John McLaughlin getting off lightly?
“Does it frost Jackson, Jesse Jackson, that…an Oreo should be the beneficiary of the long civil rights struggle which Jesse Jackson spent his lifetime fighting for?” McLaughlin asked his panelists.
Hahahaha! You know what you are, cracker? Double-stuffed. Who’s frosted now, motherfucker?
CNN, ever helpful with the background, adds:
The term “Oreo” is often viewed as a derogatory term toward some African-Americans who appear not to exhibit certain stereotypes of their race.
But wait! There’s more!
Panelist Peter Beinart, a senior fellow on the Council of Foreign Relations, immediately called that depiction of Obama “completely unfair.”
Dude! He plays basketball!
I mean, c’mon: couldn’t the old fart have left it at threatening to cut his nuts off?
The term “Oreo†is often viewed as a derogatory term toward some African-Americans who appear not to exhibit certain stereotypes of their race.
Umm, no. An “Oreo” is a derogatory term toward someone that is half black and half white.
Racists.
Uh . . . that’s actually Moolatte.
He shoulda stuck to playin’ gitar. Or what ever it was them hairy kritschna’s did
You guys are just totally blowing our racist rethuglian cred.
How come nobody called him an Uncle Tom yet? That is surely coming before King Harvest. Or Elijah.
I still maintain that the core of our nation’s “brown leadership” (Jackson, Sharpton, et al is less than excited about the prospect of having to listen to sermons from someone they consider a honky in black-face.
They want a Kunta Kinte to win the nomination, not a tan skinned Pat Boone who be frontin’.
Wow, did they catch the part where he said he would cut his balls out, sotto voce?
Because that would have been waaaaay worse, and liberals everywhere would shun him for all time, right?
What are the chance of this guy, Andy Martin, saying Obama’s mom and dad never married ?
Honestly, I don’t care whether Obama is a bastard in the technical sense.
Barry ain’t “authentic”!
“Umm, no. An “Oreo†is a derogatory term toward someone that is half black and half white.”
Um no, CNN’s right. I should know.
I hope you’re going to write about this, J.
Oh, OK Baldilocks. I’m wrong…
*slinks off with head down*
If he’s an oreo will that make him more interesting cause he’s boring my head off to where I don’t really care what kind of cookie he is cause he’s a damn boring cookie whatever kind he is. Not like a Pepperidge Farm cookie or even any cookie with even a hint of chocolate at all, but more like those Girl Scout cookies that don’t taste like anything. These ones. Who buys those anyway? No idea. But oreos have layers plural and Baracky only has the single hopeychangeyblahblahblah one and I’m way over it already.
Who buys those anyway?
My mom. She always bought us candy that tasted like shit so it would last longer.
Nilla.
Oreos suck anyway.
Too bad you can’t get genuine Hydrox® any more.
“Oh, OK Baldilocks. I’m wrong…
*slinks off with head down*”
Don’t feel bad, babe, for not having your racial insults down pat. :-)
SB&P, hang tough.
Just part of that national conversation on race we’re having…
Waaaaaaaaaaay OT, but Josh Hamilton is a man. What a show.
You guys are depraved. Next, you’ll want to be in Uncle Tom’s Cabana. Keep up the mythology.
If O! was a Mint Milano I would totally vote for him.
Part vanilla, part chocolate.. all delicious.
plus they never really fill you up…
They kind of lack.. I dunno.. ‘substance’.
Ooh.. spooky.. Food imitating life.
SB&P, hang tough.
Cool!
So this is a cookie thread. Nice.
#6 ccoffer – I think it is easy to understand if you think of Messers. Jackson and Sharpton as political bosses and this Sen. Obama comes along, and he isn’t out of their machine(s) and he doesn’t give them the due that they believe they are entitled to. They are angry because he can muscle them out of their airtime (he already has the media attention they believe is their property), and if they do not have airtime they will not have the influence they need.
No boss likes to be eclipsed for when the power goes the money goes with it.
You don’t like it, cynn? Tough cookies. That’s the way the cookie crumbles. You have a crummy attitude.
By the way, you just ate a coaster.
I like those sugar wafer cookies. Vanilla. Chocolate. Strawberry. I can eat a whole package in one sitting. And girl scout Thin Mints. By the box.
Seriously, though, you need to recalibrate your nastiness. I would advise the same thing of the SadlyNoers and others. This election is sputrid, and shit like this makes it worse. Of course, in the spirit of free speech and intentionalism, you are free to disagree.
Just don’t tell me about it. It defeats the purpose.
Keep projecting, cynn. Your comments say way more about you than a sober person would want.
Hint: When you come to a conclusion that no one else does, and you do that repeatedly, then it is time for some introspection to discover why that happens.
In other words: yes, it is just you.
Because I am feeling good today, I’ll give the best advice – free.
Try explaining how you came to the conclusion you came to, showing all work, and keeping the sarcasm and anger away. “You said ____________. Because ___________ means blank, and I know this because of _____________, I believe you are actually trying to say _______________. I think this is wrong for the reasons I just said, and for this/these reason(s)____________________________.”
IIRC, in law probable cause comes about when reasonable suspicion is supported by clearly articulable facts. See Terry v Ohio for an idea of the facts that led to the case. Try clearly articulating first instead of making people guess how you got there in the first place.
Because making people guess all the time leads them to just return the favor and guess that you are being contrary because you are just a jerk; not that you actually have a legitimate point to make.
Mikey – a fill in the blanks contest could be fun.
Mikey, you’re full of shit. You’d love to shoot down every oppo voice out there, wouldn’t you? Well, blast away with your cheap joystick. Best of luck with the rest.
cynn: That’s how I’m interpreting it. It’s about cookies.
Just as the screechbot left is interpreting the New Yorker cover as a slam against Obama.
Deal.
::sigh::
No, cynn. Yes, the election is sputrid. (love the coinage, BTW.)
Nothing makes it worse. By my estimate there are roughly fifty million True Believers in both camps. The other quarter billion of us are looking at this crap and saying, Shit. Is this the best we can f*ing do?
“None of the above” would win this election. If you added “…and shoot them all to put them out of our misery” it would carry forty-seven States and the District of Colombia.
Regards,
Ric
Someone sounds pretty frosted. btw though has Jesse been on tv at all since he talked about removing Baracky’s testicles? I haven’t heard anything, just that he released a statement. I’d like to know what he has to say for himself, being that NPR and I’m sure everyone else keeps putting people on that sort of muse about what they’re pretty sure Jesse would have to say for himself. It can’t be that he doesn’t want to get in front of a camera or microphone or whatever. No way.
Try explaining how you came to the conclusion you came to, showing all work, and keeping the sarcasm and anger away. “You said __Obama is a terrorist _Mime_________. Because _you made it up__My brain________ means blank, and I know this because of __your lying eyes___are Arabic brown___eyes are blue I believe you are actually trying to say c_houd be assassinated__promptly___________. I think this is wrong for the reasons I just said, and for this/these reason(s)____I want to instigate revolution____in my underpants____________________.â€Â
IIRC, in law probable cause comes about when reasonable suspicion is supported by clearly articulable facts. See Terry v Ohio for an idea of the facts that led to the case. Try clearly articulating first instead of making people guess how you got there in the first place.
Hey guys.. OT .. but just got the call that my daughter’s in hard labor and I’ll be a grampa by midnight..
God I feel old.. Excited!… but old.
Yay! Hey it’s also Tayna Donelly’s birthday. She did a video about a grandpa. Or a hat. Or a tree. Or something. Actually I think there’s a metaphor involved. Kind of a grim one really.
Congrats, Ouroboros!
cynn: what the FUCK does the Terry ruling have to do with this?
Hint: this isn’t a court of law.
Hint #2: courts operate by different rules of evidence than science, or, for that matter, everyday conversation.
Uncle Tom
What’s in those, anyway? I can find Aunt Edy’s Molasses Crinkles and Auntie Linda’s Ginger Gems, but no recipe for Uncle Toms is coming up in a quick google.
Ouroboros: Well done; you got this far. Best wishes.
Hmmmm.
I don’t care about the “oreo” commment. That’s absolutely irrelevant.
…
I want to know what they were discussing **BEFORE** that segment that had John McLaughlin so relaxed that he could rip the “oreo” comment off without a single second thought.
Spies, what Terry ruling are you talking about?????
Spies, what Terry ruling are you talking about?????
The one you mentioned in your post?
Jeezus.
I think I wanna file my nails. Hey! Jesse. Now Jerome.
– Ouro, you probably thought this post was about you…(tribute to Carley)
– Anyway congrates….
– cynn, whats really chaping your ass is the fact that Jesse broke Hampshers law, and ostensibly gave the Right ammunition. Well, if you don’t want it mocked, or revealed, then keep your dirty laundry in the family.
– In the mean time several of us saw this coming way back when. Did you really think the griefers industry would go quietly? Guys like Jackson and Sharpton couldn’t find a job without the victim card.
– Pflegers little rant could apply to the two of them just as well as Hillery. “Here come this black guy, Barack Obama, and what am I gonna do. The black community belongs to ME, Me, Me.”
– Except its time to move on. Its probably the one thing Obama’s ever said I agreed with, personal responsibility, you know, that thing your side hates and runs away from like raped apes.
– Although today in front of the NAACP, Barack suddenly reversed the bus a bit, probably running over a few of his advisor’s in the process, still it stayed in his message.
– Times have changed and griefers are no longer in demand.
Ouroboros!
I hope all is well, all is easy, and the new little Ouro-whatever comes in healthy, and the Ouro-daughter too!
SBP:
It was ME who mentioned Terry and not cynn. I was in a generous lecturing mood and all that.
I mean…really!
BBH – Thanks for geting what I was blathering about!
Else I’d have to take my own advice/medicine and that never tastes good…
SBP, cynn cut and pasted NOs comment #32 and didn’t delete That part.
Not that she isn’t a shrew or anything.
Oops, Mikey. OK, I quit. This is a bad night for me.
Shoot down oppo voices?
Cynn, I just gave you advice on how to be clear in articulating your points – you know, explaining why you are contrary to a post and all that. It helps others understand why you came to the conclusion you did and helps you when you contend that others here do not understand the point you are trying to make.
Look, being contrary just to be contrary is understandable in a two-year-old; it isn’t understandable in a supposed adult.
It was ME who mentioned Terry and not cynn. I was in a generous lecturing mood and all that.
Ah, sorry. I missed your earlier post, and didn’t see what Terry had to do with the blather that she’d used to fill in the blanks.
I’m glad you’re having a great night though Ouroboros.
Congrats!
I can’t believe that you racists have turned your back on Famous Amos.
Mikey: Unless I missed my mark, here’s what you said:
Keep projecting, cynn. Your comments say way more about you than a sober person would want.
Hint: When you come to a conclusion that no one else does, and you do that repeatedly, then it is time for some introspection to discover why that happens.
In other words: yes, it is just you.
Besside the fact that it makes no sensem riddle me ree.
I was using Terry as an example. “I suspected this based on my experience and training in this area (the reasonable suspicion part), and because I observed this, that, and the other thing (articulable facts part).”
It makes for a reasonably supported argument based on both intuition and argument. It provides support for a conclusion. And it can be debated and responded to.
Look: here is another example. The Coast Guard wants the auxiliary to use the GAR (Green-Amber-Red) system for missions, assigning a numerical value to certain factors such as weather, type of facility (boat), number of crew, difficulty of mission, health/condition of crew and so on to decide whether the mission should proceed or should be cancelled. The purpose is to keep people from getting in over their head and needing to also be rescued.
Both are systems that are trying to get people to stop just reacting and to actually think about what they are doing, what they are getting into. To force pre-thinking.
Auto-contrarianism (a knee-jerk reaction) is the opposite of both systems and leads to foot-in-mouth disease.
Cynn – look at your comments here on this post and elsewhere on this site. Consider the nature of this site and consider the regular commenters here. The regulars here have a lot of experience in various fields and in life. By a minor survey in another comment thread a few weeks back I came to the conclusion that at 42 I am one of the younger, less-experienced commenters here.
If you are always coming to a contrary reaction to comments or posts here it may not be the posts or coments that are wrong, it may be you. As in the phrase (A) “Is it just me, or does it seem that _____________?” (B) “Yes, it is just you.”
If you are finding yourself always coming in contrary to posts or comments it would be well-worth your while to explain, without rancor, how and why you come to your conclusions. It keeps you from being dismissed out of hand as a mere auto-contrarian crank, and provides something that a poster or a commenter can reply to.
You will note that I sent in several comments. I expanded beyond my knee-jerk reaction and tried to explain my difficulty in giving your comments any regard. I do not know how or why you come to your conclusions, and not knowing that I can’t really say anything that addresses what your argument is.
Without the actual train of thought displayed it is impossible for anyone to know where you are coming from. John Voelker (author of ‘Anatomy of A Murder’) was a Michigan Supreme Court Justice, and in an opinion he stated that failure to brief an argument was tantamount to abandoning it. An attorney could not expect the court to take his conclusion, discover the issue, research the law pro and con, and fabricate his arguments. You must first prime the pump before the appellate well can flow.
Same here.
Here is another comment, cynn: I am trying to take you seriously, but you aren’t helping me do so. The fact that I want to understand may make me a poor advocate, but I think it makes me a better person. As an example, months ago, I told thor much the same thing, that such behavior – giving a contrary comment without an explanation was heading into TTP territory. He didn’t really understand, and devolved into a mostly thoughtless wreck; an internet tetherball for all here who would just swat away.
Sleep on it a bit, and come on back. It isn’t my site, but that is my assessment.
maybe cynn is on a diet. and here’s Dan posting about cookies. bastard.
I agree with HF. Barack is poorly made shortbread.
I mean, I’d be cranky too.
oh, and “getting off lightly”? I see what you did there Dan. don’t get much paler than McLaughlin.
RACIST!
Sugar free Mrs Meringues are good for a diet. You can eat a whole tin of them like popcorn, and it’s maybe a hundred calories and plenty of protein.
I dunno, SarahW sometimes it’s more about texture. for me anyway. not just any chocolate will do. it must be a cupcake.
Frankly, I sometimes think cynn has a Vitamin H deficiency.
The cupcake cravings are hard to stay. I can’t resist real buttercream chocolate frosting.
Chocolate and butter?
That is a flavor sensation that Reese’s needs to address.
Chocolate is a guilty pleasure for whites. Eating too many Oreo’s makes white people feel guilty. Dipping Oreo’s in white milk makes the guilt taste better.
I think we could avoid all this mess if Cynn would just tell Jeff, Dan, Karl (and everyone else) what they should post about. Half the time, it appears the complaint is the subject matter that get Cynn’s panties in a twist.
what Barack said
I figure Cynn wears thongs.
Twisted butt floss is the worst I’ve been told..
Obama isn’t an Oreo. It’s pretty obvious he scraped out all his white filling and filled himself with shit.
“#Comment by cynn on 7/14 @ 8:47 pm #
So this is a cookie thread. Nice.”
As an added bonus, it leaves cookies on your computer
One word: Jaffa cakes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_Cake
Love ’em love ’em love ’em.
I have a niece who flew in from Scotland and has a fresh supply.
MINE! ALL MINE I TELL YOU!
“Sometime me think what is love, and the me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up last cookie for you”
N. O’Brain, I clicked on that Wiki history of the Jaffa and there has been litigation.
Some argued the chocolate covering on the orangey jam and sponge made it a taxable cookie. The some were defeated and Jaffa’s are truely cake by force of law.
I suspect it also claims cookie-hood when it is to it’s advantage.
cynn, are we not supposed to laugh at stupid stuff…pompous self-serving pundits and dissembling pols…if we can’t mock john mclaughlin, kindly tell us who is approved for parody?
is race off the table? are there things that black people can only think and say and that white people cannot?
I think Cynn would rather nobody ever laugh. At all. Ever.
I’m going to have to end this conversation here.
MALLOMARS!
cynn is flavorless!
Oh, and I loved his work with the Mahavishnu Orchestra.
I’ll be happy to take all those trefoils off people’s hands. Crap shortbread goes really really well with the crap coffee in my office.
On Oreos, I’ll share a bit of knowledge gleaned long ago from The Brunching Shuttlecocks reader mail:
“If you poke a fork into the creamy middle of an oreo cookie before dunking it, you can use the fork to dunk the cookie. That way, you keep your hands dry and you dunk the whole cookie at once. Try it and see.”
Lore’s reply has stayed with me ’til this day: “This is one of those things, like TiVo and democracy, that you never really realize you need until you’ve experienced it.”
Millionaire’s shortbread. Otherwise, not much.
Jaffa! Kree!
Squid,
And I thought Homo sapiens was the tool user. I didn’t realise it was the decapod cephalopds.