Earlier today, I Tweeted Glenn Beck, and a few minutes later I got this:
hannityhater — curious- does @glannbeck [sic] follow you?
I’d never heard of hannityhater. And I couldn’t tell from the nic if she was a winger who happened to dislike Hannity or what. I assumed she was a winger at first.
dicentra63 — I wish. I assume he gets a bajillion tweets so I don’t know if he even reads what I write.
hannityhater — I think he should follow you guys - Why wouldn’t he? isnt it sort of rude that he doesnt even follow any of his fans?
dicentra63 — He doesn’t have time to follow us. He does get the tweets we direct at him, though. Most celebs follow few people. Glenn answered @dahlhalla once, though, when she sent him a link. We were all very impressed and jealous.
hannityhater — he HATES me! He quoted me in his video ad/blog & then he blocked me so I know he reads his tweets! It’s easy enough to follow someone even if you dont have time to answer everyone. He should because you all seem very devoted
At this point I bopped over to her bio and found that she describes herself as “raging left-wing progressive who is no longer reasonable” and that she’s in NYC. So the conversation continued more or less as follows: (I’ve combined successive Tweets, done a little rearranging to compensate for leapfrogging threads, and done a little editing to clarify. )
dicentra63 — Did you instruct him to eat more donuts and hot death, but mostly hot death?
hannityhater — I’ve been pretty awful because I really despise him but I was surprised that he actually blocked me -
dicentra63 — Y the hate? Isn’t mere disagreement and lots of eye-rolls enough?
hannityhater — normally that would be sufficient but I really become undone when he uses that derisive deranged Kermit voice. he’s so disrespectful to our POTUS in a very nasty & childish way-Beyond disagreeing w/ policy. I just have a chemical hate 4 him
dicentra63 — He believes POTUS is hurting USA, but he doesn’t HATE BHO. I don’t either. I just want to stop his policies. Again, Y hate?
hannityhater — He has spent everyday since he started, Inaguration day, tearing him to pieces. Never giving him a chance. It infuriates me
dicentra63 — A chance to do what? We believe BHO wants to put out a fire with a bucket of gasoline. History shows his ways lead to tyranny
hannityhater — He called the President of the United States a RACIST, never apologized even tho it cost him over 80 sponsors-He hates our POTUS
dicentra63 — Racist came from BHO calling his gramma a “typical white woman.” The words “typical black woman” are racist, no?
hannityhater — anyway- I love the Pres Obama & think he deserves respect and a fair chance so I despise Beck. I dont even mind Hannity anymore because he seems tame compared to Beck who appears to want the complete destruction of the administration-It’s pretty awful
dicentra63 — Your attachment to BHO is emotional? Is it good to love a politician? Won’t you be blind to faults? Bad moves? We believe admin wants more power that it ought to have, and all power is abused. WH wants to shut down Beck. Is that OK?
hannityhater — the name calling is baseless-Beck is historically an alarmist who makes his living ginning up the base so to speak.
dicentra63 — Eye of the beholder. BHO is “racialist”: sees all events through racial lens. Years ago Glenn was just comedy. And his alarmism has been coming true.
hannityhater — marxist socialist communist radicals. This is insanity. He’s the fairly elected President of this country & loves it as much as any of the “patriots” who seem to hate him. Calling him a RACIST is indefensible-He should’ve apologized
dicentra63 — Nobody questions legitimacy of election. BHO has surrounded himself with radicals and marxists his entire life. BHO loves the country he imagines he’ll make it into. Patriotism is not issue. Theory of governance is. BHO wants BIG gubmint. And it’s not about hate for our side. It’s about simple opposition. It’s about sunlight and principles and liberty.
hannityhater — WH doesnt want to shut down Beck-
dicentra63 — Watch and wait. They’re already trying. Delegitimization is first step.
hannityhater — They would like him to calm the vitriol that Beck spews nightly to millions-Its bad for all. But as we’ve been saying, elections have consequences & more than 1/2 of the country elected him & are happy with him.
dicentra63 — There’s lots of voter remorse. BHO’s popularity has dropped faster than any other modern pres. U live in NYC; it’s a bubble.
hannityhater — you know calling the POTUS a racist on Nat’l morning TV is wrong.
dicentra63 — Don’t fixate on small things and miss big picture. Accusation of racism isn’t worst thing in world. Marxist, Maoist is worse.
hannityhater — It’s obviously not about hate for you & hopefully for most of you, But I think Beck hates Pres Obama profoundly
dicentra63 — No, he doesn’t hate BHO. He hates what BHO is up to and he’s desperate to stop him. That’s not hate; it’s love of country. UR under 30, yeah? U don’t remember USSR. I’ve been to Cornell. Marxism is the only religion there. They’re playing for keeps.
hannityhater — I could KISS you -I’m 51 yrs old.I remeber the USSR because I was there, I also joined the Communist party in the 70’s for a time
dicentra63 — U used young pix. U still like Big Gubmint statism? Y? Isn’t all power eventually abused?
hannityhater — his popularity is now at normal-between 51% & 56% depending on polls.He started at 78% popularity -unsustainable. He inherited
dicentra63 — “inherited” How long is this excuse valid? There R EZ ways to fix this mess; BHO doing opposite of what works.
hannityhater — a disaster and the economy is still a long way from stable-Unemployment is terrible & ppl are really scared but he deserve some time to make an attempt to fix it. 9 months isnt a fair chance-He will be there for 4 more yrs. Everyone should quiet down
dicentra63 — “deserves a chance”? Not if you already know that what he’s doing won’t help economy but crash it. Gas on fire, remember? Look, BHO is doing things that will not help econ. His aim is to crash econ thus to acquire more power. I’m agin it.
hannityhater — the pic isnt old-last winter : ) .You & I arent going to agree but I like you & thanks for discussing things nicely w/me
dicentra63 — I always discuss nicely. Hating one’s opposition is dehumanizing. That never ends well.
hannityhater — I’m no longer a Communist but I have no regrets.
dicentra63 — What did you learn about USSR? Did the GULAGs and purges bother you?
hannityhater — yes of course but so does the hunger & illness & homelessness that I see daily on the streets of this city. that life was very tough and gray & depressing-but the advantages were no homelessness, no hunger-a roof over every head
dicentra63 — Stalin induced more hunger and death than we can imagine. Life makes no sense; we can fix only so much. Poverty always with us
hannityhater — I think Beck has you guys totally brainwashed-Like Ayn Rand did to an entire generation-She was a master at it & so is he
dicentra63 — Which brainwashing method does he use? Isolation? Hunger? Sleep deprivation? Couldn’t I say that you were just as brainwashed by Marxism?
hannityhater — he has the power to get hundreds of thousands to rallies for no reason in particular-taxes, Obamacare, Indoctrination, so random
dicentra63 — Rallies were organized by grassroots. Looks pointless to you; means a lot to us.
hannityhater — sorry my friend-I know grassroots & that was no grassroots! -that was brought to you by Fox news. Im sure it meant alot to you
dicentra63 — I was closer 2 it than you; I watched it unfold on the ‘nets. Fox only showed rallies. Nobody paid partiers to show.
hannityhater — I’ve marched my entire life and it always feels great to get out and stand up for what you believe in but it was manufactured HOWEVER, I tip my hat to those of you who got out there & made yourselves heard.I do respect that alot
dicentra63 — I know it’s hard for the Left to understand what makes cons tick, but we are just as smart and genuine as U.
hannityhater — It was planned & sponsored & advertised & heavily promoted by & on Fox news.That’s undeniable
dicentra63 — Advertised & promoted, yes, but only after it was planned by others. Not Beck. Internet allows ppl to connect and organize. U need to show proof that ppl were paid 2 go and weren’t self-motivated. No matching tees, no unified message.
hannityhater — of course nobody paid you to go but you didnt get there because of a spontaneous passion-You were “inspired” by Fox-
dicentra63 — I’m telling you, the plans to go to DC came long before Fox began ads. LONG. Fox is just TV. Look, Fox is not our God. We have beliefs B4 Fox even existed. B4 Rush even got on the air. If you say Fox has manipulated us, that’s quite an insult. We’re “sheeple”? How many real “wingers” do you know?
hannityhater — when I get my computer running correctly I’ll send you all the proof you need-You can go to Media matters & see it yourself
dicentra63 — Media Matters hates me and my kind. I don’t trust them to tell the truth. I believe my eyes before MM. I don’t see why MM would know more than people on ground. Left never believes that our beliefs are legit. Please understand us
hannityhater — Glenn Beck TOLD you all to join his 912 deal and to show up on 912. He started the website & promoted it for 6 months. Im not saying it wasnt important to you all but it was far from grassroots.You were influenced by fox & Beck
dicentra63 — Yes, Glenn did the 9-12 project, but it wasn’t for protest at first. Glenn plugged in to protest after others organized.
hannityhater — MM has the video-straight forward. No words needed. Go to Medimatters.com and put 912 rally in the search. You will see what I mean
dicentra63 — You are also influenced when you protest. Goose, gander, etc. Also, I’m not in a 912 group. Don’t have cable. I’m still not sure what your problem is with the DC rally. Doesn’t Al Gore inspire rallies? Don’t lots of figures on left? Srsly. How many of your friends are conservatives? Are we even human to you? Worthy of friendship? Above contempt?
hannityhater — My husband is a reg Repub. and I live in a very big city with all kinds of ppl. Bill Buckly was a close family friend-
dicentra63 — What is grassroots, then? Wasn’t GOP. Wasn’t PhRMA or industry. Wasn’t a hidden entity. Again, what’s the prob? “Astroturf” is when you have a “rent-a-mob,” not when private citizens decide to rally. Lots of entities inspired it.
hannityhater — I have no contempt for conservs -I am very progressive but am happy there are ppl different than me-I think dissent is vital
dicentra63 — Glad you have diverse ideas around U. Many on left don’t.
hannityhater — I dont have a prob w/ it I But I do have a big prob w/Beck & it was his thing & thats how he controls so many ppl.
dicentra63 — Joke: Bill Buckley could never have used Twitter because half his lexicon consists of words longer than 140 letters.
hannityhater — lol! true. My 2nd cousin was Bill Safire also -So you see I’ve been surrounded by conserv all my life. Beck is radical& upsetting
dicentra63 — “Control” is a bit strong, indicates we can’t think for selves. Does BHO “control” you? Does Al Gore? Beck is passionate and I can see why he’d upset you. BHO is radical and he upsets me.
hannityhater — no, they inspire me-enormously. and if Beck does that for you enjoy it -its a wonderful feeling to be inspired
dicentra63 — Beck (and the rest of us) “aim to do mischief,” if you know your FIREFLY. Not hurt people, not throw brix, but stop proggs.
hannityhater — I think you would treat the POTUS with respect had Beck never come along
I wanted to respond that our contempt for Obama’s ideas predates anything Beck ever said, but Hewitt was over and it was time I did something productive.
dicentra63 — Anyway, it’s been nice Tweeting. Time for me to go do laundry. Catch you later!
hannityhater — thanks- I enjoyed it- well do it again sometime. Beck should follow you-Tell him I said so!









Comment by Mob on 10/31 @ 1:34 pm #
This is depressing. How can there ever be a meeting of the minds, when she can’t even believe that you are real? You can have an entire conversation that consists of nothing but her telling you how you don’t really believe what you say you believe. In her eyes, everything you believe or do was manufactured by someone else.
If she can’t even take your words at face value, how can you even agree to disagree? Every conversation you have will consist of her trying to wake you up from what she considers to be a brainwashing.
It is unfathomable to her, that you could ever possibly believe the things you do. It must be some kind of talking-point or brainwashing. She’s not engaging you on the issues, she’s just trying to get you to ’see the light’.
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/31 @ 1:39 pm #
Well done on the pleasantness. I hate Obama though. I hate the dingbat you were arguing with too. And Hannity. And Beck, though in his case it’s more of a “stay on your side of the room, you jabbering goober who I usually agree with” kind of semi-hate due to my intolerance of weird, tacky people. I’m a mean, hateful person I think, maybe.
Comment by BJTex on 10/31 @ 1:58 pm #
My hat’s off to you, dicentra, for your civil and reasonable approach. Now I’m starting to feel a little embarrassed at the tone of the screed I posted.
Gee, Abe, I think Hannity hater would love to welcome you to the progressive side.:-)
The shear historical ignorance of that statement makes me want to weep. Kill tens of millions of citizens if that is what is required to insure that there is no hunger or homelessness. Wow!
Comment by SDN on 10/31 @ 2:46 pm #
Mob, ultimately, you can’t. As Lincoln said, you can’t have a house divided, half slave (which is exactly what Leftism, communism, fascism are) and half free.
And history also teaches us that ONLY force or the credible threat of it deters slavemasters. And since the Leftcult doesn’t believe that we really believe what we do, they have no reason to believe we will employ force in defense of those beliefs until the bullets hit.
That’s why I’ve been predicting a second Civil War in this country since 2002. And O! is destroying enough of our institutions to guarantee we get it.
Utterly appropriate Captcha: bisected.
Comment by McGehee on 10/31 @ 3:48 pm #
I agree with dicentra: Infurated? Why?
I admit that sometimes I find myself getting angry about other people’s opinions, but I have to remind myself, it’s just an opinion. It’s only worth 2¢ even in today’s toilet-paper dollars.
Back in 1993 I had somebody get mad at me for “not giving Clinton a chance.” It was such an idiotic thing to say that when I pointed out that what I say about it makes no difference either way, I was forceful enough about it to actually get through to her.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 8:27 pm #
Now I’m starting to feel a little embarrassed at the tone of the screed I posted.
Why? Posting a screed is one thing; erupting in someone’s actual (virtual) face is another. I’ve found that when I don’t know whom I’m dealing with, it’s better to proceed with kindness. That way, people are more likely to say interesting things instead of just lobbing epithets.
Sometimes you can help them see that we cons are actually human. I figure it’s worth a shot.
Comment by B Moe on 11/1 @ 11:30 am #
This is really just more of that Valerie Jarrett “truth to power” idiocy. Obama is the President of the United States, what more of a chance does he need?
What we need is for these bastards to give us a chance. Us as in us individuals.
Comment by geoffb on 11/1 @ 1:11 pm #
I have a rare moment of agreement with a Progressive.
Comment by geoffb on 11/1 @ 1:20 pm #
That was me before around 1976/77 and being exposed to writings such as Solzhenitsyn, Suvorov, Victor Herman and Fred Dohrs. I know my excuse, hannityhater’s I can’t conceive of these many years after the truth came out.
Comment by sdferr on 11/1 @ 3:26 pm #
“…hannityhater’s [excuse]…”
Could it be simply any lack of direct cost to her for holding and continuing to hold those opinions, where on the contrary she is instead congratulated for them?
Comment by dicentra on 11/2 @ 1:48 am #
Could it be simply any lack of direct cost to her for holding and continuing to hold those opinions, where on the contrary she is instead congratulated for them?
DingDingDingDingDingDing!
Ayup.
Speaking of Victor Herman, I’ve been reading this brilliant tome lately, and Victor’s story is followed, among many others.
Someone should write a screenplay and get it produced.
Comment by McGehee on 11/2 @ 4:52 am #
:facepalm:
Comment by McGehee on 11/2 @ 4:56 am #
Oh, and somebody tried to respond to this post and missed by a couple of years.
Comment by dicentra on 11/2 @ 5:12 pm #
#13
1. How in Sam Hill did that dude end up in 2007?
2. How in Sam Hill did he think that post was about Glenn Beck?
3. How in Sam Hill did the Pub get confused with a progressive agenda?
Time, it would appear, to avoid Sam Hill.
Comment by McGehee on 11/2 @ 8:27 pm #
He was programming the DeLorean and transposed a couple of digits somewhere?
Comment by cranky-d on 11/2 @ 9:34 pm #
Ted3 got his anger on, but he did it where he thought no one would read it.
Dork.
Comment by McGehee on 11/2 @ 9:48 pm #
He got caught because sometimes I click on unfamiliar post titles that show up in the recent-comments feed. It’s like archeology without the shovels.
Comment by steep on 11/5 @ 1:12 am #
hannityhater — “yes of course but so does the hunger & illness & homelessness that I see daily on the streets of this city. that life was very tough and gray & depressing-but the advantages were no homelessness, no hunger-a roof over every head”
Maybe there would have been a few homeless people in the USSR, if they had been allowed to live.
… hunger & illness & homeless = Gulag?
Maybe we’re comparing oranges and apple cores.