{"id":3067,"date":"2004-09-25T15:24:32","date_gmt":"2004-09-25T22:24:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/?p=3067"},"modified":"2004-09-25T15:24:32","modified_gmt":"2004-09-25T22:24:32","slug":"tell-me-lies-tell-me-sweet-little-lies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/?p=3067","title":{"rendered":"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Reacting to <a href=\"http:\/\/story.news.yahoo.com\/news?tmpl=story&amp;u=\/ap\/20040925\/ap_on_el_pr\/bush&amp;cid=694&amp;ncid=1473\">this<\/a> ludicrously titled AP story (&#8220;Bush Twists Kerry&#8217;s Words on Iraq&#8221;), a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oliverwillis.com\/node\/view\/723\">certain<\/a> Britney Spears <i>aficionado<\/i> surfaces from his Fruity Pebbles long enough to type, &#8220;George Bush Is A LIAR.&nbsp;  This man is pathological.&nbsp; To date, Senator Kerry has said that Bush &#8216;misled&#8217;, &#8216;deceived&#8217;, etc. Sometime soon, Senator, you&#8217;re going to have to say it: your opponent is a liar.&#8221;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAnd what is this big lie that prompted a certain collector of Beyonce action figures (and accessories) to rend his cloak?&nbsp; Why, this:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>[Bush] stated flatly that Kerry had said earlier in the week &#8220;he would prefer the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein to the situation in Iraq today.&#8221; The line drew gasps of surprise from Bush&#8217;s audience in a Racine, Wis., park. &#8220;I just strongly disagree,&#8221; the president said.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nBut Kerry never said that. In a speech at New York University on Monday, he called Saddam &#8220;a brutal dictator who deserves his own special place in hell.&#8221; He added, &#8220;The satisfaction we take in his downfall does not hide this fact: We have traded a dictator for a chaos that has left America less secure.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nLeaving aside a certain YooHoo lover&#8217;s decision to exclude the line immediately preceding the excerpt (&#8220;It was not unlike the spin that Kerry and his forces sometimes place on Bush&#8217;s words.&#8221;), let me suggest that Bush&#8217;s statement is not a &#8220;lie&#8221; (and that Bush is not &#8220;A LIAR&#8221;), but that it is in fact a reasonable interpretation of&#8212;and extrapolation from&#8212;Kerry&#8217;s current position on Iraq: that the longstanding US policy of containment worked; that the Senator would not have enforced with military action the UN Security Council resolutions Hussein flouted (before he <i>would <\/i>have enforced them; but that position is, like, <i>sooo<\/i> two weeks ago); and that America is <i>less safe now<\/i>  than it was when Saddam Hussein was in power (and would a certain fan of Clinton Portis argue that Kerry does <i>not <\/i>&#8221;prefer&#8221; America be <i>more <\/i>safe?&nbsp; And does it not follow that if America was safer before Saddam was toppled, then America would be safer with Saddam in power?&#8212;or, as President Bush put it, that Senator Kerry &#8220;would prefer the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein to the situation in Iraq today&#8221;?)\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe point is, this endless game of semantic gotcha is tiresome. Listen:&nbsp; anyone who can&#8217;t figure out what Bush meant is too hermeneutically challenged to be commenting on serious matters. And those who <i>can<\/i> figure it out&#8212;but who choose instead to pounce on stump rhetoric not first vetted by a lawyer and a professor of linguistics&#8212;are intentionally disingenuous, which is far worse an offense.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nI know it&#8217;s tough to find things to blog on everyday, Oliver, but come <i>on<\/i>:&nbsp; Didn&#8217;t Jessica Alba have something new pierced this week?\n<\/p>\n<p>\n****<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<b><i>update<\/i><\/b>:&nbsp; cowed by the organized attack muscle of the RNC-controlled right side of the blogosphere (which is not to be confused with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deanesmay.com\/posts\/1095656126.shtml\" title=\"fiercely non-partisan left side\">fiercely non-partisan left side<\/a>, ethically our superior, yet powerless against the right&#8217;s orchestrated lies), the AP has changed the story title.&nbsp; The latest title reads, &#8220;Bush, Kerry Twisting Each Other&#8217;s Words.&#8221;  Guess they&#8217;re going for that whole &#8220;cycle of violence&#8221; vibe (h\/t <a href=\"http:\/\/www.proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?\/weblog\/entry\/16770\/#56768\" title=\"SVJ\">SVJ<\/a>)\n<\/p>\n<p>\n****<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<b><i>update 2<\/i>:<\/b>  Oliver responds to my argument by noting that I crave attention (which is true, though I&#8217;d prefer if it came from someone a little less likely to eat me with gravy and slaw and a half-dozen biscuits).&nbsp; He then makes the point that, &#8220;Dear Leader didn&#8217;t say anything resembling &#8216;Senator Kerry&#8217;s words would have us believe&#8217; (not that the sorry excuse for a President could get such a complex sentence out), but blatantly <i>lied <\/i>and blatantly claimed that Kerry <b>said<\/b>: &#8216;he would prefer the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein to the situation in Iraq today&#8217; [at which point, we know from the AP story, the conservative troglodytes in the audience dropped their Bibles and audibly gasped, so sure surprised were they that the good Senator <i>would say such a thing directly<\/i>! &#8211; <i>ed<\/i>.]  Look. Black is black and white is white, and George W. Bush is a heck of a liar, and Goldstein&#8217;s a hell of an idiot apologist. John Kerry never said that. He just didn&#8217;t.&#8221;\n<\/p>\n<p>\nOliver then presents an example which, not surprisingly, misses the entire point of my post.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nBottom line:&nbsp; in Oliver&#8217;s world, assembling on-the-record assertions and using them to draw a conclusion is an unfair representation of the assertions as they existed at the time of their initial pristine utterance.&nbsp; In Oliver&#8217;s world, construing is lying.&nbsp; Paraphrasing is prevarication.&nbsp; Distilling is devious.&nbsp; And Cheez Doodles&trade; are a food group.&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\n****<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<b><i>update 3<\/i><\/b>:&nbsp; More <a href=\"http:\/\/powerlineblog.com\/archives\/007958.php\" title=\"powerline\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.littletinylies.com\/archives\/002780.html\" title=\"Hog on Ice\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/valvis.blogspot.com\/2004\/09\/ap-bush-is-liar.html\" title=\"Jim Valvis\">here<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.russellwardlow.net\/blog\/archives\/2004\/09\/lets_read_some.html\" title=\"Mean Mr. Mustard 2.0\">here <\/a>(<a href=\"http:\/\/lashawnbarber.com\/archives\/2004\/09\/25\/mess\/\" title=\"h\/t\">h\/t<\/a> LaShawn Barber)\n<\/p>\n<p>\n****<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<b><i>update 4<\/i><\/b>:&nbsp; Of the AP&#8217;s change of headline, Willis writes, &#8220;Jeez. And now the AP has been bullied&#8212;yet again&#8212;into retitling their headlines. It&#8217;s now &#8216;Bush, Kerry Twisting Each Other&#8217;s Words&#8217;. What &#8216;liberal&#8217; media was that again? Please&#8221;&#8212; not far from what I suggested in update 1 would be the likely Willisian response (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?\/weblog\/entry\/16770\/#56774\" title=\"Matt Moore\">h\/t<\/a> MM).&nbsp; Chalk it up to predictability (rather than some extraordinarily prescience on my part).\n<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reacting to this ludicrously titled AP story (&#8220;Bush Twists Kerry&#8217;s Words on Iraq&#8221;), a certain Britney Spears aficionado surfaces from his Fruity Pebbles long enough to type, &#8220;George Bush Is A LIAR.&nbsp; This man is pathological.&nbsp; To date, Senator Kerry has said that Bush &#8216;misled&#8217;, &#8216;deceived&#8217;, etc. Sometime soon, Senator, you&#8217;re going to have to say it: your opponent is a liar.&#8221; And what is this big lie that prompted<\/p>\n<div class=\"belowpost\"><a class=\"btnmore\" href=\"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/?p=3067\">Read More<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":9196393,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3067","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3067","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/9196393"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3067"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3067\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3067"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3067"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/proteinwisdom.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3067"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}