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Dems 2008: Obama would bring years of foreign policy experience to the presidency [Karl]

Unfortunately, those years were before Barack Obama hit puberty.  Larry Rohter reports for the New York Times:

To counter opponents’ accusations that he lacks experience in foreign policy, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois often cites his ties to relatives in poor villages in Kenya and the years he spent growing up in Indonesia. Now he has added a new personal detail to that résumé: a trip to Pakistan while a college student.

NRO’s Jim Geraghty is among those who finds it odd that Obama failed to mention this, given that US policy toward Pakistan has been a part of the campaign.  It may be more surprising that Obama is claiming that spending a couple of weeks in Pakistan 27 years ago when he was 20 years old is some sort of foreign policy credential.

Then again, Obama foreign policy adviser Susan E. Rice told the NYT:

“At a time when our foreign policy and national security have so obviously suffered from a simplistic, black-and-white interpretation… [having] an American president who spent part of his formative years and young adulthood living in a poor country under a dictatorship brings an understanding of the complexity of things that others may not have. I’m not saying that official travels and Congressional delegations are without value, but there are limits to what you can glean from that.”

Rice is referring to the fact that Obama lived in Indonesia from 1967-71.  Obama is going to bring an understanding of the complexity of things that he gained between the ages of six and ten.

54 Replies to “Dems 2008: Obama would bring years of foreign policy experience to the presidency [Karl]”

  1. BumperStickerist says:

    I’m hopeful that McCain will, at some point, mention that he’s lived in a country other than the US two years longer than Obama has.

    I remain somewhat hopeful that the press will recognize that Hawai’i is not quite the same as “the rest of the US” when it comes to racial tolerance et cetera. Biracial marriage in Hawai’i in the early 60s was, presumably, more common and more accepted than biracial marriage in either Mississippi or Massachussetts in the early 60s.

  2. Dan Collins says:

    Yeah, BumperStickerist, but was it a dictatorship? HUH?

  3. sashal says:

    since first I heard it I think it was the most ridiculous argument for foreign policy experience ever.
    Obama should check stamps in my passport, may be he will appoint me his secretary of state?

  4. Saul Goode says:

    …not to mention also that his schooling during the time in Indonesia was in a mosque

  5. alppuccino says:

    …not to mention also that his schooling during the time in Indonesia was in a mosque

    Very very much not to mention. Bad to mention. Very bad.

  6. JD says:

    Saul and alpuccino are obviously Mosque-ists.

  7. alppuccino says:

    Saul and alpuccino are obviously Mosque-ists.

    ‘sall good. hee.

  8. Log Cabin says:

    Well, this is awesome news! I spent almost a year after high school bumming around Spain, southern France, and Italy with only a backpack. Even made it to Zurich and Munich a couple times.

    I should be President Obama’s Secretary of State!

  9. Matt, Esq. says:

    Paris Hilton is named after a city in France- perhaps she could be ambassador to France ?

  10. […] of my best friends are Muslims/foreigners/poor” when he cite his “experience”. To counter opponents’ accusations that he lacks experience in foreign policy, Senator Barack […]

  11. Karl says:

    Paris Hilton is named after a city in France- perhaps she could be ambassador to France ?

    Technically, she’s named after a hotel in France. ;-)

  12. psycho... says:

    His “relatives in poor villages in Kenya” are the local boss-men and their harems, and the fucking prime minister.

    They’re “in poor villages” like the guards were “in concentration camps.”

  13. daleyrocks says:

    I like German food. I traveled there and studied the language in high school. I also drank a boatload of beer. I think that makes me qualified too.

    Ich bin ein Frankfurter.

  14. McGehee says:

    I’ve eaten bratwurst, pizza, enchiladas, and Kung Pao chicken, and I’ve drunk French wine.

    Not all at the same time, though, so maybe I’m not qualified after all.

  15. Squid says:

    Waitaminnit — Obama travelled to Pakistan as a young man?! Does nobody understand what that means? Why isn’t this guy on TSA’s no-fly list?

  16. kelly says:

    I lived in Germany between the ages of six to ten. Spent a little time traveling through Austria, Switzerland, and Italy as well…with my parents. Hey, I’m just as qualified to be prez as BarryO.

    What?

    No, I’m white. Does that mean I’m disqualified?

  17. Cowboy says:

    I spent those formative years in Missoula, MT. Could I be Head of the Bureau of Land Management, please?

    When I was seven, I kissed a neighbor girl. She was a Blackfoot Indiana. BIA, at least.

  18. Rob Crawford says:

    I spent those formative years in Missoula, MT. Could I be Head of the Bureau of Land Management, please?

    Spent my first eightteen on a farm. Can I be Sec. of Agriculture?

  19. Education Guy says:

    I attended the first grade multiple times. Can I be Sec. of Education?

  20. Jeffersonian says:

    I have a car. Sec-Trans, here I come.

  21. JD says:

    My wife and daughter are asian. I am qualified to be the ambassador to VietNam, China, and Japan. NorKo – No thanks.

  22. Karl says:

    I lived in a house. Now I live in a city. Pencil me in for HUD.

  23. Education Guy says:

    I lived in a house. Now I live in a city.

    With a little diet and exercise you should be small enough to fit in the house again in no time. Obesity is a national epidemic.

  24. Karl says:

    Ed Guy,

    Are you switching from Dept of Ed to HHS?

  25. Education Guy says:

    I’d offer to run both, but I merely want to thrive. Someone else can have that piece of pie. How about nishi?

  26. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Can I be in charge of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms?

    Let’s just say that their mission statement would be modified somewhat.

  27. MayBee says:

    Obviously, I think living abroad can be a valuable life experience. But why in the world would he try to elevate it? That might work for a college application, but come on.

    Having said that, I want to be Ambassador to Bali.

  28. alppuccino says:

    I once smoked a huge doobie while I was home from school, battling a nasty infection.

    I’m interviewing for Joint Chief of Staff.

  29. BJTexs TW/BP says:

    In college, I briefly dated a French girl from Paris.

    Please, oh please, do not make me Ambassador to France.

  30. Obama Says Real-Life Experience Trumps Rivals

  31. Matt, Esq. says:

    JD, I also want to point out the fact that your wife and child are asian may actually be evidence that you are a non-racist. I recognize considering this site’s posters, that is highly unlikely but as I am constantly reminding other people, there are other races besides black to discriminate against and the fact that one does not discriminate against persons of all different races may mean something. I don’t know what. Obama’s wife could probably tell me.

  32. Noah D says:

    “Can I be in charge of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms?

    Let’s just say that their mission statement would be modified somewhat.”

    Remember: Convenience store, not Federal Bureau.

  33. Daryl Herbert says:

    Time in Pakistan? Did he spend it in a Madrassa???

  34. William says:

    I understand that while living in Hawaii he enjoyed looking up into the night sky to enjoy the stars on clear nights. Wouldn’t that qualify him for running NASA?

  35. BJTexs TW/BP says:

    My boss considers me completely useless at work and depends upon me for nothing.

    I’m applying to be Obama’s Vice-President.

  36. J. Peden says:

    Well, 75% of my best male friends are Jooooos. So I guess I know where I’m elected to go.

  37. Pablo says:

    Well, 75% of my best male friends are Jooooos. So I guess I know where I’m elected to go.

    Oh, so you’re just going to run the whole damned country as their proxy, are you?

    I think that puts me in line for CIA chief.

  38. Enoch_Root says:

    Pablo – brilliant!

    I lived in Mexico for a spell. I like their food. I know how to swim pretty good. If’n none of you mind, could I put in for INS Chief? I am a US Citizen… not that that matters.

  39. Enoch_Root says:

    Alternatively – I once porked a whore in vegas. Is that vacancy in NY still open?

  40. Dan Collins says:

    Just to watch her die.

  41. kelly says:

    When I hear that lonesome whistle, I hang my head and cry.

  42. JD says:

    Matt Esq – I may have married her, but that was just a ruse so I could subjugate and oppress her, and punish her with babies.

  43. Bill says:

    Is it true that when he was schooled at his Indonesian madrassa he was told that “fruit juice” were gay Zionists?

  44. MC says:

    There were certainly some object lessons for O to have learned in his early foreign policy experience…

    From “Dreams from My Father”:

    …Like how to deal with beggars. They seemed to be everywhere, a gallery of ills—men, women, children, in tattered clothing matted with dirt, some without arms, others without feet, victims of scurvy or polio or leprosy walking on their hands or rolling down the crowded sidewalks in jerry-built carts, their legs twisted behind them like contortionists’. At first, I watched my mother give over her money to anyone who stopped at our door or stretched out an arm as we passed on the streets. Later, when it became clear that the tide of pain was endless, she gave more selectively, learning to calibrate the levels of misery. Lolo thought her moral calculations endearing but silly, and whenever he caught me following her example with the few coins in my possession, he would raise his eyebrows and take me aside. “How much money do you have?” he would ask. I’d empty my pocket. “Thirty rupiah.” “How many beggars are there on the street?” I tried to imagine the number that had come by the house in the last week. “You see?” he said, once it was clear I’d lost count. “Better to save your money and make sure you don’t end up on the street yourself.”…

    One lesson might be, given such witness to conditions in Indonesia, could one ever assert that any comparative in America could be construed as poverty? Another might be, from a worldly step-father, of the futility of wealth redistribution.

    Apparently his vast experience of youth failed to actually deliver education to him, even in the self-proclaimed lessons placed before him.

  45. Scott says:

    By those standards, I guess I qualify as a gynocologist… heh heh heh

  46. Enoch_Root says:

    One lesson might be, given such witness to conditions in Indonesia, could one ever assert that any comparative in America could be construed as poverty?

    If poverty is relative… then I would say from Obama’s perspective 95% of the US is in poverty. When he was in Indo, of course, he was not so blessed… because this is a racist nation… I mean, always keeping the Blacks down… you know, teh Man.

    Another might be, from a worldly step-father, of the futility of wealth redistribution.

    In terms of this one, seems to me he is trying to rebel against his not-really-my-daddy. Instead of taking his step-dad’s advice… of course, like any other liberal, he figures he knows better. sorry, he figures that human nature has nothing to do with it.

  47. Ric Locke says:

    Hey, I got crosswise with the IRS once and survived :-) and I can count money in English and Spanish. I wanna be Treasury, and I promise to give SBP my full support in his New Vision for the BATF. Convenience store, Ha! Look out, Cabelas!

    Regards,
    Ric

  48. B Moe says:

    It may be more surprising that Obama is claiming that spending a couple of weeks in Pakistan 27 years ago when he was 20 years old is some sort of foreign policy credential.

    What does it say about their target audience that they even consider that as a valid selling point? That is precisely what drove me from the Democrat Party, double digits all the way down.

  49. MC says:

    ER, Obama claims to have been mostly instructed by his stepfather while in Indonesia, but, as you underscore my points, it didn’t stick.

  50. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    . I wanna be Treasury, and I promise to give SBP my full support in his New Vision for the BATF. Convenience store, Ha!

    Actually, I had in mind something closer to gummint cheese. A whole new meaning for “shall issue”.

    Heh.

  51. Ric Locke says:

    #50 SBP: one word: quota.

    Regards,
    Ric

  52. Cowboy says:

    Dreams from My Father”

    Well, I knew that snake was my old sweet dad, from a worn out picture that my mother had.”

  53. J. Peden says:

    At first, I watched my mother give over her money to anyone who stopped at our door or stretched out an arm as we passed on the streets. Later, she realized she had also managed to finally solve the transcendent problem facing all real Humans: “who is going to feed the bed bugs?”. Me.

  54. Pat in Colorado says:

    I get gas sometimes. I could be Secretary of Energy.

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