August 8, 2008

We Have Standards, Y’Know [Dan Collins]

I’m so glad they never pander to our baser instincts:

It’s August. It’s the slowest news month of the year. Newspapers are dying on the vine.

But nobody wants to touch a sordid tale about a politician’s love life?

Former Rep. Gary Condit should have been so lucky.

Bill Clinton, Larry Craig, and Ted Kennedy can only gaze in wonder at the dearth of coverage.

In February, the New York Times (NYT:12.99, -0.51, -3.8%) spilled barrels of ink, and clear-cut a forest to tell the world that — hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean? — Sen. John McCain allegedly had had an affair. This was great stuff, until someone bothered to vet the story.
By those standards, the Enquirer’s reporting on Edwards is Pulitzer grade stuff. (They have a picture.)

h/t Insty

However, they’re covering it at that trashy, sensationalistic British tabloid, The Daily Mail:

Barack Obama’s supporters yesterday tried to distance him from a potentially damaging sex scandal.

His possible running mate John Edwards faced renewed suggestions that he had a love child.

Mr Edwards was ordered to come clean on rumours of an affair with a campaign aide or stay away from the party.

My principal concern is that he’ll be forced to pull a TV preacher weepy apology so oleaginous that it kills all of the nation’s shorebirds.

Posted by Dan Collins @ 6:06am
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Comments (98)

  1. Not sure what oleaginous is, but since it is in reference to Silky Pony, it made me laugh.

  2. I’ll equip my Hyundai with one of them there oleo-injectors, thank you. It’ll save me $3/gallon. Bring it on!

  3. “Mr Edwards was ordered…”

    – Ahh, the Central party Aparatchik has sent down a Politburo bull, setting terms od capitulation.

    – Theres still a lot of room under the Big Tent Bus.

  4. This is rapidly becoming the most entertaining election season evah! More popcorn, please.

  5. Dawn Detergent and toothbrush at the ready.

  6. Well he does not have an (R) in front of his name so this is only natural. Carry on people, carry on.

  7. But they say that reporters for the MSM are objective, truthful and unbiased.

    Yeah .. and I have some beach front property in New Mexico for you.

  8. - Wonder if Cheney’s daughter is available to represent Edwards if this results in a nasty court saga.

  9. This is all just a gambit by the Edwards machine to discredit Ann Coulter’s Faggotgate.

    You know, Edwards dips his wick, the semen contains sperm, the sperm has motility, and it’s all very dangerous. They just didn’t count on, that when the chips were down, Edwards would barricade himself in a comfort station, giving everyone the mental image of him frenetically coiffing his pompadour for a full 15 minutes.

  10. frenetically coiffing his pompadour

    Is that what they call public autoeroticism these days?

    I wonder: will the missus be givne a chance for a nice divorce, or will John-boy pray for metastasis and wait?

  11. - Russia military forces have attacked a Grorgian base in Ossentia. The Georgian President has appealed to the US, saying it was in our interests to help defend them. Five Russian fighter jets have been shot down, according to sources on the ground.

    – Emperor Putin was fiddling around in China for the opening of the Olympic games while Rome burns.

  12. - ….Rumors persist that US military units were in the area up until two days ago, helping to train Georgiam forces.

  13. “They just didn’t count on, that when the chips were down, Edwards would barricade himself in a comfort station, giving everyone the mental image of him frenetically coiffing his pompadour for a full 15 minutes.”

    Heh.

  14. How’s this for standards. Or should I have said Standartenfuhrers?

  15. Sdferr: good, old-fashioned leftist free speech standards. Suppress what what must not be heard in matters of free discourse, justifying it as good for the greatest good: mind control.

  16. “My principal concern is that he’ll be forced to pull a TV preacher weepy apology so oleaginous that it kills all of the nation’s shorebirds.”

    If he does, the sort of people who remain in the GOP will all send him money out of sheer habit. Might be a good idea.

    “Sdferr: good, old-fashioned leftist free speech standards. Suppress what what must not be heard in matters of free discourse, justifying it as good for the greatest good: mind control.”

    A+++++++++ over-the-top blog comment, would definitely lol again!111

    “Well he does not have an (R) in front of his name so this is only natural. Carry on people, carry on.”

    Hey, remember when that gay Republican congressman got nabbed trying to pick up interns via IM, and Fox kept calling him a Democrat? Are we going to have an anecdotal evidence contest?

  17. You’re ruling out the possibility of a modified limited hangout, to wit:

    In light of her health condition, Elizabeth and I decided we wanted to have another child, and our friend, Rielle Hunter, offered to bear a child that Elizabeth and I would later adopt. This was a private decision that was reached after careful soul-searching. We wished to keep it as such.

    Now that our privacy has been violated, I’d like to clarify some key points, I accepted the full measure of responsiblity for my actions and my family’s responsibilities. I make no apologies for my refusal to countenance the rumors that have been swirling about. We ask that you respect our privacy. Elizabeth and I look forward to spending what time we have left together continuing our work for the National Good.

    Why defend when you can go on offense?

    What’s Kaus going to do? Say that Edwards lied?

    -

  18. Hey, waddyaknow?

    I was just offered Amanda Marcotte’s old job.

    suh-weet.

  19. OT, but SarahW, did you see this? (pg 3)

    But the Drew identity was another mask. In fact, Megan Had It Coming was another Jason Fortuny experiment. He, not Lori Drew, Fortuny told me, was the blog’s author. After watching him log onto the site and add a post, I believed him. The blog was intended, he says, to question the public’s hunger for remorse and to challenge the enforceability of cyberharassment laws like the one passed by Megan’s town after her death.

    And, lulz. Sounds a bit like a griefer we know, eh?

  20. Anyone know what Barrett’s point is?

  21. Hey, remember when that gay Republican congressman got nabbed trying to pick up interns via IM, and ,i>Fox kept calling him a Democrat? Are we going to have an anecdotal evidence contest?

    No, I don’t remember that, Barrett. I do remember him leaving Congress, though. An anecdotal evidence contest sounds like fun. You wanna go first?

  22. Barret Brown: “Hey, remember when that gay Republican congressman got nabbed trying to pick up interns via IM, and Fox kept calling him a Democrat? Are we going to have an anecdotal evidence contest?”

    Remember the laudatory proclamation that Gerry Studds (D-MA) got after he got caught shtumphing the pages?


  23. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 8/8 @ 7:34 am #

    – Russia military forces have attacked a Grorgian base in Ossentia. The Georgian President has appealed to the US, saying it was in our interests to help defend them. Five Russian fighter jets have been shot down, according to sources on the ground.

    – Emperor Putin was fiddling around in China for the opening of the Olympic games while Rome burns.

    Oh my, this is big news. The Georgians will need someone like you on the frontline. With your proven experience as a loudmothed insulter I’m sure they’d pay you in many gold coins to scream insults at Russian soldiers nearby, you know, tbya Russikiye dyevucki vse suka blahts! (your Russian women are all whore-bitches!)

    That’s not the sound of artillery, hell no, that’s opportunity knockin’, tough guy.

    Hahahaha!

  24. So your saying one news network called him a Democrat a couple times? Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO the bias is blinding.

    Do you really think that is comparable to this?

  25. Pardon, standing ovation…

    *sigh* the older a body gets, the darker the memories…

  26. Former Rep. Gary Condit should have been so lucky.

    He was.

    Test yourself. Try to tell the story. You don’t know it. There were stories, but no story.

    Looking back at the wires, their Condit coverage was wide and shallow, a mess of fragmentary, unconnected, red-herring factoids about obviously irrelevant people and events. And every Condit feature I remember was about how he felt about being pursued by the press, who’d pursued him only to ask him that.

    An early explosion of inevitably inaccurate second-order detail is a fine way to dispose of a story, make it old news without ever telling it — and to generate citable complaint from the proper quarters that you’re beating a dead horse, which relieves everyone of the obligation ever to explain how it got dead, and makes the press the sole subject of itself (its dearest desire).

    So, this Edwards story…

    It appears to have something to do with media self-analysis. And it feels kinda old.

  27. Speaking of stifling trolls, Karl weighs in.

  28. “of” should be “on” of course. On course.

  29. - thor-gheyski, this of course, is your opportunity to continue making a complete ass of yourself.

    – Go for it hair and nails boy. Don’t forget your murse.

  30. “No, I don’t remember that, Barrett.”

    Michelle Malkin must have forgotten to mention it.

    “Do you really think that is comparable to this?”

    Comparable to the MSM not jumping all over a National Enquirer story? No. I would compare this to the times that the MSM declined to jump all over the National Enquirer stories about Bush’s impending divorce and drunken brawls with Laura.

    “Remember the laudatory proclamation that Gerry Studds (D-MA) got after he got caught shtumphing the pages?”

    I’m aware of that happening; he got off like a Kennedy. But Foley could have tried to stick around, too, if he wanted, just like, you know, Larry Craig has thus far despite his promises to step down and his actual legal troubles related to his own incident.

  31. Barrett has resumed the trollish ways we had grown to know, and not love so much.

  32. I don’t think PW is best place on the net for you to meet men, Big Bear Hunter. Try hotbuddy.com or the Log Cabin Republican site.

    So what if Edwards had a Love child. Don’t most French politicians have child-bearing mistresses?

  33. Larry Craig is gross though.

  34. “Barrett has resumed the trollish ways we had grown to know, and not love so much.”

    Speaking for the crown, are you?

  35. I was eating my kashi twigs and branches when you pulled out the Larry Craig. Ick. Idaho people don’t have very much class I don’t think keeping nasty in office like that.

  36. Wherein a Chyron Cretin gets promoted to be “FoxNews”. Equivalences are such fun!

  37. BumperStickerist-

    If I am ever caught doing anything, ever, I want to hire you.

  38. Edwards is just funny acting all conquesty with his super secret hotel sex visits and then hiding behind his sick wife. His kids are going to be so embarrassed, albeit very rich. I bet they end up doing drugs.

  39. BB are you really trying to compare a blackout of news coverage on a topic to a couple of singular mislabeled party identifiers on one network?

  40. “Wherein a Chyron Cretin gets promoted to be “FoxNews”. Equivalences are such fun!”

    So, if I were to produce an example of Fox News proper doing the exact same thing, you would concede the argument?

  41. Argument? What argument?

  42. Barret Brown: “I’m aware of that happening; he got off like a Kennedy. But Foley could have tried to stick around, too, if he wanted, just like, you know, Larry Craig has thus far despite his promises to step down and his actual legal troubles related to his own incident.”

    The biggest difference would seem to be that the Dems will, if you’ll pardon the turn of phrase, keep the strangest of bedfellows to retain even the most marginal bit of power, whilst Republicans for good or for ill, have some limits, although those would seem to be eroding (re: Vitter). Apparently, the Dems have read their Orwell and have the Doublethink mod fully installed — Dem pederast good, Republican pederast bad. The Republicans would see both as “bad.”

    Barney Frank and the “escort service…”, Teddy Kennedy with the blonde in the pond… his nephew Patches from RI and his 3am “rush to a vote” excuse… Funny how “the party of the people” manages to avoid not being treated like, y’know, one of the people.

  43. - Note to Karl: In response to your quandary, there is no quandary, as long as you don’t feed into the game plan of the doucheweasels.

    – Do not respond to their attacks. They will escalate. Continue not responding, they will eventually see you’re not vulnerable and move on.

    – As was said, the object is to silence you through distraction, and immature ad homs. They are easily trashed assholes. Disregard. Simple.

    – You can, however, expose them if that makes you feel better.

  44. “BB are you really trying to compare a blackout of news coverage on a topic to a couple of singular mislabeled party identifiers on one network?”

    Think carefully. This incident may be true. It is also based on a National Enquirer story. In the past, the National Enquirer has run several front-page stories on the subject of Bush’s allegedly renewed drinking and his allegedly impending divorce from Laura. Do you see where I’m going with this, or do I have to have a seance to evoke Wittgenstein and have him start pulling out the transitive property? Because I swear to God that I have a pot of coffee brewing right now and I will absolutely pretend to be Wittgenstein for the whole damned morning and it’s going to be really, really irritating and surreal.

  45. thor: “So what if Edwards had a Love child. Don’t most French politicians have child-bearing mistresses?”

    Uh-huh… and that has precisely *what* to do with the price of tea in China?

    Edwards made his fidelity and relationship with his wife an issue and hallmark of his campaign. That he is hoisted by his own petard is no one’s fault but his own.

  46. Just let him continue bashing ONE and I repeat ONE network as the symbol of all that is teh evil Reich wing. All the others ones are fair and cut their news in a straight line like Obama used to cut lines of coke in college. Carry on BB carry on.

  47. “Argument? What argument?”

    You seem to be arguing that Fox’s misidentification of a Republican does not count because it was done on its most popular show or something (the Chyron Cretin is O’Reilly, no?).

  48. They have pictures of him with his kid, I do not think that is comparable to allegations that Laura Bush was tryign to get a divorce. If you want to think so go ahead I can’t stop you though. Just do me a favor and post your review of Oliver Stones new movie “W” as soon as you see it.

  49. Barrett Brown: “Think carefully. This incident may be true. It is also based on a National Enquirer story. In the past, the National Enquirer has run several front-page stories on the subject of Bush’s allegedly renewed drinking and his allegedly impending divorce from Laura. Do you see where I’m going with this, or do I have to have a seance to evoke Wittgenstein and have him start pulling out the transitive property?”

    Ah, but there is no “smoke” surrounding Bush on those issues, Barrett. There is a thick bank of smoke around Edwards, perhaps fuelled by the same lack of coverage intended to squash the matter. Likewise, Edwards made his relationship with his ailing wife a central aspect of his political and stressed that infidelity reflects upon the character of a politician.

    Like I said — hoisted on his own petard.

  50. “Just let him continue bashing ONE and I repeat ONE network as the symbol of all that is teh evil Reich wing. All the others ones are fair and cut their news in a straight line like Obama used to cut lines of coke in college. Carry on BB carry on.”

    I’ve never said anything of the sort. On a totally unrelated subject, I can’t believe you deem this to be the only incident in which the MSM has favored Democrats over Republicans zomglol!11111!1!1 Hey, look at me, I’m a conservative blog commenter! NOTHING NEED FOLLOW FROM EVERYTHING!

  51. You seem to be arguing that Fox’s misidentification of a Republican does not count because it was done on its most popular show or something (the Chyron Cretin is O’Reilly, no?).

    No. A Chyron is the widget that is used to put text on the screen; by now it’s probably a generic term, but I believe it was once a specific brand. The Chyron Cretin was the intern in the control room typing away at the widget, entering the material for the scroll.

  52. On a totally unrelated subject, I can’t believe you deem this to be the only incident in which the MSM has favored Democrats over Republicans zomglol!11111!1!1 Hey, look at me, I’m a conservative blog commenter! NOTHING NEED FOLLOW FROM EVERYTHING!

    WTF are you talking about?

  53. “…is O’Reilly?” Answer: No. The chyron cretin is a typist who likely doesn’t even write copy. Could be most anyone (and certainly not someone who’s political views are known.)

    But please oh please ohhh please, please do a famous philosopher for us this morning. Can you do a passable Wilfred Sellars instead though, rather than that neurotic goof Ludy?

  54. “Ah, but there is no “smoke” surrounding Bush on those issues, Barrett.”

    Yes, Bush has never been a problem drinker in the past and people who give up drinking never relapse, particularly under stressful conditions, so there’s no “smoke,” whereas there’s plenty of “smoke” around the Edwards thing because Mickey Kaus is talking about it and… okay, I’m done. Also, I’m assuming you read those NE articles since you know so much about the smoke-free situation described therein. I’ll bet they were all over the Pajamas Media blogs, eh? Because those people are really concerned with equality of coverage and not, say, Jesus and explosions.

  55. - Barrett, does it ever occur to you that arguments to the effect “well they did it too”, qualifies at the level of 5th grade discourse?

    – The fact the Left cannot confine itself to the subject at hand, apparently from some sort of embarrassment that one of its own gets caught with his or her dick shoved up his own anus, seems to be the motivator. Why not just discuss the Edwards “event” on its own merits.

    – The reality based community? When? Where?

  56. “But please oh please ohhh please, please do a famous philosopher for us this morning.”

    No, because now you *want* me to do it, so I’m not – WAIT A SECOND, REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY!

    1. The world is all that is the case.

  57. Aww, rats.

  58. BBH – “Barrett, does it ever occur to you that arguments to the effect “well they did it too”, qualifies at the level of 5th grade discourse?”

    I’m sorry, BBH, I’m going to have to direct your comments to Mythos McGee, who was overheard to have told the duchess:

    “Remember the laudatory proclamation that Gerry Studds (D-MA) got after he got caught shtumphing the pages?”

    Uh-oh! Blowback!

  59. I’ll bet they were all over the Pajamas Media blogs, eh? Because those people are really concerned with equality of coverage and not, say, Jesus and explosions.

    Again, WTF are you talking about?

  60. I’m sorry, BBH, I’m going to have to direct your comments to Mythos McGee, who was overheard to have told the duchess:

    WTF is your point?

  61. Well if your only response is to point out a label identifier on the scroll at the bottom of the TV on one news network is comparable in anyway to this you are a freakin idiot.

    What I find telling about people like BB is that they do not seem to have a problem with bias, so much as a problem with bias that goes against them. Which is why you point solely to Fox news, which you think is biased against your beliefs. Wouldn’t a better response be to be opposed to any form of bias, and THEN try to draw equivalence between right wing and left wing bias? No you went right out of the gate with “Damn the Faux news!!!!1111!!!”

  62. - Uh huh. Hard hitting retort Barrett.

    – Unfortunately, as usual, it occurs after you jerk the thread off on another “well they did it too” wander.

    – Lets pretend you’re a serious adult. It may be hard but give it a try.

    – What do you think Edwards should do if this story is factual?

  63. Barrett Brown: “Yes, Bush has never been a problem drinker in the past and people who give up drinking never relapse, particularly under stressful conditions, so there’s no “smoke,” whereas there’s plenty of “smoke” around the Edwards thing because Mickey Kaus is talking about it and… okay, I’m done. ”

    Ah, but is there any sort of third party confirmation of the Bush headlines? A police report, perhaps? These things exist in the case of Edwards.

    Barrett Brown: “Also, I’m assuming you read those NE articles since you know so much about the smoke-free situation described therein. I’ll bet they were all over the Pajamas Media blogs, eh? Because those people are really concerned with equality of coverage and not, say, Jesus and explosions.”

    I have been following the coverage of the non-coverage, yes, although I don’t read the NE. That the LAT decreed that not even bloggers on their site were to discuss the matter is suspicious, especially in light of the media’s treatment of similar, if politically polar opposite, instances.

    If nothing else, the deafening silence suggests the media is in the tank.

  64. To even bring up any other example of misconduct or possible misconduct by anyone of any party is a smokescreen. The simple truth is that the MSM seems to be embargoing this story and it is fair to ask why, and also fair to ask why one would defend such behavior.

  65. Well, BB did imply that the MSM is biased for the dems. At least, I think he did. The Fox news thing? Just silly. Of course, they’re biased for the Republicans. They are the only ones.

  66. “- What do you think Edwards should do if this story is factual?”

    He should kill himself because he’s an economic populist and a social conservative who can’t even beat Cheney in a debate, which is pretty much the worst thing one can be. He’s against gay marriage for the usual amorphous reasons; meanwhile, his own marriage may very well be a bit amorphous itself. As for what he *should* do, pragmatically? The Bumper Sticker fellow had a pretty clever idea. On moral grounds, I really don’t have a solid take on what a politician owes to the citizenry with regards to his personal life – but, again, most politicians have no regard for our own personal lives, so off with his head.

  67. A+++++++++ over-the-top blog comment, would definitely lol again!111

    Solzenitzin. The Bible. All Christian preachers. Darwinian evolutionists. Hillary’s man, Judd Leggum, is part of the effort to frighten people into silence.

    Democrats are becoming political scum.

    Just a few of the those suppressed, exiled, imprisoned, or murdered in the people’s paradise, the USSR. Which was and is the leftist’s dream.

  68. You seem to be arguing that Fox’s misidentification of a Republican does not count because it was done on its most popular show or something (the Chyron Cretin is O’Reilly, no?)

    You think that a graphics error immediately corrected (by the first rerun) is equivalent to the many examples of the Name That Party game that I can easily bury you with? I don’t.

    I thought you were going to find us an example of someone at Fox calling Foley a Democrat, Barrett. That ain’t it. A transcript would be nice, video would be better.

    Meanwhile, it was made perfectly clear elsewhere: http://tinyurl.com/5bo9h4 By contrast, this fellow’s party affiliation is never identified here: http://tinyurl.com/5bo9h4

  69. Barrett Brown: “On moral grounds, I really don’t have a solid take on what a politician owes to the citizenry with regards to his personal life – but, again, most politicians have no regard for our own personal lives, so off with his head.”

    You seem to lack imagination… if nothing else, the “thee but not me” approach to legislation should be sent to the bit-bucket.

  70. So, basically, Barrette is once more full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

    Yet another “yabbut” troll.

  71. “He should kill himself because he’s an economic populist and a social conservative who can’t even beat Cheney in a debate, which is pretty much the worst thing one can be.”

    – I’ll treat that as a serious response, simply because apparently its the best you choose to offer.

    – From that I take it you have no regard for the good house Lawyer. So then why defend him?

  72. Cut and paste whackup. Sorry.

    Solzenitzin. The Bible. All Christian preachers. Darwinian evolutionists.

    Just a few of the those suppressed, exiled, imprisoned, or murdered in the people’s paradise, the USSR. Which was and is the leftist’s dream.

    Suppression, political exile, scum, physical intimidation is the left’s arsenal.

    It is not over the topp. It is true.

  73. thor: “So what if Edwards had a Love child. Don’t most French politicians have child-bearing mistresses?”

    Why are fucking libtards so obsessed with remaking this country like France?

  74. …I can’t believe you deem this to be the only incident in which the MSM has favored Democrats over Republicans… [effusions excised]

    Nice try. Might even work with some people.

    Barrett, the point of the original post is that the same media that thought a hint from somebody’s mother’s sister’s son’s girlfriend’s ex, who heard it from his friend who knows ’cause he’s a relief night desk clerk at the Connecticut Avenue Hilton and therefore has connections, that McCain might not be a total straight arrow was worth three days of above-the-fold coverage; the same media who agitated, forcefully and ultimately successfully, for breaking a Court order in order to publish salacious details of a nasty divorce, thereby knocking a Republican out of the race and allowing the Ascenscion of Obama; that same media is ignoring massive indications of impropriety on the part of a Democrat, to the point of suppressing any mention where possible — and this at a time when they really need a good juicy scandal to attract the slack-mouthed to the newsstands/7 o’clock news to boost circulation and viewership, ’cause their revenues and therefore their stocks are tanking. Something of a puzzle, if you assume even the nasty, car-crash-devotion version of “good faith” they like to peddle.

    Oh, and the Craig thing isn’t hard to understand. You just have to remember that one of their tertiary goals, after the reinforcing primaries of “elect Democrats” and “destroy the eeeeeevul Bush”, is establishing homosexuality as the only virtuous form of sexuality. The Craig story puts goals in conflict — do they destroy a Republican, or promote Teh Gay? The mixed coverage just reflects their difficulty in deciding.

    Regards,
    Ric

  75. Why are fucking libtards so obsessed with remaking this country like France?

    Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite.

    Oh, and the Reign of Terror.

  76. Barrett Brown is rather tedious. I never can understand the point to his comments.

  77. Barrett Brown is rather tedious. I never can understand the point to his comments.

    That is the point.

  78. “From that I take it you have no regard for the good house Lawyer. So then why defend him?”

    I am not defending Edwards. I am debating you guys on the subject of the media. Politically, Edwards is closer to you than me.

  79. “Darwinian evolutionists.”

    Uh-oh.

  80. “You just have to remember that one of their tertiary goals, after the reinforcing primaries of “elect Democrats” and “destroy the eeeeeevul Bush”, is establishing homosexuality as the only virtuous form of sexuality.”

    I’ll try to remember that.

  81. “I am debating you guys on the subject of the media.

    – So then you wish to go on record that there is no media bias. That the majority of the legacy media is apolitical, fair and balanced in its treatment of both major parties?

    – Seriously?

  82. Politically, Edwards is closer to you than me.

    *snort*

  83. “- So then you wish to go on record that there is no media bias. That the majority of the legacy media is apolitical, fair and balanced in its treatment of both major parties?”

    No. I don’t subscribe to sweeping generalizations.

  84. Just scanned my conscious – I *try* not to subscribe to sweeping generalizations.

  85. “Conscience,” rather. I did not mean to scan an adjective. I regret the error.

  86. And, once more, Barrette refuses to actually state his position. Classic “yabbut” trolling — disagree without actually taking a position. Taking a position would require defending it, put simply disagreeing requires nothing.

  87. Ric, it worked on me, but then again, I’m more of a worker bee. You’re response, as usual, was very enlightening as well as interesting.

    I tried, BB, but you really do seem to type a lot without really saying anything. Case in point: “I am not defending Edwards. I am debating you guys on the subject of the media. Politically, Edwards is closer to you than me.”

    Huh? What is your point in regards to bias in the emedia? And expound on how Edwards is closer to “you than me” (You said something about broad generalizations, I think)? You failed you’re own statement. I’m guessing it has something to do with social issues, though. I’m guessing you have more in common with the majority of commenters on this site in that area, too.

  88. “Your” not “You’re”. The worker bee thing and all :)

  89. Actus rides again, I suppose.

  90. I am not defending Edwards. I am debating you guys on the subject of the media.

    Really? Then why did you open with this?

    If he does, the sort of people who remain in the GOP will all send him money out of sheer habit. Might be a good idea.

  91. Al Gore could probably fuel his landlocked Queen Mary with that oleaginous shit in case anyone was wondering.

  92. “No. I don’t subscribe to sweeping generalizations.”

    – Apparently your compadres in the MSM don’t share your moderation.

    – Two simple cases in point from 7+ years of anti-administration full metal jacket propaganda that would fill several pages of this blog if I cited every instance of mis-reporting:

    – 38 straight front page half inch headlines in the NYT on the Abu Graib “story”, ballyhooed as “proof of widespread US military prisoner abuse, epidemic in our intentional mistreatment and inhumanity, a military out of control.”

    – Facts: 5 people indicted at one facility. 2 convicted, one Officer charged for negligence.

    – Another story hyped for 2 years by all the major MSM outlets:

    – “Rove guilty of outing CIA active duty Agent- expected to be indicted by special prosecutor”

    Facts: Rove agreed he had heard the story from another reporter to a reporter. Armitage was the source, and he was repeating the story from yet another reporter. The Wilsons suddenly “couldn’t remember” the very first time they had to testify in open court. The question: “Is it true Mr. Wilson that you bragged about your wifes profession to friends and published some details on your web site a full year before the Novak story>”. Answer: “I don’t recall”.

    – The examples are just too numerous to list. Weapons depots that were “lost”, that turn out bever to have existed in the first place. Imaginary Q’urans that were “flushed down toilets”, when the only documented case turns out to have been done by a Gitomo prisoner to “show the press an example” of the widespread abuse. Aerial bombing of a Lebanon city that turns out to be photoshopped. Soldiers that were damned for years by the Presa as murderers and luminaries like “don’t take the deal” Murtha on the floor of the Senate, who have now all been aquited of any charges.

    – It goes on and on and on.

    – Yet you contend there is no such bias. Is your partisanship that blinding?

  93. Nope, no bias here.

  94. Pablo and BBH, that is what gets me about alleged libertarians such as Barret Brown. And he may indeed be a libertarian, but it isn’t a controversial thing at all to say that the MSM is biased for the democrats. It’s fucking obvious. And it has been documented time and time again. I think Fox is biased for the republicans. The “fair and balanced” thing? I’m not sure about Fair but you bet your ass it’s Balanced. It balances out the networks.

  95. - Well, of course the Left never will admit to the- MSM bias since that would immediately call into question the objectivity of everything they report. So thats their motive for the feckless, indefensible denial directly in the face of reams of dicumented instances. They have no choice really.

    – Unfortunately for them, economic facts like the drop of 82% of the value of NYT stock in the last three years shows that partisan driven mendacity has its price.

    – Why a Libertarian would share such tactics is not so obvious, at least not to me.

  96. Well, well, well. Looky here.

    Sen. John Edwards, D-NC, tells ABC News’ Bob Woodruff that he did indeed have an affair with novice film-maker Rielle Hunter.

  97. But the press certainly wasn’t trying to cover for him…

  98. The moon up above, it shines down upon our skin
    Whispering words that scream of outrageous sin
    We all want the stuff that’s found in our wildest dreams
    It gets kinda rough in the back of our limousine

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