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Without the Roots of Love [Karl]

ABC, simple as Do Re Mi:

While she is winning wide support in nationwide samples among Democrats in the race for their party’s presidential nomination, half of likely voters nationwide said they would never vote for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, a new Zogby Interactive poll shows.

Sure, Zogby polls are always a bit suspect.  But that result has been consistent all year long, and not just from Zogby.   She has the highest name recognition of any candidate for POTUS, so it’s unlikely those numbers are going to shift dramatically.

Let me show you what it’s all about.

38 Replies to “Without the Roots of Love [Karl]”

  1. happyfeet says:

    This means that more energy will be required to drive the Republican nominee’s negatives higher. Clinton won’t have to spend a dime on that, but NPR will probably end up paying overtime.

  2. psychologizer says:

    Doesn’t matter. A hell of a lot of libertarian and social-con Republican “likelies” won’t be voting in a Hillary v. Hillary election.

    Verus Rudy, I mean.

    Rudy. Totally different Hillary.

    Person, I mean.

  3. happyfeet says:

    People should take special note to the extent to which the MSM has been keeping its Giuliani powder dry. Kerik alone is a mortal shiv.

  4. Dan Collins says:

    That woman has some amazing special effects.

  5. The_Real_JeffS says:

    I’d vote for the Wicked Witch of the West over Hillary any time.

  6. Carin says:

    the most liberal person my husband knows says he won’t be voting for Hillary. She scares even HIM. Really, that she has come this far … the MSM should be so proud of itself.

  7. McGehee says:

    I think I know why liberals won’t vote for her.

    (Yeah, I know — but when most of my traffic is from search-engine hits on posts from 2002…)

  8. happyfeet says:

    Meanwhile NPR keeps insisting on a Giuliani/Romney race, so it’s all about the evangelicals and they can keep hitting the abortion button. Report after report elides Thompson. He worries them I think.

  9. Dan Collins says:

    What’s her platform, Jeff S?

  10. happyfeet says:

    she’s very green

  11. Great Mencken's Ghost says:

    This is the problem ALL the Democrats have. The Democratic controlled Congress is polling at 11% right now.

    ALL the Dem candidates for the WH come from Congress.

    So the best Hillary and the Democrats can say for sure is that she is the most popular member of a group of people EVERYONE despises…

  12. happyfeet says:

    Also that’s an online survey, and from what I gather Obama has the more affluent libs in his camp right now, and Hillary is aiming more at the wretched refuse types.

  13. Rick Ballard says:

    “are always a bit suspect”

    No more so than a $7 bill. Rasmussen still has her negative rating at around 46% so this one stays within the MOE – it’s probably not an outlier (in Zogby’s cas – an out and outliar).

    I was wondering if Jindal should sent the Dark Lord a nice thank you card for driving all the blacks in LA into the sea so I checked census data. No change in the racial makeup of LA, so no card necessary. That 11% approval number seems to be holding up (or down) pretty well. If Nan and Harry can just stay focused and continue to make decisions as they have been, ’08 might turn out to be an intresting election.

  14. Dan Collins says:

    Rick, if there’s no change in the racial makeup, nobody informed Politico of it.

  15. Karl says:

    BTW, HRC is also a drag in the 31 Democratic-held House districts regarded as most imperiled in 2008.

  16. Rick Ballard says:

    Dan,

    Easy to check. Round to integer and it’s 32%. The MOE difference of .74/.94 has precisely 0% impact on Jindal’s victory. I don’t read Politico. There ain’t enough penicillin available to cure what it might cause.

  17. Rick Ballard says:

    Karl,

    That Lake poll is sort of interesting. She generally does a good job and is well respected. I’m puzzled by the fact that more isn’t being made of the Boomer/Geezer cohort grouping slipping into the minority in ’08. It’s a huge shift and it’s being met with just about absolute silence.

    Another reason not to read the “experts”, I suppose.

  18. Karl says:

    More an argument for reading the “experts” instead of relying on the MSM to badly interpret them.

    It’s also interesting to me that the Dem field clearly already believes HRC has won the nomination, as no one — esp. Obama — is pushing the point that polls consistently show a near majority not only view HRC unfavorably, but will not vote for her. Obama talking about how he brings people together is not going to cut it; if he thought he really had a chance he would be explicitly hammering on the anti-HRC sentiment in the gen’l electorate.

  19. eLarson says:

    She apparently used a little kitty as a political tool. Poor Socks.

  20. geoffb says:

    “Desperately Seeking Perot”, the new Hillary Clinton Video.

  21. Karl says:

    Or Bloomberg, or that third-party Christian opposing Rudy, etc. That’s a point raided by my Pub entry, linked in the main post.

    Also note that in the current head-to-heads, even the polls showing HRC beating Rudy, Fred!, etc., never show her getting MoE above 50%. Not good for someone with near-universal name ID.

  22. Sticky B says:

    Looking at the Hillary laugh track on youtube, I’m struck by how out of character it seems for her. She’s laughing her ass off at innapropriate times in situations that are not particularly humerous for the same reason that algore sexually assaulted tipper on stage and bowed up on Bush during a debate back in ’00. And the same reason the Boston blueblood, Kerry, spent the fall of ’04 running around the midwest in a barn jacket. Some bunch of experts decided that they all had an unlikeable trait and were/are trying to fix it. The experts correctly percieved that al was pasionless and spineless, so we were subjected to two of the most unusual moments in American television history: al dryhumping his old lady on stage at the convention and then invading Bush’s personal space and puffing his mantits out at the Texan during a debate. They correctly percieved that the rest of the nation is uncomfortable with gigalos from Mass who masquerade as a senator and hicked him up a little. I guess he drew the line at spitting Red Man while campaigning. And they have correctly percieved that Ms. Rhodham-Clinton is an unusually cold-hearted and vicious bitch and they feel like getting her to laughing for the cameras will negate some of the damage done by her natural demeanor. But like most one trick ponies, she just can’t seem to get it quite right. Unfortunately, her off kilter behavior will become a campaign issue overshadowing her off kilter plans for America after she’s been handed the reins.

  23. I’ll say here what I’ve said around the net in other places: Senator Clinton will not win the primary let alone presidency. Too many people really really don’t like her.

  24. JD says:

    If 48% of the public will never vote for her, it seems unlikely that she will be able to create the addtional 3% she would need in a 2-way election.

  25. McGehee says:

    If 48% of the public will never vote for her, it seems unlikely that she will be able to create the addtional 3% she would need in a 2-way election.

    She’s probably counting on most of the never-vote-for-hers being slight minorities in big states like California and New York.

    Remember (how could we forget?) it’s not the national popular vote that gets you elected president — it’s the popular vote in 50 individual state elections (and DC) and how they add up Electoral College-wise.

    In theory a candidate could get elected with 25% plus one in the national popular vote.

    And that would be just fine with the same people who claim Bush “stole” the 2000 election.

  26. Karl says:

    McGehee,

    My guess would be that HRC hopes the “never” voters are concentrated in the solidly red states. But the study on those 31 swing districts and the national head-to-heads tend to support the hypothesis that her problem is a bit more evenly distributed than she would like.

  27. mojo says:

    The Substitute School Teacher From Hell. With nuclear strike capability.

    What could go wrong?

  28. geoffb says:

    “The Substitute School Teacher From Hell”

    That’s perfect!

  29. McGehee says:

    I call her “Big Mother.”

  30. Karl says:

    What would that make Bill?

  31. BJTexs says:

    Cigars ‘r Us

  32. McGehee says:

    What would that make Bill?

    I can only assume Hillary wears a bag over her head.

  33. swan says:

    I would love to have mine at the top of this list. It is called Klok and can be found on my blog at finding a medical transcription job

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