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More Silky Pony Love Child Commentary [Dan Collins]

I had fun at Silky’s expense yesterday, but I want to say that still and all, and as absurd as his behavior has been in some respects, I count it as a point in Silky’s favor that she had the child and that he’s shown an interest. So, as much as I’d like to mock him more, I do feel sorry for Elizabeth and his family, and for Rielle and the child, and I’m going to lay off. YMMV.

Silky Kid, I wish you the best.

Jack Shafer at Slate on the . . . diversity of coverage.

39 Replies to “More Silky Pony Love Child Commentary [Dan Collins]”

  1. cranky-d says:

    Stick a fork in him. All he has left in life is his lucrative law practice. Poor guy.

  2. Dan Collins says:

    Think of the heating bills.

  3. Trimegistus says:

    “Ma, Ma, where’s my Pa?”
    “Gone down the memory hole, Ha, Ha, Ha!”

  4. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    “Mama, who’s my daddy?”

    “Shut up kid, I’m trying to sign the blackmail checks.”

  5. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    Make fun all you want, but that kid will be beautiful.

    If you say otherwise his daddy will sue your ass good and proper.

    And then give a tax payer funded talk about how to get your poor, homeless ass off the street.

    Bum.

  6. Mikey NTH says:

    If true.
    I do not blame the child for the parents. I still reserve the right to whack the parents about rhetorically.

    And hubris claims another silky pony.

  7. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “I do not blame the child for the parents.”

    As long as the old folks home I wind up in caries the satellite channel that has Silky’s kid and Britney Spear’s bastards fighting to the death in the Thunder Dome for an ‘E! reality series,’ I will withold judgement.

  8. Patrick Carroll says:

    Oh, come on! Man up!

    It’s time for a little Old Testament Levitical hatin’, IMHO.

    The kid needs to never forget its bastard origin, so Mom and the sperm donor can experience the lifetime of contempt and anger they deserve.

    We’re not too many steps away from Somalia. The illegitimate kids and their sinning parents deserve all the scorn society can muster.

    We had lower crime rates when we had scorn and shunning.

    More scorn. More shunning.

  9. Patrick Carroll says:

    Lower crime.

  10. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “I will withold judgement”…

    And spell check.

    Damnit.

  11. Patrick Carroll says:

    Stamp out the l”e”tt”e”r “e”.

  12. Dan Collins says:

    The shame’s not the kid’s.

  13. Dewclaw says:

    “The shame’s not the kid’s.”

    Agreed. Heap all the scorn and ridicule you want on His Silkyness and his girlfriend… but the kid is pretty blameless in all of this.

  14. Patrick Carroll says:

    Sorry, but you’re wrong. The kid needs to experience the hate so the sin is not repeated.

    The sin, and its product must be despised equally.

    Or, okay, we can all become wankers. Or Somalis. Which, I guess, is where we’re headed.

    Pity, that.

  15. Mikey NTH says:

    I prefer not to run a novel where the poor child is suppossed to expiate the evil of the parents. I prefer a “You didn’t choose this, kid. We’ll judge you on your actions and behavior. Do better than those ones, ‘kay?”

    IIRC, Silas Marner had the little illegitmate girl redeeming Silas.

  16. Reverend Ouroboros says:

    Pssst! Dan be talkin down to crackers and shit.. sayin it be good that dey show interest in dey baby momma and shit like da Silky Pony do.. I’d like to cut his nuts off..

  17. Dewclaw says:

    PC, I thought the goal is to hold people accountable for their OWN actions?

    His Silkyness stuck his pecker where it shouldn’t have been… not the kid. You can make just as much impact on that child’s behavior by showing him/her the negative results to EDWARDS and the bimbo he doinked. Stigmitizing a child because his/her mom and dad have the morals of alley cats doesn’t serve any purpose whatsoever… other than making you out to be a vindictively cruel twatwaffle.

    And I mean that in the nicest possible way…

  18. jmflynny says:

    I just can’t see cutting anyone slack or giving props for showing an interest in his own child.

    Chris Rock would use far more colorful language to describe the situation but, really….

    HE’ SUPPOSED TO SHOW INTEREST.

    Now, maybe the tabs have done him a favor, I mean, at what age would his own child have had to duck behind the curtains to avoid nailing daddy to the wall?

  19. Dan Collins says:

    jmflynny,

    I’m not saying that I think he’s a cool guy. I’m just saying that a lot of similarly situated political fuckups would have insisted that the woman procure an abortion, or had her offed, even. What I am saying is that Silky seems to have had enough respect for the condition of his soul not to do either. Does it make him not a cheater? No. Does it mean I like him? No. But you can bet your bottom dollar that there are a lot of pols who would have taken matters into their own hands in such a way that there wouldn’t be any embarrassing leftovers to manage.

    Quite frankly, given what I thought I knew about Edwards’s passion for expediency, I wouldn’t have given him this much credit, not that it’s very much. And given that his mother is a wack-job, from what I think I might know about her, I wish the kid the best, may angels protect him. And I hope he has a happy life.

  20. ccoffer says:

    The shame is not the kid’s, Dan? Sadly, it is. That is why this sort of shit is so outrageous.(not tragic) What little kid is going to brag about being the bastard child of some douchebag politico he never knew?

    Deserved? No, but shame nonetheless.

  21. Dan Collins says:

    No. The child, despite his parentage, may have even nobility in the Aristotelian sense, in him. None of us ought to vaunt our parentage. We should honor them in proportion to the honor they merit. We should, if we can, love them, even. But our background, such as it is, is not our foreground. He should enjoy the fact that he is, insofar as he may. There are so many who may not. There’s the tragedy.

    And as for our rectitude, if it extends to believing that the innocent should own the sins of their fathers, then fuck it.

  22. serr8d says:

    I have great sympathy for Elizabeth Edwards. There’s your immediate victim.

    I wonder if she has enough energy to go through a divorce?

  23. ccoffer says:

    Rectitude? I’m looking at it from a little kid’s perspective, Dan.
    When I say “shame”, I don’t mean scorn. What little boy will relish being the bastard child of some Celebrity’s piece of strange ass?

    Perhaps this is a matter of semantics.

  24. serr8d says:

    Dan, all of us must have inherited original sin. We all are responsible for the sins of our ‘original’ parents, no? So what’s the difference?

  25. ccoffer says:

    Serr8d,
    Elizabeth Edwards is only one victim among the many Pony created. What is so sick about this sort of stuff is that now everyone involved is fucked. Legitimate, illegitimate is all the same once its all out in the open. Unless they all go Fundy-Mormon and move in together, its a lose, lose lose situation for everyone.

  26. Dan Collins says:

    The difference is that Christ died to ransom us. And he told us that we are not to judge, lest we also be judged.

    And he counseled the woman to sin no more, but told us there should not be blood. And he said that the sins of the father could not be visited on the children unto the seventh generation.

  27. Dan Collins says:

    Maybe, ccoffer. And it’s likely we agree more than it seems. All I am saying is that the child is innocent of his parents’ guilt. That certainly doesn’t excuse them.

  28. ccoffer says:

    His innocence doesn’t remove the mark his parents put on him. Of course he is blameless. That is why its such a fucking injustice to that little boy.

    Flipside: He was not killed for convenience. He is blessed to be alive. In the grand scheme of things, he’s the luckiest tyke in the world.

    Best,
    Chuck.

  29. ccoffer says:

    p.s. That “judge not lest ye be judged” dealio involved a crowd of people with big-ass rocks in their hands. Its “Judge” in the Hebrew sense of the word, not the discernment sense. We are supposed to love righteousness and hate sin. Judgment is required.

  30. Dan Collins says:

    Matt 7:2-5 “For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged [if we judge with an evil heart or dark intent, His judgment of us will reflect it; if we judge nobly and honestly, His judgment of us will reflect that, too], and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you [if we use extremes or exaggerations or other unfair means, our judgment will reflect it]. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye [point out his sins, “minor” in Jesus’ example here] and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye [our own sins, even and especially those we will not admit, magnified by our selective blindness]? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ [tell him of his “minor” sins] when all the time there is a plank in your own eye [that there are greater or the same sins in our own lives which we do nothing about or think we are above]? You hypocrite* [pointing out the sins of others while by pretense we think of ourselves as above sin], first take the plank out of your own eye [sincerely ask the Lord for forgiveness and learn and live the Truth and Light by His Word], and then you will see clearly [be in a righteous position] to remove the speck from your brother’s eye [to judge and to help him out of his bondage to sin].” At Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan, Jesus was talking to the multitudes gathered there after hearing of His message and of His healings to beseech them to not become like the pharisees and hypocrites who think they are above sin.

    So we also pray as Christ taught us: “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.”

    But then again, he was criticized for consorting with prostitutes and tax collectors. He taught us to value righteousness, even while acknowledging that it was something that apart from God’s great grace we have not, unto ourselves, at all. In other words, he also enjoined us to be humble.

  31. serr8d says:

    That child certainly won’t grow up wanting. Yes, all the best to those on the periphery, caught in a vain man’s stupidity (why John Edwards chose the city with the densest population of paparazzi and tabloids questions his intelligence…he couldn’t have chosen any worse.)

    As for John Edwards, he of the ‘two Americas’? (about that ‘judging’ stipulation…at this point, that’s the least of my worries) he can simply…oh.

    You’ve read the ‘new’ Inferno, Dan? Niven, Pournelle (1976)? Mussolini is the new Virgil. Turns out to be a hero.

    I could see Edwards as an ‘advertiser’. Fitting. Clean that up, biatch…

  32. ccoffer says:

    Its not plank. The real translation is “beam” or “log”.

    Thank you, Brother. Thats my favorite part of the whole shebang.

    Thing is, rebuke is a necessary thing. There is such a thing as righteousness, and we owe it to the World to BE the righteousness of *OD. Standing on the side of virtue and pointing out the pitfalls of sin is the essence of humility.

    I ain’t makin’ this stuff up. heeheee

    Best,
    Chuck

  33. Dan Collins says:

    I’ll have to check that out, serr. I haven’t seen it, yet. I can tell you that Dante’s audacity had everything to do with his faith, though, and that it was the audacity of intelligence.

  34. ccoffer says:

    He wrote a beautiful fairy tale.

    Sheol, Ben-Hinnom and Ghahenna are words that are left out of many modern translations thanks to Dante’s popular fantasy trilogy.

    Hell’s gonna be hot, lil’ nigga’! You best shape up!

    Best,
    Chuck

  35. MayBee says:

    I’m just saying that a lot of similarly situated political fuckups would have insisted that the woman procure an abortion, or had her offed, even. What I am saying is that Silky seems to have had enough respect for the condition of his soul not to do either. Does it make him not a cheater? No. Does it mean I like him? No. But you can bet your bottom dollar that there are a lot of pols who would have taken matters into their own hands in such a way that there wouldn’t be any embarrassing leftovers to manage.

    I’m sorry, but “didn’t kill him” is a really low standard, and sneaking into an out of state hotel room for a few hours in the night is a really low standard for “showing an interest”.

    Not to mention that his own ambition caused another married man, with another family, to publicly claim responsibility for the baby. That is just a whole big mess that isn’t in any body’s best interest (well, it is in one man’s best interest).

  36. ccoffer says:

    “That child certainly won’t grow up wanting.”

    Yes he will. He will grow up hungry. Its the worst kind of hunger. It creates the worst sort of appetite.

    I know that hunger.

  37. Jim Treacher says:

    Shafer’s at Slate. A few years back he also did a full-throated defense of the Enquirer as a news organization, which I am too lazy to Google.

  38. Ouroboros says:

    Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

    This has nothing to do with Silky Pony.. at least not that I intended.. but as this has turned into the scripture discussion thread I figured I’d share my favorite passage..

    My other favorite comes from the Book of Bono: (an apocryphal Irish text)

    Naked flame
    She stands in a naked flame
    I stand with the sons of Cain
    Burned by the fire of love
    Burned by the fire of love

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