like how you all use the word “torture.”
Biden will slink off to the green room and yank out about $20,000 of hairplugs when Palin gets done with him…even if he is only HALF as dismissive as you, cynn.
No speeka de loco, cynn. Good one.
Pablo, go to bed already. Somebody called, and they said something.
That’s Mr. “Send Iran $200 million” and “Divide Iraq into three parts” Biden to you, Miss Darleen!
Durr…what’s the Bush doctrine Charlie? Durr, you can see Russia from Alaska! It took me 6 schools to get a communications major!
Wrong, Darleen. Joe Biden will obliterate her on multiple fronts. You better believe your gal is undergoing a “not Alaska†tutorial.
I’ll bet you a fifth of Ketel One Vodka that she guts him like a moose. A moose with hairplugs.
She’s twice the man of Joe Biden.
Joe Biden:
“Stand up, Chuck. Stand up, let people have a look at you”
(Upon seeing Chuck is a paraplegic)
“Oh, God love ya. What am I saying? Let’s all stand up for you, pal.”
Fucking moron.
Alanis Morrisette irony, I guess.
I have to plead innocent on frolicsome use of the word torture.
Alanis Morrisette irony, I guess.
I have to plead innocent on frolicsome use of the word torture.
Cynn, so you don’t think she has craven motives.
Palin’s pusillanimous prostrations are premonitory, literally phantasmagorias!
Thor’s into the popskull again.
ZOMFG!!! McCain just said God wants us to help people in Houston if Ike fucks them up!!! Or something like that.
THEOCRAT!!!
I really don’t think Cynn knew, or knows, what the word ‘Craven’ means. She just types stuff….
As a former Dallasite I can say with solid authority, “Houston, good riddance!”
cynn knows muchos mas palabras que usted, palabras grandes también.
“I’m afraid, Sister Palin might squat on stage as if she were suddenly back in Wasilla.”
You leftards are such assholes.
Abortion would be acceptable for the disease of leftism.
Thor has a lisp.
Wow. Even the NY Times thought Charlie Gibson was kind of a cocksucker in the interview:
Mr. Gibson, who sat back in his chair and wriggled his foot impatiently, had the skeptical, annoyed tone of a university president who agrees to interview the daughter of a trustee, but doesn’t believe she merits admission.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/12/us/politics/12watch.html?_r=2&ref=politics&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
We live in a country where any young boy, or girl, can grow up to be President, except girls from small towns in Alaska who actually have a husband and some kids and believe in God, or something.
… because it’s true. His foot went to sleep.
Thread hog is me.
I wish happyfeet was here. He’s unafraid to cast pearls of wisdom before swine. Even lipsticked swine in boxes….
I’m just watching Nightline and they’ve edited out Palin’s objection to the Gibson quote and his “exact quote” response. But they left the assertion unmolested.
Hold your ground, hold your ground! Obama, and Clinton, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of woes and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you *stand, Men of the West!*
Pablo
They did that with the westcoast broadcast at 6:30p, too.
Fucking cowards. Just “disappeared” it.
I’m just watching Nightline and they’ve edited out Palin’s objection to the Gibson quote and his “exact quote†response. But they left the assertion unmolested.
Well, there’s our answer: It was deliberate.
Really? Guess I’ll have to check this out. Craven bastards.
cynn: “Joe Biden will obliterate her on multiple fronts. You better believe your gal is undergoing a “not Alaska†tutorial”
Uh-huh… you mean “gaffe a day” Joe Biden, the plagiarising yahoo from Delaware? The fella who pissed all over himself today describing how Hilliary was a better VP than him? THAT Joe Biden?
Yeah, that one.
I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship…
Wow, Joe…. That’s really good! Did you come up with that?
Just this week, he (Joe Biden) mused that Senator Barack Obama might have been better off with Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.
“Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America,” Biden said Wednesday in Nashua, New Hampshire. “Quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me.”
Yahoo has the abc clip up on its front page and it is the New Improved Craven Edit version
Yeah, that one.
Cynn, before the debates, I suggest you lay in an extra case or two of Ernest and Julio’s Fermented Grape Alcohol Product (now in the convenient 5 gallon box!).
You’re going to need it.
Ass Press
and at the end of the article they Dowdify her “God’s task” quote YET AGAIN!!!
John McCain running mate Sarah Palin sought Thursday to defend her qualifications but struggled with foreign policy, unable to describe President Bush’s doctrine of pre-emptive strikes against threatening nations and acknowledging she’s never met a foreign head of state.
Holy shit…. Pre-emptive strikes aren’t “The Bush Doctrine”–she just didn’t want to leap into Charlie’s suckertrap.
never met a foreign head of state. Who gives a shit? Is that really important? Why?
I’ve never met an NFL cheerleader, does that make my unqualified to fuck my wife?
So, the AP doesn’t know what the Bush Doctrine is either. Gibson knew enough to know that it was issued in 2002, though he clearly didn’t bother to read it, or he wouldn’t have missed 7/8 of it.
These people are pathetic.
Hey guys. I couldn’t hold my own against Charlie Gibson and now I’m a little scared about the debate. One thing I was thinking of is just screaming “SEXIST!” whenever that Biden guy says anything. It seems to be working ok so far, but I’m a little worried it might get played. What do you guys think?
Spies, I do that anyway. But who knows? Fun wagering game, the way I look at it.
You guys happy? I tried to “ban” thor for the night, but he just used a new IP and came right back in.
Guess Karl left for no reason. But if you need him, he’s over at Ace’s in the comments. Dan can give you a link.
Darleen: How can I subscribe to the Ass Press? I think this may be a dream come true.
oh god. I can’t really comment cause boss person said hey let’s all have a few drinks, which none of us were able to counter, somehow. And yay also popcorn chicken was involved. But I saw what Darleen said about over at Yahoo! and jeez but… does ABC just have the one fucking camera? Did they let an intern produce this? That’s … weird … ok we’re back … unflattering camera angle one … go! … and pull back. Do NOT let them see her eyes. Make sure grandpa is in the shot at all times, talk over her more, Charlie, interrupt a lot. Get her reacting. Good, Charlie. Baracky says you’re doing good.
ABC. Owned by Disney. Fuck these bitches, I hope you’ll remember come Christmas.
Oh. And now you have the answer to why Palin “ducks” interviews. The press has simply come out for Obama, period. May as well be wearing buttons, foam fingers, and Afro wigs.
Major news organization has scrubbed its own video? On the night it originally aired? And the AP is purposely misrepresenting a nuanced answer to a rather un-nuanced question?
We don’t live in a democratic republic anymore.
oh hey I remember saying already that mr. thor had mad skillz and banning would be quixotic. He sells server thingies, and so he has to be able to talk to those people in their language. Really though I’ll take thor over this obnoxious Gibson puke any day.
You got it, happy.
This is now thor’s site.
My advice: backslash, backslash, delete, delete. It worked for OJ. And if people know his babble is going to disappear, they won’t bother responding to it.
Jeff, thor is a mongoloid but he is my ass press rep, so we will minister to him. Think of him as tiptoeing thru the poison sumac. As opposed to Yma Sumac, who I think is foreign.
So he can pick the lock. Just throw him out when he gets in. Delete, delete, delete.
I just … I think people forget that he’s 95% parody for real. He’s not modulating though. It’s a problem now where it never should have been, but just cause people forget that he’s 95% parody for real I think.
Possibly not feeding the fucking troll might work better than asking Jeff to put up some chickenwire. But we haven’t tried the not-feeding bit, yet, even though it’s been suggested early & often.
P.S. Can you also scrub Pablo? I think he’s one of those swarthy southerners, if you get me.
Remember that dipwad that was posting walls of impenetrable text that clearly took him waaaaay too much time to write…and the you edited them down to you giggling at him? That was fun, wasn’t it?
Try it micro.
Sorry, sweetie. I’m a New Englander. You’re obliged to adhere to my proscriptions. In fact, you might have to vote for me.
Hi, cynn.
I share this except for real I think it’s malice. Ric can disagree but this. is. malice.
Why would I have to vote for you? Are you female?
As I said, I’ll wait for factcheck tomorrow. Why subject myself to that now?
Also I don’t get where YaFuckingYoo!, decadal also-fucking-ran, thinks they’re in a position to get their fucking Alinsky on. They are AOL waiting to goddamn happen.
that was *Hoo!* … ok whatever … that was the white russians actually … also I kinda have a mouth on me tonight. Sorry.
Happy …. why don’t you just take thor’s hand and walk him over to Ace’s, or something. It’ll be fun for you.
I would like to hug happyfeet, but not in a gay way. More like a back-slapping “Hey you’re OK, pal!” kinda way.
Ooooh! Baracky is gonna make government cool again!
Can someone tell me when government was cool before?
Drudge is steady, though. Ike still has first bill, so that’s a suggestion that ABC is pitching this to Baracky’s base… let’s test that. Yup. Yahoo’s chick play that’s under a lot of pressure post-launch is NOT taking chances. It’s not a full court press, not 100%. So this is just ABC foisting this shit off where they can. The usual NPR MSNBC already bought and sold ones will run with the ABC spin, but there’s no reason to think that it will change the dynamic people have been describing the last few days.
Oh. I’m not ignoring you Diana it”s just I got nothing.
That’s from the desperate we so bad have to pander to chicks Yahoo! site that will get their plug pulled really fast if they screw this up. It’s very, very telling.
No, because we Eastern city folk are your betters, hick.
Ooops! I was supposed to say that in my inside voice.
Can someone tell me when government was cool before?
JFK’s Came a lot.
There was a lot of fucking in Camelot in between naively caving in to Rooskies and letting Cuban Patriots die on the beaches in want of promised air support.
It was magical, or so I hear.
You fool no-one, sinner.
You fool no-one, sinner.
Hahahahaha! OK, that’s kinda funny from “St Sarah”.
With this kind of looneyness over just picking a well-liked female governor to be veep, you gotta admit, Sarah Palin punches above her weight….
G’night, sinners….
Oh. And now you have the answer to why Palin “ducks†interviews. The press has simply come out for Obama, period. May as well be wearing buttons, foam fingers, and Afro wigs.
Major news organization has scrubbed its own video? On the night it originally aired? And the AP is purposely misrepresenting a nuanced answer to a rather un-nuanced question?
As repulsed by this as I am, a part of me loves the fact that is John McCain fucking Feingold taking it up the ass from these pukes.
How you like your press buddies now, John? No vaseline kind of sucks, huh?
Yeah, happy is a cool guy. I’ll miss ya, little buddy. Man-hug!
Banning people is so, so totalitarian. I prefer the caveat “removed for conduct inconsistent with the cultural values of the team.”
I must now walk alone! Cue Greenday, maestro.
[…] rather than issuing a correction or retraction to an egregious error, ABC News has simply scrubbed their Charlie Gibson interview with Sarah Palin of Gibson’s misquote (and Governor […]
G’night, gray. And thor, it’s just penalty box. It would be weird to see this election thing through without you around. We’ve come this far already.
Once you get to the second page of comments you’ll get a good idea of the feedback they’re getting. Governor P doesn’t have to worry about nobody has her back.
oh. I usually think in consecutive paragraphs. Pretend those last two are switched.
I emailed thor and basically told him to take a breather. Instead he’s tried to show me up by posting here under 3 IPs.
All the bans are removed. I now know where I stand with thor. He has no respect for me or for the site I run. So he can do his schtick to his heart’s delight. Whatever. Like I any longer give a fuck.
GIBSON: Didn’t that take some hubris?
Who does this guy think he is kidding here?
Yea Charlie, that Sara comes off as a very arrogant person- especially when she is sitting across from a guy that keeps interrupting her, insisting all the while that his lies are exact quotes.
Anyway, I think the timing worked to the favor of McCain/Palin because Obama wants to move away from anything Palin and on to issues where he doesn’t risk losing the entire (non-minority) female demographic.
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Hey Jeff,
You have been correct from the beginning, the responsibility has always been on us (the commenter’s) to sort this out. Thanks for allowing us to make mistakes and still call your place our home.
You have my complete support.
– FOX did a complete rain dance on Gibsons fuckup parade, right down to the exact way they clipped and juggle her original statement.
– Colmes is yammering, playing the doubting idiot as usual.
– Guys a dyed in the wool little Lefty prick.
– Giuliani just pissed up his nose.
most definitely. oh, and she’ll be 86 years old in a couple days.
Trolls must provoke. Rats must chew. Or their brains grow through their brains!
(hic)
Victor #214,
Ditto
What did I tell you?
[…] Jeff G has the story and the quotes… GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, “Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.†Are we fighting a holy war?PALIN: You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.GIBSON: Exact words. […]
GIBSON: And you didn’t say to yourself, “Am I experienced enough?
No Charlie, I believe that was Jimi Hendrix.
I just pity the guy. What a sad little fuck. Jeff, he’ll leave. And you’re still doing great work. Fantastic work. Again, thanks for all you do.
This latest appears to be over, but the rape-kit bit is the next one in line.
Until that one gets knocked over, and there’ll be yet another in the queue.
It’s not really all that difficult to get around an ip-based banning. Heck, under the right circumstances, even an Aggie could figure it out…
Anybody know how to get a Texas Aggie off your porch?
Pay him for the pizza.
Too cerebral, Jim
Two Aggies go on a fishing trip. They rent all the equipment – the reels, the rods, the wading suits, the rowboat, the car, and even a cabin in the woods.
The first day they go fishing, but they don’t catch anything. The same thing happens on the second day, and on the third day. It goes on like this until finally, on the last day of their vacation, one of the men catches a fish.
As they’re driving home they’re really depressed. One Aggie turns to the other and says, “Do you realize that this one lousy fish we caught cost us fifteen hundred bucks?”
The other Aggie says, “Wow! Then it’s a good thing we didn’t catch any more!”
I’d like to know if Belgium is worth defending, why isn’t Georgia? Maybe Charlie Gibson could explain that one.
Belgium has better beer
“Belgium has better beer” Heh.
But Georgia has better white wine…
#177 JeffG.:
I am late to this fest as the parents were visiting on their way to Florida.
In Re: Karl; In Re: thor.
This is your site, run it as you will. As I have said many, many times: I am just a guest, you are the host.
thor (as I think – IIRC) is useful, not for what he says, but for what he represents as he speaks. Like matoko, he is recognized. Like matoko, you get what he is all about. The more he speaks…
#187 Slart:
Months ago, I warned him about going into TTP territory. It’s like Ace’s Law: “You can give good advice to the left on how not to screw-up, secure in the knowledge that they will ignore you.”*
*Ace said something like that.
#211 JeffG.:
Malignant narcissism is ugly to watch, isn’t it?
N.B.: I may be narcissistic, but I try not to be mean about it.