Unlike the secretive Booooooosh! administration, Obama’s will be transparently transparent. In fact, it will emit more light than is beamed upon it. In short, it will be, at a minimum, fluorescent.
Meanwhile, though, sdferr has noticed in the comments this comment, which, I thought, deserved its very own post:
Found at JOM, under a comment by Sara, (our Sara) attributed to City-Data.com:
1. Occidental College records  Not released
2. Columbia College records  Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper  “not availableâ€Â
4. Harvard College records  Not released
5. Selective Service Registration  Not released
6. Medical records  Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule  “not availableâ€Â
8. Law practice client list  Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate  Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth  Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published  None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles  None
All of which amounts to a canard, since they are nobody else’s business, leastways the voters’.
There are also troubles with his accounts of his employment and accomplishments.
This is what some folks tout as release of his health records.
Here is a full list of Obama’s not voting in Congress.
He does, though, like to sponsor bills.
His record as an Illinois State Senator.
On balance: It’s been a good day, so far. I’ve been called a racist a couple of times and Barrett blew up at me for not thinking that his evidence settled the issue regarding Baracky’s history of non-publication at The Harvard Law Review, because I’m going to track him down and discredit him with Google or dismiss him out of hand. I’ve agreed to the conference call, BTW.
From NYT, 1990, First Black Elected to Head Harvard’s Law Review
The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago’s South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.
”The fact that I’ve been elected shows a lot of progress,” Mr. Obama said today in an interview. ”It’s encouraging.
”But it’s important that stories like mine aren’t used to say that everything is O.K. for blacks. You have to remember that for every one of me, there are hundreds or thousands of black students with at least equal talent who don’t get a chance,” he said, alluding to poverty or growing up in a drug environment.
*******
Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review’s 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said.
Until the 1970’s the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.
That system came under attack in the 1970’s and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.
*******
Mr. Obama succeeds Peter Yu, a first-generation Chinese-American, as president of The Law Review. After graduation, Mr. Yu plans to serve as a clerk for Chief Judge Patricia Wald on the of the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.
Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama’s election ”was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.”
The first female editor of The Harvard Law Review was Susan Estrich, in 1977, who recently resigned as a professor at Harvard Law School to take a similar post at the University of Southern California. Ms. Estrich was campaign manager for Gov. Michael S. Dukakis of Massachusetts in his campaign for the Presidency in 1988.
Racist!
“Those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing.”  Dr. Phil
I recall an excellent comment from Rick the other day, about how many especially older Russians are so much used to the system of a known misery, that they would not want or understand anything else
Journalist: “Where is your hidey hole, Barack?”
Barack “Not from Central Casting” Obama: “Who sent you?”
By “attributed to City-Data.com,” I’m assuming that you mean “attributed to an anonymous commenter on City-Data.com who does not explain what the source of this info may be.”
#3
I heard about a Soviet-Era Russian who immigrated to the U.S. (don’t remember how), but that she was freaked out by the grocery store because there were so many options just for ASPIRIN!
She was used to there being only one kind of aspirin, one kind of bread, one kind of potato… assuming there were any at all.
This should be an ad I think unless maybe what would a list like this look like with respect to McCain? There I think might be some military record thingies that are private. I remember reading about this from some Democrat people. So unless McCain is 100% demonstrably transparent then … I dunno really.
Tabula Rasa.
Well, Barrett, if you doubt the veracity of that list — and there’s no reason why you shouldn’t — then it should be short work for someone of your intelligence to produce, say, half of those documents, which would cast serious doubt on the rest of the list.
And don’t go producing that birth certificate that Kos posted. I ain’t sayin’ it’s a phony, just that his Selective Service Registration would be a bit more convincing, noam sayin’?
Man, I’ve seen more information available on people in the Federal Witness Protection Program…
I tell you, this guy is a Manchurian Candidate.. He didn’t even exist before they invented him for the last Democratic Convention.. Has there even been anyone come forward and say they knew him in college ? Or from Hawaii?
and you heard right.
Government planning does not mean variety, dicentra, and options.
Just be happy you can get anything….
Here’s another location of the same list.
And another.
Well, as for the Harvard Law Review thing, he was editing the damned thing, and this doesn’t appear to even have anything to do with him not releasing stuff since there’s nothing to release if he didn’t write anything, and it’s not like the HLA is classified or anything, so I’m kind of weirded out by that.
As for the law practice client list – well, that’s not really his decision, now is it? He doesn’t own that law firm, and has no right to release any client info, assuming he even has those records.
With regards to some of the other stuff, can someone please tell me real quickly how to properly insert a link here? Last time I tried to do that, I broke the internets.
“Here’s another location of the same list.”
Hey, look, another anonymous posting of the same, unsourced list! And at the Hillary Clinton forums!
“And another.”
I can’t click through for some reason (404), but this appears to be another post from the Free Republic. What are you trying to tell me?
Okay, I can’t go through that link for some reason, but it appears to be another forum posting from Free Republic.
Do you want me to go through the internet and find several posts to the effect that all of the world’s leaders are 4th dimensional lizard beings who feed on fear and
I just don’t know what to think about this w/o thor (our own little Bob Herbert) here escorting us through these racist comments and phallic context.
I mean that it seems like a veritable tower of unsourced and unverified documents. A tower, I say.
Oops. Look like I just broke my own internets for a second, there, too!
Unlike the secretive Booooooosh! administration, Obama’s will be transparently transparent. In fact, it will emit more light than is beamed upon it. In short, it will be, at a minimum, fluorescent.
There you go again!
Secret coded racist dogwhistles, with symbolic phallic emissions!
Barrett I think the point of the Law Review thingie is that while he was editor he never published any of his own work, which is very odd since that’s one of the perks to being editor except maybe he felt like his own work wasn’t worthy which is possible I think.
Racists
Read this for the html linking method.
http://www.w3schools.com/HTML/html_links.asp
I bet his Columbia thesis paper is some scary-assed radical marxist shit. Who writes a thesis for a B.A. though? That would be weird. But I bet if he did it’s some some scary-assed radical marxist shit.
Phallic emissions? Please, I’m eating my dinner.
Chirac was definitely one of those lizard thingers if that helps.
Not if you know what’s good for you. The InJewCon is not amused with your insolence.
Jim Geraghty at NRO campaign spot on Obama’s law clients.
“9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate  Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth  Not released”
Whats he waiting for, an engraved invitation?
Maybe he’ll release them after the convention.
What’ll happen if they say he’s too skinny I cannot say.
Racist!
As to the Harvard Law Review, it is true that nothing can be released if nothing was published. However, not being published in and of itself is odd for the Senior Editor – he should at least have a “note” from his time on the review.
I certainly would like to see his College and law school records. I’m very interested to know his LSAT scores and college grades were and whether or not they match up with others at Harvard during that time period – I.e, was he an affirmative action admission?
And, since we know he did not “write on” to the review, and it appears impossible for him to have “graded on” based on what we have been told about his grades at Harvard (allegedly decent, but not stellar), I am curious as to how, exactly he got on to the review in the first instance?
As to Selective Service – I think that is probably a red herring. I doubt he failed to register as school loans require registration (and we know from Mrs. O! that they have school loans).
I agree that his client list from his limited law practice experience should not be released – believe it or not, just the fact of a lawyer client relationship can be protected by the attorney-client privilege.
With all that said, if this were a republican candidate with that many things unrealsed, there would be a constant drumbeat in the press about it. Reminds me of John Kerry – who still has not released his military recordsd and who was covered for this by the Press, to this very day.
Still working on this, but with regards to selective service registration – I don’t have mine, either, and I filled mine out back in 1998 or there abouts. The SSS would have Obama’s since he was born after 1960, assuming he filled one out (it looks like there was a period in the late 70s when men were not required to submit their info to the feds, and this may have applied to Obama). At any rate, it looks like one can make a Freedom of Information Request to find this out, but the fact that this little phantom list includes this as some sort of attack on Obama is ridiculous, as citizens are not responsible for retaining those records and, if I recall correctly, you just fill the damned thing out and send it back to the feds without keeping any documentation for yourself.
Regarding the birth cert and live birth cert: remember a few weeks ago and that weekend hubbub about whether his mother had been in Hawaii long enough after a prolonged absence for Obama to acytually be a citizen?
Hill’s got the originals. She’ll release ’em in Denver.
Baracky doesn’t have any military records cause he never served in the military. He purposely deprived the military of his tactical genius. This is troubling.
You know what, Dan? I think I’ll have canard for dinner, under glass.
Troop withdrawal doesn’t take tactical genius.
Well, as for the Harvard Law Review thing, he was editing the damned thing, and this doesn’t appear to even have anything to do with him not releasing stuff since there’s nothing to release if he didn’t write anything, and it’s not like the HLA is classified or anything, so I’m kind of weirded out by that.
You have it backwards. You think that it’s strange to note that he didn’t publish any articles for the Harvard Law Review, since he didn’t write any. That is precisely the point. The fact that he managed to serve as the editor of one of the most prestigious law reviews in the country without publishing a single article in his own name is strange, maybe unprecendented. Taken by itself it does seem like an inconsequential fact, but it wasn’t taken by itself. It was included in a list of similar facts that form a pattern.
Barret Brown: ” At any rate, it looks like one can make a Freedom of Information Request to find this out, but the fact that this little phantom list includes this as some sort of attack on Obama is ridiculous, as citizens are not responsible for retaining those records and, if I recall correctly, you just fill the damned thing out and send it back to the feds without keeping any documentation for yourself.”
Actually, either you retain a card or they send one back, leastwise in my personal experience. I know this because I still have mine.
Umm, is this ttransparent administration going to be like the one in the 1990s, which was the most ethical one ever?
Regarding the birth cert and live birth cert: remember a few weeks ago and that weekend hubbub about whether his mother had been in Hawaii long enough after a prolonged absence for Obama to acytually be a citizen?
I thought that all people born to U.S. Citizens were U.S. Citizens, regardless of place of birth?
Mine is buried away somewhere, under “1978”, Chtulhu.
In my opinion, as I’ve mentioned before, I think Obama’s every bit as American as I am for presidential purposes. I also believe a) he was born, and b) that he was a live birth. As to whether he was technically a bastard at the time of his birth, I don’t care.
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth  Not released
Actually, I have this. It begins, “And there were in the same country, shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flocks by night.”
afall–
Indeed, this is what was considered normal at the Harvard Law Review. Nobody can come up with another name of an editor who published nothing in it.
Hey,
alphieafall, why don’t you tell us? I’m sure the answers are out there somewhere, and it seems important to you.Susan Estrich was the first female HLR editor, why don’t you ask her whether editors commonly published themselves, afall?
“Umm, is this ttransparent administration going to be like the one in the 1990s, which was the most ethical one ever?”
He has sponsored, along with McCain and Coburn, government contract transparency legislation.
I think the Harvard Law Review (i.e, not publishing anything) points to the fundamental nature of Obama – padding his resume without actually doing anything.
By itself, it would not mean much – we all padded our resumes while in school to get jobs after. I joined clubs, etc., where I did nothing just to put it on my resume.
However, w/ Obama, it appears that such is all he has ever done. He accomplished nothing as a “community organizer”; or as “state senator” or even now as a Senator. He appears to simply continue to be promoted up without ever actually doing anything in the job he is promoted up from.
I’ve known plenty of individuals like that through life. It’s hard to believe thought that such would be considered sufficient to be president by large chunk of americans.
Maybe this not doing anything constitutes change.
You know, for a self described skeptic, you sure seem to be awfully sanguine about Barack “Not from Central Casting” Obama there, Barrett.
Oh, I’m metaskeptical all the time, Sdferr.
“Indeed, this is what was considered normal at the Harvard Law Review. Nobody can come up with another name of an editor who published nothing in it.”
That’s interesting. I would have thought that no matter how smart an editor was, they’d still just be a law student and there would be better submissions out there.
Geraghty cites some case law arguing otherwise. Apparently there are cases where the relationship is privileged, but it’s generally not the case.
Naw, it’d be like Lewis Lapham shutting up before retiring from Harper’s. A shocka.
“but the fact that this little phantom list includes this as some sort of attack on Obama is ridiculous, as citizens are not responsible for retaining those records and, if I recall correctly, you just fill the damned thing out and send it back to the feds without keeping any documentation for yourself.”
It’s just another brick in the wall, Garrett.
Don’t get me wrong, it takes a certain skill and talent to rise high w/o any actual accomplisments. It is very impressive how high up Obama has risen without any actual achievments to point to.
So what? Does he practice transparency? Apparently not — his version of releasing his medical records was a note from his doctor.
– Barrett: “You silly NeoCons. Always asking mundane questions about the esteemed cult Leader. He’s told you all you need to know, so stop whimpering, and trying to invent something sinister where there is nothing…..Ummm…By which I mean nothing you should be concerned with. The Party will decide for you. Welcome to Utopia.”
– sashal: “Shut up and eat your borscht, and be damn glad the Party lets you have anything.”
– Its very possible the aliens did, in fact, invade us through the use of “ear worms” from the Planet Marxcopia, just as the book said.
“#Comment by SevenEleventy on 8/6 @ 2:09 pm #
Troop withdrawal doesn’t take tactical genius.”
Talk to Erwin Rommel about hte retreat across North Africa.
Running away, however is a different kettle of trout.
Also, massive lol @ the graphic they use at the top of the SSS.gov site.
“You have it backwards. You think that it’s strange to note that he didn’t publish any articles for the Harvard Law Review, since he didn’t write any. That is precisely the point. The fact that he managed to serve as the editor of one of the most prestigious law reviews in the country without publishing a single article in his own name is strange, maybe unprecendented.”
Maybe not; I can’t seem to find any articles that Scalia might have written during his time as editor there, and he’s the first one I checked for a comparison. So, can we knock “didn’t write for a magazine he edited” off the list of “strange” and “unprecedented” things for the moment until it can be verified that such a thing is actually “strange” or “unprecedented”?
“Indeed, this is what was considered normal at the Harvard Law Review.”
Where are you getting this information from?
“You know, for a self described skeptic, you sure seem to be awfully sanguine about Barack “Not from Central Casting†Obama there, Barrett.”
How so? I attack Democrats all the time, but in person, having spent the last eight years living in liberal enclaves. When I come here, I come to debate, not to agree with people. My attacks on Democrats may be found elsewhere if this is some concern to you.
That’s interesting. I would have thought that no matter how smart an editor was, they’d still just be a law student and there would be better submissions out there.
Well, it wasn’t the Harvard Law Review, but every person who worked on a law review at my school ended up being published (usually not an article, but a “note”). That was the main point of being on law review – to get published and be able to show that to future employers.
Like I said, that, by itself, is not damning. But it does seem to fit a pattern where Obama gets some job and then achieves very little or nothing in that job before moving on to bigger and better things.
“…Senator Obama, an Illinois Democrat now seeking the presidency, suggests in his book that his years in New York were a pivotal period: He ran three miles a day, buckled down to work and “stopped getting high,†which he says he had started doing in high school. Yet he declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years. …”
Janey Scott, “Obama’s Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say” NYT, Oct. 30, 2007
“He has sponsored, … government contract transparency legislation.”
Sponsored.
Not “wrote”?
Not “originated”?
Not “anything”?
“Is this what happens in law reviews, that they publish the works of their own editors ?
– Why are the SickFrogs so afraid of knowing anything about the Obamessiah. Afraid of what they’ll find?
– Compare and contrast the mighty Marxo-crat party wide effort to research every freckle on Bush’s ass for the entire 7+ years.
– Something doesn’t add up here.
“It’s just another brick in the wall, Garrett.”
We’re going to find out where you fans really stand!
“So what? Does he practice transparency? Apparently not  his version of releasing his medical records was a note from his doctor.”
Right and there is a difference between a person being transparent and the government being transparent. I don’t know how much he’ll change on things close to the president’s office like executive privilege, but he has helped laws that make other parts of the executive branch more transparent.
ON the client list thing – yes the very fact of attorney-client relattionship is not always protected by the privilege, but the point is that it sometimes is, which shows a real concern in our society and law for protecting that info if the client does not want it released. Thus, I would give O! a pass on this one. Moreover, frankly, I don’t assume that an attorney has all of the positions of their clients – even positions they argued for their clients. Sometimes as an attorney you represent people or make arguments that you philosophically don’t agree with, but that are based in the law.
Moreover, I would think it would really be up to whatever firm he worked for and not Obama himself.
Again though, I point out that the real issue here is that if this were a republican that had not released such info, the left and the media would be having a fit.
The hubbub was due to an obscure U.S. law that specified something like this: if one parent was not a U.S. citizen and the other was, the one that was the citizen had to be resident in a state or territory for four years before the birth if the child in question. A forged certificate of live birth for Obama was posted, I think, at KOS, and the dates were screwy, raising questions about Obama’s qualifications under the constitutional requirements for natural-birth citizenship of presidents. An interesting tempest ensued for a few hours. A good time was had by all.
“My attacks on Democrats may be found elsewhere if this is some concern to you.”
No. No it’s not, Garrett.
@50, heh, it’s meta’s all the way down!
Dude on Dennis Miller was analyzing the books he wrote, and he’s certain beyond certain that the books were ghostwritten. Dude himself is the guy they run to when some celeb turns in a bad manuscript and he fixes it. He says the writing is way too good for an amateur.
Which is not all that big a deal, except that when both books were published, Barack was nobody. And publishers don’t pay good money to ghostwrite a biography  let alone two  unless the person’s name is big enough to sell the books.
So who was it that put up the cash to have these books written for Barack? What kind of future were they anticipating for the man? Myself, I figure that if Barack were that talented a writer, he’d have written all kinds of other stuff even if it weren’t published.
Like Jeff: I’m sure he’s got scads of half-finished manuscripts and stray passages stuffed into a box somewhere. Does Barack? I doubt it.
Dude is being passed off as “perfect” by whitewashing his past.
And I hereby denounce myself for that last sentence, it being explicitly racist.
afall: “Right and there is a difference between a person being transparent and the government being transparent. ”
No, afall, it is the difference between leadership and hypocrisy.
Why doesn’t someone just forge the damn things on Microsoft Word and give them to Dan Rather in exchange for unimpeded access to Paris Hilton? The least you’ll get out of it is a book deal.
Also, since everyone is so ga-ga about Barry’s hardwood prowess, will he ever release his assists to turnover ratio? Shooting percentage?
Courage.
And when the person is running for office of chief executive of the government? Shouldn’t we expect him to practice the same standards?
I’ll bet Karl Malone could out-write that whippersnapper Barack “Not from Central Casting” Obama.
dicentra, I don’t know about the ghostwritten thing. I mean, wouldn’t it be hard to tell good editing from ghostwriting if the guy had any writing chops at all?
So, I just called the editorial office of the Harvard Law Review and it turns out there’s no way of verifying which student wrote what for the Harvard Law Review because they are all unsigned, and the identities of the authors are not given out. If you don’t believe me, call for yourself(617-495-7889) or e-mail them or whatever, as I’m sure the nice lady doesn’t want 20 phone calls this evening. So, there goes the unverifiable and unlikely “we know that Obama didn’t publish anything in the Harvard Legal Review” meme, eh? I mean, not that this meme is going to go away despite it being untrue. Anyway, this is a neat journalism trick that you might want to start using every once in a while instead of just printing whatever semi-lucid nonsense you happen to come across on the interwebs. THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, PEOPLE! kthanxby
Dicentra, you spooked be with “So who was it that put up the cash to have these books written for Barack?”
Damn! I used spooked. I heartily condemn myself.
– Geezer – Since, to date, an authentic birth certificate, replete with the accurate dates, pertinent to the discussion, has yet to be produced, the “issue”, however obscure, stands unresolved. No one seems interested in pursuing it, from which we can all draw our own conclusions.
– On the flip side, McCains birth rights were challenged, and met the tests. So thats where things stand for better or worse.
– Just as an aside, I personally would be disappointed if Obama lost out from any such technicality. I want to see the Left get their fucked up Marxists brains beat in fair and square so they’ll go back in their hidey holes for another 30 years.
OK, if Barack is the Manchurian Candidate, who gets to dress up as a playing card? And who gets to be the brainwashed assassin? And who’s Angela Lansbury? It sure ain’t Hill.
Great, Barrett. Now call up Obama’s campaign and ask them which Harvard Law Review pieces were written by Obama.
“No. No it’s not, Garrett.”
I love how you guys switch from “I THINK YOU ARE ACTUALLY A DEMOCRAT/FASCIST/SOCIALIST/COMMIENAZI” and “IMMA GONNA GO GOOGLE YOUR NAME AND FIND SOME DIRT ON YOU” to “NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU BELIEVE LITTLE BOY NOW GO OUT AND PLAY LOLOLOLOL” in, like, point three seconds.
Then, please, get back to us. kthxbye!
Who did that?
You are seriously full of yourself, aren’t you?
I mean, wouldn’t it be hard to tell good editing from ghostwriting if the guy had any writing chops at all?
As an editor and occasional ghostwriter, I can tell you that good editing is no substitute for writing genius. The dude on Dennis Miller was referring to the poetic turns of phrase and such, not mere rhetorical excellence. Dude even speculated that Maya Angelou had a hand in it, though I’m sure there are plenty of good, frustrated writers out there who could do just as good a job.
<Perry Mason moment>OK, it was me! I wrote them! I wrote them and I am glad!</Perry Mason moment>
“Great, Barrett. Now call up Obama’s campaign and ask them which Harvard Law Review pieces were written by Obama.”
Maybe you should do it; you need the practice.
Better yet, you should call the Harvard Law Review like I did and ask them if they would release that information even at the author’s request.
So I WAS correct, and Hillary does have the goods on Obama’s citizenship, and she WILL produce them in Denver…
Golly, I scared myself there for a second…
Why do that, Barrett? Let’s ask Obama himself. Don’t you trust him?
Anyway, I’m out for the day. Good evening to all.
See, it’s like a blurry photograph and PhotoShop: if the original doesn’t contain the detail, you can’t use PhotoShop to sharpen the image until it does, dozens of cop shows notwithstanding.
“Not “wroteâ€Â?”
I think staffers write all this stuff. According to this.
Obama and Coburn were working on it when McCain’s office called and wanted his name added. That bill doesn’t seem to have passed yet. The article references another bill that the three were on which did pass.
“That was the main point of being on law review – to get published and be able to show that to future employers.”
The NYT article about his teaching said that he turned his editorship into his teaching position at Chicago — based on a recommendation from a conservative professor he edited. So it looks like that purpose was fulfilled.
I wonder whether the campaign would like to point out anything Obama may have written for the Harvard Law Review, since I and a friend disagree over whether he had written anything for it.
Thanks,
Dan Collins
#89 – Which makes PhotoShop the perfect tool for the Left, since the goal is not to “add detail, or sharpen”, but RatherGateâ„¢ to obscure, revise, and remove, and in extreme cases, produce entirely from blank sheets of paper. (ibid: See the 1957 example of version 1.01 of Microsoft Word® – TANG documents, file copies, as well as pre-1940 IBM Selectricâ„¢ typewriters – Ed.)
BTW, here are your options for communicating with Obama’s Campaign by email:
(select from list)
Event Information
A Policy Issue
A Donation Inquiry
An Obama Store Inquiry
Hosting an Event
Website Suggestions
Reporting a Problem with the Website
Sending a Message to Michelle Obama
Making a Comment
That brackets things a little.
At McCain’s Blog, the pulldown is:
General Question
Donation Question
Website Question
Sorry, my exit was premature; can’t stay away from you guys!
Mr. Collins, I have a better idea than submitting comments to somebody’s intern. How about we do a conference call in which we call the two campaigns and ask them five questions? I don’t work directly for any periodicals at the moment, but I’ve managed to get some phone time with campaigns and the like in the past. We will record the call in its entirety and then post it on the internets. Then, everyone can decide for themselves which campaign is more forthcoming. I believe you have my e-mail; get in touch if you’re interested in doing this.
“Since, to date, an authentic birth certificate, replete with the accurate dates, pertinent to the discussion, has yet to be produced, the “issueâ€Â, however obscure, stands unresolved.”
To me its a bit of win for them leaving this as is. The people who care aren’t really on the fence, an the people freaking out about it just look like, well, freaks.
Sure.
“The people who care aren’t really on the fence, an the people freaking out about it just look like, well, freaks.”
– This sentence has words in it, and is grammatically correct. However it makes no cognitive sense. Would you care to elaborate?
dicentra, do you know, that some historians think that when Stalin was in tsarist jail, he was turned to work with Okhranka(secret service before the revolution) and that his subsequent murderous ways were exclusively to discredit communism( some conspiracy theorists nut cases still think that).
– Dan, could you fix afalls link, it blew up the page formatting again – thanks.
Sashal, did you know I don’t really give a rat’s ass?
BBH:
I think I get it: the unresolved birth certificate issue doesn’t bother the faithful, and the people it does bother weren’t going to vote for him anyway.
Sash:
So… following that logic, Obama has been hired by the Neocon Cabalâ„¢ to discredit Leftism? He’s gonna… lessee… send all his political opponents to Gitmo and plunge the country into an economic abyss that only… wait for it… Mitt Romney can solve!
WooHoo! I’m ‘a votin’ for Baracky now, by golly!
#35
Comment by SevenEleventy on 8/6 @ 2:09 pm #
Troop withdrawal doesn’t take tactical genius.
1st Marine Division,Chosin Resevior, Korea. Google it.
I’m thinkin’ mebbe Barak has been gaming the system fer his career. ya can write anything you want on a blamk sheet a paper.
“Would you care to elaborate?”
I didn’t notice a typo in there. People who care bout this birth certificate nonsense aren’t really on the fence — they’re not going to vote for Obama. And the people who are freaking out about it just look like freaks. So its a win to just leave this issue as is.
“- Dan, could you fix afalls link, it blew up the page formatting again – thanks.”
Sorry. It was fine on mine. Guess I have a large monitor.
While I think Obama is nothing but dangerous for the country it is a little unwise to point to his missing 44% of the votes this congressional session when McCain has a higher percentage of missed votes. Why call attention to something that can come back and bite you in the butt?
Rob, are you gone, coo-coo ? I mean, you are starting to worry me.
Now you are trying to impersonate dicentra and quite poorly
So, I just called the editorial office of the Harvard Law Review and it turns out there’s no way of verifying which student wrote what for the Harvard Law Review because they are all unsigned, and the identities of the authors are not given out.
Since when?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Law_Review#Significant_Harvard_Law_Review_articles
Yeah…I don’t think there’s all that much to this.
The guy has little track record for anything, mainly ‘cuz he gets into whatever in order to find his next gig. Like every 3 years or so, he moves on.
But when you say, “no acomplishments as community organizer” and whatnot – no.
Look, the information IS out there, it just isn’t being written about in the MSM nationwide. A lot of the stuff is in the Chicago press, but it gets no further than that.
One of the reasons I hang out on the nets is b/c of that – b/c blogs tend to report things you don’t find in Newsweak, etc. but this post is more emblematic of rumor-mongering than something useful or informative. Just sayin’
“Since when?”
Notice how I wrote “students.” That’s known as a qualifier. Try to keep up!
“Since when?”
That was in reference to the unsigned student notes. That list you link to is not to unsigned student notes. Different types of things that get published in there.
So, Barrett and afall should be able to point us to one thing with Baracky’s name attached to it. Some effort at scholarship. Some mind-blowing writing. Anything.
“So, Barrett and afall should be able to point us to one thing with Baracky’s name attached to it. Some effort at scholarship. Some mind-blowing writing. Anything.”
I don’t know of any scholarship he published. I think he edited. Like I said above, his editing work lead to him getting a teaching gig.
“and Barrett blew up at me for not thinking that his evidence settled the issue regarding Baracky’s history of non-publication at The Harvard Law Review, because I’m going to track him down and discredit him with Google or dismiss him out of hand.”
lol wut?
“I didn’t notice a typo in there. People who care bout this birth certificate nonsense aren’t really on the fence  they’re not going to vote for Obama. And the people who are freaking out about it just look like freaks. So its a win to just leave this issue as is.”
– Which pointedly leaves out the really pertinent part of it that “People who have their noses permanently implanted in O!’s ass wouldn’t care if he was from mars”.
– Which is what I thought, but I wanted to see if you’d evade the real issue twice in a row.
“Sorry. It was fine on mine. Guess I have a large monitor.”
– Which imitates a real sentence again, if only browser page formatting had a thing to do with the size of your monitor. As it stands, thats like blaming the size of your house front door on your cats tendency to get worms.
– Let Me guess. You loved the “tire inflation” idea. (I’ll leave out any snark concerning the size of your brain.)
&c.
I won’t get all here’s-why-I’m-a-better-expert-in-this-particular-thing about this, but — it’s not. At all.
I find the stuff insufferable because the “genius” it shows is for mimicry of other insufferable things. When you come across an Obama passage that makes you think something like “Maya Angelou could have written this,” the next step isn’t “so maybe she did.” He, emotively at least, hasn’t experienced what he’s describing except through reading, so his recountings read like (a — tipoff — longer-winded, more “poetic” version of) what he’s read.
There’s no mystery. He, like almost everybody, writes just like he is. There are only a handful of people who could mimic that without winking, and they wouldn’t. He’s likely to have been helped, sure. Most memoirists are. But the shit’s his. And it’s shit — in exactly the same way he is.
Maybe I misunderstood this?
Here is an issue with names and stuff. I think the confusion is that they don’t have names on the pieces when the review them for publication… cause it’s anonymous. QED Baracky is weird and defective and also I think he might be a sleeper agent. This is worrisome.
psycho – #112 was wonderful. Thanks.
If Baracky wrote any of that, happy, I suspect he would have taken credit for it by now. Kind of like how he stopped the oceans from rising.
Comment by Barrett Brown on 8/6 @ 2:54 pm #
No, garrett, nobody here takes you seriously.
kthxbye
He’s a freaky dude, JD. Not like the other reindeer at all, this one.
#58
Operation Dynamo.
Most of the listed documents are pointless, in my opinion. I am not concerned with academic grades, I am not concerned with birth certificates – Sen. Obama was born to a US citizen on US soil, he is a natural American – the Selective Service card is irrelevant.*
The law review thing is curious, but if he was permitted to be on review and be an editor without writing, I don’t see the problem. That is what Harvard permitted, see them for an explanation, not the former student. I was in law school (though not law review or moot court), and if he could avoid spending time on that exerise and concentrate on his classes he was wise to do so; many law students would have taken that option if permitted.
What the adult did after leaving school is more important to me.
*My little brother enlisted, and in his first term a fellow soldier ran into a spot of trouble with Selective Service because he did not sign up – he thought that since he had enlisted it wasn’t relevant. It had to be pointed out that even if he did his active term and completed the inactive ready reserve, he could still be young enough to be called up by Selective Service. The issue was resolved. The Selective Service requirement followed him to Germany.
“Maybe I misunderstood this?”
I was referring to several other people. I just got your last e-mail so I guess we’ve cleared this up.
It seems I may have misunderstood Barrett, though I’m not sure what to make of the comment. In the meantime, I really would like to collaborate with him on this conference call idea, so I’d rather you not be so dismissive. In general, I would say that he makes the effort to be substantive. That’s pretty much all I ask for.
With respect to voting patterns and votes missed while campaigning – again, that is not important except to ask which votes were missed (the subject matter of the votes).
Better is what is the voting record, on what, when that person is not campaigning. That gives a better idea on the candidate.
I don’t give two shits what his grades were Mikey. I would like to know what courses he took however.
Note:
I did get invited to compete for law review. I got the packet and read it and the cases. I had also promised my employer (I was assistant night supervisor at Camp Dearborn) that I would be there through a certain date. I was sitting at an old desk in the furnace room of the camp office and I realized that I had to do one thing or another – I had to stop working to complete the law review paper or I had to continue working and skip the paper. I put off the decision until one night. As I was driving about doing my job I decided that law review would help me in the future. But I also needed to work, and I gave my word I would be there at the camp. It was a hard decision, but I kept to my word and law review went over the side.
Things happen; and I don’t regret the decision.
Sdferr, I don’t really care what courses he took. He obviously graduated, which meant he took the required courses for his major and selected his electives out of the list he was given. And selecting electives may be based on interest, but in my case they were selected out of what didn’t conflict with the scheduled time of required courses, and which electives met at what time.
I worked very hard to choose my courses so that Friday was clear. The course content was irrelevant – keeping Friday clear meant that Thursday night was the new Friday night. That was the decision of a college student in his late teens – early twenties; and it certainly does not reflect on the forty-two year old adult.
In my opinion.
“I just called the editorial office of the Harvard Law Review and it turns out there’s no way of verifying which student wrote what for the Harvard Law Review because they are all unsigned, and the identities of the authors are not given out.”
BB, read that over. Don’t lecture others about proper application of qualifiers.
#125 SarahW:
Of course that depends on the rules that were in place when Sen. Obama was at Harvard.
Otherwise I stand by my comment that if he was able to be on review and not write because of the rules, then he was within his rights to do what the rules of the Review allowed and concentrate on what duties he was assigned and his classes. No more, no less.
You are a stitch, Mikey.
Let’s see, so Obama:
Was editor of the Law Review, but didn’t write anything.
Was a “professor” (actually, a lecturer) at UChicago, but didn’t publish anything while he was there, either (other than two, count ’em, two autobiographies).
Was a state legislator, but didn’t sponsor any significant legislation, or even vote for it (instead choosing to vote “present” on many occasions).
Was a US senator but, again, his record consists of nothing but puffery. Chronic absenteeism and/or not voting(look at all those “NV” entries). Doesn’t show up for his committee hearings.
Barrett is the artisanal cheese of our lefty commentariat really. I don’t say that about just anybody.
oh. Lookit. Darleen also has thoughts on cheese today.
I’ve read (George Will?) that in major league baseball, a player can’t be charged with an error if he doesn’t touch the ball, and that some players are said to have made this rule the foundation of their careers. Are we seeing a political version of this?
– Cheese? – thor or sashal must be lurking somewhere abouts.
That phone call deal sounds like good theatre, though. I hope that pans out.
Raclette all ’round.
Sdferr – at age twenty beer was more important that any hazy dreams of becoming an aspiring evil overlord with a dirigible of doom and an army of killer robots.
And at this date I would be more concerned about a candidate who didn’t put having fun in a fast-track in his undergrad years. When you are in undergrad is the time to be teh stoopid – all is forgiven
Example – I picked up cans and bottles. Concerned for the enivronment? Heck No! Those were ten cents each, and each one helped subsidize another case of Goebel!*
*Champagne of the Working Class – cheap, but effective.
pronounced “zho-Bell” of course.
I don’t know about you guys, but I know all I need to know about Obama.
I went to a college with no electives (read zero), at least in the ordinary sense of the term. It was likely one of the hardest drinking places in the higher ed. universe too. None of that matters to me. I still want a handle on his choices. The more information the better. What’s he got in his head? Course lists can tell me something. Omissions from those lists can tell me something else.
You’re still a stitch though, keep ’em coming.
Oh, and where do you cook up this stuff? “…hazy dreams of becoming an aspiring evil overlord with a dirigible of doom and an army of killer robots. …”
Watch out for fumes.
Like ‘tar-Zhay’, alp.
Sarcasm and irony did not begin in the 1990’s as some would like to think.
As Charlie C******r has said “I was a transportation relocation specialist.”
“What is that, Charlie?”
“I drove a car hauler.”
(These old guys and gals in the USCG Aux are pretty good story-tellers – I mean, factual situation embellishers – Bull S*** Artists would be crude.)
#136 Sdferr – I went to Michigan State after two years at community college. I was given a list at MSU of the required courses for my major and it had a list of elective courses accepted for that major. Everything had to add up to the required credit hours, so once the required were done it was pick and choose amongst the electives.
How I chose…
Yes, Ric:
Castle Wulfenbach.
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20030630
I think Klaus is very misunderstood. Othar would disagree.
Did Barack “Not From Central Casting” Obama write an auto-biographical book covering nearly the whole run of his life from child to man?
Why yes, he did.
Did he choose what to include in the book and what not to include?
Why yes, he did.
Did Janey Scott write an article for the NYTimes, entitled “Obama’s Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say�
Why yes, she did.
Did she write in that article “…Senator Obama, an Illinois Democrat now seeking the presidency, suggests in his book that his years in New York were a pivotal period: He ran three miles a day, buckled down to work and “stopped getting high,†which he says he had started doing in high school. Yet he declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years. …â€Â
Yes, so she wrote.
Why is Barack “Not From Central Casting” Obama reluctant to talk with this reporter from a newspaper quite favorable to his election to President?
I can’t say.
As an aside I had to give my goals for the year at work. Three of them. “World domination by means of a dirigible of doom and army of killer robots (clanks) was voted down.
I am still despondent about that.
Fools! I shall get my revenge and destroy you all! (ask me how!)
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070829
#142 – I can’t say either, but I can speculate. And leaving speculation open is never a good thing in a media environment, just as skepticism is cutting in.
Admit teh stoopid and defuse it. (Of course, when I did that with dad I did it at breakfast before his day was already ruined.)
#138
How I chose…
How I chose was by what looked interesting and most important didn’t involve traipsing from the far southwest campus where I lived to the east side and then back. Twenty minutes between classes is too short for long distance especially in winter.
Mikey, I wouldn’t say Klaus is misunderstood, precisely. I do think him underappreciated.
This is where I decided I was going to like Klaus (and Gil) — last panel: “Probably us.” “Yes.”
Am I the only one who was a bit disappointed when they went to color? The monochrome ones were more detailed, and more fun. “No Honking!”
Regards,
Ric
Barack Obama was elected President of Harvard Law Review. Irrefutable, never to be discounted or taken away – the prize is his forevermore.
He is a winner.
You’re no Obama nor ever will be. You ain’t got the IQ and ambition for his line of work.
Courage! It couldn’t come at a worse time!
That’s nice, thor.
My favorite thing about O! is that he is unraveling faster than a sweater in the “farmer brown” cartoons when ther dog takes off with a loose end of yarn.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if Hilaary! gets the nomination at the convention. The Slut family has been way too quiet, which leads me to believe that they have a nuke to drop on the O!, and are just biding their time.
Stay tuned. You don’t get rid of the Clintons that easily…
Courage! It couldn’t come at a worse time!
Don’t tell me you’re a Tragically Hip fan, Thor.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if Hilaary! gets the nomination at the convention. The Slut family has been way too quiet, which leads me to believe that they have a nuke to drop on the O!, and are just biding their time.
Heh.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/06/hillary-hey-how-about-we-place-my-name-in-nomination/
maybe Obama’s got a drunk driving citation somewhere???
oh, that didn’t stop someone getting elected. Just what did Bush do in college anyway?
“if only browser page formatting had a thing to do with the size of your monitor. ”
Maybe its my browser. Not my monitor. Who knows. It did look fine.
“You loved the “tire inflation†idea.”
I didn’t quite ‘love’ it. I’m with NASCAR on this one. I liked the response to the tire inflation idea more than the tire inflation idea itself.
“Yet he declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years. …—
Hookers and blow is my guess.
So, douchebag dave, did Bush try to hide any of that, or did he admit that was the life he led and that he learned better?
You can answer that or you can fuck off, I don’t care either way.
Ric – I’d agree with underappreciated as well as misunderstood. He didn’t want all of that because it kept him from doing what he wanted to do. Unfortunately, someone had to do it, and that someone turned out to be him.
bic,
True enough. On the other hand, lots of people accused Bush of snorting coke, and thought that that ought ot finish him. Obama admits to having snorted it–and his lifestyle choices in NYC may have something to do with his reluctance to talk about that period in his life–and it’s okay.
Personally, I think it’s okay, but it’s an interesting case in point.
maybe Obama’s got a drunk driving citation somewhere???
oh, that didn’t stop someone getting elected. Just what did Bush do in college anyway?
The point about all of this, for me at least, isn’t whether O!! had youthfull indiscretions with drugs, etc. I don’t think such things necessarily disqualify someone from running for office – depending on how much time has past and how much evidence that the person actually learned from their mistakes and changed their behavior.
Nor is it whether O! had good or bad grades, etc. (although I am interested in his college and law school grades). I don’t think grades qualify or disqualify one for Pres. Indeed, Bush actually had better grades than Kerry at Yale, yet we were constantly told Kerry was/is smarter. I’ve known plenty of people who got straight A’s who I would not consider “wise” or “intelligent” and I’ve known people who got C’s who are great leaders and who I consider “wise” or “intelligent”. I know people who did not go to college who are very smart.
No, what interests me is that:
a) if a republican refused to release this type of information in full the press and the left would be crying bloody murder and insinuating all kinds of nasty reasons for the non-release; and
b) the fact that all of the things that the left has been screaming about Bush for years (unqualified, drug user, etc), are all explicitly evident in O! and now the left has no issue with these things. Indeed, calls people racist who even bring these things up.
I find it funny that the left so clearly has no standard that they will stick to longer than the next poll (much like their candidate). Wasn’t it just 4 years ago that you on the left were sermonizing us that the only person qualified to be president during a war was someone who had actually served in combat? And that was a contest between Kerry – 2 months in Vietnam – and Bush – tour in the National Guard – so both had some military experience. Here, we have a combat veteran and career military man against someone who never served and the left’s tune has changed dramatically.
I guess I’m ultimately confused about what the left’s alleged principals are? I certainly can’t gleem them from O!’s ever chaning policy positions. And, I can’t get them from leftist commentators at websites whose arguments change with the wind.
comment above “past” should be “passed” and any other typos you see should be what is correct and not what they are.
I guess I’m ultimately confused about what the left’s alleged principals are?
Thats an easy one:
1. By any means necessary,
and
2. The end justifies the means.
0! is a blank slate AND empty suit? That can’t be easy to pull off. How the hell did dude get this far?
3. We don’t have any principles (note the spelling, GB), alleged or otherwise.
4. And they had really good intentions when they screwed things up.
5. Shut up. We’re smarter than you.
6. “I’m trying to save the Earth. I’m trying to save the Earth.”
I gotta call shennanigans on that one… between his mining concession, his slumlord tendencies and his new 100′ houseboat, all Al Gore is in it for the money.
That was Pelosi, but point taken. Funny how the left is always screeching about the “rich” but have no problem with Saint Al enriching himself off gullible greenies.
kelly – the worthless rich is anyone not you and yours; you have the best intentions. And you need a place to relax after thwarting the worthless rich, don’t you?