The last legacy of Dan Pat Moynihan:
Now, in desperation, Hillary and her minions are attacking Obama with shots that will only arouse voter sympathy for him and backlash against her. Hillary asks, “When did running for president become a qualification to be president?†and her aides distribute evidence that Obama wanted to run for president in kindergarten to defuse the attack that Hillary and Bill have always planned on a regal, dynastic succession.
More recently, a top Hillary campaign aide spoke of the need to investigate Obama’s drug use in high school where he has admitted to using cocaine.
None of these shots are going to knock anybody out or even down, but Hillary keeps up the pattern of personal, irrelevant negative attacks.The conclusion is obvious: neither Hillary nor her staff know how to campaign. After the Clinton re-election in 1996, they have never been tested in a competitive race. When Giuliani dropped out of the New York State Senate race and the young Congressman Rick Lazio had to enter at the last minute to try to stop Hillary’s bid, the conclusion was pre-ordained. Hillary’s re-election was a cakewalk against a totally under funded opponent. She doesn’t know how to win.
Hillary’s experience has been limited to the insider back biting of Washington where she is an expert at using her secret police  a small army of private detectives  to unearth negatives about her or Bill’s opponents. (Even former U.N. Ambassador Andrew Young recently admitted that Hillary ran the effort to discredit women who might come forward and accuse Clinton of misconduct.) But, when it comes to campaigning, advertising and winning an election, these folks and this candidate don’t have a clue.
Morris may be accurate in many of his observations, but I still think that it’s too early to count Hillary out.
Let’s wait and see how she does in the later primaries in the bigger states where far more delegates will be at stake.
I suspect that after the dust clears, Hillary will be the party’s nominee, she’s the establishment favorite & the media want her.
The media always raise up sacrificial lambs early to make the show a little more interesting, but they don’t really have a chance because the fix is already in. Think Eugene McCarthy in ’68 and Dean more recently.
That being said, I think that Hillary could be the best present that the democrats give to a lackluster republican field. Many, I suspect will not necessarily vote for the republican candidate so much as against Hillary. She is a polarizing figure.
The primaries are hers to win and the election is hers to loose. I’m predicting (and have for some time now) that the democrat ticket will be Clinton/Obama, because the democrats will need to pull out all the stops and they think that a page out of the identity group political play book, a woman and a black, will get them the edge they’ll need.
I’m betting it will be the dirtiest election yet with media focus on the trivial and slimy. Issues? They can wait till after the election.
I think all she knows is negative. Rich are bad, conservatives are bad, Republicans are bad, Christians are bad, the only way to deal with anyone is attack and demonize, then if anyone complains, point out they are bad for trying to demonize her. She’s following a lot of the textbook leftist radical revolutionary code: blame your enemies of doing what you are so that when you are accused it seems like “you too” and tames the sting of it being revealed.
Does anyone have a good one-stop source that explains the Dem primary process, especially how the “super-delegates” (how the party elite actually retains the power to pick the candidate IMO) come into play? Who are the people at the top of the Dem food chain that are in a position to apportion those votes?
I’ve commented at length here and elsewhere that I don’t think Hillary! could survive a real primary campaign… but the key word there is “real”. She makes Howard Dean look like a statesman.
I think the Dem party was used by rather than led by the Clintons, and I’m pretty sure that the top tier Dems know in their gut that what’s left of the party of Truman is in fact become a leaky scow crewed by a tie-dyed vegan pirate crew lusting for organic rum and government – provided STD drugs.
The question is this: do enough top Dems have the stones to defy Hill early enough in the primary schedule to prevent the primary campaign from fatally embarrassing (I know, just what that would entail, even with the media doing their part to shield the Dems, boggles, doesn’t it?) the party as a whole?
When the Clintons feel threatened, the dirt comes out. As we speak there are metaphorical ten wheel dump trucks idling in the alleys around the New York Times and CNN. I can’t see a failed Clinton candidacy going gently into that good night.
More likely it will be something along the lines of the last hours in Hitler’s bunker crossed with the burning of Atlanta.
Morris gets it wrong every time with regard to Hillary’s political future, at least, he always has. He certainly has her number…he knows what she is, and tries to make others see her as she is. He may be right this time, however.
America’s fun couple isn’t what it used to be, though. You’ve noticed Bill is just not that into Hillary’s presidential aspirations, and if he were, his illness and age and rather feeble retrospective legacy would be of little service. Hillary is still playing the old game. She’s like the Generals who lose wars, because they only know how to fight the last one.
She was string and tail to Bill’s kite, she flying high on the benefit of his charm and (affected) sensibility; Without her grounding and running interference, he might have gotten off the ground but would have spiraled off the scene and into some kite-eating tree long ago.
Now Bill, old and busted, has long ago drifted low, Hilary has subsituted herself for the kite, and the tail she thought necessary to any victory, only serves to drag her low. It is rather conspicous, and no one is really rooting for the charmless kit.
Kite.
(Bother.)
Unless Billary is re-embraced by the media, stick a fork in her. She is done.
I think that even the left leaning MSM has had enough of the Clinton’s transparent bullshit.
The Clinton’s have done more to advance voter sophistication than anyone/anything I can think of.
On the other hand, as much as the MSM is rooting (pushing) for Obama, once he has attained the peak, they will probably pull their usual hi-jinks, and turn on him like a pack of rabid dogs. They just can’t resist, and have a long track record to prove it.
There’s still a long way to go.
SaraW. Women don’t like her. She hasn’t got a chance in hell of getting elected. Today, tomarow or next November.
And though women once liked Bill, those coatails got torn off his monkey suit.
Her snowball’s chance would be a stupid Republican nominee. There are people I know who would take her “git ‘er done” pragmatism over an equally icky Romney or a flimsy Huckabee.
And that’s with eyes open to her horribleness.
People, people, it’s a –ing year yet. We shouldn’t be even having this sort of discussion until May, April at the earliest. All of those people — both parties — are burning up campaign funds, voter attention, and their own energy and effort. More than one of ’em is going to crash and burn before next summer. The “Me First!” efforts of the various State party committees are just making it worse.
Both parties are going to end up with brokered conventions, because the primaries are so –ing early they’re for all practical purposes irrelevant. Brokered conventions will go to the last person standing. The super-delegates of the DNC — the modern, certified tobacco-free version of the smoke-filled room — may very well go for Hillary, but she may equally well be too damaged (and too exhausted) to be suitable. I make no absolute predictions, especially about the future, but I’ve a hunch we’ve only just barely met the eventual Democratic nominee.
Regards,
Ric
It may be a year away, but there are more than a few to our left who can hardly wait. The groundswell of trumped-up BDS has shifted the majority of Americans who will vote to the left, to the Democratic party. The Iraqi/Afghani conflicts have tired the 30-minute-sitcom expectations of our fat, dumb and happy populace; the gasoline prices are constantly rising and that will be blamed on Republicans; the Goreacle’s constant humping of the global warming harpy is just an attack on Conservative Capitalism (and after Bali, we’re on board with all of that); the MSM’s are barely controlling their glee and they’re expertly feeding the carefully-selected newses to the masses in just the right tone to favor their chosen goals: seeking the final demise of the Republican Party’s 8-year run in the White House, and installing some nice Leftists, for to close in on their ‘idealistic American Leftist Mediocrity Dream’, one that, I’m afraid, will simply bring America closer to some sort of end game.
I saw a comment, somewhere, YouTube I think, where some New Gen types were making fun of ’50’s commercials, posting near-incoherent incredulous statements over the possibility that we were once like that. An obviously older poster remarked “I’m just glad I’m in the Baby Boomer generation, so I’ll be dead when the Chinese get over here and assrape all of you young know-nothings…” or something of the sort. While that’s probably not an accurate prediction, I can certainly understand his sentiments.
Now, I’ve got to go out to shop at Wal-Mart…
TmjUtah,
Here’s a link to the democrat primaries you might find useful.
Ric, we do not have a year yet. The primaries begin in January with six states having them that month. Super Tuesday is in February and 23 states will be heard from then. THe winner coming out of February will be the presumptive nominee and the convention is in August.
By Labor Day, the nominees for both parties will be known and we will be on the home stretch to the election.
I still say that the fix is in for Hillary.
The damn link!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_2008
(Bother.)
SarahW is Pooh Bear?
Just my point. That is six months — six months in which the Press will have every opportunity to look for scandal, six months in which the candidates can do the same to one another, six months of continual political ads and talking heads and signs on lawns and… Buyer’s remorse will be setting in by May, and by August a candidate running on the sole plank that both contenders and their staffs be half-hung, drawn, and quartered would carry every state but Vermont and get sixty percent of the popular vote. For the first time a third party candidate who has NOT been in everybody’s face continuously for a full year is likely to have a chance.
No. The conventions will be brokered, because both candidates selected in February will have become so despised by all but their most rabid partisans that neither could get a million real votes. It’s just a good thing (for them) that we don’t have “None Of The Above Is Acceptable” on the ballot, or they’d be in real trouble.
The one ray of light in the whole thing is that the MSM are not going to be able to keep up their mindless Hillary!-worship for that long. It’s their firm belief that scandals sell newspapers and gather commercial-viewing “eyeballs”, and no matter who the Republican candidate may be they’ll have tapped that source to the dregs by June at the latest. They’ll still need to move product…
Regards,
Ric
Tim P –
Thanks for the linky.
Ric –
My observations and positions here are most certainly not the product of measured judgement, nor does the situation really call for timely critique.
I just want the _ING noise to stop. Just for a week. Okay, okay, just for a day. One stinking day. I’ll settle for just once not having Hillary’s! name mentioned on the radio when I’m trying to eat my lunch in the cab of my truck…
If I can get to Christmas without my head exploding I’ll be doing alright.
I tend to agree with Tim P. (despite almost always agreeing with Ric)
I also chuckled over this:
1996 wasn’t a competitive race (Jack Kemp even tanked a debate to Al Gore), but Bill still won less than 50% of the vote.
Oh, I understand what Tim is saying, and that is indeed the plan. But…
Tmj isn’t the only one — and he isn’t going to get his wish. The hourly repeats of Little Drummer Boy will stop on the 25th of this month. The –ing noise (as he so aptly describes it) is going to keep up until August of next year, and by that time the American public is going to be so –ing sick of both nominees they’ll be screaming hate at their radios.
A nasty thought: I do not suggest or condone such a thing, but I give it a 40% chance of an attempt to assassinate Hillary! sometime next summer (presuming, as most do, that she is the nominee). It’ll be a Godsend for the media, of course.
Regards,
Ric
Ric –
LOVED the comment.
Do me a favor, though; next time you are moved to speculate the probability of event “a” in the context of person “H!”, please leave mention of fellow happy warrior Tmj off the post, eh?
I have this thing about Salisbury steak, not to mention many, many other institutional staples.
(Tmj will smile and wave at all white Crown Vics for the next few weeks…)
Ric,
Your comment about a brokered convention may be prescient, but I suspect that if it comes to that at the democrat’s convention, it will break in favor of Hillary.
As for the noise stopping. Hell let it roar, because the only thing that will get the MSM off of their Hillary trance is something real bad. Like a major shit storm in Iraq or the economy tanking or Israel taking a major hit or …
You get the point.
These nitwits are a minor irritation compared to reality taking a really bad turn. Besides, like you were saying, it will let the public get a good look at her or Obama or who ever. The only downside to that is, who are the republicans offering as an alternative?
This may shape up to be one of the most dismal elections in recent memory. Ranking up (or should I say down) there with the 76 or 88 election choices. Or even 2000 for that matter.
“Personal Irrelevant negative attacks?” Sounds like something George Bush would do (through Rove, of course).
Wonderfully self-referential, bob.
Indeed, Slart! By the logic of his own comment, Bob Smith IS George Bush.