June 12, 2014

Guns never solve anything … [Darleen Click]

… except when used by a law-abiding citizen to save the life of his daughter.

St. Louis police say a 17 year old girl was outside of her home getting something from a car when two armed men confronted her and demanded that she return to her home.

The girl`s father saw the suspects walking his daughter toward the home. That`s when police say the teen`s father, a 34 year old man, got his gun and fired several shots at the suspects, hitting both of them. The girl`s mother, also 34, got another gun and fired a round as well, not hitting either suspect.

The first suspect was pronounced dead at the scene. The second suspect ran away, got into the first suspect`s car and contacted his brother to take him to the hospital.

Police identify the suspect who was killed as 31 year old Terrell Johnson from north St. Louis. The second suspect- a 33 year old man- is hospitalized in critical but stable condition with gunshot wounds to his chest and both thighs. Police say he will face charges.

No reasonable person can argue that this family, including a five-year-old son who was in the house, would not have wound up a statistic — “tragic story of slain family” — if it weren’t for the fact of firearms in the house.

Then again, the gun-grabbers are the definition of unreasonable.

Posted by Darleen @ 2:07pm
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  1. “An attempted home invasion turned into a murder investigation Tuesday morning.”

    What’s the deal, the reporter doesn’t know how to spell “homicide”?

  2. Well of course it is murder because his gun was ready to use.

    Any law abiding person would have had to remove the firearm from a state approve gun vault, remove the trigger lock, retrieve the empty magazine from its separate secured location, retrieve the ammunition from its secured location, load magazine, insert into firearm (do not load a round into the chamber or if you do please remember to engage the safety), and then confront the intruders who are now holding your family at gunpoint.

  3. Treacherously sneaky active home-invasion victims lured their murder object to his death by dangling their property before his eyes. It’s just an example of how under-handed they are, those home-invasion victims.

  4. - Just remember the rule that justice delayed is justice denied and give ‘em justice swiftly and accurately. You can always hold a questions and answers session after the assholes are dispatched.

    – On another front, looks like Harrison is going to war with garage doors now.

  5. - Bumblefucks superlative international policies in action.

    – Is there any part of the world he can’t fuck up, and will there be any place left that isn’t in chaos by the time he leaves office?

  6. Mother needs to spend some more time at the range. Two wild shots? Not good, Mom.

  7. leigh

    I’m sure mom is beating herself up pretty good. It may have little to do with how she does on a range but with her emotional reaction in the situation — daughter with gun to head and you have to draw a bead on another human being and shoot-to-kill.

    Probably this is the very first time she ever had to shoot at another human being (no matter how criminal).

    At least she took the shots and didn’t freeze.

  8. I’m just being catty, Darleen. I can’t imagine how terrified she must have felt and it’s a good thing Dad knows his stuff. I’d probably still be shaking and never letting the daughter out of the house again.

  9. leigh

    may I offer you a saucer of cream? ;-)

  10. I’m guessing it’s a felony murder investigation, the live miscreant being the subject of said investigation, seeing as a homocide occured in the course of a felony home invasion, the victim of said homocide being the dead miscreant.

    Friends don’t let friends commit felonies.

  11. The second suspect ran away, got into the first suspect`s car and contacted his brother to take him to the hospital.

    I’d have to wonder whether the brother was arrested for aiding and abetting after the fact, or if he called the cops on the way to rescue his brother.

    I gotta say, if MY brother called me to say, “Hey, bro, I was trying to rob this guy’s home, and we had grabbed his daughter when he shot us, and killed my friend, so I need you to come get me and take me to the hospital!”, I’d be like, “Sorry, who are you again? I don’t have any brother…” }CLIK{

  12. From the lead of BBH’s link:
    “After briefing, members of Congress express shock at success of insurgents”

    Of course when you read the article you find out only dumbocrats were surprised by the developments.

  13. The State Department said Thursday that the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad is operating as usual.

    Oh yes, do tell us another State Department! For certainly our sleepless FSO’s in Baghdad usually run about like poulets sans têtes for days on end, sweating blood in fear of their very lives. Ha-ha, sooooooo funny.

  14. The decay of civilization continues:

    Last Friday evening, I was shopping for food at the packed Trader Joe’s on Sixth Avenue in New York. I like shopping there. The prices are pretty good, the employees friendly, the store inviting.

    As I was standing in line, I heard the jaunty marimba of the Rolling Stones’ 1966 smash hit, “Under My Thumb.” We’ve all heard the song 1,000 times — it’s a very catchy tune, from a talented, superstar band. But it also features lyrics that are not exactly friendly toward women. As I listened, I thought about how the song plays in the wake of Elliot Rodger’s killing spree, fueled, as the killer explained in a lengthy manifesto, by his rage against women and desire to control them.

    We’ve been wringing our hands, asking how young men can become so hostile and eager to dominate to women. Well, isn’t it because our culture feeds them the message at every turn, even in the most mundane settings? What does it mean that degradation of half the population is considered appropriate background noise to everyday life?

  15. What a minute. Someone can actually understand Mick Jagger?

  16. What a whiny bitch.

    Was that enough hate for everyone?

  17. With a title like Under my thumb, he can hardly be expected to croon about the tick he picked off his forearm, is he?

  18. Wait until she actually listens carefully to “Brown Sugar.” She’ll have a panic attack.

  19. oh good lord

    I note how the hand wringer had to skip by the first two lines of the song:

    Under my thumb’s the girl who once had me down
    Under my thumb’s the girl who once pushed me around

    Stones are old white men, so safe target

    The Lynnster (who finds free markets ‘scary’ and ‘extreme’)- should get back to us when she takes on rap

  20. NWA would be a good place to start. They’re old stuff, for starters.

    Then, we can ask her “What’s the difference between a ‘bitch’ and a ‘ho’?”

  21. *Their*

    I’m there, their, they’re impaired lately.

  22. “What does it mean that degradation of half the population is considered appropriate background noise to everyday life?”

    You mean like considering all males to be probably by default be viewed as sex predators and violent? Holding random men and culture responsible for a murder spree because like the perpetrator they have penises? You mean like that?

  23. Elliot Rodger manifesto in five words: “I can’t get no satisfaction.”

  24. More thumbs pressing down.

    The University of Missouri recently covered up a large sports advertisement that paid homage to its fight song after a progressive female Democrat politician complained it was sexist and condoned a culture of violence against women.

    Earlier this month, the school displayed a large trailer with the message “Every True Son Goes to Mizzou” plastered on its side, along with its tiger mascot and the message: “For Tickets Call 1-800-Cat-Paws.”

    Some on the Columbia campus didn’t think twice about it, others were offended.

    But the loudest protestation came from Missouri State Rep. Stacey Newman (D-St. Louis County), a feminist politician who founded Progress Women to highlight the “war on women.”

  25. a feminist politician who founded Progress Women to highlight the “war on women.”

    Meanwhile, the new mother sentenced to death is still on Sudan’s version of death row, sentenced to first receive 100 lashes, then to be hung by the neck until dead. Her crime? Marrying a non-Muslim.

    Two reasons the #waronwymmyn crowd isn’t interested: she’s proudly Christian and it’s the Muslims who plan on killing her.

  26. #enjoybarackychaos

  27. The “war on women” continues while boys are punished for acting like boys and taught to be more like girls and more and more men are leery of marriage because a spoiled brat wife only needs to accuse her husband of wrongdoing and he’s railroaded into a life of misery.

  28. I may have anger issues.

  29. These days, if you’re not angry, you’re either not paying attention, or you’re a part of the crowd that the rest of us are angry with.

  30. I generally support gun rights wholeheartedly even though I don’t care for guns personally — too big a spaz and I know that about myself, same deal with chainsaws — and then I saw this scrawny redneck sort explaining his mishap to the police. Well within his rights. But total Barney Fife all the way, smacking his pockets for his bullet, finding it in the pocket already checked three times, shaking the single bullet into the chamber, the instant the gun is loaded POW wild shot into the floor. A complete nervous wreck under pressure, and said so to the cop. And I realized, yeah, no, guns are not for everyone. The police let him go. That is what happened to the mother. I’m certain.

    My roommate shot a rat getting at my dog’s food. Back and forth the rat went. I thought it was a squirrel and then … that horrible tail that looks like a snake. Just think of that. The difference between being hand-fed in the park is a matter of a fluffy tail. He produced his rifle from the basement. I didn’t even know it was there. Pew, one well-aimed shot from inside the house. And the smell of gunpowder is so sweet. Shot right through the rat and left a hole in the hard plastic dish. The rat flipped wildly high in the air spraying blood, and took off back into its hole. Where presumably it died a long painful lingering death.

    This concludes my rat story and illegal firing of a gun within city limits. Don’t tell anybody, okay?

  31. I agree that if you are not going to go to the range and get some firearms training with the gun you plan to use, you might be better off without one.

    However, if you are not a man, or are no longer young and strong, you might find that you need a gun some day.

  32. - Try using “Them” more Leigh. That way there’s no their they’re. – :)

  33. So to gist, I just heard our magnificent ClownDisaster say regarding the crisis in Iraq that guns never solve anything, and then proceed to give Nouri Al-Maliki advice to seek a political compromise which the ClownDisaster in his physical incarnation as IWonPenPhone has never, can never, and will never do in his own domestic political relations.

    Pay attention Nouri: “Do as HE say, not as HE do.”

    And then go find yourself a quiet corner in which to die. Now, off with you!

  34. A couple of pieces found linked at Ace about Iraq and IWonPenPhone’s abandonment of assistance..

  35. Excellent tip, BBH! Thanks! ; )

  36. If HE wants to let Khalid Sheik Muhammed go free — but for reasons of necessity beyond HIS control, cannot — what is the next best thing?

    Done and done.

  37. It’s not a disaster, it’s the planned for, desired, outcome.

  38. It is a disaster, for so many will die unnecessarily. To plan, certainly. HIS plan however, cannot determine my view of the world.

  39. Secretary of State John Kerry says that he “would anticipate timely decisions from the president” on what to do in Iraq.

    “This needs to be a wake-up call for all of Iraq’s political leaders,” the Washington Post quotes Kerry as saying.

    “I am confident that the United States will move rapidly and effectively.” But the last time Secretary of State Kerry was this confident about American action, President Obama changed his mind and decided not to intervene militarily in Syria. He says this time is different.

    BARACK OBAMA: Now Iraq needs additional support to break the momentum of extremist groups and bolster the capabilities of Iraqi security forces.

    We will not be sending U.S. troops back into combat in Iraq, but I have asked my national security team to prepare a range of other options that could help support Iraq security forces and I’ll be reviewing those options in the days ahead.

    Days will become weeks become months and then moot.

  40. From 10/21/2012 NYT.

    In August, after debates between the Pentagon, the State Department and the White House, the Americans settled on the 3,000 to 5,000 number, which was reported in August. According to two people briefed on the matter, one inside the administration and one outside, the arguments of two White House officials, Thomas E. Donilon, the national security adviser, and his deputy, Denis McDonough, prevailed over those of the military.

    Intelligence assessments that Iraq was not at great risk of slipping into chaos in the absence of American forces were a factor in the decision, an American official said.

    This month, American officials pressed the Iraqi leadership to meet again at President Talabani’s compound to discuss the issue. This time the Americans asked them to take a stand on the question of immunity for troops, hoping to remove what had always been the most difficult hurdle. But they misread Iraqi politics and the Iraqi public. Still burdened by the traumas of this and previous wars, and having watched the revolutions sweeping their region, the Iraqis were unwilling to accept anything that infringed on their sovereignty.

    Acutely aware of that sentiment, the Iraqi leadership quickly said publicly that they would not support legal protections for any American troops. Some American officials have privately said that pushing for that meeting — in essence forcing the Iraqis to take a public stand on such a controversial matter before working out the politics of presenting it to their constituents and to Parliament — was a severe tactical mistake that ended any possibility of keeping American troops here past December.

  41. We should perhaps marvel upon the disciplined silence of the American hostages serving in the vast embassy in Baghdad, who though their lives now hang in the balance — and with the example of Christopher Stevens prominent to their gaze — can now with the personal fortitude of ancient samurai toward their master, keep a quiet faith as they carry out HIS order.

    Not a peep. Such bravery.

  42. Might as well add Wretchard to the mix:

    Whether in fulfillment of some childhood psycho-drama, in the service of some bizarre obsession or in pursuit of an imbecilic strategy, Obama has basically made every bad move it is possible to make. For a long time the press covered up this perverted process out of admiration for the creases in his trousers; and so it appeared Obama was going gradually bust. Now we’re in the “all of a sudden” part of the curve. The check’s come back from the bank, bounced.

    The accumulated weight of Obama’s errors are now too great to escape. There is no soft landing. It’s crunch time. America waits on its ill-defended beaches behind Obama’s Cash-for-Clunkers, Solar Panel, Carbon Trading Certificates and Obamacare sandbags, though it still has no Keystone XL pipeline.

    The nation has been issued with these little plastic steering wheels with which it is expected to dodge the coming crisis. One might look for what Obama called “unproven missile defense systems” and unnecessary “future combat systems”. One might pine wistfully for its missing ships and non-transgendered soldiers. But look in vain. They were sent away because we were assured they would never be needed by people much smarter than ourselves.

    Wretchard left out one possibility: Obama is from Bizzaro-world. Everything with him is upside-down and inside out. Like some goddamned bolshevik.

  43. Three 16 yr old yeshiva students, one, apparently an American, have gone missing last evening in the West Bank while hiking and are now presumed kidnapped by a peaceful Salafist group seeking retribution for the killings of three of their own operatives some months ago. A search is ongoing.

  44. More cheery thoughts:

    President Obama grew up in a generation which cheered “defeats” as comically grainy events on black and white film which took place in far away places. Perhaps it had for them a quality of unreality. Some prank on The Man, a something happening to someone else. Let’s see how they like it in HD.

    Yet the loss in Iraq will be cheap at the price. It illustrates the ease with which the Obama administration can be surprised and reveals the utter hollowness of the men in the expensive suits. One day, perhaps soon, America may be challenged by an enemy which can truly hurt it — the Big One — and on that day Barack Hussein Obama is unlikely to fare any better than he has so far.

    It’s not this present catastrophe that should worry everyone, though it is serious enough. It’s the what happens when Big One comes with the same in crew in charge that should give one pause.

  45. I reject the incompetence argument, by the way. Obama’s proven highly competent at fundamental transformation.

    This is what hope and change looks like to a thrid-world romanticizing, middle-class America despising faculty lounge marxist radical wannabe.

  46. The Brain Trust exists to demonstrate the cost of putting trust in Brains. “Book smart” Is an oxymoron — even an ox knows that.

  47. Drudge headlines from WND that 200 American contractors are surrounded at Balad and fighting to maintain their lives. No word on whether an AC130 is en route from Qatar to provide a bit of relief, nor of any other action possible while decisions can wait ’til next Monday.

  48. Obama says we can solve Iraq’s problems for them.

    I bet Iran says they’d be happy to try.

  49. I have asked my national security team to prepare a range of other options…

    It’s a broad range, extending from “do nothing” to “give a speech” to “whine at the UN.” Those national security wizards never lack for good options.

    It’s not this present catastrophe that should worry everyone, though it is serious enough. It’s the what happens when Big One comes with the same in crew in charge that should give one pause.

    This pretty much nails my feelings on the subject. And just as we’re told that the current death spiral in Iraq is due to our disastrous policies and actions in Syria, and Egypt, and Iran, and Crimea, and the East China Sea, we can all rest assured that the next horrible outcome will be due to our disastrous policies in Iraq.

    Have a great weekend, everyone!

  50. . . . while all about it
    Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

  51. From the Drudge link.

    WND has learned from sources that the jihadists have closed down escape routes, and the U.S. Air Force is in a stand-down position. U.S. forces are not assisting even with air cover so a private extradition flight could land for a rescue, the sources said.

    Privately scheduled exit flights have fallen through, sources said, as several private pilots originally scheduled to make the flights have quit.

    The sources contend the U.S. military could provide the necessary air cover to protect C-130s or other air transport craft sufficient to make the evacuation, but so far officials have refused to get involved.

    Balad-ghazi.

  52. No shit, geoffb.

    So I guess the plan is to swap our prisoners of war in Gitmo for their prisoners of war in the U.S. Embassy.

    D.C. better start installing more street lights.

  53. With the survival of American elms lining the d.c. streets, there are plenty of high, strong accessible points for which to pendulate what needs pendulating.

  54. from which

  55. So. When does indecision constitute an inability to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, as per Sec. 4 of the XXV amendment?

    Yeah. I know, silly hobbit.

  56. Tuesday, May 29, 1787: Virginia Delegate Edmund Randolph introduces the “Virginia Plan” to the Convention. His recitation includes that fell word, “impeachment”. How peculiar.

  57. From Scott Johnson at Power line: *** The IRS has informed the House Ways and Means Committee that it has lost Lois Lerner email messages from January 2009–April 2011. Harkening back to the allegedly accidental erasure of 18 1/2 minutes of critical Oval Office recordings that contributed to Richard Nixon’s resignation from office, the IRS attributes the loss of Lerner email to a computer crash.

    Some email survives: the agency retains Lerner email to and from other IRS employees during this period. The IRS claims it cannot produce email written only to or from Lerner and outside agencies or groups, such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or offices of Democrat congressmen. Funny how that works. ***

  58. Drudge headlines from WND that 200 American contractors are surrounded at Balad and fighting to maintain their lives.

    Markos Moulitsas was unavailable for comment.

  59. You don’t “lose” email. Someone deletes it.

  60. The IRS has informed the House Ways and Means Committee that it has lost Lois Lerner email messages from January 2009–April 2011.

    First thought: That’s an awfully specific “loss”. I wonder if they have any of the e-mails she sent out or received that were not requested by the Congressional subpoena or fall outside the time frame specified? Were any other e-mails sent or received by any other people during that time frame also “lost” or just hers?

    Second thought: Isn’t it wonderful that the NSA would have a copy of it stashed away? :D

  61. Maybe Ed Snowden has the emails.

  62. Fucking Ubaldo.

  63. not to worry the nsa has the emails in utah

  64. Iranian troops are in southern Iraq. Nice knowing you folks. I guess the breakdown in the nuclear world war schedule in 1989 was just a 25 year thing. Back on track!

  65. let allan sort them out

  66. Don’t pull the troops out of Iraq. Pull them out of Diego Garcia and move them to Iraq. Pull the troops out of Italy and move them to Israel. Pull the troops from Germany and shift them to Poland.

    Quit supplying troops for the wars we won half a century ago and start planning for the wars we will be fighting in the next decade. Force NATO to start defending themselves and see whether the US’ military spending (as % of GDP) is really all that outrageous once those countries have to start standing to…

  67. Obama will not pull personnel out of the embassy in Baghdad, for fear of “sending the wrong message”. When the embassy is seized by ISIS (see also Teheran, circa November 4, 1979), who wants to bet that Obama will (happily) trade the remaining detainees in Gitmo for their return? (And, OF COURSE, once we no longer have those detainees, we don’t need that base anyway, and we can close it down and pull out of Cuba entirely.)

    Simple message passed along through backchannels: “Wait until the next President is inaugurated before detonating that nuke in New York City. That way, we can blame it on the new Republican President.”

  68. A U.S. contractor in Iraq told WND the Iraqi Air Force has begun evacuations from Balad Air Force Base, where 200 American contractors were trapped by the al-Qaida-inspired jihadists who have seized control of two cities and are now threatening Baghdad.

    A contractor with Sallyport Global, who asked not to be named, told WND through a Skype instant message that he was transported from Balad to Baghdad and was communicating from a C-130 preparing to take off to Dubai.

    He said 300 in total have been evacuated from Balad, about 60 miles north of Baghdad, and another 100 are still awaiting airlift. He said the Iraqi Air Force is trying to evacuate everyone by midnight local time.

    Good.

  69. stupid/evil is a world wide movement

  70. ISIS pulls no punches, minces no words, unlike

  71. isis using language notes. bagdad should be “isnot”

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  73. “Anyone who clings to the historically untrue and thoroughly immoral doctrine that violence never settles anything I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history that has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms.”
    — Robert Heinlein

  74. more .223/5.56 ammo ordered for the barackarmageddon.

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