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1. Comment by dre on 6/5 @ 6:09 pm #

   Regardless of whether the tape, DVD, or cassette exists, having listen to Mrs. O! it easy to believe she is capable of uttering such a tirade. That’s a problem.

2. Comment by sashal on 6/5 @ 6:37 pm #

   about that evolving position on Iran
   here:http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/281249,CST-NWS-OBAMA03.article

3. Comment by Mikey NTH on 6/5 @ 6:44 pm #

   How many business hours?
   *rolls eyes*

4. Comment by Masui on 6/5 @ 6:46 pm #

   dre: That’s a problem.

   AhSo. The problem is with you and your way of thinking. It’s simple.

5. Comment by thor on 6/5 @ 6:49 pm #

   June 05, 2008
   Categories: Barack Obama
   Obama denies a rumor and questions the question

   Sen. Barack Obama on Thursday batted down rumors circulating on the Internet and mentioned on some cable news shows of the existence of a video of his wife using a derogatory term for white people, and criticized a reporter for asking him about the rumor, which has not a shred of evidence to support it.

   “We have seen this before. There is dirt and lies that are circulated in e-mails and they pump them out long enough until finally you, a mainstream reporter, asks me about it,” Obama said to the McClatchy reporter during a press conference aboard his campaign plane. “That gives legs to the story. If somebody has evidence that myself or Michelle or anybody has said something inappropriate, let them do it.”

   Asked whether he knew it not to be true, Obama said he had answered the question.

   “Frankly, my hope is people don’t play this game,” Obama said. “It is a destructive aspect of our politics. Simply because something appears in an e-mail, that should lend it no more credence than if you heard it on the corner. Presumably the job of the press is to not to go around and spread scurrilous rumors like this until there is actually anything, an iota, of substance or evidence that would substantiate it.”

   So was it even acceptable to ask the question?

   Before Obama could answer, communications director Robert Gibbs interjected: “You just did.”

   “That is my point,” Obama said. “I just think people have to think about it before they ask.”

   NOTE: Obama’s clearly right that this is how stories for which there’s no evidence at all make it into the public eye. So I’m not linking or detailing the rumor, since there’s just zero credible evidence for it. This is probably a silly old media vestige, of course; Google has no such standards. And Obama’s discussion of it is, more broadly, news: As he acknowledged yesterday, beating back whisper campaigns is perhaps the central challenge his campaign faces.

   http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_denies_a_rumor_and_questions_the_question.html

6. Comment by sashal on 6/5 @ 6:52 pm #

   I think, Karl , you may like to read this:
   http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/03/obamas_aipac_speech_text_as_pr.html.
   Do you think this may change your position on Obama’s views evolution on Iran?

7. Comment by maggie katzen on 6/5 @ 7:33 pm #

   Asked whether he knew it not to be true, Obama said he had answered the question.

   “Frankly, my hope is people don’t play this game,” Obama said. “It is a destructive aspect of our politics. Simply because something appears in an e-mail, that should lend it no more credence than if you heard it on the corner. Presumably the job of the press is to not to go around and spread scurrilous rumors like this until there is actually anything, an iota, of substance or evidence that would substantiate it.”

   I don’t see a “no” anywhere in there. ;D

8. Comment by Karl on 6/5 @ 7:34 pm #

   sashal,

   O! has said the stuff he said to AIPAC before.

   Can you tell me if he means it today? How about tomorrow?

9. Comment by sashal on 6/5 @ 7:42 pm #

   yes, he means it.
   And AIPAC thinks too…
   Any doubts that he does not mean it?
   Can we judge any presidential candidate by the same standard?
   If the mean, what they repeatedly say

10. Comment by Karl on 6/5 @ 7:50 pm #

    sashal,

    Of course there are reasons to doubt he means it. Lieberman laid them out at AIPAC. O!s voting record and his other recent statements run to the contrary. He surrounds himself with advisers who think otherwise. The list goes on and on.

    Put another way, the text of the Soviet Constitution was nifty; the Soviet reality wasn’t.

11. Comment by Rob Crawford on 6/5 @ 7:59 pm #

    Any doubts that he does not mean it?
    Can we judge any presidential candidate by the same standard?
    If the mean, what they repeatedly say

    So you believe what someone says over what they do.

12. Comment by sashal on 6/5 @ 8:04 pm #

    it was nifty, sure , but remember how the text started ?
    That communist party of the Soviet Union is one and only , people’s guiding star(approx translation).
    the rest was just decoration for that unilateral authoritarian premise.

13. Comment by sashal on 6/5 @ 8:05 pm #

    Look who is talking, Rob.
    Did you vote for Bush in 2000?

14. Comment by Lisa on 6/5 @ 8:10 pm #

    One of the comments on Reason:

    …and then, when you develop your film, you see a picture of Michelle Obama with your toothbrush in her ass.

    Keep it up, jokers.

    LMFAO!!!!

15. Comment by maggie katzen on 6/5 @ 8:22 pm #

    that is hilarious, Lisa.

16. Comment by SteveG on 6/5 @ 9:47 pm #

    Yeah but you gotta admit that Ms. Obama gets that look on her face that says she forgot who’s toothbrush was who’s and evidently put her own in there by mistake.

17. Comment by SteveG on 6/5 @ 10:40 pm #

    OK maybe it should by whose…. either way, the person that looks like she just tasted butt is Michelle

18. Comment by Topsecretk9 on 6/5 @ 10:57 pm #

    I noticed in the Timeline that Reason forgot the most priceless Gem of May 17th – where Larry claims his CIA buddy has SEEN the tape (along with a lawyer) and he invents the sinister GOP billionaire who wants to buy for a million – no one’s found the billionaire either — pasted for entertainment – not gonna link the lug head

    Here’s the news short and sweet–if you have a copy of the Michelle Obama video, in which she is lambasting white people (four different sources say she uses “whitey” as an epithet) at Jeremiah Wright’s church, then there is an ultra conservative Republican billionaire who wants to pay your $1 million dollars for the tape. Why? He hates John McCain. Conservative Republicans refer to John McCain as a Marxist and a sell out (and those are the nice comments). The billionaire in question believes Barack is a very weak candidate and, if he gets the Democratic nod, then McCain will surely be President. Especially after the October “surprise” of Michelle Obama railing against whitey. The billionaire wants to preempt McCain and Rove and has put the word out thru conservative networks that there is a $1 million dollar bounty for the person or persons who produce the tape.

    I got this info courtesy of a major Republican operative. I am told that Karl Rove and his political allies control the tape where Michelle Obama has a Stokely Carmichael moment of sorts. Rove and company reportedly are showing the tape to big money Republicans to loosen up their wallets and get new money to fund independent expenditure groups. That’s why news of this is starting to leak out. The money is being raised for 527 groups that will target the Democrats in the fall.

    A retired CIA buddy is friends with a lawyer who saw the tape. This lawyer, who has a stellar reputation for being very low-key, described the video clip of Michelle’s anti-white rant as, “stunning.” My guess is that the billionaire who detests John McCain is probably going to find someone who will comes up with the tape. So there you have it, someone is looking for “Whitey.” If they find it they get a pay day. If not, you will have to wait till October to watch it.

19. Comment by Topsecretk9 on 6/5 @ 11:11 pm #

    Comment by thor on 6/5 @ 6:49 pm #

    Don’t read Scary Johnson’s interpretation of that exchange. He said it’s proof there is a tape because Obama refused to deny there was.

20. Comment by daleyrocks on 6/6 @ 12:25 am #

    TSK9 – Remind me again why anyone should believe anything Scary Larry has to say. Is he still trying to be Valerie Plame’s tampon?

21. Comment by Topsecretk9 on 6/6 @ 1:00 am #

    Daley

    You want to know the funniest thing about Larry’s Siamese twin – Joe that made him so disillusioned with his beloved GOP?

    The McCain had a black baby rumor campaign

    He helpfully spent like 85 pages gushing ove MccIn in his 89,283 page “memior” Politics of Joe Wilson Hair

    John McCain – despite all of his laudable millitary and government service to our country, including years as a prisioner of war in Veitnam– simple did not to me seem to be the best Republican candidate. Bush’s rhetoric o compassionate consevativism appealed to me…after Bush’s poor showing in New Hampshire, he moved on to South Carolina where his campaign adopted some despicable tactics to defeat McCain. While Bush masquearded as his affiable self, promising to change the tone in Washington and restore dignity and honor to the White House, his underlings stared spreading rumors that McCain’s wife was a drug addict and they had a black baby.

    and it just goes on and on and on and on and on to describe what actually Larry did via done to McCain

22. Comment by BJTexs on 6/6 @ 5:03 am #

    Thor: I think Larry Johnson is a useless sack of putrid flesh and shouldn’t be counted as a reliable source as to the color of the sky. I also think that the rumors of this tape are bullpucky and a reporter asking a question of a presumtive nominee for the presidency should know better than to ask him a question about a “rumor” so completely without foundation.

    However…

    Obama’s answer is infuriating. He says the right things as far a slapping the reporter down for even asking the question and framing the inquiry as a “what’s wrong with politics” message. The one thing he leaves out (and it appears to be a conscious decision) is a staement like “oh, and by the way this rumor is patently and completely false. There is no basis for it and it is the worse sort of lie and this will be the last time I address it.”

    Why not? Why does he allow this thing to sit in the corner like a moldy bagel when, once he was asked, he should have squashed it like a bug? Oftentimes I find Obama too cool and too “prepared” for his own good. No one (other than Larry Johnson) would blame him if he flashed a little anger at the absurdity and unfairness of this “rumor.” By not explicitly denying the existance of the tape he leaves the door ajar with the tweinkling of an idea that he’s hedging his bets.

23. Comment by TheGeezer on 6/6 @ 6:28 am #

    it was nifty, sure , but remember how the text started ?
    That communist party of the Soviet Union is one and only , people’s guiding star(approx translation).
    the rest was just decoration for that unilateral authoritarian premise.
    /
    

    That pretty much summarizes what I believe are and will be Obama’s triangulations.

24. Comment by Slartibartfast on 6/6 @ 9:22 am #

    Larry Johnson worked for the CIA for four years, and has been milking that four years for nearly two decades. Either he’s not as dumb as he looks, or he’s found a bunch of dumb people to believe in him. I’m going with the latter.

25. Comment by daleyrocks on 6/6 @ 10:02 am #

    TSK9 – How can you believe anything somebody who has haircuts as bad as Larry Johnson says, when you get right down to the substance of the matter. The man should be ashamed. I think the only TV gig he can get any more is Olberdouche.

26. Comment by thor on 6/6 @ 10:33 am #

    #

    Comment by BJTexs on 6/6 @ 5:03 am #

    Thor: I think Larry Johnson is a useless sack of putrid flesh and shouldn’t be counted as a reliable source as to the color of the sky. I also think that the rumors of this tape are bullpucky and a reporter asking a question of a presumtive nominee for the presidency should know better than to ask him a question about a “rumor” so completely without foundation.

    However…

    Obama’s answer is infuriating. He says the right things as far a slapping the reporter down for even asking the question and framing the inquiry as a “what’s wrong with politics” message. The one thing he leaves out (and it appears to be a conscious decision) is a staement like “oh, and by the way this rumor is patently and completely false. There is no basis for it and it is the worse sort of lie and this will be the last time I address it.”

    Why not? Why does he allow this thing to sit in the corner like a moldy bagel when, once he was asked, he should have squashed it like a bug? Oftentimes I find Obama too cool and too “prepared” for his own good. No one (other than Larry Johnson) would blame him if he flashed a little anger at the absurdity and unfairness of this “rumor.” By not explicitly denying the existance of the tape he leaves the door ajar with the tweinkling of an idea that he’s hedging his bets.

    Maybe the door’s ajar if the jar’s a door! (I love that line enough to inject it whenever possible)

    I can’t answer for Barack Obama’s framing of answers. True, he’s unusually cool and collected most of the time. I like his style, others don’t. Maybe it’s just taste.

27. Comment by Karl on 6/6 @ 10:43 am #

    Or it could be sheer gullibility.

    Anyway, Geraghty discovers this tape thing is the plot of a novel.

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