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Déjà Vu: Obama the Delegator [Karl]

This morning’s New York Times carries a piece by Jeff Zeleny and Jim Rutenberg on Barack Obama’s emerging management style:

The skill will become more important should he win the presidency, and his style is getting added attention as the country absorbs the lessons of President Bush’s tenure in the Oval Office. Mr. Bush’s critics, including former aides, have portrayed him as too cloistered, too dependent on a small coterie of trusted aides, unable to distinguish between loyalty and competence, and insufficiently willing to adjust course in the face of events that do not unfold the way he expects.

So what does the NYT say of Obama’s emerging style?

Mr. Obama’s style so far is marked by an aversion to leaks and public drama and his selection of a small group of advisers who have exhibited discipline and loyalty in carrying out his priorities…

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He delegates many decisions, and virtually all tasks, to a core group that oversees a sprawling, yet centralized operation in his Chicago campaign headquarters…

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Most high-level gatherings involving Mr. Obama are held either in his kitchen or at an office away from campaign headquarters, and are expected to unfold in an orderly manner. Written agendas and concise briefings are preferred.

He does not stir dissent simply for dissent’s sake, but often employs a Socratic method of discussion, where aides put ideas forward for him to accept or reject. Advisers described his meetings as “un-Clintonesque,” a reference to the often meandering, if engrossing, policy discussions Bill Clinton presided over when he was president…

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If a presidential campaign is intended to be a test-run for the presidency, his chief priorities are the words in his speeches, messages in his television advertising and policy pronouncements. On other matters, even if he disagrees, he often allows himself to be overruled.

Mr. Obama was not thrilled with a campaign slogan, “Change We Can Believe In,” that was unveiled last September. And he did not initially like the campaign’s blue and white logo — intended to appear like a horizon, symbolizing hope and opportunity — saying he found it too polished and corporate.

“He made his concern clear, but said, ‘We have bigger fish to fry here,’ ” recalled David Axelrod, the campaign’s chief strategist who was behind the logo’s design.

Given that the paper starts by mentioning the lessons — or criticisms — of President Bush’s management style in the Oval Office, it is almost self-parody of the paper’s bias that it then glosses over Obama’s aversion to leaks and his small circle of advisers.  The NYT was not shy about emphasizing the same things about Bush’s 2000 campaign.  The paper was also sniffy about Bush’s penchant for delegation, questioning whether that style would work in such divided times.  The un-Clintonesque meetings, the focus on the contents of his speeches and ads, even the telling logo anecdote — they’re all there in the NYT’s campaign reports on the 2000 campaign.

In short, Obama seems to be developing a management style similar to that of George W. Bush’s winning 2000 campaign.  But the New York Times seems to be hoping no one will notice.

62 Replies to “Déjà Vu: Obama the Delegator [Karl]”

  1. nishizonoshinji says:

    you see what you want to see, Karl.
    this is something differernt.
    go off and lie in the ground, republican dinosaurs, and make oil for the next generation.
    ;)

  2. serr8d says:

    My favorite quote about teh ageing:

    “Don’t pick a fight with an old man, because he will kill you.” (Steinbeck I think…)

    That’s been truth since humans started hanging around together, living in the same old caves until over the centuries the cave floors would rise because of the trash buildup.

    Now we humans are still living and dying. And now, old men are ridiculed for their looks instead of listened to for their wisdom.

    But, everyone will eventually wind up in the same place, raising the floors for whatever comes along next.

    Unless of course Nishi’s nanobot revolution will make us all live forever…

    Is that why you cling to only science as savior, Nishi, and bash those who would have wider beliefs, because you’ve a massive fear in knowing that you are gonna age and die just like everyone else?

  3. Darleen says:

    this is something differernt. (sic)

    and nishi sneers at people of faith.

    The child was born without the irony gene. I wonder if replacing it is on her Science Godhead agenda.

  4. Mikey NTH says:

    It may be part of it serr8d.
    Certainly she could use all the time she can get to accumulate some wisdom.

    Karl, that was interesting.

  5. ThomasD says:

    Or perhaps the NYT reporter didn’t do any actual research for the article. Instead merely going back to the old article about candidate Bush and ‘mad-libbing’ the necessary identifiers. But the NYT is known for it’s high journalistic standards, so I kinda doubt that.

  6. Carin -BONC says:

    Just because you dinosaurs (white collar Rethugs) don’t get the nuanced difference between Bushitler and O!™ doesn’t mean it isn’t there.

  7. JD says:

    By calling Baracky something different, and something new, it seems that they believe if they say it long enough, and often enough, it might come true.

  8. McGehee says:

    this is something differernt.

    Sure it is.

  9. Log Cabin says:

    This is something different, all right…
    Something we have not had in the White House before. The Russians, on the other hand, had a few people like Obama early last century. You know, those guys that eventually replaced the Romanovs?

    Change you can believe in!

  10. SarahW says:

    I’m going with the re-made dress theory.
    News readers don’t mind being taken in, if the fabric looks decent.

  11. happyfeet says:

    Like most presidential candidates lightweight community organizers who leverage a book deal and a convention speech into a presidential campaign with the assistance of NPR and other propaganda organs, Mr. Obama is developing his executive skills on the fly…

  12. Karl says:

    nishi:

    this is something differernt.

    If you mean an assertion untouched by argument on your part, yes.

  13. geoffb says:

    Ah, Obama is the poorly done remake.
    “Who’s that comin’ Obam the Delegator”

  14. Rob Crawford says:

    If you mean an assertion untouched by argument on your part, yes.

    I thought that was the same-old same-old from her? No argument, just assertions.

    As for Obama — he’s a lightweight. Hopefully that’ll become clear to everyone before election day.

  15. Great Mencken's Ghost says:

    Actually, that’s more like Nixon’s old style…

  16. alppuccino says:

    I got this. Are you sitting down? I’m with nishi. This is something different:

    This the NYT fabricating the story that Obama delegates when, in fact, he is just somebody’s boy and he is the one being delegated to on an hourly basis.

    “Hi Barack. It’s your delegator. Don’t do the town hall meetings with McCain. We haven’t perfected the earpiece yet. Oh and my shirts? I told you to tell them “no starch”. Take them back ok?”

  17. cranky-d says:

    No one has said it yet, so I will.

    RACIST!!!

  18. markg8 says:

    Obama seems to be developing a management style similar to that of George W. Bush’s winning 2000 campaign. But the New York Times seems to be hoping no one will notice.

    Well of course they’re hoping no one will notice what they write. That’s why they published it in the paper.

    Here’s some other brilliant insights for you. Winning campaigns don’t have much drama. There isn’t any reason for finger pointing or grumbling to the press. Winning campaigns usually are disciplined operations.

    It’s apparent both Bush and Obama like campaigning. My guess if they’d lost they’d like it less. That has little to do with actual governing. They’re two different jobs.

    Both Bill Clinton and Obama are policy wonks. Both are intellectually curious and enjoy learning. Bush isn’t intellectually curious and thinks he knows enough to make his gut decisions work. Jimmy Carter micromanaged the WH, going as far as settling a tennis court schedule dispute himself. Obama doesn’t seem to have those problems.

  19. McGehee says:

    Well of course they’re hoping no one will notice what they write. That’s why they published it in the paper.

    That’s actually funnier without the sarcasm.

  20. I seems everyone is calling it in today. I don’t thing we’ve even had a denouncement yet today.

    Here’s a bit from Byron York’s new article (paper version, subscription required) on the Obamanator:

    When he left for law school, Obama wondered what he had accomplished as an organizer. He certainly had some achievements, but he did not — perhaps could not — concede that there might be something wrong with his approach to Chicago’s problems. Instead of questioning his own premises, he concluded that he simply needed more power to get the job done. So he made plans to run for political office. And in each successive office, he has concluded that he did not have enough power to get the job done, so now he is running for the most powerful office in the land.

    And what if he gets it? He’ll be the biggest, strongest organizer in the world. He’ll dazzle the country with his message of hope and possibility. But we shouldn’t expect much to actually get done.

  21. CArin -BONC says:

    Stupid sockpuppet.

  22. happyfeet says:

    Where this idea coming from that the Baracky campaign doesn’t have any drama? Baracky is a queenier drama queen than Paula Abdul even. Except for Paula likes Jewish people..

  23. McGehee says:

    And in each successive office, he has concluded that he did not have enough power to get the job done, so now he is running for the most powerful office in the land.

    When that doesn’t work, he’ll set his sights on the papacy.

  24. alppuccino says:

    Obama is only intellectually curious to the point of not needing to know how many states there are in the Union. Or whether Iran is a tiny country and not a grave threat, but definitely a grave threat when it’s politically expedient, but tiny like cuba. And he’s just curious enough to invent a new use for the breathalizer in certain asthma situations. In other words, he’s an idiot.

  25. Yeah, sure. Mister changenitude, King Change who brings it up in every speech didn’t like change as a campaign slogan. Sure.

  26. CArin -BONC says:

    Baracky is a queenier drama queen

    YEA! I can now denounce Happyfeet.

  27. Rob Crawford says:

    Bush isn’t intellectually curious…

    Uh-huh. *Sure* he isn’t.

    Somehow I get the feeling you define “intellectually curious” as “mouths the right liberal platitudes”.

  28. CArin -BONC says:

    “Intellectually curious” in this sense prolly means you listen to NPR and read the New York Times. Plus, you keep a copy of “Meditations” by Marcus Aurelius on your beside table.

  29. happyfeet says:

    I are denounced. But for real Baracky couldn’t have gone to that radical hatey church for twenty years if he didn’t like him some good drama. And also he married that woman who has conniptions about fruit. Never a dull moment I bet really. If only they made more money maybe they could get a bit more centered, but that’s why it’s kind of sobering to think that if Baracky got elected president he’d actually end up taking a pay cut. But at least they’d get a reprieve from that whole fruit thing.

  30. CArin -BONC says:

    Happy, you should be pleased to hear that I rescued a turtle yesterday. It was crossing the road, and we all know how that often turns out. We let it go by our lake. No nearby roads to cross by us.

  31. SarahW says:

    “he’ll set his sights on the papacy.”

    Baracky, be satisfied, now that you are pope. There’s nothing else that you can become.”

    “I have to think about that,” said theBaracky. He was not satisfied. His desires would not let him sleep. He kept thinking what she wanted to become next. Then the sun came up and the tides came in. “Aha,” He thought, as the sun streamed in the waffle-house. “Couldn’t I cause the sun to rise?” Then Hebecame very grim and said to Zombie Tim Russert, I want to become like God!
    Zombie Tim Russert, still mostly asleep, was so startled that he fell off his legs. “Oh, Baracky,” he said, “go on as you are and remain pope.”

    “No,” said Baracky, tearing open his bodice. “I will not be quiet. I can’t stand it when I see the sun and the moon coming up, and the ocean levels, and I can’t cause them to rise or stop rising. I want to become like God!”

    “Oh, Baracky,” said theZombie Russert. “America can’t do that. It can make you emperor and pope, but it can’t do that.”

    But Baracky went to America, and the law blogs, and Dkos, and asked to be made God.

    BAZAAAAP!

    And he was back sitting on a pile of Community Organizer Leaflets.

    The end.

  32. SarahW says:

    Addendum:

    A pile of community organizer leaflets in Kenya. And a tiger jumped out and ate his waffle.

  33. N. O'Brain says:

    “#

    Comment by McGehee on 6/16 @ 10:23 am #

    And in each successive office, he has concluded that he did not have enough power to get the job done, so now he is running for the most powerful office in the land.

    When that doesn’t work, he’ll set his sights on the papacy.”

    Then he changes his name to Ming The Merciless and tries to conquer the universe.

  34. happyfeet says:

    Carin, you’re a beautiful person I think. I looked for turtles in New Jersey but no luck. I did see a deer and some fishes and a dragonfly though, so I’m pretty sated on the nature thing for awhile.

  35. JD says:

    markg8 is a fun troll.

  36. MayBee says:

    Both Bill Clinton and Obama are policy wonks.

    Is there some evidence somewhere that Obama is a policy wonk?

  37. alppuccino says:

    I was on the bike path and came upon a snapping turtle as big as a yugo (2-door) laying its eggs. It was then going to bury the eggs and leave them.

    I reported the turtle to Family Services.

    And when I say “came upon”, of course, I mean “happened upon”. I’VE NEVER SEEN THAT TURTLE BEFORE IN MY LIFE!

  38. happyfeet says:

    It says he’s a wonk as long as nothing’s on ESPN. What a shallow, tivoless man he must be.

  39. SarahW says:

    I “saved” a lot of box turtles when I was a kid. They always seemed to be able to climb out of the tub and get out the french doors overnight. Sucker feet, I guess.

  40. happyfeet says:

    Oh. Snapping turtles are pretty terrifying creatures, what with all the snapping and all. I haven’t gotten bit yet by my little sliders, cause we have a pretty good relationship, but it’s not something I worry about really. I think nishi may have had a snapper at one point. That’s really brave I think.

  41. alppuccino says:

    french doors

    elitist

  42. alppuccino says:

    I think nishi may have had a snapper at one point.

    Probably still does.

    happy, I know you’re not fond of golf, but you teed that one up ever so nicely. Thank you.

  43. CArin -BONC says:

    Last year, when we first move out here (to the country, if you will) we found TONS Of baby snapping turtles. They were kinda cute. Really small.

  44. SarahW says:

    That’s ok Al, your teenage son probably put it there on the shore.

    Some amateur fisherman hauled out a snapper of startling proportions from the UR lake, once. It was about big enough to ride on. The hapless fisherman left it on the bridge and it hissed as you walked by and it was upside down. It was like that blade runner test. It was like the Kitty Genovese of turtles. I guess I’m not a replicant because after two circles around the lake, I figured I better summon one of those guys who drive around on golf carts. I felt inhumane for some days after that.

  45. Karl says:

    Bush isn’t intellectually curious

    Reknowned historians like Andrew Roberts and Paul Johnson would disagree, as would Kathleen Parker.

    Of course, to discover that, you might have to be intellectually curious yourself.

  46. nishizonoshinji says:

    Unless of course Nishi’s nanobot revolution will make us all live forever…

    and still look young ;)

  47. nishizonoshinji says:

    i have a snapping turtle.
    i got him out of the water jump at high prarie horse park.
    his name is gamera.

  48. nishizonoshinji says:

    he is not a tame turtle, like feets’ turtles.

  49. alppuccino says:

    Karl,

    Reading books has nothing to do with intelligence. Writing books is where the smartness is. Sheesh!

  50. Mitch says:

    Karl, Andrew Roberts is a tool. Jacob Weisberg’s review of his latest book and its massive errors is here http://www.slate.com/id/2162837/

    Roberts is the Mike Brown of history and accuracy. It should trouble, well…anyone, that the President loves a book written by a proponent of the “White Man’s Burden.”

    I denounce myself for looking this up

  51. Rob Crawford says:

    A pile of community organizer leaflets in Kenya. And a tiger jumped out and ate his waffle.

    A tiger? In Africa?

  52. Rob Crawford says:

    Roberts is the Mike Brown of history and accuracy. It should trouble, well…anyone, that the President loves a book written by a proponent of the “White Man’s Burden.”

    Depends on what you mean by that phrase. Do you mean the popular interpretation of it, or do you mean it the way Kipling intended?

  53. Mitch says:

    How about: the way Andrew Roberts sees it, i.e. the English Empire should be replaced by an American one. Personally, I’m not a huge fan of Rhodesia or Imperialism, but Mr.Roberts is

  54. Plus, you keep a copy of “Meditations” by Marcus Aurelius on your beside table.

    …unread.

    Ace of Spades points out that even as a community organizer Obama didn’t accomplish much. That’s somewhat acceptable in a volunteer activist, but as a president? That’s not delegating. It’s sloth and inability.

  55. SarahW says:

    Rob Crawford – the tiger was an oblique reference to a popular ear-worm tune about Lions and Tigers Only in Kenya ( by the same guy who did “badger badger”.

  56. SarahW says:

    Japanese kids sing it on Youtube.

    There is a nifty live-action version.

  57. SarahW says:

    I like the part with the little knife and fork

  58. SarahW says:

    And in fact, there are tigers in Kenya, in the zoos at both Mombasa and Nairobi.

    The Bazzzap! must have been right into the middle of a pile of leaflets at the Monbasa zoo, center of Community organizers. The tiger felt insulted and taunted, and bounded up, and Obama-nom’d a waffle lunch

  59. SarahW says:

    Fixed live-action Kenya link – had an extra bit in there.

  60. gawd, B Moe, just cause a lot of his supporters like dudes that look good on t-shirts, you gotta get all judgmental. a body can’t forgive mass murder because of teh prettiness?

  61. Rusty says:

    Comment by Log Cabin on 6/16 @ 7:47 am #

    Change you can believe in! Or else!

    There. That’s better

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