Barack Obama’s presidential campaign website has removed an endorsement from the New Black Panther Party.
However, Obama remains a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, which states:
The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.
Dr. Cone has written that
Black Theology is the theological arm of Black Power, and Black Power is the political arm of Black Theology.
Perhaps the answer to the title question is that hosting the endorsement of the NBPP might actually penetrate the dimmed faculties of the establishment media in a way that Obama’s church — with or without the noxious Rev. Wright – has not.
(h/t Michelle Malkin.)
I’m thinking the clenched fist might make for some cool White House china, though.
This won’t last long. The only major quotation I’ve seen from Wright that gets a lot of play is the “G-d damn America,” one. The MSM will trumpet that one quote as being the most important and then explain that one quote away (they are already doing this). All the other hateful things Wright has said will be ignored and will go away as well.
Half life? Two weeks, maybe. And I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.
I admire the Senator for refusing to turn tail and leave his church because of a bunch of paranoid banshees. Looks like Black Liberation Theology works. But do keep harping; I’m sure you’ve got ’em trembling in their overalls.
You’ve seen the video of Reverend Wright, and WE’RE the paranoid banshees?
Racist.
It’s a bit like Sinn Fein and the Provos, you know.
He cannot turn tail and leave his church. It’s the thing that got him into the senate in the first place.
Gotta keep hammering it Karl. We have seen a peak for the moment – but slow and steady wins the race. This is very, very juicy and goes very, very deep.
I’m expecting a note of approval from cynn to David Duke as well. For the same reasons, if merely a different color.
… oh, yeah, “trembling in their overalls”? Their overalls?
I admire the Senator for refusing to turn tail and leave his church because of a bunch of paranoid banshees.
You didn’t answer before, cynn, but then you never do. Let me ask you again:
If it turned out that McCain had spent 20 years in a “Christian Identity” “church”, would you be giving him a pass?
You won’t answer, because you can’t.
Oh, yeah… Clinton is up in PA by 26 points (h/t Insty), and that was before the White Original Sin/Throw Gramma Under the Bus speech.
Lots of overalls ’round them-there parts, ah reckon.
Surely cynn is going to share the love for Fred Phelps.
Rev. Wright is practically the Fred Phelps of Black Liberation Theology.
When the Iranian leadership calls us the “Great Satan”, is that sorta like saying “god damn America”?
If Obama gets elected and goes to talk face to face with the Iranians is he gonna nod at this and say amen and then tell us a story about his Grandma when we ask wtf?
Sorry I didn’t respond earlier, Spies. A quick glance at your link made me think of “mud people.” And if McCain had been a member of such a sect for 20 years, it wouldn’t be a personal issue, but yeah, it might be problematic. But only for the same reason that Obama’s relationship to that church is: in a free and open society, a leader’s personal proclivities should have only a glancing impact on his or her policy decisions. I know that is counter-intuitive, and virtually impossible to gauge, but that’s what political vetting is about.
As for these New Black Panthers, they are free to endorse whomever they want, and Obama and others are equally free to distance themselves. I think taint is highly overrated. I mean, I step in something everyday.
A quick glance at your link made me think of “mud people.â€Â
Yeah, those are the guys. According to them, “mud people” are responsible for all the world’s ills. Sort of like the way that Wright blames AIDS and 9/11 on Whitey, don’t you think?
And if McCain had been a member of such a sect for 20 years, it wouldn’t be a personal issue, but yeah, it might be problematic.
cynn, as I said before, you don’t even believe your own bullshit. Don’t expect anyone else to believe it.
I mean, I step in something everyday.
You got that right.
Q: Why did Obama reject the New Black Panther Party?
A: To get to the other side.
Okay, SPB, what do we do with extremists like that, besides exterminate them? Be as dismissive as you want. Think about this: Wright and his kind will eventually become extinct because the social landscape will change. But your boys like Phelps will always be hiding in the underbrush.
By the way, if it’s the New Black Panther Party, can we call them cubs?
what do we do with extremists like that, besides exterminate them?
What we don’t do is elect them President. Beyond that I ignore them.
But your boys like Phelps will always be hiding in the underbrush.
Phelps is a Democrat.
Registered, maybe.
And B. Moe is so stern I recommend we reroute the melting icecaps through the furrows in his brow.
Registered, certainly.
And since you have the only Kleagle holding elective office, philosophically probably.
Not only is Phelps registered as a Democrat, but he’s run for office as a Democrat several times, too:
Question: why is this election such a Spy vs. Spy cage match? Are there not mutual issues that libs and cons can agree on? Is it really that demarcated? Oh, that’s a stupid question, sorry.
He is/was a fundraiser also. Was invited to both of Clinton’s Inaugural Balls.
I cannot pretend to understand the Religious nonsense spouted by you infidels, but something intrigues me all the same. It appears this doctrine you speak of is an odd mix of christianity, racial exclusivism and socialism. There have been those who claim the struggle I belonged to embodied Islam, racial exclusivism and socialism as well. Is that so or not. I honestly do not know and am wondering.
And that’s your comeback. Sorry I invoked the evil Phelps name. He’s one of ours. I get that. Nothing you have ever done is ever wrong. Got it. New math, always changing.
Are there not mutual issues that libs and cons can agree on?
Ask Joe Lieberman.
Or Libby Spencer, for that matter.
Or John McCain, if I recall correctly.
How does Wright become extinct if Obama and the rest continue to defeat natural selection?
As president of the New Black Obama party, I’m endorsing Karl to be lead floater in this year’s pirate pride parade.
Put your Obama skull bong down Karl.
John McCain went with the Democrats on several issues, and still got the Republican nomination. Joe Lieberman did and got kicked out of the Democrat Party. Take your unity bullshit and peddle it to nishi, she is the only one around here gullible enough to buy that crap.
Steve G: Someday we might eliminate the pesky black race if we could completely dilute the white race with icky black blood. Gradually and selectively, of course.
B. Moe: you are a hard liner; you apparently thin life is a tennis match. Good luck with that.
Cynn, I stood and reached across the aisle to clasp your hand. I’m letting my hair grow out and progging everyday on PW in my stinky leather sandals. I’m listening to the Yes We Can video in seven speaker surround sound right now, as a matter of fact. There’s no such thing as false hope, of that I’m sure, but I thought we’d be at least having daily phone sex by now. I’m self-flagellating in the wind. Please send smoke signals soon.
thor: you are a twat, in the mental sense.
The “New” Black Panthers aren’t yo mama’s Black Panthers.
They’re just a bunch of rent-seeking douchebags and occasional ganged-up threateners of the smallest white person around.
Huey Newton wouldn’t endorse a politician — especially not this one.
But this makes sense. Punks of a feather.
You are a refug ruse. The Jeff god would not allow it otherwise.
The Jeff god hath forsaken us for snarly tattoo people.
High-kick to the waffle sac. Gimme some air.
Are you saying the personal isn’t political? What kind of left-of-center thinker are you?
The Jeff god allows you.
One of the other writer’s on Highbrid Nation did a nice post talking about the Black Panthers endorsing Barack and what this means in light of the Rev. Wright controversy. Honestly I’m feeling like the panthers are doing Barack a disservice for even making such and anouncement. Between Rev. Wright and the Panthers I’m starting to feel like black people may be responsible for Barack not getting elected when it’s all said and done.
Exit question:
Would cynn or any like-minded folk “admire” a Republican or conservative who stood by a ranting, paranoid racist?
Or might that be seen as evidence of said Republican/conservative’s racism and hatred?
[…] Of course not. Removing the endorsement only makes Obama even more suspect, because now the question becomes, “Why did Obama reject the New Black Panther Party?” (Emphasis mine.) Barack Obama’s […]
If you’re standing next to Jeff tell him I said “hello” and that “I admire him.”
BTW, I don’t speak for cynn as she is no longer a subscriber to my newsletter, The Daily Endowment.
Good Fuckin’ Day, to you.
Would cynn or any like-minded folk “admire†a Republican or conservative who stood by a ranting, paranoid racist?
No, and not only that but cynn, not being a dummy, knows damn well that Phelps is a Democrat. It’s been pointed out many, many times, but she will always consider him a Republican because that’s where the racists are. It’s a mental block with her because her “side” is the good, and will always be so. Facts to the contrary will be duly ignored.
That said, I believe you never give up and so perhaps she should tell us what common cause she would make with the Republicans. Since she asked the question.
Sav, Sav, Sav, you’re forgetting only white people can be racist. so the answer to you last question is “of course”
Clearly, the Wright stuff is having no impact. I’m just wasting my time.
NPR’s in panic mode. Wright must be hurting a lot.
panic mode
Okay, SPB, what do we do with extremists like that, besides exterminate them?
Seems to me that there’s quite a bit of leeway between “visiting them every Sunday for twenty years, inviting them to my house, and giving them tens of thousands of dollars” and “exterminating them”, but that’s just me. I guess I don’t have the progressive outlook on such things.
Nothing you have ever done is ever wrong. Got it. New math, always changing.
Don’t give yourself a hernia setting up those straw men, cynn.
Are there not mutual issues that libs and cons can agree on?
Sure. Unfortunately for Obama, “God DAMN America”, “Whitey created AIDS” and “America deserved 9/11” are not among them.
panic mode?
Not Reuters. At least they do a fairly good job here I think.
Obama and the good Rev are not one and the same, well, unless you’re wearing monkey goggles, then they all look alike, or so I’ve heard.
Obama and the good Rev are not one and the same
This is exactly right. J. Wright is probably still saying “GotDamn AmeriKKKa, while Barack has taken to a multi-pronged distancing strategy. When Michael Steele refuses to engage in the arm-waiving, hopping, hand-clapping activities, he shows up on the web with the old Vaudeville Okey-Doke make-up.
So in summary:
Flaming half-black liberal Democrat: not black enough + black enough + too black + less black = Just Right Uniter
Conservative Black Republican = Mr. Bojangles
Math is the key to knowledge
Huey is pretty upset with the New Black Panthers . . . (scroll down a half page) . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_Black_Panther_Party
Following the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York City and Washington, DC the party began distributing propaganda around the country that Israel had planned and financed the attacks and that 4,000 Israelis who worked at the World Trade Center were warned ahead of time by their government and called in sick the day of the attack  a 9/11 conspiracy theory popularized in Amiri Baraka’s poem “Somebody Blew Up America.”
Geez, that sounds familiar, somehow. Where have I heard that?
Oh. It’s just like the anti-Americanism fomented by that church Baracky gave tens of thousands of dollars to, Dan. The anti-Americanism that Baracky now says he is the only solution for. Good catch.
Isn’t that the same stuff that Cynthia McKinney used to spew, Dan?
More panic:
I’m gonna take it to . . . Hymietown
I’m gonna take it to . . . Hymietown
Pablo – I think panic would be the term used when they saw Hill/Bill’s lead in PA swell to 26%.
Wow. That dude’s right. If Obama had said that it he would have been set. That analysis really brings out how Baracky’s instinct in his first crisis was to appeal to the old guard to circle the wagons.
Even Democrats see that, and even the LA Times will print it. People are ready for change, but that’s not what Baracky is really selling after all.
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For those of you that call Wright a racist, do you know what a racist is? Wright may have said some heated angry and mean things but the man is not a racist. he feeds the hungry of all kinds, clothes the naked and helps those with hiv/aids.
A racist is someone or a collective group of people that have a certain power to inhibit another group of people from excercising their liberty; ie, banks, politicians, judges, law enforcement, etc. Wright has never denied a white person a bank loan. he never stopped a jew from going into a temple to worship, he never withheld anything from any one or group because he hates that group of people.
What he said may be prejudiced but he’s not a racist. I know racists, they have tried to keep me from promotions at work, and everything else I have worked hard for in life.
And what he said seems to only startle white non-church goers. In America, on any given Sunday, if you go into almost any Christian evangelical church YOU WILL HEAR ALMOST THE SAME KIND OF TALK. From black and white and latino ministers alike, they speak in a very heated and authoritative manner likening our modern times to the biblical times. They take the text from the bible where God punished the wicked and relay it to today. According to the acts and behaviors of many in the world today, by way of the bible, God certainly would damn us all. That is the nature of those sermons, mixed with decades of unfairness and maltreatment, it’s a wonder we all aren’t cursing.
Not excusing it, but I understand it. You can only take so much in life before you crack. And if you have never been there then you just don’t know.
Wright is a cracked racist.
I wouldn’t want him putting ideas in my kids’ heads, that’s for sure.
That is quite an interesting definition of a racist, jo. I don’t suppose you could provide us with a link or a cite to the dictionary you found it?
I think the weight is in the ALMOST.
What did Wright go through in his life that made him crack?
Here’s his Wiki bio:
Cynn?… I’ve said this before. Panties/twist
I like you better when you’re obviosly drunk commenting
Odd, that’s not the definition we’re using for the word. I’m using it in the sense of someone who is bigoted against others based solely on their race. Wright’s rants certainly put him into that group.
Curiously, your definition excludes the various white supremacist groups, because they sure as hell don’t have the power to prevent anyone from living free.
They don’t preach the New Testament anymore?
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