Oh what a tangled web and all that.
I have nothing more to say on this matter, really, but I will offer one parting shot: is there anybody anywhere who has achieved more undeserved notoriety than Greenwald (myself excluded)?
I think it has something to do with that nasally, pompous hangdog thing he’s got going. Just impossible to look away. Like visual crack for freakophiles.
And then of course, there’s the fact that he’s been pushed by the left (and Mona, and Cole, and Sullivan, and Henley) as a “true conservative libertarian” — you know, the kind who joins Kos’ Townhouse list, and spends all his time bashing conservatives and agitating for progressive positions.
If it weren’t so absurd, it would be positively absurdist.
And yeah, there’s a difference.
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update: Is Greenwald really Mona?
And does anyone beside Russ Feingold really care at this point?
So, Glen is like alphie over at Patterico? A “staunch Republican” who has never had anything less than vitriol directed at anything the GOP or a Republican/Conservative says or does?
“I think it has something to do with than nasally, pompous hangdog thing he’s got going. Just impossible to look away.”
Jeff,
I think it’s more related to the all-too-common tendency to peek at the contents of a Kleenex after clearing your beezer. You know what a slimey mess it’ll be, but one looks, anyway.
Like someday, maybe….a diamond!
Cordially…
If it weren’t so absurd, it would be positively absurdist.
::holds head; moans::
Ok, lemme see if I can remember this stuff. Absurdist theater, like Ionesco and junk, is absurdity performed deliberately to illustrate the nonsensicality of human conversation, and therefore is starkly self-aware.
And therefore makes sense. “Why yes, I can see that Mr. Smith and Mrs. Smith are merely talking past each other, neither saying anything worth listening to, all prattle and no substance. It’s just like real life!”*
Whereas Gleen(s) et al. are wholly unaware of the absurdity of their communications. Thereby rendering it bleak pathos. Or worse. Mendacity.
And the bald soprano?
She always wears her hair in the same style.
Mona had been suggested as puppet back in the time of cholera and sockpuppetiing. It was a face-saving fiction that got traction, despite the Cabana-boy admission.
The emails came out of Glenn’s house, and out of Glenn. Like that nose stuff.
Reverse inverse sockpuppeting proprasockistsophistry
Only a liberal will be able to perform the mental gymnastics required to figure out that phrase. Brilliant!
Sorry for the delay.
What’d I miss?
Not much. We were all just kinda standing around.
Did you bring the beer?
Beer? Wouldn’t Godot bring a nice Loire Valley white?
I’ve got absinthe.
If Jeff has some lime Jell-o we can get the shooters started. Chicks dig absinthe and lime jello shooters.
Glen is as always, sophist-icated. Emphasis on ‘sophist’.
Gleen is now demanding information! ACHTUNG! YOU MUST COMPLY!
Ah, no, actually. Fuck off, Gleen.
Godot:
Now that you’re here, shouldn’t we start buying sweaters for Satan? Or Greenwald(s) and Moore, seeing as how they’ll need ’em in a bit?
Glenn is almost into Rather territory here.
Check out his UPDATE IV and see that it’s a spoofed email (emphasis : mine)
Received: from INTZEXEBHIZN01.iraq.centcom.mil ([10.70.20.11]) by 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
Those of you who aren’t computer geeks don’t realize why that’s significant. Think of a 10. IP address as a “555” telephone number.
What’s your excuse Godot?
Taking a Krapp?
It’s not uncommon to have your back-end mail servers on a non-routable private IP block, Monster. 10.0.0.0 is one such, as is 172.16.0.0 (short block) and 192.168.0.0
The sending server’s IP address does in fact resolve to a cencom.mil mail server, probably an SMTP gateway. Looks like a sendmail installation from the server version announcement.
The internal boxes look to be running MS’s mailer (Microsoft SMTPSVC).
Short explanation: I could have sent that mail, given access to the internal mailservers. Drop a file in the server’s outbound folder, no prob Bob.
So could the Colonel, via his mail client.
Status: inconclusive.
And scars. Chicks dig scars.
Hey, the grill’s ready. Who was supposed to bring the brats?
“Don’t you strike that child!”
— The Bank Dick (starring W.C. Fields)
Actually, there are two differences. You are using “absurdist” in an extended sense since normally something would not become “absurdist” merely by being less absurd.
I think Russ Feingold really owes it to GiGi to get to the bottom of this. Getting to the bottom evidently being a bit part of Greenwald’s bio. NTTAWWT ETC.
Cordially…
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. She just couldn’t understand why Colonel Boylan would email Glenn when so many things are wrong in this country. “Doesn’t Colonel Boylan care about us anymore?” she asked pitifully.
I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why Colonel Boylan seems to be abandoning his country. “Honey, I think his boss, General Pertraus, told Colonel Boylan to email Glenn in order to keep himself out of the newspapers. You see, he wasn’t sure if he was going to be arrested today or not, and so he planned the Colonel Boylan email ahead of time just in case…â€Â
I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult – the rage and feelings of helplessness were just too much. I think my daughter could tell something was wrong. I found myself at such a loss for words – nothing made any sense; nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, “Honey, I just don’t know – I don’t know what’s going on in this country anymore…”
When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears, “Daddy” she said, “why is Colonel Boylan doing this to the country?” Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes.
For once she had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think it’s too much, but seeing the strength in my young daughter’s voice helped me to get through.
I certainly hope Greenwald really is Mona. It would be tragic if she’s a real person.
1. Mona being Greenwald would not make her a real person;
2. Mona being Mona would not make her a real person.
Paris Hilton, though she may be GiGi in drag.
“…is there anybody anywhere who has achieved more undeserved notoriety than Greenwald (myself excluded)?”
Who the hell are you?
You are not in, or even close to Greenwald’s league.
BenPope – The league that Gren Gleenwald plays in is one that none of us aspire to be. We like having intergrity, being honest, and not getting rammed in the ass.
NTTAWWT
Hell, I don’t even want to play the game, let alone be in a league.
It’s almost funny to see some of Greenwald’s fellow poofs, including Andrew Sullivan and John Cole in particular, posting their defense of the slimeball. Cole is particularly inarticulate, consistent with his usual style.
Who the hell are you?
Careful–Jeff is the web version of the line “I have become Death, the destroyer of blogs.”
Admire the heads adorning his rec room wall, and note the one reserved for the Sock-Puppeteer, who is way above his merits. For the time being.
Cordially…
Is it just me, or did BenPope disagree with Jeff’s implication that his own notoriety is also undeserved?
Who in the hell is BenPope? Who the fuck do you think you are?
A quick google search shows that benpope is a pedophilic Euroweenie that uses a Mac, lives with his parents, likes to play video games, and is auditioning for Nathan Lane’s role in the remake of The Birdcage.
No, that’s Ben Dover.
Easy mistake to make.
Greenwald’s league? The roster is long, but you can never get more than a couple of players to show at any given game.
that nasally, pompous hangdog thing he’s got going.
Gleen looks like Beaker from the Muppet Show. He makes as much sense, anyway.
Sorry, Michelle, but you’ll have to explain how it is that Mona’s “wingnutty” sledgehammering make her one of Gleen’s sockpuppets. Then I’ll contact Mona, we’ll have a nice chat, reminisce, and forget about the whole thing.
I liked Che’s comment, but for the life of me I can’t remember where that one came from. Was it HuffPo?
Gleen looks like Beaker from the Muppet Show.
But Beaker was cute and cuddly!
michele/chips/dorita is not worthy of your time, Dan. I thought that unless Mona was in Brazil, or unless one of the Gleen’s cabana boys is a Mona, that it has been established that the sockpuppetry was by one or all of the cabana boys. I suppose that it is possible that Mona was in Brazil, but Mona would also brag about being so close to conservative greatness.
dorita actually has a redeeming quality – she does not like Mona. Kudos. I knew if I was patient, I would discover that elusive quality.
CheChe
thanks Mike. that’s classic.
Just to clarify things, Monster is right about GG’s fake email, and mojo is wrong, at least insofar as the internal IP address of the mail server is concerned.
Most data networks these days use IP networks like 10.0.0.0 or 192.168.0.0. And these networks are routable, just not on the Internet. If you have a large “private” network (such as CENTCOM must certainly have), IP schemes like this are made to order.
But, you can’t use these addresses on the Internet. So your Internet gateway does this little thing called NAT, or natural address translation. If you have traffic that needs to get on the Internet (email or whatever), the gateway “translates” your internal 10.x.x.x IP address to a valid Internet IP address, a range of said addresses having been provided to you by your ISP and configured in your gateway.
But for damn sure the IP address that would appear for one’s email server in the the email header would NOT be the internal or “private” IP address.
Status: for whatever reason the email’s header was doctored.
dorita – I “discovered” that you have A redeeming quality, you little twatwaffle.
Since it was a new discovery for me, it does not really matter if some other person somewhere else knew it, twatwaffle.
Congrats on being mildly coherent today. Coherent comments are so much more fun.
Michelines/doritos/chips … I know you as well as I care too. You are unstable, as has been shown in nearly every interaction I have ever had with you. You are generally incoherent, with today being the only notable exception. You stalked Sparkle, and now nearly devote an entire website to Sparkle, essentially stalking from a distance. It pains me that people with your mindset are often the first contact the people from overseas may have with actual Americans. The list of things I know about you is more than sufficient to base my opinions on. Maybe you are a good person. If so, you have done a remarkable job of hiding that fact from everyone.
Good Day, Sir.
Jesus, what does it take with you insensitive wingnuts?
That has got to be one of the moonbat quotes of the century.
Michelle opines:
Cave Bear  you are still flogging that horse? You must have a day job. Or you are very slow. Like JD.
No, actually I have a night job, and came across that little gem earlier this evening. I’ve only been doing this sort of thing (data network engineering) for about 25 years, so I could not let it pass. As for “beating a dead horse”, sez who? I saw a grand total of three posts on the subject of the phony IP address, mine being the third. I don’t know you from next Wednesday, but after this maybe JD is right and you are a bit on the incoherent side.
Michelle vs. Mona?
Someone want to help me set the cage up for this match?
Don’t look at me.
“Gleen looks like Beaker from the Muppet Show.”
“But Beaker was cute and cuddly!”
Dr. Bunsen Honeydew has some ‘splainin’ to do!
OK, please learn how to read mail headers. Tip: read received headers in reverse order.
The DOD uses a special version of MS Exchange. The IP listed is the internal IP of the server or workstation that routed the message to the SMTP gateway.
If you see this:
Received: from INTZEXEBHIZN01.iraq.centcom.mil ([10.70.20.11]) by 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
And decide the mail has originated from an open relay, you Fail.
LMC , I would please like to learn to read mail headers. I sort of know how, actually, but only in certain contexts do I rely on them much. I want to ask what you think of this.
we don’t know, based on the header, that it actually came from a military computer to get to that military server. Finding an open SMTP port on a forward facing server isn’t all that hard… particularly, as I say, a hastily set up Exchange server, which 214.13.200.111 readily ID’d itself as.
Well, I’ll admit he’s wised up and stopped linking here.
Getting his ass handed to him so many times makes one more eager to go after soft targets, I suppose.
As for who I am, ask around, pal. You don’t hang around on our side of the ideological divide much, do you?
The private IP’s were in the “Received From:” headers.
And I’m NEVER wrong. I’m just sometimes a little short on being right.
But not this time.
He could ask on the other side too. The answers would be simultaneously vile and hilarious.
is there anybody anywhere who has achieved more undeserved notoriety than Greenwald?
It was handed to him on a silver platter by right wing bloggers.
I smell truth.
wingnut bloggers, Christopher. Let’s get with the program.
Christopher – I respectfully disagree, unless handing to him on a silver platter means that he was exposed for being the lying decietful piece of toe jam that he and his cabana boys are.
Yes. By paying his hooting and gibbering any attention, by linking and commenting on his shrieking for attention, you gave him exactly what he wanted. You paid him off just like a parent handing a child throwing a tantrum what he wants.
We all learned in grade school to ignore the guy that’s causing trouble just to get attention. Why do so many bloggers forget that rule? The NYT columnists were disappearing in any real sense, they had less and less readership and influence every month they were ignored. Now they are open to read again and what do we see? Big bloggers with “did you see what crazy stuff X NYT columnist said today??”
Ignore them. Deny them attention. Watch them wither. The left wing blogs, the really big ones, primarily feed on right wing blogger posts. Without that they have nothing to write about. Stop giving them so much credence and attention, resist the blog trolls.
Re Che che
I’ve always wanted to say this regarding that….I think the guy is a child molester that didn’t finish his fantasy…..I know,sick thought,but consider it…
Christopher Taylor?
I may not be the smartest one here, In fact I think Happyfeets bunnies have a higher IQ, But if we ignore them,isn’t that the same as allowing their voices to be heard with no opposition?? No eal truthtelling and letting fact NOT be twisted into pretzel like shapes,salted eaten and shit out into a sec-proggs fantasy world??….sorry sir,I’d rather point and laugh
Crap….REAL….Jeff? would you please allow us lower light the preview function?
Authoritarian cultists bloggers. Let’s get with it, people!