“From here on out, we’re glad red-state rubes live in areas where guns are more powerful and more plentiful, cars are larger and faster, and people are fatter and slower and dumber,†The Stranger proclaimed. Given the editors’ uninhibited sense of superiority, they felt confident that in the emerging Darwinian struggle, the suburban and exurban Neanderthals would be forced to give way to the clear superiority of the urban Cro-Magnons.*
And yet the redneck people manage not to shoot each other at a much better rate than those enlightened city folk like in Chicago and LA and DC. I’d wanna have a look at the fat, slow dumb ratio too.
And yet, people would still prefer the government take over their lives. Face it, people. If you’re depending on some sort of assisted living facility or some such in your dotage, this is pretty much the care you’ll get, too.
Holy shit, Jeff! That’s fucking horrible. And in the 6th largest city in America. With “government oversight” all over it. That poor kid. Everyone mentioned in that story should be shot.
Take a mechanical view, dicentra. Run things through the sorter and they all end up where they belong. Unless they fall off the track and get caught in the gears, which I think would be OK too.
Minister Jack X Klompus Muhammad el Shabazz ibn Kareem Abdul says:
Sadly, that’s Philly. The Department of Human Services has a $600 million budget and spends more tax money, mostly the oppressive city wage tax, than any other department in the city government. From ’01 to ’06, 52 children under DHS care died from abuse, neglect, and/or results of squalid, unhealthy living conditions. The public services in that city are putrid, stinking holes of corruption, graft, and cronyism. Atlas shrugged in Philly decades ago. The city’s voter rolls are around 89% Democrat.
Minister Jack X Klompus Muhammad el Shabazz ibn Kareem Abdul says:
4. If you want to experience the true meaning of “fat, dumb, and slow” go hang out in some of Philly’s neighborhoods. Aside from a fun downtown, great history, and some excellent universities, Philadelphia’s neighborhoods are full of ignorant dullards and the city is a seething cauldron of crime and ugly racial tension. Glad to be gone.
and just where do u suppose that sad family pegs on the bellcurve?
wouldn’t it be sweet if we cud, like, FIX CP ‘steada just CARING for the bedridden?
yah, well, we might hafta use summa those 400,000 snowflake embryos GW is soooooooo protective of, lol.
Jack, you just described Cuyahoga County (cleveland) to a T. Over 200 FBI and IRS agents descended upon County offices and two county official’s homes (one county commissioner and the county auditor) grabbing records galore. This county has been run by democrats for decades. Even the population (mostly democrat) complains about the corruption and graf, but what do you think is the reaction by some in county government? This was a political move to make the dems look bad before the presidential election. I laugh and point out that nobody gives a fuck, whether it’s flying or not, about our shithole and face the truth that these assholes have been caught. The FBI doesn’t conduct a raid that big unless it has something. The chickens have come home to roost indeed.
As for the heart wrenching story of that poor girl? Disgusting. I work with social workers and although they (at least the ones I work with) would never wish harm on anyone, they are some of the most cynical and depressing people on earth. But they live on the government tit, and since they are part of government, it can’t be wrong. Cases, meaning people, slip through the cracks all the time. And resources, meaning money, means nothing to them because they have no concept of earning. They just can take. The citizens suffer in the end because government sucks up too many resources.
You still need to have a little human decency in the mix. You can’t just slather stem cells over everything and make it all better. This story I thought was more about the mom and the feckless government of Philadelphia than the girl.
The Department of Human Services received at least five reports of Danieal being mistreated between 2003 and 2005. All described a “helpless child sitting unattended, unkempt and unwashed, in a small stroller in her own urine and feces,” her screams ignored by her mother, the grand jury report said. The stroller, which served as a wheelchair, apparently never left the house.
Agency employee Dana Poindexter, assigned to investigate, also ignored Danieal, authorities say. Already having been suspended after a 3-week-old baby died on his watch in 2002, Poindexter continued his “slovenly, neglectful and dangerously reckless work habits” after being assigned the Kelly case, the grand jury said. He did not file a single report, authorities said.
Soon government employees like Mr. Poindexter will be in charge of all of our healthcare. Because the private sector just isn’t good enough.
yah, well, we might hafta use summa those 400,000 snowflake embryos GW is soooooooo protective of, lol.
You know the “snowflakes” are actual children, don’t you, dipshit? I basically agree with you on this issue, but when you talk about it, I feel dirty. I’m sure it’s you.
Incidents like this happen here in LA too. I’m guessing that civil service rules will prevent Mr. Poindexter from being fired, even after two children have died under his care. After about seven hearings and appeals they might slap with a warning note in his personnel file.
Pablo: “Holy shit, Jeff! That’s fucking horrible. And in the 6th largest city in America. With “government oversight†all over it. That poor kid. Everyone mentioned in that story should be shot.”
No, Pablo… they shouldn’t.
Not to get all biblical (not to mention Gilbert and Sullivan), the punishment should fit the crime. A quick death does *not* fit this crime.
A life sentence, preferably in GP, approaches fitting this crime.
Dicentra: “The latter, I’m afraid. As for God sorting them out, “sort†implies that they’d all go to a different place”
The original quote (from the Bishop of something-or-other, during one of the Crusades) was more to the effect of “Kill them all, God will know his own,” putting it more on a level of tossing the whole mess on ‘is desk and letting him pick out the good parts.
MJXKMeSiKA: “If you want to experience the true meaning of “fat, dumb, and slow†go hang out in some of Philly’s neighborhoods. Aside from a fun downtown, great history, and some excellent universities, Philadelphia’s neighborhoods are full of ignorant dullards and the city is a seething cauldron of crime and ugly racial tension.”
Have things in Fishtown sorted since the murder? And has Tacony managed to slide off into the third circle of hell yet?
we might hafta use summa those 400,000 snowflake embryos GW is soooooooo protective of
The only thing embryonic stem cells seem to produce under our gentle tutelage is tumors, honey. Adult stem cells are much better behaved and don’t have the stink of moral compromise surrounding them.
Yeah, it would be nice to fix CP, but until that’s possible, we could at least take care of the poor intelligent souls, and rise up in righteous anger against their tormentors/murderers.
The original quote (from the Bishop of something-or-other, during one of the Crusades) was more to the effect of “Kill them all, God will know his own,’
Heh. I just read about the origin of that phrase in The Politically Incorrect Guide to Western Civilization (good stuff, BTW).
Neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet, quoth Arnaud Amaury, the Abbot of Citeaux, the Papal Legate.
Pablo: “You know the “snowflakes†are actual children, don’t you, dipshit?”
Okay, Pablo, please wake up and smell the coffee.
Nishi doesn’t have the wits of a gopher. She doesn’t understand and, in not understanding, doesn’t care. Just another empty shell, going through the motions. Apes her betters, puts on airs and thinks that her comic-book Utopian fantasies are some sort of probability. Think of her as that idiot aunt the family down the way kept up in the attic, what burbled at all the wrong moments.
Aldo: “’m guessing that civil service rules will prevent Mr. Poindexter from being fired, even after two children have died under his care. After about seven hearings and appeals they might slap with a warning note in his personnel file.”
could at least take care of the poor intelligent souls,
sociopaths like nishi don’t believe Others have souls. There is just predator and prey, and the only thing they find exciting is the sight of the boot on the neck.
In IIRC “The Number of the Beast” by Heinlein there is an alternate reality where the punishment for a crime is to have the exactly same thing happen to the convicted that they did to the victim. That sounds about right to me in this case.
Darleen: “sociopaths like nishi don’t believe Others have souls. There is just predator and prey, and the only thing they find exciting is the sight of the boot on the neck.”
Ironic, given how low on the practical skills food-chain Nishi is. Over-specialization at the expense of adaptability and intelligence is not a recipe for success.
Yes. I remember the scene where an accident occurred where one person lost a leg… the ‘court’ assembled on the spot, examined the evidence, produced a verdict of “guilty”, then medical techs came in and removed the guilty party’s leg.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
It’s been quite a few years but the way I recall it a drunk had done a hit and run and the girl had had her leg run over and then waited for (30 min?) for an ambulance to come. The driver was then strapped to the road and his leg run over and then they waited the same time before medical assistance was done.
I could see all the perps in the starvation case being slowly starved to death while strapped in a stroller, their skin covered with feces and maggot ridden bed sores. Then God can apply his own sorting and send them to warm climes. But that is just my reaction to things like this. City of brotherly love and all.
32. Tacony is a pit. Most of the lower Northeast thanks in good part to Section 8 has gone down the tubes. My sister and her kids still live in Wissinoming which is barely hanging on. Every conversation with her starts with “how’s the neighborhood holding up?” My nephew had a gun shoved in his mouth and was robbed walking through Wiss Park, roving packs of youths vandalize and mug at will. Oxford Circle and Castor Gardens have gone full on Section 8.
Fishtown has actually experienced a renaissance and has become one of the hip neighborhoods. Nearby Kensington where both of my parents grew up has been a lost cause for years. I used to ride the El train to my grandmother’s house as a kid but in her last years she was virtually a prisoner in her own home in a neighborhood that is completely and hopelessly blighted by crime and a never ending heroin epidemic.
Philly will always be home, and yes, there are a lot of things about it that I love, but its strikes against it are so overwhelming. A lot of people say “oh it’s becoming Detroit” but I’ve thought that DC is a more apt comparison: lots of old money in posh downtown neighborhoods and along the Main Line and in Chestnut Hill, surrounded by dysfunctional, dirty, crime-ridden pits, and run by an entrenched, corrupt, Democratic machine beholden to thuggish unions, lousy inept public schools that are churning out unskilled illiterates (and those are the ones who graduate), and a growing, angry, frustrated underclass that festers in a culture of crime, drugs, and irresponsible despair. Long term trends do not bode well for the future of America’s birthplace unless radical change and reform were to happen.
The new mayor, Michael Nutter, is an intelligent, well-educated, decent man with his heart in the right place but the deck is so stacked against him that I cannot foresee him implementing any of the much needed reforms that would turn the city around for the better.
sadly, a little libertarian policy didn’t help this girl:
“The Kellys finally were assigned help from a private agency in 2005. Employee Julius Murray was required to visit the family twice a week, but authorities believe he may have come to the house only once  to have Andrea Kelly sign predated forms attesting to future visits. ”
yeah, woop t do, let’s privatize Social Security while we’re at it.
another advertisement for why we need govt. financed abortions for women in need.
Wow: It’s been quite a few years but the way I recall it a drunk had done a hit and run and the girl had had her leg run over and then waited for (30 min?) for an ambulance to come. The driver was then strapped to the road and his leg run over and then they waited the same time before medical assistance was done.
Great, they shoulda put Robert Novak on the ground and ran their bicycles over him until he screamed, “brain tumor”.
Women tend to get away with killing their children. Watch. She will garner sympathy because “only a deeply troubled woman would do this,” and we will be told she needs our help not the death penalty. I hope it doesn’t happen, but I bet it will.
Of course, if a man did this, we’d execute him. We should execute this heartless bitch, too.
#44
Where was this moral outrage while that little girl lay dying? politics didn’t murder this poor child, her parents did. In law its called ” responsible human agency” The parents were primary care givers. The social services are after the fact. Though , in my opinion, should be held for capital murder.
Perhaps,nishi, you should start out with a plant, a nice fern. if you can keep that alive for a year, then get a cat. if you can keep it alive for two years then get a dog. Keep the dog alive for 2 more years and then maybe you can have a relationship, but under no circumstances should you reproduce.
no cudlips, those snowflakes are undifferentiated cell clumps, not “children”.
i continue to be astonished by the profound and seamless hypocrisy demonstrated here.
should that child have been taken from her parents and institutionalized?
not very libertarian, that.
do children belong to their parents? darleen sure seems to think so.
tell me, whats the difference between farming little girls to be sub-sapient breederbots or lettin a handicapped child die from neglect?
oh, yah, the little girls were clean, lol.
the parents own the children dont they?
perhaps schoolvouchers could have helped her, lol.
You tell me, nishfong, what makes you think a government too corrupt and incompetent to observe and correctly document a child’s health and welfare is going to be capable of the cellular research you desire?
In 2007, Doctor Ken Yuasa testified to the Japan Times that “I was afraid during my first vivisection, but the second time around, it was much easier. By the third time, I was willing to do it.”
By the fourth time, he wore a wicked cynical grin.
And yet another thread is hijacked to massage nishi’s wet dreams of a master race, eugenics, the bell curve, cell clumps, fascist libertarianism and lack of humanity.
Wash, rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, etc.
Still to come: The inevitable slur against god bothering xtian dumasses.
It is at times like this, I must cling to my beloved Tool:
Monkey killing monkey killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground
Silly monkeys give them thumbs
They make a club and beat their brother down
How they survive so misguided is a mystery
Repugnant is a creature who would squander
The ability to live tonight in heaven
Conscious of his fleeting time here
Cut it right all, right in two
This story isn’t ABOUT stem cells, because most likely no amount of future treatments are gonna help those inflicted now. This story is about a piece of human garbage. Yes, parents “own” their children up until the point that the kids is in peril of dying of neglect. That she had “caseworkers” is indicative that people were aware this child need more attention than the parents could give. The UTTER failure of the state is further proof that the government, and most of it’s workers, SUCK at micromanaging the health and welfare of it’s citizens.
oh, carin, nishi is all about the future master race, as determined by her and her ilk. Those who suffer today are bell curve irrelevant and can just eat sh*t and die.
I suppose in Nishi’s world, treatment of the infirm (or those who haven’t passed into the master race) should all just be clubbed to death. Since they’re prolly all stupid cudlips.
Nishi’s building straw men again, I see. Wow, what a sub standard human being. I love Darwinism. I think it explains a lot. I’m stronger than nishi. I’m capable of ripping her to shreds without much thought. With survival of the fittest, I’d be feasting on her left leg by about now. Why don’t I do that? For two reasons. One is because my fucked up Judeo-Christian ethics prohibit me from doing such a thing. It isn’t right. It’s not what Christ would want me to do. The second is that our man made law, which we all agree on, stipulates that it is against our law to rip somebody to shreds just because they are, as I see it, an asshole.
This is kind of how it is with a situation like this, nishi. Sure, the libertarian, more like anarchist, view sounds like, we should never have a public agency take a kid away from its parents. Sure sounds about right. But, that is kind of sick and depraved, especially in this instance, where as carin already mentioned, the parents were killing this kid. It’s human to say that we need some intervention in a case like this. CFS agencies are supposed to be that intervention. The problem is that libertarianism had been dealt a near death blow by projects such as the great society, which under cut the foundation of family. Far too many of these families have substituted family with government. You have no idea about how this half (you call them the two digits) live as I gather you’ve had a silver spoon (or at least bronze) in your mouth your very short life. Daddy being a doctor and all. So you commenting on this is kind of like sashal commenting on, well anything not having to do with borscht.
Doesn’t this happen in Philly once or twice a year?
My older siblings live in Fishtown, as kids we lived in Olney which is now overrun by Asian gangs. My younger siblings bailed for the old country EU, parents for the Main line and I, I took the road less traveled and after a couple of years doing section 8 housing in Camden, moved to Kentucky in search of class, good dentistry and modern conveniences.
And leash laws and people who curb their dogs…I found that in Indiana.
Can’t really believe how godawful, brutal and inhuman this story is. But, since I work human services [not CP] too, I’ve seen and heard alot of horrible stories up close.
Whoever said above that the worker will prob’ly only get a reprimand is prob’ly right.
Side note: I get the one-off comment sometimes where people don’t get why I, a rightwinger, would work in human services, mostly b/c its a lefty hellhole and there’s no money in it. You know what? Human services would, I think, benefit from having many more of us. The few of us that are there never encourage teh crazies, never rubber stamp the crap. But the higher ups frequently just let slide what we report. But I’m out of that next month, so whatever.
Folks build straw men to intentionally derail an argument, nishfong is just confused. I think most of the frustration with her comes from believing she is doing this shit intentionally when he fact she is really that confused. I came to that conclusion when she argued vehemently with me that Bobby Jindal was a eugenist because he was chemically castrating pedophiles to keep them from reproducing.
BTW? I’ll almost guarantee you that the putz social worker’s boss told him to ‘educate’ the mother rather than to initiate proceedings to take the child. And the putz just did stuff like say something off-hand, like ‘change her diaper’ and document that he ‘educated her about better care’.
They likely didn’t want to take the kid because 1. racial identity may have lead to protests of racism, 2. the kid was special needs and they had no place they could put her. At the time they first knew, anyway, but they prob’ly never checked again after that.
I’ll bet you a dollar to a doughnut that if we researched that “private agency” we would discover that it was founded by the brother-in-law of a city councilman for the sole purpose of being awarded this city contract, and that its primary functions are to provide sinecures for the councilman’s relatives and to launder funds to his campaign. The brother-in-law and other company officers (who are all related) make six-figure salaries even though most of the officers have never set foot in the company. The agencies other employees are basically full-time campaign workers.
Welcome to big city. If I’m right about this, the failure of this agency to provide social service work says as much about the free market as the failures of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (which are larger-scale versions of the same scam).
I didn’t know that “Ms. Cudlips” was actually “nishi”. Who would have thunk it? (sarcasm off now).
Reading that article turned my stomach. I cannot begin to imagine what it must have been like for that child. I have to go with Jeff G. on this. Shoot them all, and let God sort them out. (But give ’em their lead injections in the gut, so they will take a while to die. Just for the changiness and hopitude, you understand.)
idealogically there is EXACTLY the SAME reason to take this child from her parents as the TCPS took those children from their parents.
child abuse.
theonly thing that is different to u cudlips is that FLDS kids were clean.
/spit
idealogically there is EXACTLY the SAME reason to take this child from her parents as the TCPS took those children from their parents.
child abuse.
theonly thing that is different to u cudlips is that FLDS kids were clean.
I know these are concepts far too complicated for you to grasp, but keep studying:
probable cause
due process
rule of law.
Keep studying these and someday you will be able to hold a discussion with adults and not sound like a precocious three year old on a sugar rush.
per Minister Jack X Klompus Muhammad el Shabazz ibn Kareem Abdul on 8/2 @ 12:18 am #
32. Tacony is a pit. Most of the lower Northeast thanks in good part to Section 8 has gone down the tubes. My sister and her kids still live in Wissinoming which is barely hanging on. Every conversation with her starts with “how’s the neighborhood holding up?†My nephew had a gun shoved in his mouth and was robbed walking through Wiss Park, roving packs of youths vandalize and mug at will. Oxford Circle and Castor Gardens have gone full on Section 8.”
My grandmother lived there — prolly within a mile or so of the bridge — tough old woman. In retrospect, the place was horrible, even then. Philly wasn’t home, but it was the next closest thing.
idealogically there is EXACTLY the SAME reason to take this child from her parents as the TCPS took those children from their parents.
child abuse.
Right. Child abuse is rightly considered a crime. Allegations of horrific abuse like this should be immediately investigated by the police, not the Department of Human Services. In fact, we could probably eliminate the Department of Human Services without suffering any ill effects at all, and then we could use some of the savings to create special child abuse investigation units within the police department. Police detectives know how to promptly and competently investigate alleged crimes while respecting the due process rights of the accused. At least they have a better track record than social workers.
Nishi: “i continue to be astonished by the profound and seamless hypocrisy demonstrated here.”
Looking in the mirror again, Nishi?
Nishi: “should that child have been taken from her parents and institutionalized? not very libertarian, that.”
Better that than your vision of the future, toots. The parents should have been dealt with earlier, as should the fools from the city’s services who botched their duties.
Nishi: “do children belong to their parents? darleen sure seems to think so.”
They certainly do not belong to the state, in any of its myriad manifestations.
Nishi: “tell me, whats the difference between farming little girls to be sub-sapient breederbots or lettin a handicapped child die from neglect?”
You’re the only fool discussing farming children. And, little girl, if you can’t tell the difference between two, then you’re fit only to be taken out behind the chemical shed.
– We shouldn’t be too rough on nishi. Shes the victim of some sort of terminal medical/mental problem or repugnant physical disfigurement. Probably shes living in constant fear of following in her fathers footsteps.
– It shows in her asocial writings. Shes too vituperous and antagonistic toward any idea that even alludes to human “normal” values and feelings, because she feels shes not normal herself. Unavoidably doomed in the future.
– She dreams of building a “super race” where people like herself never suffer such life limiting conditions.
– Classic case of over-compensation.
– With any luck at all she’ll keep her problem(s) to herself, but then if PW tended to luck we would have never known about her and her “impediment” in the first place.
Delta Dawn, whats that flower you have on
Could it be a faded rose from days gone by
And did I hear you say, hes a’meetin you here today
To take you to his mansion in the sky
I try not to let myself think about this stuff happening to kids and pets. Besides the obvious, there is the helpless bewilderment.
Ahhh! Let me deal with these morons. It might make it easier to sleep.
The article refers to a “forge fest”. You wouldn’t dare have a bunch of employees sit around making up shit for the record unless you absolutely trusted them not to squeal. Which means it’s been done so often that nobody thinks anything of it.
Re: #83 “You wouldn’t dare have a bunch of employees sit around making up shit for the record unless you absolutely trusted them not to squeal.”
Which makes post #66 by Aldo,
“that its primary functions are to provide sinecures for the councilman’s relatives and to launder funds to his campaign. “
I would kill each of them by depriving them of food and water until they expired, preferably in a stifling, airless room, covered in their own feces and soaked with their own urine. Bedsores would be good, too, if they could survive long enough to get them without fluids or any nourishment.
Horrible. No need to be as cravenly immoral as the mother and father though, so a quick hanging should do. The social workers who lied about making the required visits need to be banned from public service for life and have to do time.
Darleen: “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein”
I can only manage about 15 or so out of the list… Guess I still have some work to do.
So hideous a story you expect to see sentences like this:
“None of the lawyers for any of the defendants had any immediate comment.”
What makes you think I want anything to do with them?
And yet the redneck people manage not to shoot each other at a much better rate than those enlightened city folk like in Chicago and LA and DC. I’d wanna have a look at the fat, slow dumb ratio too.
And yet, people would still prefer the government take over their lives. Face it, people. If you’re depending on some sort of assisted living facility or some such in your dotage, this is pretty much the care you’ll get, too.
It’s obvious that we are not spending enough on social services!
Thankfully, Obama will fix it so this never happens again.
“…while she was under the PROTECTION of the city’s human services agency…”
Kinda makes one think that word doesn’t mean what the writer thinks it means.
Holy shit, Jeff! That’s fucking horrible. And in the 6th largest city in America. With “government oversight” all over it. That poor kid. Everyone mentioned in that story should be shot.
That story, and that earlier Canadian bus-slaughter story. Bookends of the times, or business as usual amongst genus homo ?
Haven’t even discussed the guy who went hunting for teenage swimmers and bagged three, in the Menominee River near the MI-WI border.
Oh cheer up: the African – I ain’t saying it.
The O! will fix this you know?
We’re just overgrown-shit-for-brains apes after all. Monkeys and apes aren’t really all that nice.
Oh. I didn’t hear of that one Dan.
Here it is SarahW: http://tinyurl.com/5zy8ce
homo phobe.
Bookends of the times, or business as usual amongst genus homo?
The latter, I’m afraid. As for God sorting them out, “sort” implies that they’d all go to a different place.
His physiognomy suggests something is amiss inside.
Take a mechanical view, dicentra. Run things through the sorter and they all end up where they belong. Unless they fall off the track and get caught in the gears, which I think would be OK too.
Sadly, that’s Philly. The Department of Human Services has a $600 million budget and spends more tax money, mostly the oppressive city wage tax, than any other department in the city government. From ’01 to ’06, 52 children under DHS care died from abuse, neglect, and/or results of squalid, unhealthy living conditions. The public services in that city are putrid, stinking holes of corruption, graft, and cronyism. Atlas shrugged in Philly decades ago. The city’s voter rolls are around 89% Democrat.
4. If you want to experience the true meaning of “fat, dumb, and slow” go hang out in some of Philly’s neighborhoods. Aside from a fun downtown, great history, and some excellent universities, Philadelphia’s neighborhoods are full of ignorant dullards and the city is a seething cauldron of crime and ugly racial tension. Glad to be gone.
Ditto, Jack. Won’t go back.
After seeing that one show I’m not really inclined to put Baltimore on the list either.
and just where do u suppose that sad family pegs on the bellcurve?
wouldn’t it be sweet if we cud, like, FIX CP ‘steada just CARING for the bedridden?
yah, well, we might hafta use summa those 400,000 snowflake embryos GW is soooooooo protective of, lol.
fuckin cudlips
Jack, you just described Cuyahoga County (cleveland) to a T. Over 200 FBI and IRS agents descended upon County offices and two county official’s homes (one county commissioner and the county auditor) grabbing records galore. This county has been run by democrats for decades. Even the population (mostly democrat) complains about the corruption and graf, but what do you think is the reaction by some in county government? This was a political move to make the dems look bad before the presidential election. I laugh and point out that nobody gives a fuck, whether it’s flying or not, about our shithole and face the truth that these assholes have been caught. The FBI doesn’t conduct a raid that big unless it has something. The chickens have come home to roost indeed.
As for the heart wrenching story of that poor girl? Disgusting. I work with social workers and although they (at least the ones I work with) would never wish harm on anyone, they are some of the most cynical and depressing people on earth. But they live on the government tit, and since they are part of government, it can’t be wrong. Cases, meaning people, slip through the cracks all the time. And resources, meaning money, means nothing to them because they have no concept of earning. They just can take. The citizens suffer in the end because government sucks up too many resources.
You still need to have a little human decency in the mix. You can’t just slather stem cells over everything and make it all better. This story I thought was more about the mom and the feckless government of Philadelphia than the girl.
The Department of Human Services received at least five reports of Danieal being mistreated between 2003 and 2005. All described a “helpless child sitting unattended, unkempt and unwashed, in a small stroller in her own urine and feces,” her screams ignored by her mother, the grand jury report said. The stroller, which served as a wheelchair, apparently never left the house.
Agency employee Dana Poindexter, assigned to investigate, also ignored Danieal, authorities say. Already having been suspended after a 3-week-old baby died on his watch in 2002, Poindexter continued his “slovenly, neglectful and dangerously reckless work habits” after being assigned the Kelly case, the grand jury said. He did not file a single report, authorities said.
Soon government employees like Mr. Poindexter will be in charge of all of our healthcare. Because the private sector just isn’t good enough.
Jeff, as long as I’m doing no wrong I’m happy.
Aldo is right. This is so the future.
You know the “snowflakes” are actual children, don’t you, dipshit? I basically agree with you on this issue, but when you talk about it, I feel dirty. I’m sure it’s you.
Incidents like this happen here in LA too. I’m guessing that civil service rules will prevent Mr. Poindexter from being fired, even after two children have died under his care. After about seven hearings and appeals they might slap with a warning note in his personnel file.
Pablo: “Holy shit, Jeff! That’s fucking horrible. And in the 6th largest city in America. With “government oversight†all over it. That poor kid. Everyone mentioned in that story should be shot.”
No, Pablo… they shouldn’t.
Not to get all biblical (not to mention Gilbert and Sullivan), the punishment should fit the crime. A quick death does *not* fit this crime.
A life sentence, preferably in GP, approaches fitting this crime.
Dicentra: “The latter, I’m afraid. As for God sorting them out, “sort†implies that they’d all go to a different place”
The original quote (from the Bishop of something-or-other, during one of the Crusades) was more to the effect of “Kill them all, God will know his own,” putting it more on a level of tossing the whole mess on ‘is desk and letting him pick out the good parts.
MJXKMeSiKA: “If you want to experience the true meaning of “fat, dumb, and slow†go hang out in some of Philly’s neighborhoods. Aside from a fun downtown, great history, and some excellent universities, Philadelphia’s neighborhoods are full of ignorant dullards and the city is a seething cauldron of crime and ugly racial tension.”
Have things in Fishtown sorted since the murder? And has Tacony managed to slide off into the third circle of hell yet?
we might hafta use summa those 400,000 snowflake embryos GW is soooooooo protective of
The only thing embryonic stem cells seem to produce under our gentle tutelage is tumors, honey. Adult stem cells are much better behaved and don’t have the stink of moral compromise surrounding them.
Yeah, it would be nice to fix CP, but until that’s possible, we could at least take care of the poor intelligent souls, and rise up in righteous anger against their tormentors/murderers.
The original quote (from the Bishop of something-or-other, during one of the Crusades) was more to the effect of “Kill them all, God will know his own,’
Heh. I just read about the origin of that phrase in The Politically Incorrect Guide to Western Civilization (good stuff, BTW).
Neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet, quoth Arnaud Amaury, the Abbot of Citeaux, the Papal Legate.
Pablo: “You know the “snowflakes†are actual children, don’t you, dipshit?”
Okay, Pablo, please wake up and smell the coffee.
Nishi doesn’t have the wits of a gopher. She doesn’t understand and, in not understanding, doesn’t care. Just another empty shell, going through the motions. Apes her betters, puts on airs and thinks that her comic-book Utopian fantasies are some sort of probability. Think of her as that idiot aunt the family down the way kept up in the attic, what burbled at all the wrong moments.
Aldo: “’m guessing that civil service rules will prevent Mr. Poindexter from being fired, even after two children have died under his care. After about seven hearings and appeals they might slap with a warning note in his personnel file.”
The Peter-principle in action.
could at least take care of the poor intelligent souls,
sociopaths like nishi don’t believe Others have souls. There is just predator and prey, and the only thing they find exciting is the sight of the boot on the neck.
In IIRC “The Number of the Beast” by Heinlein there is an alternate reality where the punishment for a crime is to have the exactly same thing happen to the convicted that they did to the victim. That sounds about right to me in this case.
Darleen: “sociopaths like nishi don’t believe Others have souls. There is just predator and prey, and the only thing they find exciting is the sight of the boot on the neck.”
Ironic, given how low on the practical skills food-chain Nishi is. Over-specialization at the expense of adaptability and intelligence is not a recipe for success.
geoffb
Yes. I remember the scene where an accident occurred where one person lost a leg… the ‘court’ assembled on the spot, examined the evidence, produced a verdict of “guilty”, then medical techs came in and removed the guilty party’s leg.
Dread
It’s been quite a few years but the way I recall it a drunk had done a hit and run and the girl had had her leg run over and then waited for (30 min?) for an ambulance to come. The driver was then strapped to the road and his leg run over and then they waited the same time before medical assistance was done.
I could see all the perps in the starvation case being slowly starved to death while strapped in a stroller, their skin covered with feces and maggot ridden bed sores. Then God can apply his own sorting and send them to warm climes. But that is just my reaction to things like this. City of brotherly love and all.
Re: # 40,
Been trying all my life to be that. A good Heinlein quote that.
Nite all.
32. Tacony is a pit. Most of the lower Northeast thanks in good part to Section 8 has gone down the tubes. My sister and her kids still live in Wissinoming which is barely hanging on. Every conversation with her starts with “how’s the neighborhood holding up?” My nephew had a gun shoved in his mouth and was robbed walking through Wiss Park, roving packs of youths vandalize and mug at will. Oxford Circle and Castor Gardens have gone full on Section 8.
Fishtown has actually experienced a renaissance and has become one of the hip neighborhoods. Nearby Kensington where both of my parents grew up has been a lost cause for years. I used to ride the El train to my grandmother’s house as a kid but in her last years she was virtually a prisoner in her own home in a neighborhood that is completely and hopelessly blighted by crime and a never ending heroin epidemic.
Philly will always be home, and yes, there are a lot of things about it that I love, but its strikes against it are so overwhelming. A lot of people say “oh it’s becoming Detroit” but I’ve thought that DC is a more apt comparison: lots of old money in posh downtown neighborhoods and along the Main Line and in Chestnut Hill, surrounded by dysfunctional, dirty, crime-ridden pits, and run by an entrenched, corrupt, Democratic machine beholden to thuggish unions, lousy inept public schools that are churning out unskilled illiterates (and those are the ones who graduate), and a growing, angry, frustrated underclass that festers in a culture of crime, drugs, and irresponsible despair. Long term trends do not bode well for the future of America’s birthplace unless radical change and reform were to happen.
The new mayor, Michael Nutter, is an intelligent, well-educated, decent man with his heart in the right place but the deck is so stacked against him that I cannot foresee him implementing any of the much needed reforms that would turn the city around for the better.
sadly, a little libertarian policy didn’t help this girl:
“The Kellys finally were assigned help from a private agency in 2005. Employee Julius Murray was required to visit the family twice a week, but authorities believe he may have come to the house only once  to have Andrea Kelly sign predated forms attesting to future visits. ”
yeah, woop t do, let’s privatize Social Security while we’re at it.
another advertisement for why we need govt. financed abortions for women in need.
Wow: It’s been quite a few years but the way I recall it a drunk had done a hit and run and the girl had had her leg run over and then waited for (30 min?) for an ambulance to come. The driver was then strapped to the road and his leg run over and then they waited the same time before medical assistance was done.
Great, they shoulda put Robert Novak on the ground and ran their bicycles over him until he screamed, “brain tumor”.
Women tend to get away with killing their children. Watch. She will garner sympathy because “only a deeply troubled woman would do this,” and we will be told she needs our help not the death penalty. I hope it doesn’t happen, but I bet it will.
Of course, if a man did this, we’d execute him. We should execute this heartless bitch, too.
#44
Where was this moral outrage while that little girl lay dying? politics didn’t murder this poor child, her parents did. In law its called ” responsible human agency” The parents were primary care givers. The social services are after the fact. Though , in my opinion, should be held for capital murder.
Perhaps,nishi, you should start out with a plant, a nice fern. if you can keep that alive for a year, then get a cat. if you can keep it alive for two years then get a dog. Keep the dog alive for 2 more years and then maybe you can have a relationship, but under no circumstances should you reproduce.
no cudlips, those snowflakes are undifferentiated cell clumps, not “children”.
i continue to be astonished by the profound and seamless hypocrisy demonstrated here.
should that child have been taken from her parents and institutionalized?
not very libertarian, that.
do children belong to their parents? darleen sure seems to think so.
tell me, whats the difference between farming little girls to be sub-sapient breederbots or lettin a handicapped child die from neglect?
oh, yah, the little girls were clean, lol.
the parents own the children dont they?
perhaps schoolvouchers could have helped her, lol.
/wicked cynical grin
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
(that was directed at nishit, btw)
You tell me, nishfong, what makes you think a government too corrupt and incompetent to observe and correctly document a child’s health and welfare is going to be capable of the cellular research you desire?
By the fourth time, he wore a wicked cynical grin.
And yet another thread is hijacked to massage nishi’s wet dreams of a master race, eugenics, the bell curve, cell clumps, fascist libertarianism and lack of humanity.
Wash, rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, etc.
Still to come: The inevitable slur against god bothering xtian dumasses.
It is at times like this, I must cling to my beloved Tool:
Monkey killing monkey killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground
Silly monkeys give them thumbs
They make a club and beat their brother down
How they survive so misguided is a mystery
Repugnant is a creature who would squander
The ability to live tonight in heaven
Conscious of his fleeting time here
Cut it right all, right in two
This story isn’t ABOUT stem cells, because most likely no amount of future treatments are gonna help those inflicted now. This story is about a piece of human garbage. Yes, parents “own” their children up until the point that the kids is in peril of dying of neglect. That she had “caseworkers” is indicative that people were aware this child need more attention than the parents could give. The UTTER failure of the state is further proof that the government, and most of it’s workers, SUCK at micromanaging the health and welfare of it’s citizens.
oh, carin, nishi is all about the future master race, as determined by her and her ilk. Those who suffer today are bell curve irrelevant and can just eat sh*t and die.
I’m grateful that I could clear this up for you.
I suppose in Nishi’s world, treatment of the infirm (or those who haven’t passed into the master race) should all just be clubbed to death. Since they’re prolly all stupid cudlips.
Nishi could have found work in Nazi Germany, at least as far as dealing with the extermination of the infirm, sickly old and the mentally disabled.
For the future of the human race, you understand.
Nishi’s building straw men again, I see. Wow, what a sub standard human being. I love Darwinism. I think it explains a lot. I’m stronger than nishi. I’m capable of ripping her to shreds without much thought. With survival of the fittest, I’d be feasting on her left leg by about now. Why don’t I do that? For two reasons. One is because my fucked up Judeo-Christian ethics prohibit me from doing such a thing. It isn’t right. It’s not what Christ would want me to do. The second is that our man made law, which we all agree on, stipulates that it is against our law to rip somebody to shreds just because they are, as I see it, an asshole.
This is kind of how it is with a situation like this, nishi. Sure, the libertarian, more like anarchist, view sounds like, we should never have a public agency take a kid away from its parents. Sure sounds about right. But, that is kind of sick and depraved, especially in this instance, where as carin already mentioned, the parents were killing this kid. It’s human to say that we need some intervention in a case like this. CFS agencies are supposed to be that intervention. The problem is that libertarianism had been dealt a near death blow by projects such as the great society, which under cut the foundation of family. Far too many of these families have substituted family with government. You have no idea about how this half (you call them the two digits) live as I gather you’ve had a silver spoon (or at least bronze) in your mouth your very short life. Daddy being a doctor and all. So you commenting on this is kind of like sashal commenting on, well anything not having to do with borscht.
There aren’t going to be any infirm in nishiworld. It will be all healthy, beautiful, perfect children-everlasting.
And unicorns.
Doesn’t this happen in Philly once or twice a year?
My older siblings live in Fishtown, as kids we lived in Olney which is now overrun by Asian gangs. My younger siblings bailed for the
old countryEU, parents for the Main line and I, I took the road less traveled and after a couple of years doing section 8 housing in Camden, moved to Kentucky in search of class, good dentistry and modern conveniences.And leash laws and people who curb their dogs…I found that in Indiana.
Mighty, gene spliced, eugenically developed uber unicorns!!11eleventy1!1!
Darleen,
Looked it up this morning. You were right about the amputation. I’d forgotten that.
nishi has all the personality of this.
Can’t really believe how godawful, brutal and inhuman this story is. But, since I work human services [not CP] too, I’ve seen and heard alot of horrible stories up close.
Whoever said above that the worker will prob’ly only get a reprimand is prob’ly right.
Side note: I get the one-off comment sometimes where people don’t get why I, a rightwinger, would work in human services, mostly b/c its a lefty hellhole and there’s no money in it. You know what? Human services would, I think, benefit from having many more of us. The few of us that are there never encourage teh crazies, never rubber stamp the crap. But the higher ups frequently just let slide what we report. But I’m out of that next month, so whatever.
Nishi’s building straw men again, I see.
Folks build straw men to intentionally derail an argument, nishfong is just confused. I think most of the frustration with her comes from believing she is doing this shit intentionally when he fact she is really that confused. I came to that conclusion when she argued vehemently with me that Bobby Jindal was a eugenist because he was chemically castrating pedophiles to keep them from reproducing.
You can’t fake that level of stupid.
BTW? I’ll almost guarantee you that the putz social worker’s boss told him to ‘educate’ the mother rather than to initiate proceedings to take the child. And the putz just did stuff like say something off-hand, like ‘change her diaper’ and document that he ‘educated her about better care’.
They likely didn’t want to take the kid because 1. racial identity may have lead to protests of racism, 2. the kid was special needs and they had no place they could put her. At the time they first knew, anyway, but they prob’ly never checked again after that.
I’m happy to see griefquest still using the term “cudlips”. It makes dismissing anything she writes effortless.
Re: #44
I’ll bet you a dollar to a doughnut that if we researched that “private agency” we would discover that it was founded by the brother-in-law of a city councilman for the sole purpose of being awarded this city contract, and that its primary functions are to provide sinecures for the councilman’s relatives and to launder funds to his campaign. The brother-in-law and other company officers (who are all related) make six-figure salaries even though most of the officers have never set foot in the company. The agencies other employees are basically full-time campaign workers.
Welcome to big city. If I’m right about this, the failure of this agency to provide social service work says as much about the free market as the failures of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (which are larger-scale versions of the same scam).
I didn’t know that “Ms. Cudlips” was actually “nishi”. Who would have thunk it? (sarcasm off now).
Reading that article turned my stomach. I cannot begin to imagine what it must have been like for that child. I have to go with Jeff G. on this. Shoot them all, and let God sort them out. (But give ’em their lead injections in the gut, so they will take a while to die. Just for the changiness and hopitude, you understand.)
Not just shoot them all. Philadelphia has to own this, embrace it, internalize as part of their self-image. This is who they are.
Cuds do not have lips. Not for Falcon Crest, or anybody.
#47
What a vapid little shit you’ve become, nishi. I hope, for the rest of the world, you never have children. For me,I hope you do.
I seem to recall having pointed out some months ago what a repulsive little piece of feces nishi was.
I guess it’s just more obvious now.
idealogically there is EXACTLY the SAME reason to take this child from her parents as the TCPS took those children from their parents.
child abuse.
theonly thing that is different to u cudlips is that FLDS kids were clean.
/spit
whited sepuchers all the way down.
idealogically there is EXACTLY the SAME reason to take this child from her parents as the TCPS took those children from their parents.
child abuse.
theonly thing that is different to u cudlips is that FLDS kids were clean.
I know these are concepts far too complicated for you to grasp, but keep studying:
probable cause
due process
rule of law.
Keep studying these and someday you will be able to hold a discussion with adults and not sound like a precocious three year old on a sugar rush.
Funny that, nishi. I picture you more as a swallower. Maybe only robots, though. And rich ones at that.
Nishit – Those medications your doctor prescribed you, they should help. Your doctor is really only looking out for your best interests.
/spit
per Minister Jack X Klompus Muhammad el Shabazz ibn Kareem Abdul on 8/2 @ 12:18 am #
32. Tacony is a pit. Most of the lower Northeast thanks in good part to Section 8 has gone down the tubes. My sister and her kids still live in Wissinoming which is barely hanging on. Every conversation with her starts with “how’s the neighborhood holding up?†My nephew had a gun shoved in his mouth and was robbed walking through Wiss Park, roving packs of youths vandalize and mug at will. Oxford Circle and Castor Gardens have gone full on Section 8.”
My grandmother lived there — prolly within a mile or so of the bridge — tough old woman. In retrospect, the place was horrible, even then. Philly wasn’t home, but it was the next closest thing.
idealogically there is EXACTLY the SAME reason to take this child from her parents as the TCPS took those children from their parents.
child abuse.
Right. Child abuse is rightly considered a crime. Allegations of horrific abuse like this should be immediately investigated by the police, not the Department of Human Services. In fact, we could probably eliminate the Department of Human Services without suffering any ill effects at all, and then we could use some of the savings to create special child abuse investigation units within the police department. Police detectives know how to promptly and competently investigate alleged crimes while respecting the due process rights of the accused. At least they have a better track record than social workers.
Finger on it Aldo. Well put.
Nishi: “i continue to be astonished by the profound and seamless hypocrisy demonstrated here.”
Looking in the mirror again, Nishi?
Nishi: “should that child have been taken from her parents and institutionalized? not very libertarian, that.”
Better that than your vision of the future, toots. The parents should have been dealt with earlier, as should the fools from the city’s services who botched their duties.
Nishi: “do children belong to their parents? darleen sure seems to think so.”
They certainly do not belong to the state, in any of its myriad manifestations.
Nishi: “tell me, whats the difference between farming little girls to be sub-sapient breederbots or lettin a handicapped child die from neglect?”
You’re the only fool discussing farming children. And, little girl, if you can’t tell the difference between two, then you’re fit only to be taken out behind the chemical shed.
RACIST! I denounce you, and distance myself from you.
– We shouldn’t be too rough on nishi. Shes the victim of some sort of terminal medical/mental problem or repugnant physical disfigurement. Probably shes living in constant fear of following in her fathers footsteps.
– It shows in her asocial writings. Shes too vituperous and antagonistic toward any idea that even alludes to human “normal” values and feelings, because she feels shes not normal herself. Unavoidably doomed in the future.
– She dreams of building a “super race” where people like herself never suffer such life limiting conditions.
– Classic case of over-compensation.
– With any luck at all she’ll keep her problem(s) to herself, but then if PW tended to luck we would have never known about her and her “impediment” in the first place.
Delta Dawn, whats that flower you have on
Could it be a faded rose from days gone by
And did I hear you say, hes a’meetin you here today
To take you to his mansion in the sky
I try not to let myself think about this stuff happening to kids and pets. Besides the obvious, there is the helpless bewilderment.
Ahhh! Let me deal with these morons. It might make it easier to sleep.
The article refers to a “forge fest”. You wouldn’t dare have a bunch of employees sit around making up shit for the record unless you absolutely trusted them not to squeal. Which means it’s been done so often that nobody thinks anything of it.
Re: #83
“You wouldn’t dare have a bunch of employees sit around making up shit for the record unless you absolutely trusted them not to squeal.”
Which makes post #66 by Aldo,
“that its primary functions are to provide sinecures for the councilman’s relatives and to launder funds to his campaign. “
very plausible.
– Looks like a few comments got shredded moving to the new server, but overall things are humming along nicely so far Pix.
I would kill each of them by depriving them of food and water until they expired, preferably in a stifling, airless room, covered in their own feces and soaked with their own urine. Bedsores would be good, too, if they could survive long enough to get them without fluids or any nourishment.
But then, that’s just me.
Jeff G. might agree.
# 57 OI
Whoa…hang on a sec. I love Borscht! Nishi and Sashal, not so much…
Horrible. No need to be as cravenly immoral as the mother and father though, so a quick hanging should do. The social workers who lied about making the required visits need to be banned from public service for life and have to do time.
Darleen: “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein”
I can only manage about 15 or so out of the list… Guess I still have some work to do.