You stay classy, Associated Press:
He engaged in a lengthy feud with liberal Ed Asner during the latter’s tenure as president of the Screen Actors Guild. His latter-day activism almost overshadowed his achievements as an actor, which were considerable.
Left unmentioned is the subject of the feud, which was Asner’s desire to use SAG as a platform to support the spread of communism in Central America. Heston’s anti-communism was a part of his opposition to McCarthyism and racial segregation. His latter-day activism — pro-Second Amendment, anti-political correctness and anti-racial preferences — reflected a belief in individual rights that was consistent with his earlier-day activism. What the anonymous AP author cannot stand is that Heston changed his party affiliation, though (as with Ronald Reagan) this was more a case of the party leaving Heston.
R.I.P., Mr. Heston.ÂÂ
He was a far greater and more gracious person than the AP staff tasked with writing his obituary.
DAMN DIRTY APES!!!
Yes, Karl. That’s why I had this link up a few days ago, a photo of Heston at a Civil Rights March in 1963.
His latter-day activism almost overshadowed his achievements as an actor, which were considerable.
Sean Penn? Chief Robert Redfordman? Fonda Peters*?
*Mad Magazine’s take on Fonda after Barbarella.
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Comment by J. Peden on 4/6 @ 6:52 am #
His latter-day activism almost overshadowed his achievements as an actor, which were considerable.
Sean Penn? Chief Robert Redfordman? Fonda Peters*?
*Mad Magazine’s take on Fonda after Barbarella.
ummmm… what? Is this a poorly articulated jab at Mr. Heston or just another example of the reliable and newsworthy sources of AP journalists information?
I think that statement about Heston is fair, actually. I’m in my early thirties, and all I really know about Heston is that he was in Planet of The Apes, and that he was the spokesperson for the NRA. I am deeply in his debt for both efforts, so I see no insult in saying his activism overshadowed his activism. Were it not true, I wouldn’t have seen obits for him on every right wing blog I’ve looked at this morning. As for the feud with Ed Asner, why would they need to go into the context? Who cares about FAG…er…SAG?
RIP Heston — Heaven is a must-issue state!
..his activism overshadowed his acting…
Occasionally I meet an honest conservative. Thank you, Chairman Me! (except for the religious dishonesty.)
Now, Karl, on the other hand. If you think raping nuns and killing them is good counter insurgency practice in Central America and that Communism is a real threat (even back in the ’80s) ah, I’d say you’re misinformed…..or just like Charlton, perverse. With 20+K ppl’s a year in USA dieing due to a perverse craze for guns and a belief that guns mean freedom (again Central America is a model for that kind of freedom…where lots of deadly violence continues due to a deadly mix of income inequality and automatic weapons everywhere… like Iraq).
MSNBC is going on about Charlton’s support for equal rights for African Americans before it was ‘politically correct’.) Heston’s getting an enviable obit.
Ah, the Perversity continues.
j. ped!!!
Jane Fonda still Lives! there is still hope.
dd – You really are a fucking imbecile. The 2nd Amendment is some peverse belief? And yes, our policy was to rape nuns to effectuate change. How much do you hate America?
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Try NOT articulating those voices you hear in your head. Give it a day. See how it goes.
“Touch of Evil” was classic film noir and one of his best works. God speed Chuck.
I think it’s interesting to note just how far left one has to lean, indeed, fall off, before the descriptor “liberal” is used.
Grudgingly.
I can only say in my eyes, his activism could overshadow his acting, nothing wrong with that. The implication that it was negative came from the AP writer. The second ammendmant protecting rights is just as important as any of the others.
After all, when guns are outlawed…. who will still have them?
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So much for hilarious accusations of media political correct-ness. Check this out from the Evil NYTimes: McCain’s son: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/us/politics/06mccain.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
very heart-warming.
After all, when guns are outlawed…. who will still have them?
I am not saying outlaw them…as it’d be impossible..I’ve got a couple myself. But glorifying them is perverse.
What’s perverse, datadove, is succumbing to a leftist political mindset that does more to destroy a man’s character than preserve his moral fiber. Let’s hope that you can go through your life with a fraction of Charlton Heston’s estimableness.
As is demonizing them. Thing is, I don’t see anyone glorifying them, save a subset of rappers who glorify lots of things that don’t deserve it. The demonization thing is rampant.
It’s a subset of the concept of conservatism that’s demonized. Charlton Heston knew that…
estimableness
good one, up to PW standards. Salute!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336278,00.html
a little fox to make it balanced eh?
there was a whole essay with that last link…but it got wiped out. It was a note to JD. But later. It is just a comment page after all.
datadave, if eliminating guns eliminates crime then why is Washington D. C. so violent and crime infested? Why are American cities that allow concealed handguns lower in violent crimes than cities who don’t allow guns even in the home? Compare Washington D. C.’s 169 murders to Montana’s 17 murders in 2006. Your basic position is wrong, and just like the environmentalists you seek to control people simply to assert your position and not for any real reason based on science or fact. Guns are bad because you say they are bad. I am glad people like you don’t run the country, you are the real danger to individual rights because you choose fiction over fact.
The idea of dd having a loaded weapon is scary.
The idea of dd having a loaded weapon is scary.
Fortunately, after a few bong hits he can never remember where he left the cartridges or how to put them in the gun.
The NBC TV affiliate in LA made sure its announcement of Heston’s death included the comment that “Heston was known for staunchly supporting conservatives like Strom Thurmond”.
I’ll be out shopping for a replacement TV today…
obviously dementednazidave has missed that “glorifies guns” part of the American culture that suspends gradeschool kids for drawing guns.
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How about Ben Hur? or The Ten Commandments? The huge technicolor blockbusters of their day?
And Heston was very much as actor rather than just a face like the classless Clooney who believed Heston deserved his Alzheimers. From Touch of Evil to Will Penny and all the delightful character bits he did in his later years (his performance as Cardinal Richelieu in the 1973 version of The Three Muskateers is particularly noteworthy)Heston’s acting talent is only downplayed because of his politics.
We the audience are told time and again we must separate the person from the performance, except when the performer’s beliefs conflict with Hollywood’s declared political correctness. Apostates are not welcome.
But glorifying them is perverse.
One of my favorite quotes is “God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.” Do you understand that logic, dave? Would not that make guns an object of respect and honor?
Oh… and the Heston’s were married for 64 years, no hint nor rumor of scandal ever touched the Hestons.
That’s gotta be a source of burn for some “stars”
A lot though when journalists die I’m a lot more gleeful than the AP is here. If Daniel Schorr ever dies I’m not sure how I could avoid paroxysms of manic giggling followed by like an almost post-coital glow.
Is this a poorly articulated jab at Mr. Heston….
Just to clarify – no, J.O., it’s not a jab at Heston at all – whom I revere – just as to Teh Hypocrisy! and subrational thought chaos of the Progressives’ m.o., which also tends to lead me to boycott the work of Faux Liberal actors, unless I get it for free, naturally then making me a ~”censor of their free-speech rights” [Tim Robbins?] since I don’t choose to purchase their products. likewise, I haven’t bought a NYT, etc., in about 40 years.
My favorite Chuck Heston role is Mike Vargas in Touch of Evil. I think that’s the most beautifully photographed film ever – I enjoy it even more than Kane among Welles’ films. The man accomplished a tremendous lot in his life from attending Northwestern, serving in the military, leading the Screen Actors Guild, and being active in civil rights. I think we all knew that small-minded people on the left side of the spectrum, you know like snarky mental midgets like datadouche, would reduce him to the caricature of a raving right wing nutjob. That’s just typical of people, you know like shallow, unaccomplished twits like datadave, who will never achieve of fraction of what a man like Heston did in his life. Chuck – RIP. datadave – still a loser as always.
Darleen. I forgot about ‘Will Penny’. I think it ranks up there with ‘Shane’ and ‘Monte Walsh’ as being a western classic.
That is admirable I think, JP. I stopped going to Starbucks a lot just so I wouldn’t subsidize their NYT distribution and validate that condescending exercise in co-branding.
OT, a tad bit:
Whenever this site may be redesigned, I humbly beseech the owner to direct his technical minions to include a tool that allows users to flat out ignore commentors they wish to skip, or possibly allows them to highlight the comments in a thread posted by such commentors so they can be easily passed by.
I thought Will Penny was his finest work, myself.
I second this request.
I know there’s quite a few who’d like to ignore my comments too, so it’s win-win.
That seems odd to me really. People wouldn’t be on the same page that way. It would be confuzzling I think.
oh… btw … as classless as AP is, the frothing, dancing on the corpse behavior by the kosskiddies, sadlyNutters! and DUers makes AP’s obit look like laudatory Shakespearian oratory.
They’re not paying attention I don’t think. Charlton Heston is a lot still alive and Baracky and his contempt for self-defense will be feeling it come the general.
– The SicFrogs sound like they’re all afraid he’ll rise on the third day and smote them all with the jawbone of an Asner.
El Cid. Chuck fights Islamic fundamentalism.
Heston was a thrilling actor, the kind that grabs the moviegoer’s attention the moment he appeared on the screen. He had that charisma that is so lacking in most actors (retch, cough, spit) today, such as Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, and Susan Sarandon, who depend on their yappery for attention. Charlton Heston could make even the most absurd line–“Soylent Green is people!”–immortal. He walked tall and talked deep and looked like a real man.
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Heston was a real man.
Which scares the shit out of wannabes like Dr. Caric and ilk.
The Omega Man. Soylent Green. Please, people, concentrate.
Re: Asner. I think he’s just overcompensating for looking a bit like a gruff conservative blue collar guy. If Archie Bunker were real, he’d look like Ed Asner did in the 70s.
Also he was on Friends.
It would add still another dimension of surrealism to some of the more entertaining threads.
hf, last year the Oregonian simply stopped delivering to our County due to the lack of a market out here in Chato’s Land. I occasionally bought one to start a fire with or to wrap a fish in. So I can’t claim all the credit I wished I could. We still get a local and a regional paper, both of which are far superior to the Oregonian. They both separate fact from opinion, although every once in a while the adults'[?] Peace and Social Justice children do get pictured on the front page… wretch and ralph, I assume.
His hot, hot Moses was a revelation for me.
You still has to be careful cause your innocuous local paper can still increase the reach that makes a lot of crap liberal newspapers an attractive ad buy. Depends on who owns it and if you can find that company’s logo on this page here. It’s a racket.
Comment by datadave on 4/6 @ 7:34 am #
Kinda early in the day to start dinking, ain’t it dave?
drinking
PIMF
Heck, the tool needn’t allow deletion – just the ability to go to a box and click a user’s name to highlight his/her/other’s posts. And please, PLEASE don’t conflate my wishes into anything approaching site-moderated comments.
Oh, dammit – it’s just a selfish plea for convenience. JOHN GALT LIVES!
Hey. That’s been done before: “Here’s your sign…”.
It would be no more confuzzling than my current practice, I think, since I tend to not pay attention to threads that devolve into troll feeds. NTTIAWWT.
Darleen, yes, yes, he was a real man. Sadly, what we got now is Leo DiCaprio and other wimpy twats who look like even I could beat them up.
Damn, he was great in Planet of the Apes.
I respect DiCaprio a lot more now that he’s basically been taken under the wing of Scorcese. He’ll probably be remembered as the great actor of our time, rather than George “Look Ma! I’m Cary Grant” Clooney.
I noticed the same spitting on the dead, Sir Host.
http://sailorette.blogspot.com/2008/04/charlton-heston.html
I liked DiCaprio in “The Aviator”, as he did a pretty good job playing Howard Hughes. However, I would still maintain that neither DiCaprio nor any other current Hollyweird “star” will ever measure up to Charlton Heston’s ankles. He was a master of his craft, and we shall not see his like again.
And there is also the fact that the man had CLASS, orders of magnitude more than the likes of douchebagdave, or any of the Kozkids, DUmmies and the rest of the lowlife motherfuckers who make up the barking moonbat contingent.
R I P, Mr. Heston.
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Man. Apparently some part of my brain thinks like Karl, because the first words out of my keyboard when I heard about Heston’s death were:
“Get your stinking paws off his obituary, you damn dirty apes.”
Ushie: I didn’t realize you were a teen-aged girl.
PCachu,
Seek help!
I was just wondering who gets his guns now that his hands are cold and dead.
oh, and TmjUtah, that’s why the names are now at the top of the comment. I know, I know, it’s difficult to skip over them, cause what if for a change they say something intelligent? but I’ve found I don’t really miss them and people usually quote the reeeeeally entertaining bits.
I changed my mind about Dicaprio after seeing both ‘The Aviator’ and ‘Blood Diamond’. The kid can act.
Oh, I’m a girl, all right.
DiCaprio irritates me because he squawks the eco-talk, while not doing the walk. Look up his LA mansion sometime. It is about a billion feet big, but it *does* have solar panels…
When longbows are outlawed only outlaws will have longbows!
Right, Mr. Hood?
oh, oldfart memory moment
I was a teen when the original Planet of the Apes was released and saw it the first weekend of its release — at the Cinerama Dome in Orange County. My dad and I were particularly eager to see it, as we both admired Rod Serling and he wrote the screenplay.
No one knew the ending at the time and it’s hard to describe the impact it had on the audience. The stunned, absolute silence of the audience at Heston’s cry of anger and anguish was amazing.
Everyone seems to forget this Heston coming-of-age flick. A true classic.
RIP, Chuck. You were one of a kind.
Depends on who owns it and if you can find that company’s logo on this page here. It’s a racket.
Yeah, good point. But the only logo on the local weekly here is the head of Chief Joseph.
Speaking of great extemporaneous, or otherwise, speakers and elocutionists – but obviously not actually having heard him – I’d have to stack up Joseph favorably against anyone who ever lived. B.O. wouldn’t even register.
But Joseph himself was picked to speak third by the Nez Perce when they confronted O.O.Howard, “the Christian General”, as Howard tried to push the Nimi-i-pu out of here in 1877. Too-hool-hool-zote – from the remote Salmon-Snake River breaks – went first. That’s as far as it got. Howard couldn’t take it. I guess the Nez Perce thought he could.
Poor Howard had wandered into the forbidden zone.
If I’m not mistaken, a “Hot Moses” is a “Hot Carl” with a burning bush.
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………Hi, I’d like to make a reservation for Hell.
…that, of course, was in response to your #47 MayBee. But you knew that. So now I’ve given that joke a Hot Carl.
And RIP Mr. Heston. Say hi to John Wayne and don’t pick up the soap if Hudson’s in the shower.
Does data dave realize that where central america has the most gun violence is Brazil? And that they have harsher gun laws than the US? Hmmmm….
Probably not, since Brazil’s in South America, not Central.
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Heston’s status as a major movie actor of his era is beyond challenge.
His actual understanding of political and economic reality had the texture of Swiss Cheese.
Enough fact to provide flavor, with holes throughout.
The imperial Heston would have the world think ahat he had inherited the MOSES ROLE.
With that inherited role he felt he received papal infallibility in all things secular.
His support of Latin American regimes meant he was supporting far more crimes than the raping of nums.
Try the despots themselves grabbing sub-teen and teenage girls — and boys — off roads and roadsides,
or out of their parents arms, raping them in the backseats of their armored limousines and dumping them miles later.
Truckloads of jail and prison political prisoners being hauled to political opponents fields and groves to pick the crops clean.
Any fields and groves, not just those owned by the rulers. But any products worth stealing. With armed soldiers enforcing the theft.
That was and is reality in parts of Latin America.
Where devout Catholic “native Americans” defending their families and homes are labeled communist by U.S. uber-conservatives.
Tack on Heston’s well-publicized presidency of NRA, proclaiming urban “convicted felon” drug gangsters have absolute rights to assault rifles and sub-machine guns.
Heston was a talented actor, not a well-founded political leader.
That dirty low life cartoon that appeared in the L.A. TIMES bout CHARELTON HESTON is of very poor taste the cartoonists should be ashamed for such a crappy cartoon