The Drudge Report dispatch on the New York Times rejection of an op-ed piece by John McCain addressing Iraq and responding to Obama’s prior NYT op-ed on the issue is atop Memeorandum at the moment, so lets get to it.
ABC’s Rick Klein and Sara Just reprint more of the rejection letter from op-ed editorial page editor (and former Clinton administration official) David Shipley:
“I’d be very eager to publish the Senator on the oped page. However I’m not going to be able to accept this piece as currently written,” Shipley writes, according to a copy of the message provided to ABC News.
“It would be terrific to have an article from Sen. McCain that mirrors Sen. Obama’s piece. To that end, the article would have to articulate, in concrete terms how Sen. McCain defines victory in Iraq. It would also have to lay out a clear plan for achieving victory — with troop levels, timetables and measures for compelling the Iraqis to cooperate.”
The McCain campaign has refused to rewrite the piece, saying that the Times’ suggestions are tantamount to insisting that he change his position in order to get his opinions published.
Camp McCain has a point, depending on what Shipley means by timetables — and Obama has never been particularly specific about what troop levels would remain in his “residual force,” for that matter. However, Daniel Finkelstein of the Times of London is not out of line in suggesting that McCain’s piece comes off as more of the standard  critique of Obama’s position(s) than as making news from John McCain. And herein lies the double-standard. McCain has not changed his position on Iraq in some newsworthy way, while Obama is busy laying the groundwork to “refine” his policy. Thus, the NYT seems interested in rewarding Obama for starting to shift his position (even if the NYT would privately prefer otherwise), while blocking McCain because he has been consistent (and correct about the surge).
(h/t Memeorandum.)
I think that what you’re overlooking is that printing McCain’s oped piece might have made Baracky uncomfortable.
hf,
One could certainly hypothesize that’s what was behind Shipley’s less reasonable demands. But very often it is better to let people reach their own conclusions — and leave room for comments. ;-)
McCain’s oped says…
What the hell is he talking about? Is he talking about Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia?? I’m confused. No wonder this got rejected.
If they printed McCain’s oped they would be contributing to racism.
Do we have any lawyers here?
I think it’s time to sue the Federal Election Commission to require them to declare the editorial budget of The New York Times, CBS, and NBC/MSNBC as contributions in kind to the DNC and/or the Obama for President campaign.
Regards,
Ric
I can not seem to find the NYTimes response to McCain but did they type the word CHANGE in there? I would hate to think they left it out.
Ric,
The Federal Election Campaigns Act of 1974 (as amended) has a nifty “media expemption,” which is purely coincidental to the MSM support for campaign speech restrictions, I assure you.
Whether the growth of the Internet totally blows a hole in that schema is a subject I leave for later.
Drudge has made a point lately of linking to IHT content instead of the NYT’s. I think that is wise.
I wonder why the NYT cannot print the essays of both candidates and allow their readers to decide if McCain’s is defective.
Karl,
I am well aware of the media exemption. Given the facts on the ground, I believe that it is possible to establish that the organizations I cited, inter alia, have forfeited their right to that exemption; that is what any such case would have to establish. Flagrant campaigning for one party while ignoring or sneering at the other is not at all what the original writers of FECA had in mind.
Regards,
Ric
Ric,
You are a very charitable man.
The NY Post outsells the New York Times in New York. I bet they would print Mr. McCain’s oped.
That being said, I have always entertained the theory that media exemption is unconstitutional on the ground that it essentially works like a licensing of “the press,” giving the gov’t the power to say who is the press and who is not. Unfortunately, there is some language in the case upholding BCRA that now runs against that theory (though that language is in tension with the Supremes’ rulings in other contexts).
Meanwhile, Baracky needs to make the most of the opportunity the New York Times has given him to reach voters who have never considered voting Democratic before. This could be a real gamechanger.
“____”, says McCain
Comment by urthshu on 7/21 @ 2:10 pm #
What the bleep was that???!!!???
I was thinking it would make a funny headline, myself
Did you know that Senator Barack Obama has written two books and has an Op-Ed in the NYT?
McCain? Feh!
I have always entertained the theory that media exemption is unconstitutional on the ground that it essentially works like a licensing of “the press,†giving the gov’t the power to say who is the press and who is not.
A very good point. If it is up to the government to define the press it can hardly be considered free.
Did you know that Senator Barack Obama has written two books and has an Op-Ed in the NYT?
And he doesn’t need another Senator to read his words on the Senate floor, he can do it himself.
Wilson is right!
Daniel Finkelstein is a tool I think. McCain’s oped makes the very cogent point that…
Baracky’s oped was the tired, recycled one. McCain’s point is very timely…
Baracky and Chuck Hagel’s trip is a sham. This would be news to New York Times readers I think. And to people who watch the tv.
I wonder why the NYT cannot print the essays of both candidates and allow their readers to decide if McCain’s is defective.
Exactly, Aldo.
If McCain thought the best policy to thwart enemies of the US was to mail them large stacks of fruit-flavored Marshmallows, It would still be worth to print that for comparison’s sake with Obama’s piece. McCain must have a specific timetable or no printing? WTF??
…while blocking McCain because he has been consistent (and correct about the surge).
He also has that nasty ‘R’ after his name.
Well played on the McCain teams part. By giving it to Drudge the op-ed is getting far more attention than it would have had the Times just nutted up and printed it. Now with the added benefit of highlighting what a mess the NYT’s is, the media department of Democrats.
– Ok. Has the mask slipped sufficiently now? Can we go ahead and call them the NYDJ (New York Democrat Journal), because the evidence of their bias could not be more blatant.
– BTW. Obama is so on top of things, apparently he issued his plan to draw down to pre-surge levels immediately after he takes office, which will be hard to do since the Generals on the ground in Iraq announced yesterday that they have alreadu drawn doen 5 brigades, which takes us to – wait for it – “a level close to the pre-surge numbers of troops in Iraq.”
– Does Obama have a fucking clue concerning any aspect whatsoever of the Iraq situation.
– Someone in his organization should let him know the surge did not fail. Hes such an ass, pandering away to his base, ignoring any sort of truth.
And he doesn’t need another Senator to read his words on the Senate floor, he can do it himself.
Wouldn’t that go against voting present? You know, actually taking a stand?
He also has that nasty
‘R’INO after his name.There, I fixed…oh, hell, why do I even try?
Fruit-flavored marshmallows?
Look! Some deer in the bushes!
Hey. Tell me if you have any luck with those SarahW if you try cause they looked like a neat Christmas present maybe. But I’m not ordering them from France. Oh… those were from here, aldo.
–“I wonder why the NYT cannot print the essays of both candidates”
– First, the NYT’s chosen candidate cannot be shown to be a complete bonehead by anything that would clearly delineate all the ways hes been wrong in the past on Iraq, and worse, continues to this day to be wrong.
– Secondly they don’t want to print McCains position, so that when Baraky gets back he can change his positions to what McCain has been saying all along, and then lay claim to them, declaring McCain is now copying him. Some of the moonbat community are already trying that ploy as part of their arguments.
– Thirdly, they can’t afford to lose anymore readers by printing the truth.
– But you know what. We may not hear much about it, other than the screaming over at Kos and Hamshers hovels, but I have to think that a hell of a lot of the SP’s are really pissed at Obamas “changiness” on so many issues.
SP’s?
HF, you and SarahW better be careful with those. Professor Caricature has already been complaining about the bitter fluffiness here at PW.
Of course, I’m tempted to say that his blog is a little heavy on the Academia Nut.
BTW, I am not arguing the merits of Mccain’s arguments here. But if we disdain the notion of a “fairness doctrine” for Radio/TV, we should also recognize that the NYT is not required to publish McCain’s piece solely as a rebuttal. I could see the argument for wanting something a little more “newsy.” What I don’t buy is that the NYT assumes McCain should have to talk about troop levels or timetables.
Senators can make speeches without voting, Mikey. See “Kerry, John F*ing”
Regards,
Ric
Aldo,
LOL
kelly,
I think SPs here refers to secular progressives, though it could mean suppressive persons to a Scientologist.
Fluffy is relative I think. For example, here the AP manages to write about McCain’s oped without, you know, quoting anything from it. Also doesn’t credit Mr. Drudge. Also, no sign they tried to contact the New York Times to maybe ask about the “back and forth” they had with Baracky’s oped.
I a sense it serves McCain right for going to the NYT in the first place. He’s a putz, is another way of putting it.
“Of course, I’m tempted to say that his blog is a little heavy on the Academia Nut.”
Now that’s funny!
[sotto voce to Karl] Thanks. BBH has never really struck me as a Scientologist type, though.
Karl, don’t go there. It’s ammunition for the leftoids.
Whether people have or don’t have a right or privilege is a completely separate question from whether or not their use of such right or privilege is correct (in some sense), sensible, or just. I can and do advocate that more people should own and be familiar with firearms. This does not mean that I cannot come down like a ton of bricks on people who use guns to, e.g., shoot up school children.
The New York Times is perfectly free to print anything it wants — and we, observing the use they make of that privilege, are perfectly free to take note and comment when the use they make of the right is contrary to any semblance of equity or, indeed, to their own stated principles as applied to “newsworthiness”. They are free to advocate Obama if they care to. We are then free to point out that if they’re in the tank for any candidate, it violates any and every principle of “fair and balanced Press coverage”.
Regards,
Ric
Agreed, Sdferr. A lot of people here predicted that JohnnyMac’s little love affair with the MSM would end badly. Poor guy. Get in bed with strung out crack whores like the media, get up with nasty, oozing sores resistant to the most potent antibiotics.
– kelly
– “SP’s” – Secular Pinheads.
Thanks, BBH. I was thinking Seeping Pustules.
*Get in bed with strung out crack whores like the media, get up with nasty, oozing sores resistant to the most potent antibiotic*
Bill Clinton agrees. Literally and figuratively.
kelly, for the NYT, any ‘R’ after your name is a very bad thing.
BTW – What does a sea dog say?
“Arrrrr-f! Arrrrr-f!”
Of course they can, Ric.
It still means making a stand on the record, on C-SPAN – vote or no.
That seems to be against Sen. Obama’s philosophy of ‘weathervane’.
– OT – Feets, as the resident expert in all things cupcake, I’m assuming you’re aware of the great American upsurge in cupcake-losity. From a local recent news article:
“Think you can handle a shot of the hard stuff? Better saddle up to the bar with your toothbrush.
The bakeshop boom that has funneled the oh-so-retro love affair with cupcakes has spawned a new – albeit micro – trend that has Saturday night hipsters doing a new kind of shot that won’t burn your gullet like 150 proof.
– “Frosting shots”
…..
For a small fee customers get a dollop of their favorite frosting in a paper or plastic cup, about the size of a frozen yogurt sample.
….
– Erin McKenna, owner of BabyCakes NYC in Manhattan – which also offers vegancakes – first tried it after a customer suggested making extra frosting and serving it as shot sized portions. “It really became a big thing. I tried to stop offering them but customers would stop me on the street and get in my face, asking what happened to the frosting shots?”.
…..
– “At back-in-the-day bakery in Savana, Ga., owner Cheryl Day has been serving low cost frosting shots during her “cupcake happy hour” for over 2 years now, saying she typically sells 100+ during an average evening.”
….
– “Its kind of cut-to-the-chase evolution of cupcakes”, says Tanya Steel, editor in chief of foodie Web site, Epicurious.com. Said she, “It provides just a little nip of sweetness and yumminess without going whole hog, and best of all you don’t need a designated driver.”
– Be afraid feets, be very afraid… :)
Feets, as the resident expert in all things cupcake…
Gotta love PW.
That’s brilliant. I bet creamcheese is involved. And creamcheese amaretto. I’m not allowed to go down the frosting aisle. Especially not after that 3 for $5 fiasco. But the shot thing is brilliant, except you have to make sure that you have enough surface area involved cause for real, icing is way enhanced if it gets just this slight really thin layer of kind of dry frosting on top of the other frosting goodness. I’m not sure why this is.
We have one of those newfangled cupcake shops here.
They’re pretty good, but not $2.50 each good. I can get two two-packs of Hostess from the vending machine for that.
Good job, Spies. Hostess I think is in bankruptcy. I’m very concerned. But it looks like there’s hope. But they’ve only had four profitable months in like four years. We all should do out part I think.
I’d like to help Hostess out, but diet and all. Can’t do it.
#51 BBH –
Darn hedonists – buying that! When I was a kid, licking the blades of the mixer was a high point!
Darn hedonists.
Oh. They last forever, Carin. You can put them away for emergencies. Theoretically.
Could I bury them in my yard? You know, for REAL emergencies? I have children and childhood obesity to worry about. They’re NOT, but only because I don’t buy Hostess. So unless I could make them totally inaccessible to youngsters …
I think we need a national Strategic Cupcake Reserve.
Seriously, I don’t know what’s up with that cupcake place. I can understand charging a premium (they appear to use real chocolate and stuff like that) but not 4X.
People feel better if they pay more. Cause I know and you know and they know the $1 box of a dozen individually wrapped Swiss Miss rolls of chocolatey goodness more than does the trick, but this isn’t that, you see. I don’t completely understand it really, but it’s one of the things Starbicks does right, really, irrespective of what Richard Fucking Miniter says. Oh. Look. He’s thinking his deep thoughts again today about the NYT thing. Have a cupcake Richard and shut the fuck up. Jeez.
oh. *Starbucks* I meant. I’ve pretty much stopped going there though. Lots of new faces last time I was there. And they hung mirrors all over by where you wait. I think they’re so you can decide if you want to flirt with any of the other waiting people.
Starbucks coffee sux. The iced things are ok, but I fear how many calories they contain- they even tell you they can’t make it “fat free” like their cappuccinos, but “lite”. Lite doesn’t really mean shit, since it’s all relative. But, the only “bought” coffee I ever threw away was from Starbucks.
I’m more of a Caribou gal.
I think it’s because of the crystals hf. People just really like crystals.
We don’t have Caribou, Coffee Bean is the Starbucks alternative mostly. The other thing you have to watch at Starbucks is for the no sugar *added* trick. Maybe crystals too, but people for sure are suckers for anything that comes in a dollop I think. It’s like hardwired in our dna I think.
I mean on the icing surface. Really tiny crystals of fat and sugar.
You know who would enjoy a nice cream filled cupcake? Angela Dav…I mean, Michelle Obama.
But you’re gonna hafta work for it, girl.
I don’t usually do any topping to coffee. It just doesn’t seem right.
Except coffee alcoholic beverages. My favorite used to always be a “Nutty Irishman” – frangelico and Baileys. OMG. Yum.
Oh. We’ll need an electron microscope. Oh hey.
So basically what that says I think is that an icing that has a thin dry layer is well-balanced and you’re likely to preserve the aerated structure of the icing underneath, which means when you taste it you’re getting enough air do you can taste it right. This would explain why icing tastes better at room temperature than when it’s refrigerated.
air *so* you can taste it right
My favorite used to always be a “Nutty Irishman†– frangelico and Baileys.
That does sound good. I’ll have to remember that when winter comes around.
My wife made a German chocolate cake on Saturday. With vanilla buttercream frosting.
It’s gone already.
German chocolate cake is number one on my list of cakes. Is there any truth to the tale that it was invented in Louisiana, do you think?
Hmmm, the wiki says Dallas in 1957, which is odd, since I’m from there and probably first had it in 1958 or so.
Playing favorites with cake is wrong.
Not knowing what you like best is wrong.
I see we are at an impasse.
Clearly. On cake, an impasse. Ha.
Well, Obama still maintains his anti-surge vote was the right vote, so we can start over in agreement that he’s remains an idiot.
That’s unbelievable. I had to check.
That’s really chilling. Who told you he was evil? I did. Yup. Nailed that one on the head I did.
– Feets. Thats not the money quote. He was asked the same thing in a more detailed way in another interview this afternoon and the answer he gave is not translatible in english,
– Krauthammer said it was 100% unequivocal gibberish.
– He just refuses to admit he was wrong.
BTW, Omar Fadil has a new comment up on the last week of diplomacy in the Middle east, wherein he says that for them, the middle-easterns, diplomacy mostly means weakness in the interlocutor. It’s available at both Iraq the Model and PJM.
Thanks BBH. AP has it.
Slavering whore. He wanted the violence to continue so he could win a political debate. Unbelievable.
“….we had to change the political debate…”
– Translated: “I was trying to win a primary and I might as well have blown my brains out as go against the Narrativeâ„¢.”
– And hes still scared shitless to slip up and admit he was wrong, or that the surge worked.
– I notice now the Progs are trying to parse the success into “Well it was because the locals started to cooporate, not necause of Bushes surge plan.”
– The fuccking Left will lie till they die.
His followers lap that up like a cat laps sweet cream.
Poured on a big ol turd.
With flies buzzing all around. And mewls for more.
>>”Poured on a big ol turd.
With flies buzzing all around. And mewls for more.”
To paraphrase Marie Antionette, let them eat shit.
– Well ever having to admit Bush did anything right in his entire 8 years is tantamont to getting trown out of the cult.
– Its amazing to watch the panic and rapacious reaction if anyone on Kos or LiarDogFake says a peep like that.
– They’re whole existance is wrapped around a pile of nuanced bullshit and vapid lies. You pull out one and the whole pile of stinking anti-American Chomsky crap comes falling down.
I have no idea what McCain was thinking when he approached the Times.
Anybody else on the planet knew that the Times was done with McCain the second they were sure he’d blundered across the primary finish line ahead of Thompson, Tancredo, and Romney.
So.. If you bake pound cake batter into cupcakes, do you wind up with ounce cakes?
– TMJ – in the last go around the NYT was in McCains camp, and wooed him. Not as much as they’re doing with Obama, his campaign, is after all, equal to the second coming, but never the less they did.
– They also helped him in the early “rough” days when he was coming back from the dead. It was a good story then.
– But all that was before the Black plague set in.
So.. If you bake pound cake batter into cupcakes, do you wind up with ounce cakes?
PW is one of the few political blogs with in-house cupcake experts standing by to answer questions like this. Because of Teh Bitter Fluffiness.
I am on a diet.
Mrs. Tmj turned me on to the little known fact that “Pound Cake” was introduced into the West by the KGB back in the fifties.
The recipe had been almost forgotten since the Stalin/Trotsky schism. It sat in a box on a shelf in the back of the Lubyanka mid-level torturers’ cafeteria on an index card marked “TON Cake”.
In short.
The NYT has the right not to publish it.
But they’re stated reasons for doing so are bullshit.
Poor Barack can’t handle competition on his own.
So.. If you bake pound cake batter into cupcakes, do you wind up with ounce cakes?
Troy ounce cakes.
– If you’re going to deal effectively with Secular Pinheads, you have to be very good at handling cupcakes.
Q: If you had to do it over again, knowing what you know now, would you support the surge?
A: No, because, keep in mind that…
Q: You wouldn’t?
A: Keep in mind… These kinds of hypotheticals are very difficult. Hindsight is 20/20. But I think that, what I’m absolutely convinced of, is that at that time we had to change the political debate because the view of the Bush administration at that time was one that I just disagreed with.
Stunning. I saw this on TV earlier and almost spit by coffee. In hindsight, he still would not support the strategy that won this war. Think about that for a minute. He would rather lose the war and get a bunch of Americans killed rather than admit Bush was right about the surge. Because he hates George Bush. Wow. This guy is dangerous.
Insta-lanche
Are you questioning his patriotism, fugazi?
“Those are not the facts I knew. I denounce the facts, they do not stand for me and do not speak for me or my campaign in any way”
-Obama
When Barry gives one of his patented “explanations” it always brings to mind:
It makes it more difficult for
me to say what I’m now going to say.
I do feel it’s time
to set the record straight.
I didn’t come here
just as an administrator.
I came to this hospital
to settle a score.
What score?
My father built
this hospital.
But to his family…
…he was an unmerciful tyrant.
An absolute dodo bird.
Oh, no! Not live.
Let’s see where she goes.
He drove my mother to drink.
In fact, she went riding one time
and lost all her teeth.
What? What?
–the oldest daughter, the pretty,
charming one, became pregnant…
…at and was driven
out of the house.
She was so terrified that her daughter
would bear the stigma of illegitimacy…
…she changed her name and contracted
a disfiguring disease…
…after moving to Tangiers, where
she raised the girl as her sister.
But her one ambition….
Any preference of shots
on this one?
–was to become a nurse.
So she returned to the States
and joined the staff right here…
…at Southwest General.
She worked here
and had to speak out…
…wherever she saw injustice
and inhumanity.
Don’t you understand that,
Dr. Brewster?
I never laid a hand on her.
Yes, you did. She was shunned
by all you nurses too.
Give me something, one.
Not backs.
Two and three go left and right.
No, two go left!
Three go right!
Her outspokenness threatened
you doctors.
But she was deeply, deeply,
deeply loved…
-…by her brother.
-Her brother?
This brother,
on the day of her death…
…swore to the good Lord above
he’d follow in her footsteps.
And, and, and…
…just, just, just…
Don’t, don’t, don’t panic.
…owe it all up to her!
But on her terms!
Here come the terms.
As a woman…
…and just as proud to be a woman…
…as she ever was..
…for I am not Emily Kimberly…
…the daughter of Dwayne…
…and Alma Kimberly.
No, I’m not.
I’m Edward Kimberly,
Anthea’s reckless brother.
Holy Christ!
Edward Kimberly, who’s finally
vindicated his sister’s good name.
I’m Edward Kimberly.
Edward Kimberly.
-I’ll be damned.
-I’m not mentally ill, but proud…
…and lucky to be the woman
that was the best part of my manhood.
The best part of myself.
RIP Sidney Pollack
This guy is dangerous.
But he’s had help. Al Gore and Jimmy Carter before him have worked hard to undercut the notion of American exceptionalism and place the US on the same moral plane as the rest of the world. Once you’ve done that, America is no longer a shining city on a hill, but just another island of humanity needing the superior wisdom of a multicultural leader to bring it’s Living Constitution in line with a New World Order.
#88 TMJ – He probably was thinking of getting it into the paper of record. But handing it to Drudge after the rejection was priceless!
McCain got more coverage of this than if the Times had just run his Op-Ed.
How the hell can they tell him to rewrite an opinion? I mean obviously they did tell him to do just that, but how does this square with “journalistic integrity” to tell one of the two people who might be president what his opinion must be in order to get printed?
The Express edition of the WaPo this morning (which they hand out for free) had on it’s cover a picture of Obama in Iraq with a headline of something like “Obama finds support for his position in Iraq”. Inside there are pictures of Obama with Petraeus with similar captions.
The press has decided that they just weren’t helpful enough to Kerry in 2004 and are doubling their efforts. I read that rag every morning on my ride in and every story regarding Obama is positive, and every teeny tiny mention of McCain contains something negative, if they bother to cover him at all.
It’s funny when people argue about the lack of bias in today’s MSM. Funny in a “these sort of things have bad unintended consequences sometimes” sort of way. I hope that one of those consequences is all the writers and editors who have given up their integrity lose their jobs.
I think those mirrors were put there so you can look at yourself and contemplate how cool you for going to Starbucks.
Personally, I would rather snort meth than drink their coffee. Meth vis not quite as wiry.
“- Does Obama have a fucking clue concerning any aspect whatsoever of the Iraq situation.”
Well, Obama does know that Iraq doesn’t have a common border with Pakistan. I believe he also knows the difference between Sunni and Shiite.
Heck, I heard Obama knows that Chekoslovakia doesn’t exist anymore.
McCain visited Slovenia and called the PM the PM of Chekoslovakia to his face. McCain has, on at least 5 occasions referred to Chekoslovakia (even while visiting the states formed after the dissolution of Chek).
The thought of a McCain presidency scares me. I don’t know if he’s stupid or senile. He did graduate fifth from the bottom of his Naval Academy class but you’d think even a dolt would pick up some foreign policy tid-bits while running as the Foreign Policy candidate for President.
I’m worried about someone who messes up a sometimes trivial, often salient fact related to our foreign policy on an almost daily basis.
Being fundamentally uninformed AND having a sometimes violent temper is not a particularly good combination for a President.
I’m worried about someone who messes up a sometimes trivial, often salient fact
57 states.
President for 8 to 10 years.
Breathalizer, err inhaleator
Joint Chiefs of Staff on Iraq
10,000 dead in Kansas tornado
more assorted gibberish
I’m guessing you don’t get much sleep ffakr
musn’t forget the big bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor or the dead soldiers in the audience on Memorial Day.
If the thought of a McCain presidency scares you then you must frighten rather easily. After all, it’s only a thought. Boo!
ffakr/faker?
ffakr:
Was Obama against the surge before he was for the surge even though he still thinks the surge was the wrong thing to do as he always knew it would improve security even though it might make things worse?
BOO!!
ffakr may prefer the candidate who confused Iraq and Iran, and does not know which languages are spoken in Iraq and Afghanistan.
and does not know which languages are spoken in Iraq and Afghanistan.
But “mercy boo coo” still works there, right?
Yea, al and “Commo esta changiness?”