{"id":7980,"date":"2006-12-15T02:12:00","date_gmt":"2006-12-15T09:12:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/?p=7980"},"modified":"2006-12-15T02:12:00","modified_gmt":"2006-12-15T09:12:00","slug":"from-the-comments-its-jeff-g-updated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/?p=7980","title":{"rendered":"From the comments… it’s Jeff G [UPDATED]"},"content":{"rendered":"

The following was posted by Jeff<\/a> in the comments to this post<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n

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\nJust found the article<\/a>.  It quotes me as saying that the AP has been using a fake source since at least April to report on Shia violence against Sunnis.  Nobody has turned up Jamil to this point, so I stick by that.\n<\/p>\n

\nThe crux of the article, though, is that we wingnut warbloggers seize on a teensy fabrication and blow it all out of proportion.  Fake but accurate, you see\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u20ac\u009dthe story of violence is what\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2s important, the big picture, not little picayune details like phony sources.  Or, if to be charitable, let\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2s call these sources what I\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2m sure Boehlert, in his private moments, rationalizes them as: composites.\n<\/p>\n

\nBut is Boehlert correct?  I don\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2t believe I spent an inordinate amount of time covering the story, but I most certainly do believe it significant when a story like this comes up.  Boehlert and his Media Matters \u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00c5\u201cfact checkers\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00c2\u009d hope to present this as a straw that we desperate warmongers are clinging to at the tail end of a failed war.  But our point is, how can people like Boehlert be so sure these stories are outliers? We\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2ve seen several other stories of media fabrication and enemy propaganda posted as news.  And those are just the ones we know about.\n<\/p>\n

\nSo yes, it\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2s true, one or two instances don\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2t make a trend.  But we\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2ve long surpassed that threshold, and now a number of us are concerned that this is indeed a media trend.  From there, speculating on how phony media reports could be having an impact on domestic support for the war is hardly the stuff of conspiracy mongers (as the article tries to present us. Hell, from the article Boehlert wrote, you\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2d think I was Eric Rudolph or some such).\n<\/p>\n

\nAnyway, here\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2s one of the comments I pulled from the thread, which should tell you everything you need to know about those who haunt media matters and consider it an information clearinghouse:
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\n The wingnuts are the ones that really hate our freedoms, not the Muslims. The Muslims may disagree with our cultural norms and the way we live our lives here, but they are not really out to change us. Much of what we have they also want.\n<\/p>\n

\n The ones that really hate our freedoms are the Malkins, Coulters, Becks, etc. They want a dictator to lead us and tell us what is acceptable to think. They want all of us to have a herd mentality and turn on any that stray from the official line. They are more than willing to use the Constitution to give themselves the power to take our Constitutional rights away from us.\n<\/p>\n

\n There is no \u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00c5\u201cClash of Civilizations,\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00c2\u009d there is a clash of cultures. We can\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2t have a real debate with them; they don\u00c3\u00a2\u00e2\u201a\u00ac\u00e2\u201e\u00a2t want to recognize any rightness on our part. Their hope is that they can shout loud enough to cow us into submission.\n<\/p>\n

\n * – BearCountry \/ Tuesday December 12, 2006 07:33:02 PM EST
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\nA clearer case of muddleheaded thinking, wilful blindness, and transparent projection you are not likely to find elsewhere.\n<\/p>\n

\nIt is like a lump of pure lefty coal that has been held onto so tightly that it now sparkles like a progressive diamond.\n<\/p>\n

\nupdate<\/i><\/b>:  Just received this hysterical email from one Kevin Woodman.  I must share:<\/p>\n

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Very funny!
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\nI actually laughed out loud!
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\nSo if it’s a lie it’s OK because the “Facts” are accurate? My God, did you even read what you wrote? Bush made up his “Jamil” too to get his point across to start the war yet you and the rest of the media tear into him for lying.  So let me understand this….it’s only lying if a conservative does it.  If a liberal does it, it’s called “little picayune details”\n<\/p>\n

\nWhat a joke!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\nMethinks Kevin misunderstood.  Completely.  And with a very embarrassing insistence. \n<\/p>\n

\nNow then.  Who wants to wager that when it finally dawns on ol’ Kevin (thanks to my return email) that it is actually Boehlert and his buddies on that side of the aisle that are pushing the “fake but accurate” school of journalism, he won’t apologize for making such an ass of himself?\n<\/p>\n

\nTakers?  I’m giving 15-to-1 odds…
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The following was posted by Jeff in the comments to this post. Just found the article.  It quotes me as saying that the AP has been using a fake source since at least April to report on Shia violence against Sunnis.  Nobody has turned up Jamil to this point, so I stick by that. The crux of the article, though, is that we wingnut warbloggers seize on a teensy fabrication<\/p>\n

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