GOP 2008: rEVOLution in Reno [Karl]

	Return to Protein Wisdom homepage « Tales of Hystery and Invagination [Dan Collins] \| Home \| The second coming of Jeremiah Wright [Karl] » April 28, 2008 GOP 2008: rEVOLution in Reno [Karl] The campaign of presumptive presidential nominee John McCain continues to inspire supporters… of Ron Paul: RENO, Nev. (AP) Ã¢â‚¬â€ Outmaneuvered by raucous Ron Paul supporters, Nevada Republican Party leaders abruptly shut down their state convention and now must resume the event to complete a list of 31 delegates to the GOP national convention. Outnumbered supporters of expected Republican presidential nominee John McCain faced off Saturday against well-organized Paul supporters. A large share of the more than 1,300 state convention delegates enabled Paul supporters to get a rule change positioning them for more national convention delegate slots than expected. There have been similar scenes playing out in Alaska, Florida, Missouri and Minnesota, Texas and Washington.Ã‚Â The Politico notes the Paulians are being rather modest: While theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll likely be stymied from having much impact on the platform, Paul supporters are hopeful their guy will secure a speaking slot Ã¢â‚¬â€ and hint that they may stage a visible distraction to McCain and the GOP if their request is not fulfilled. McCain will deserve it if he unable to control the state conventions or uninterested in doing so.Ã‚Â The establishment media will flock to any sign of controversy. Posted by Karl @ 5:30 am \| Trackback 38 Comments ::: Post a comment » Comment by nishizonoshinji on 4/28 @ 5:32 am # that is exactly wat ruffini said was going to happen. Comment by thor on 4/28 @ 5:57 am # The establishment media will flock to any sign of controversy. Karl, I now christen thee persona grata to the establishment media by rote of flocking. Comment by Lucy on 4/28 @ 6:01 am # Saw the soft interview on PBS with Reverend Wright. This guy is a joke and the less we hear from him the better. The more he speaks the worse it will be for Obama. All the debates have been question and answer sessions - there’s no intelligent discussion. Doesn’t matter Dems or Republicans - a politician is a politician. They all have the Beltway out-of-touch mentality despite their protestations that they are for the common citizen. They could all CARE LESS about you and me - they are saying anything to get elected. Face it, Americans are uneducated, fat, unpatriotic and basically lazy. Take a walk around your local mall to see what a schlocky mess this country has turned into. Yikes! Comment by nishizonoshinji on 4/28 @ 6:35 am # Lucy dr. cochran said this in the chaos manor mailbag– If I assume that every one of Obama’s tax and spending proposals are enacted, and if I use Wayne’s Allard’s estimate of their cost , Allard being a conservative Republican from Colorado, a rough guess would be that it would increase the Federal take by about 10%: from 20% of GDP to 22%. Allard claimed that those proposals would cost 1.4 trillion over five years. Since this year’s budget is 3.1 trillion, the Feds are on course to spend 15.5 trillion over the next five years (assuming no spending increases under current or similar management - ha ha ha ha ha ha !). So more like a 9% increase in Federal spending. That also assumes that we don’t leave Iraq, which would save ~150 billion a year. For perspective, total US government spending (federal, state, and local) is about 32% of GDP: moving up to 34% is what we’re talking about. Max. For even more perspective, you might consider why Obama is getting more donations than anyone ever has: he has the hedge fund guys sending him the preponderance of their political donations, and that isn’t because they think he’s going to end capitalism. Of course they could be wrong. In fact, he’s going to do without federal funding in the general campaign. Those increases in taxes and spending might be a bad thing, but it wouldn’t make us a socialist state: certainly less so than anywhere in western Europe. i have wright-fatigue. my favorite foxnews is all wright alla time…i think i must switch to CNN fox just had jackie mason denouncing wright. lame. the poor guy cudn’t remember wat theatre he was playing in. :( Comment by nishizonoshinji on 4/28 @ 6:42 am # dr. pournelle states the real problem. Unfortunately, another tipping point is immigration. Ten Percent of all people born in Mexico live in the United States. There are now members of the Mexican congress who represent Mexicans in the United States. McCain wants “comprehensive reform” which means he isn’t concerned. On the other hand, he has pledged to secure the border before proposing comprehensive reform. At least he is thinking about the subject, and if he is a man of his word he is the only one of the three candidates who will do anything to stop the bleeding. For decades the US has spent more than it makes; for decades spending went up faster than income. We have built mountains of debt. Some of that was genuine investment; much of it was pure consumption. Of the candidates, which one is likely to find that disturbing? And which have significant obligations payable to our trade deficit partners? Does this matter? I have never said that I find prospects for the next few years very encouraging. All of our elites are concerned only with the right hand side of the Bell Curve, and give no thought to what can or should happen to the left; they simply don’t care, and none of the political rhetoric indicates any understanding of the major problem facing the republic: how to integrate all of our citizens into the economy so that they are, and know they are, valuable members of the community. If we can’t do that, there is little hope for the republic, and the bread and circuses politics of Obama and the Clintons become fairly inevitable. Or so it seems to me. unfortunately we are in the “pander phase” of the democratic run-off. neither obama or clinton can say boo about immigration without losing hispanic votes. they both have to be christian. they both have to pander to the autism parents. so does mccain have to be christian, have to pander to the autism parents….but he is still behind both of them in the poll averages. once barack gets the nom, he may come with an immigration position, or he may stay mum to help beat mccain with the hispanic vote. we are doing this to ourselves. :( Comment by nishizonoshinji on 4/28 @ 6:44 am # when dr. pournelle says left, he means the left side of the Bell curve. the IQ gap. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 4/28 @ 6:53 am # oh great. captain stupid says the Bell Curve is psuedoscience. IQ-baiting, without a doubt. hmmm…captain stupid versus dr. pournelle…..i wonder who will win? Comment by BJTexs TW/BP on 4/28 @ 6:54 am # In case you haven’t noticed, nishi, the one person doing his level best to keep the Reverend Wright in the sound bite crosshairs of the media whores is … Reverend Wright! What is a presidential candidate to do when his beloved “mentor” and “spiritual advisor” is doing all that he can to throw Obama under the bus to satisfy his own ego? I pick crying. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 4/28 @ 7:05 am # yup, i agree wright is an egomaniac. but captain stupid is….well….definitely on the leftside of the Bell Curve. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 4/28 @ 7:10 am # back on topic….ruffini is right. mccain has zero grassroots support. this will be a problem right up thru the convention. not just with paul, but with huckabee. can we agree handsomemormonguy is a nonstarter post the mormon polygamy ranch? Comment by JD on 4/28 @ 7:36 am # nishi - maybe the voices in your head can agree on something, but that does not mean the real world is willing to agree with you. Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/28 @ 7:47 am # Yawn. The nishidiot must be off her meds again. Comment by sashal on 4/28 @ 8:30 am # Face it, Americans are uneducated, fat, unpatriotic and basically lazy. Ouch. I hear about it from all the right/left angles. But from my personal experience, quite contrary, from the people I meet everyday that image is substantially better and more positive.. Comment by mojo on 4/28 @ 10:35 am # …and last time I checked, grass roots don’t get to vote. Comment by JHoward on 4/28 @ 11:38 am # McCain will deserve it if he unable to control the state conventions or uninterested in doing so. McCain supporters, despite the NV proceedings clearly designed to broker their candidate back into the majority, shouldn’t be “controlling” much of anything (just as Paulians surely cannot be given the right by the current political climate to do so either.) The few sanitized reports to trickle out of these proceedings naturally do not jive with eyewitness accounts — I know two delegates myself — although reading between media lines sheds light on what actually happened. In the big picture, it’s unlikely that Texas U.S. Rep. Ron Paul’s capturing of the majority of Nevada’s state convention Saturday will change McCain’s trajectory to the nomination. But the ability of Paul’s followers to push party leaders to abruptly recess the convention until an unknown date showed the disarray of the Republican establishment and a party largely without leadership, said Eric Herzik, a political science professor at the University of Nevada, Reno and a Republican. “The Nevada Republican Party was just ripe for this,” Herzik said. “Nevada doesn’t have any strong leadership. And now, you’ve got this very vocal and fervent minority group, and there’s nobody stepping up and saying ‘McCain’s our guy.’” Heh. Good old dissent-crushing. And crafting the message after trying to craft the outcome. Media politics, anyone? The establishment media will flock to any sign of controversy. The establishment media has all but ignored this inconvenient little event, at least concerning any objective reporting. Probably because there’s nobody stepping up and saying ‘McCain’s our guy’. Top NV Republicans broke a number of bylaws and then tried to shut down proceedings. Some delegates were virtually threatened. http://www.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/NEWS19/804280338/1232 Comment by Mo on 5/1 @ 10:19 pm # McCain didn’t even bother to show up at the Reno convention. After the debates, doddering old fool McCain is afraid to be in the same room with Paul. 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