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Sean Penn Challenges Conventional Wisdom [Dan Collins]

on Kucinich.

Conventional Wisdom kicks Sean Penn’s ass. 

52 Replies to “Sean Penn Challenges Conventional Wisdom [Dan Collins]”

  1. SteveG says:

    Nice speech

    I thought the screenwriters were on strike?

    Hey

    Did Jeff scab that speech, because if it was satire, boy did it ever reel me right on in

  2. Dan Collins says:

    Well, it’s hard to guess how Iowa feels about having New Hampshire right on its ass.

  3. Swede says:

    A “major political address” by Spiccoli.

    Dude.

  4. B Moe says:

    I wonder if it was really hard to play a character like Spiccoli who was so much smarter than Penn really is.

    “Electability, he said, was in the eye of the beholder. “It is for us to determine what is electable. And here’s how simple it is: If we, those of us who truly believe in the Constitution of the United States of America, all of us, vote for Dennis Kucinich, he will be elected. Could we call him electable then?”

    Couldn’t have been easy.

  5. Sean M. says:

    “It is for us to determine what is electable. And here’s how simple it is: If we, those of us who truly believe in the Constitution of the United States of America, all of us, vote for Dennis Kucinich, he will be elected. Could we call him electable then?”…

    Concluded Penn, “So, let’s give the Constitution another read, shall we? And then decide who its greatest defender would be. I suggest that Republicans, Independents, and Democrats alike will find that they know what’s really right in their hearts and minds.”

    Sounds like somebody hasn’t seen the Ron Paul blimp yet!

  6. The Lost Dog says:

    Whoa! And Madonna married this guy? Doesn’t do a whole lot to change my opinion of her.

    Does he still do regular beatdowns on people who piss him off?

  7. BJTexs says:

    Added Penn, “So, here’s the question. We got Iowa coming up, we got New Hampshire right on its ass. Do we sell it for electability? If Hitler were the only candidate, would voting for him be most American?”

    Um, Sean? If air were not breathable, would you breath it anyway?

    …in what was billed as a “major political address” given by the actor Friday in San Francisco.

    In other major political addresses, Laurie David endorsed Barty, the dancing penguin, challenging conventional wisdom while she twirled round and round and round…

  8. Crimso says:

    My ex-wife is down for Kucinich. I offer this without further comment.

  9. Mike C. says:

    Add Penn to the list of notables who have endorsed Kucinich in the past.From 2004:

    Among the Trees 6 pm—In an unprecedented move yesterday the classic children’s book icon, Grandfather Twilight, broke twenty years of silence to endorse Congressman Dennis Kucinich for President in 2004…Following Grandfather Twilight’s example, the creatures of the forest met to draw up a formal statement of their own. At the signing event the Bear, acting as spokesbeing, proclaimed all the animals to be in complete agreement. As he boldly signed the document he went on to say, “Congressman Kucinich is our unanimous choice for President. Our hopes are common with humankind and the Earth. What we dream should be taken seriously.”

  10. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Funny stuff. With any luck, the CooCoocinich won’t even be my rep anymore. He finally has a serious challenge on the democratic side. Yes, he’s another populist new lib but at least CooCoocinich might be gone forevah…

  11. Rusty says:

    Now I know who andy really is.

  12. Cave Bear says:

    I’m sorry, but I can no longer even look at a photo Sean Penn without busting out laughing. Why? you may ask. During the aftermath of Katrina, Mr. Penn went down to New Orleans with the intention of going out into the devastated areas and rescue the people abandoned to their fates by the e-vil McChimpy Bushitler/Halliburton/Cheney/Rove/Rethuglican/Big Oil cabal.

    To do this, Comrade Penn purchased a new 15′ fishing boat with outboard motor, and also brought along a couple of his bodyguards, who were toting shotguns and wearing bulletproof vests, as was Penn.

    So they launch their new boat, begin heading out into the flooded areas on their errand of mercy to save the poor, dispossessed brown peoples…and before they got twenty yards out, the boat starts sinking.

    Seems that “Captain” Penn and his ruff-tuff-manly-man bodyguards forgot one of the first rule of boating, which is that before you get your boat wet, make goddamn sure that the drain plug is in…

    (I once saw this 40-year-old spoiled rich kid (no doubt a confirmed Demo moonbat, just like Penn) sink a brand-new $50,000 ski boat in Lake Travis in this same way.)

  13. […] Story (h/t Dan Collins at Protein Wisdom) writes about that brilliant up-and-coming political wonk Sean Penn; Lambasting Democrats in […]

  14. ccs says:

    OI, I feel for you but … at least he doesn’t say ‘beam me up’ on the house floor.

  15. bour3 says:

    Sean Penn has great hair. You don’t often see that, a study in curved lines piled atop a stack of deeply etched horizontal lines. Makes me want to Photoshopâ„¢ an arm reaching up and *blur* bald head.

  16. Rusty says:

    The question we must ask ourselves is; Did the educational system fail Sean Penn, or is Sean Penn just incredibly stupid. Frankly. I’m amazed his line has survived this long.

    Cave Bear. Public boat ramps can give endless hours of innocent summertime amusement. I once watched an elegantly dressed aspiring captain launch his newly minted, very large, sailboat along with his brand new top-of-the-line Chevy Suburban into lake Michigan. The sailboat floated regally, trailer and all. The Suburban? Not so much.

  17. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    I wonder if it was really hard to play a character like Spiccoli who was so much smarter than Penn really is.

    Don’t forget that retarded guy in “I am Sam”. That’s like you or me trying to play Stephen Hawking.

  18. datadave says:

    oh, well. had to see what the most open wing nut postal hole (not exactly a ‘blog’ what is it?) has to say. Jeesh, to use a Vermont expression…in respect to DC) so what’s So Bad about Kucinich? ‘course I don’t expect too much from those who are ‘authoritarians’ who are so welded to conventional “wisdom”. Like Processed Foods. or Fools.

    Rather than just pissing on someone…how about some facts? Penn is a great director apparently. And Kucinich has a great ‘trophy wife’ for a small, gutsy, not so good looking guy. All I can see wrong with the guy is that he’s not telogenic. So we have true failures as President like Raygun who’s pretty much all that’s wrong in the world today (i.e. terrorism and global warming >>he broke the bank supporting Wahhabeism and the future Taliban, torture in central america, cocaine importation via Oly NOrth, and anti Environmentalism…who put a dingbat like James Watt as Sec of Interior. etc. etc.) Meanwhile, Kucinich saved Clevelanders millions of dollars from a mafia/bank syndicate taking over the local electrical monopoly) btw, municipally owned power companies charge less and even are more innovative than “privately” owned utilities which have to please a minority of greedy stockbrokers who aren’t willing to put money back into research and development.

    Okay, go on slime on. welcome to hear from the authoritarian slime squad.

  19. datadave says:

    wow,,, ,kinda of cool that forest weirdness site. occasionally, some authoritarians can come up with some new droll.

    http://www.dennis4president.com/home/

    Mostfun ever for $200

    Pros: Quiet Low power consumption User friendly Free Ubuntu software and upgrades easily installed

    Cons: Case is bigger than need be.

    Other Thoughts: I can’t imagine why anyone would ruin a perfectly good computer by installing bloatware on it. The Ubuntu/gOS Linux distribution is very easy to grasp, no matter what your level of cyber-sophistication.

    opps wrong quote

  20. mojo says:

    Whatta schmuck.

  21. Synova says:

    I think they look alike, actually. I mean, don’t they?

  22. Slartibartfast says:

    so what’s So Bad about Kucinich?

    Not bad so much as crazy.

    Or, more charitably, stupid and negligent. None of the above are qualities one desires in a presidential candidate.

    Why do I think that? Try Googling “Kucinich chemtrails”, and read.

  23. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    So we have true failures as President like Raygun

    Psst…. gramps… it’s the 21st century. All the cool kids are screeching about Bush these days.

  24. Sean M. says:

    All I can see wrong with the guy is that he’s not telogenic.

    Um, okay, how about this?

  25. JD says:

    datadave sure does bring the fire, but forgot his namesake, data.

  26. Rusty says:

    #18 Comment by datadave on 12/9 @ 6:24 pm #

    Sean! Is that You?

  27. Slartibartfast says:

    Um, okay, how about this?

    Ok, I take back crazy, stupid and negligent. Substitute maliciously incompetent, please.

  28. datadave says:

    STILL no DATA. HMMMMM

  29. datadave says:

    thx for the hit piece from lady pitbull reporter. I’m still reading it…be back…

  30. JD says:

    datadave – Random incoherent screeching counts as data in your world?

  31. datadave says:

    wow..great article.. she more or less fails to smear ol’ Dennis the Menace as he was called then. Her ‘race-baiting charge’ doesn’t hold up but just shows he is a constituent-oriented pol. Yes, a “pol”.

    I already heard the negatives from another Clevelander, a “Nam-vet” who wasn’t particularly political. Remember all major cities of the ‘rust belt’ were falling apart then esp. NYC. Buffalo’s never recovered. Cleveland has esp. due to Kucinich’s support for public municipal power was followed by Voinicich’s similar stance (despite being a conservative)….(p.s. I was only born there, not living there..) If he was such a terrible mayor why does he get landslide after landslide in his conservative Catholic dominated’ US Rep. district…Maybe because he’s the ‘real deal’?

  32. JD says:

    datadave – How about you pay attention to your own name? Kucinich was a horrible Mayor, Holli wrote a book about big-city Mayors and ranked Kucinich as one of the 10 worst Mayors in over a century. The City went into default on his watch. He wins because he was born and raised in the area that he represents. It does not surprise me that you ignore this, or think that speaks highly of his qualifications. In fact, it does not surprise me that you support him.

  33. JD says:

    Please, enlighten us as to how Kucinich allowing the City to go into default helped the City recover. We would love to hear the pretzel logic involved in that one. What did Kucinich do in his 2 years in office that effectuated Cleveland’s recovery?

  34. datadave says:

    good article, not likely the Press is going to notice the menace from Cleveland…but hey, Reagan and Bush were even less in substance. They both sucked as Governors leaving their state in deficit. That li’l guy made it from the wrong side of the tracks and didn’t have to suck up to anyone to do it. That guy’s got more chutzpa than anyone I know.

  35. datadave says:

    Holli? Everyone agrees that he was ‘right’ about saving the municipal power company. Sticking it to bankers? that’s a crime?

  36. datadave says:

    Argentina went into default.. and it’s been better ever since. Ever since they gave up on the military, the World Bank, and the IMF….Argentina’s been growing faster than we are….Brazil too. Following Authoritarian Wisdom, kissing ass with the Oligarchs (i.e. Cleveland’s bankers), doesn’t always go well. Ask Bush’s subprime lender’s homeowners with their no-down payment adjustible mortgages. So Kucinich did’t go for the lenders? Good for him.

    I didn’t say I’d be supporting him as he’s got not much of a chance. And I do have problems with his antiAbortion position (flipped on that one…) but then he has changed for the better since cozying up to Shirley McClane et al….but ‘spiritality’ issues too… well. I like Mike Hukabee too.. and I am agnostic-atheist… hyphonated to leave a little wiggle room outta respect for religion.

  37. datadave says:

    Clevelanders apparently aren’t very pleased with the above reportage…(rightwing bilge)…she gave herself away when comparing MUNY with Soviet-style factories. Just an inappropriate analogy shows her true colors. I guess letters to the editor are going for Kucinich and against the political hit artist: http://blogs.clevescene.com/cnotes/2007/12/reader_scene_not_fit_for_cagel.php

  38. JD says:

    Reagan and Bush were even less in substance

    Not that we needed any more proof of your idiocy, but thanks for providing further evidence.

    Bush’s sub-prime lenders. Nice. You are aggressively ignorant, which, to quote B Moe, would be funny, if it was funny.

  39. datadave says:

    alright d’head. Your gushing love for Reagun Bush is overwhelming me. All you have said is that I am ‘ignorant’ w/o supporting your Love for Raygun/Bush. Remember Bush was crowing about how he was speading the virtues of homeownership under his regime…???? Remember another Mission Accomplished! w/o acknowledging that people were forced into criminally lending practices by Republican Wall Street sharks knowingly taking huge fees for “innovative” financial practices. People took Bush’s bait and wanted to become homeowners as (1) rents were growing in proportion of income and people w/o much economic sophistication with winks and nods from bankers were buying houses in order to recoup their lost income going into shelter.. hoping against the small print that they’d never have to pay those unlikely high rates in the future…of like 3000 thousand a month for a 200,000 house which in fact some are being forced to pay or lose all their equity……sadly they were duped by the millions by Bush’s supporters in the financial sector. I am not one of them. I still rent. I’ll pay cash or not at all.

    Now, for pure mendacity? How about the National Review coming out with a front page article telling us not to worry saying that Housing isn’t a problem because it’s such a “small part of the economy”….LIKE a Rat’s Ass! It’s the Biggest expense for almost every American.

  40. JD says:

    Your gushing love for Reagun Bush is overwhelming me. All you have said is that I am ‘ignorant’ w/o supporting your Love for Raygun/Bush

    Proof please. I am kind enough to afford President Clinton the respect of his title. Apparently, manners are not part of the leftist dogma.

    Is home ownership bad? Was President Bush out there telling people to take 125% loans, or interest only loans, or ARM’s, or buying more home than they could afford? People were forced into these loans, something they could have avoided had they been blessed with the enlightened wisdom bestowed upon you. datadave – You are woefully short of actual data to support your contentions.

    Fortunately, people do not turn to you for financial advise.

  41. datadave says:

    JD, still waiting on How Reagan saved us from Communism? I am really trying to help you. Let’s see….he regained ‘dignity’ for the office.. after Carter et al. or that he was a great actor. Still waiting for why all the “love”.

    Now add Bush…jeesum. Hmmm, He does have a sense of humor I’ll grant you. Okay what else? Hmmm, he is saving us from Hugo Chavez…the evil doer. Or GaY Marriage? I want a reason to feel your LOVE.

    now Huckabee? What if? We now owe 2 trillion just for our adventures in Iraq. How are you going to pay for that. We’ll Love Reagun/Bush when we get old and wonder why we don’t have decent roads nor infrastructure and a decaying environment.

  42. JD says:

    Did I assert that Reagan saved us from Communism? I was not dispute that statement, but know for a fact you are just making shit up. Ditto for my Bush-love. You can have Huckabee, he is a liberal after all.

  43. JD says:

    Actually, you are just a fucking idiot.

  44. datadave says:

    Yes, Bush has to take credit for the (dubious) upswing in homeownership. (as he and his supporters have repeatedly offered to raise his low poll numbers.) It’s called DeREGULATION. Let the scam artists prosper and don’t protect the consumer. Simple as that.

    I am not so sure “homeownership” is all that it’s cracked up to be. Only an “investment” that is making money for you should be encouraged if you were in business. I’d like to own a home too.. .but I got a cheap place to rent and several homes to visit with friends and family. Why bother? Usually the female gets it in a divorce anyway. I help pay for my g/f’s as it’s the right thing to do as I get a lot out of it. Otherwise, homeownership is a pain in the ass. Even though I can build one easily with all my tools and skills. For one thing my income hovers around the 40000 a year which is slightly above average but not enough to afford a house at the reasonable ‘authorized’ no more than third of your income or no more than 3 years income for a shelter (i.e. 120 K) which only limits me to ‘trailers’ in my neck of the woods. At my age: no thanks. With the cost of living radically going up with health care and gas at the top of the list…homeownership is becoming more of a liability.

    Anyway, I have to dump on you Authoritarians as that’s the only way to get your attention as you only dump on “liberals” likewise. It’s the language you understand.

  45. datadave says:

    well…saying reaganbush in negative terms seems to get your dander up…so I guess you ‘love’ ’em.

    you should the communist Gorbechev etc for being such lambs and liberals for not fighting to the death like your fellow right’wingers, Mussolini and Hitler. A slow sliding fall of communism had nothing to do with Reagun…and all to do with the Marshall Plan and Detent.. and JuoEnLai. Reagun only pissed off most of the intelligent world for his suppport for polluters, torturers in Latin America, rah rah Reagun. And J
    Edger Hoover, another “hero” for you.

    peace on you. gotta have a beauty rest for my fine day at work tomorrow….actually a very nice job with flex hours and a helper doing the hard work…and of course no health benefits.

  46. datadave says:

    Thank Gorbechev! not Reagan.

  47. datadave says:

    Huckabee a Liberal? whoa….that’s good. The world’s going to Hell. You’d better send some money to Hilary Quick!

  48. Pablo says:

    Bush’s sub-prime lenders? Republican Wall Street sharks? No, sweetheart, those are Silky’s.

    Democratic presidential contender John Edwards has investing ties to subprime lenders who are foreclosing on victims of Katrina, according to a report published Friday.

  49. datadave says:

    Edwards couldn’t even best Dick Cheney in a debate. He’s a loser. Next candidate!

  50. datadave says:

    g
    nite…nice visiting you all

  51. Pablo says:

    Edwards is a multimillionaire with investments in sub prime lenders who happen to be foreclosing on Katrina victims. Next strawman!

  52. JD says:

    datadave – Get back on your meds.

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