Who knew that monitoring the @glennbeck feed could provide such entertainment?
This morning, I was the one who initiated contact after seeing this:
a38176c4589d207 — Remember when Jesus saw a homeless man and said “A rising tide lifts all ships,” & the homeless man got up and found a job?
Yeah, that’s his handle. Claims it’s not a mistake. Thanks for using up all those characters, dOOd.
Couldn’t resist a bit of snark:
dicentra63 — Remember when Jesus went to Herod and Pilate and told them to set up Welfare?
I’ve been waiting to use that line for a long time. However, the point was lost on this kid (whose avatar clearly shows him to be a kid), but I thought he was one of those Lefty atheists who quote scripture as an accusation of hypocrisy or otherwise to induce shame.
Turns out I was wrong.
a38176c4589d207 — I do, wasn’t that right after he fed 5000 with the disciples own food? Sounds like welfare and redistribution of wealth to me
dicentra63 — Gave their own stuff freely; didn’t force others to give. GB gives 20% of income to poor. You? If @glennbeck preaches chastity, will you throw Bible in his face too? You need a better argument against @glennbeck than hypocrisy. Especially since you’re accusing him of inconsistency.
a38176c4589d207 — In this case He did. Matt 14:13-21
dicentra63 — That scripture does not show Jesus talking to the gubmint. He never spoke on role of gubmint.
a38176c4589d207 — nope, but Cons Christians need to realize that the constitution, bill of rights, and free market are not the greatest goods
dicentra63 — True that Gospel outranks Constitution; not true that gubmint welfare is mandated by scripture. YMMV. Compassion MUST be tempered by wisdom or you end up with cruelty. Culture of dependency makes gubmint an enabler.
a38176c4589d207 — Based on the gospel if I had to chose between welfare and the free market I would chose the former every single time
dicentra63 — Rush & Glenn agree that we should support helpless. Free market creates wealth we can share, else we have Detroit.
a38176c4589d207 — GB is as big a hypocrite as you and me…it’s not about hypocrisy
dicentra63 — “Hypocrisy” frequently misued. It’s when you feign piety but don’t really believe. We’re all sinners, not hypocrites.
a38176c4589d207 — it’s about coming to terms with the irreconcilability of the Gospel and our earthly values
dicentra63 — Glenn is LDS, which used to be collectivist but it didn’t work; LDS has immense welfare system that creates less dependency
a38176c4589d207 — to some degree, I agree with you; that’s why I like Tolstoy: he was a #Christian #anarchist
dicentra63 — If gubmint ran a welfare program like LDS, I’d support it, but gubmint can’t. Gubmint can only provide counterfeit. Tolstoy rocked! I don’t want gubmint doing our Christian duty because it separates us from needy. Better if we give direct
a38176c4589d207 — Then what is the role of government? Is gov’t only there to protect us from itself?
I wasn’t sure what that meant: protect us from itself. I let it go, though. Can’t fight all battles.
dicentra63 — Europe has welfare state, people don’t give to charity. Empty souls, sense of entitlement, cultural D-cay, selfishness.
a38176c4589d207 — but doesn’t the free market enable selfishness? Can’t we construct an economy based on selflessness instead?
Isn’t that sweet? An economy can be constructed, and we can choose which virtue to base it upon. That’s definitely one of the most pervasive errors lefties make, especially among the young and naive.
a38176c4589d207 — And besides, “socialists” like Guy Debord and Jean Baudrillard argue that materialism leads to emptiness, banality, and decay
dicentra63 — Jesus never commented on gubmint. Gubmint is for natl defense, currency, rule of law; gubmint cannot CARE.
a38176c4589d207 — No he didnt, that’s why–if anything by default–he was probably an anarchist
dicentra63 — Free market LEVERAGES self interest, permits greed. To base econ on generosity, U need virtuous populace. But we are all fallen and can’t get up w/o divine intervention. Central power over so much attracts very bad people. Free market accepts that people suck, puts that suck to use. Also, recognizing ability of market to produce wealth is not the same as being materialistic. Render unto Caesar and all. I’m not materialistic but I know free market is best for free ppl.
a38176c4589d207 — then you are a defeatist.
And there it is. I’m a “defeatist” for taking the consequences of the Fall seriously. Another sign of the terminally naive. Also don’t understand the fixation with anarchy but whatevs.
dicentra63 — Anarchist? I doubt it. Anarchy soon gives way to strong controlling weak. Xtian = strong help weak. Xtians differ on degree of gubmint involvement in charity; honest disagreement. Glenn’s POLITICS are pro-free market. His religion dictates personal charity. Jesus wants us personally involved, not outsourcing Xtian duty to gubmint.
a38176c4589d207 — exactly; that’s why we should embrace anarchism!
dicentra63 — We should embrace anarchism? I said it leads to totalitarianism! I am not a defeatest; I just recognize the Fall.
a38176c4589d207 — Besides, there hasnt been a free market in the US since the creation of the ICC in 1887
dicentra63 — Then what RU railing against? Riddle me this: how do you make sure that everyone is selfless? How does changing system change people’s morals?
a38176c4589d207 — pun intended? lol . . . The gospels nurture our selflessness. There are other ways to affect [sic] change without institutions. I bet you would be surprised to know that socialists and anarchists favor decentralization as much as conservatives.
dicentra63 — Pun? Where? “socialists and anarchists favor decentralization” Anarchists yes, socialists, by definition no.
a38176c4589d207 — for the record: communism as we know it is not socialism; it is bureaucratic capitalism
And there it ended. I sure don’t know where he gets his terminology, but it’s not from any lexicon I recognize.









Comment by Pablo on 11/3 @ 3:18 am #
Nicely done, dicentra.
You could make the case that Beck’s politics align quite nicely with the a3 person’s. Which you could probably do with anyone, because of a3’s political incongruity. (Anarchy + welfare? Huh?)
a3 wants anarchy, Beck wants to throw them all out. Surely they could go turn over a few tables in the Temple together.
OK, I don’t know what to do with that.
Comment by dicentra on 11/3 @ 3:30 am #
Anarchy + welfare? Huh?
Either I was dealing with a total moron or I was being played. Who can tell anymore?
Comment by Pablo on 11/3 @ 5:03 am #
Could be he’s been watching Sons of Anarchy, and he’s just very confused.
Comment by No One You Know on 11/4 @ 11:03 am #
Who are these people that believe anarchy does not equal violence?
Captcha = administra wounded
Let’s hope………
Comment by Vlad the Impala on 11/4 @ 11:38 am #
Congratulations on achieving a semblance of a conversation. Too bad ta3 only wanted to score points, not come to any understanding IMHO.
BTW, di, how’d that Javascripting job end up?
Comment by BJTex on 11/4 @ 3:56 pm #
I’ve spoken in person to several people who fit the mold of your tweet friend, dicentra. They fit the mold of feelings centered christian who simply can’t accept the tenet of scriptural truth and need to massage and adapt it to meet their needs for justice or some such.
They tend to make me tired, is all.
Comment by mojo on 11/4 @ 4:47 pm #
“What, five thousand of you and nobody thought to bring a lunch? Oh no, no, let me get it! I think you people are missing the fucking point here - I didn’t come to be Jesus the Miracle Caterer!”
– Sam Kinison
Comment by geoffb on 11/8 @ 2:27 pm #
Anarchy, spamarchy, he is, at least coming across, as one of the true believers of “true” Communism. The State will wither away and all will live in peace and harmony. The belief that if only the “right people”, “right person”, is/are in charge to set it up, Communism will be heaven on earth. Immanentize that eschaton, NOW. a38176c4589d207 is seeking a messiah who has come to earth to set up the perfect state. He believes a meld of religion of socialism with a bastardized and devolved Christianity which makes a hybrid belief. A version of Liberation Theology.