January 9, 2014

Hellomynameisgoodbye

By popular demand, our resident OFA troll “hellomynameissteve” has been invited to leave. And by “invited,” I of course mean unceremoniously removed under his current phony email address.

Now, let’s not kid ourselves: he’ll be back under a different fake name and temporary email address, if only briefly, in order to tell us all how we fear his speech and wish to squelch dissent. That his ideas — which are regurgitated talking points that, because they are set up as impenetrable to reason and impervious to correction, can be ever repeated as if they were born anew each time he uttered them — were simply too advanced and intimidating for we sad and sordid lot of rancorous racists to engage effectively, and thus we removed him in order to shield ourselves from the heavenly illumination of the reality based community’s dazzling Truths.

This is, after all, the same pattern we’ve seen for the past 12 years here. It’s a final flourish of self-proclaimed victory and intellectual onanism, one that often leaves a spot on the rug.

When this happens, join me in this canned (but appropriate) response: “there are no bad students, hellomynameisshill, only bad teachers. So. If we couldn’t learn from you despite your repeated iterations of the same iron-clad arguments, then you must be the suck.

“And as this isn’t yet a union operation that protects the jobs of ineffective, mediocre intellects, you’ve been let go.

“Though if you need references, send along a note and I’ll see what I can do for you.”

Posted by Jeff G. @ 9:45am
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Comments (119)

  1. What are we going to do without an environmental sociologist to help guide the Protein Wisdom family?

  2. Whisky Tango Foxtrot–besides regurgitating leftist bilge–does an environmental sociologist do, anyway?

  3. I just wish I’d known that was his major/field of study before just recently. I skim, so perhaps it’s come up, but I think it’s HILARIOUS.

  4. I am amused by his speech. He’s almost sentient, which is kind of cute.

  5. Whisky Tango Foxtrot–besides regurgitating leftist bilge–does an environmental sociologist do, anyway?

    Write grant proposals. Duh!

  6. I thought it was Dalekhunter that was the environmental sociologist.

  7. Oh, did I mix them up?

    That would be weird, but I thought it was Steve.

    If it’s Dalek, then we still have an environmental sociologist to guide us.

    I can stop worrying.

  8. It breaks my heart to know that I am so pig-ignrnt that I may never be able to fully appreciate the brilliance of the big-hearted, selfless environmental sociologists who try so hard to show me the Truth and the Way.

    In the words of Peter Venkman, “I’m gonna miss him.”

  9. Slartibartfast says January 9, 2014 at 10:15 am

    I thought it was Dalekhunter that was the environmental sociologist.

    You’re right.

    All I ever saw from Legion, or at least one of his personalities was some piffle about “building a neural network to streamline a supply chain” or some such. I decided at that point that neural networks must be a branch of programming that doesn’t require any acquaintance or familiarity with logic, or somebody was lying. Again.

  10. I expect to hear the whinging about “Free Speech” without even a hint of irony after the Duck Dynasty kerfuffle.

  11. My report:

    In Finland they spell it “malaaria.”

  12. *comma*

  13. Rats. I was just getting into nature/nurture with him.

  14. Wouldn’t it be huono ilma? My Finnish cow-orker says that means “bad air.”

  15. Everyone brings happiness, some by arriving, some by leaving.

    You know what? I’m happy.

  16. My apologies to Dale for associating environmental sociology with stevie. Goodness knows that our doughty environmental sociologists have a tough enough time as it is.

  17. Squid, now there still exists hope that we can figure out what Environmental sociologists do.

  18. Rats. I was just getting into nature/nurture with him.

    Perhaps, but if the subject is inherently interesting, you’ll always fare better with honest interlocutors.

  19. Steve hasn’t demonstrated any skills that I could put a name to, other than relentlessly parroting the last set of talking points that had any traction.

  20. I prefer to use the Billy Madison response:

    “hellomynameissteve, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

  21. RI Red says January 9, 2014 at 10:39 am
    Rats. I was just getting into nature/nurture with him.
    - See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52412#comments

    He was becoming boring.
    Tedious too.
    And no too bright.

  22. After Manhattan, I think Dale is going to find any one of those other places pretty boring.
    Unless “environmental sociology” is code for something.

  23. Oh, the bannings, the bannings! It’s a trollocaust!

  24. yoko huono ilma = really, really bad air

  25. Unless “environmental sociology” is code for something.

    Five shekels says it has something to do with bronies.

  26. It’s a trollocaust!

    Which is what we should expect from locaust trolls.

    You get what you pay for.

  27. You get what you pay for.

    I thought trolls were free, like healthcare and vacations at Martha’s Vineyard.

  28. Who?

    Oh, another troll. Not a very good one, it seems.

  29. Being trolled is a right, not a privilege!!!1!!!!

  30. - Its sort of a letdown. I was hoping for a public lynching.

  31. He provided that out of pocket, by continuing to come back.

  32. I was just starting to like [baiting] him. Oh well. On to our resident Dr. Who troll, dalekhunter.

    Hey G.O., mare misses you and was asking about you.

  33. Its just as well. I couldnt read his comments anyway…well I could at first but I couldnt grasp the nuance but then later I just skimmed the words and then later my eyes wouldnt even do that especially with my typical dirty martini beside the key board. I mean why waste the gin?
    BTW of a public service announcement… if anyone else appreciates good olives and their juice, you owe it to yourself to try the Sole Bonta brand pitted Castelvetranos available at most Costcos at least here in the SE.

  34. In Finland they spell it “malaaria.”

    Well played, well played.

    yoko huono ilma = really, really bad air

    That is the proper form, the vulgate, if you will, is faart.

  35. GEORGE!!!!! I thought perhaps you’d been buried underneath one of those new Palm trees …

  36. yoko huono ilma

    Excellent play on Yoko Ono, fish. Well done!

  37. In reference to the last climate thread of the newly departed, and for future reference, a timely tidbit that NASA apparently tried to hide – warming from 1885 t0 a peak in 1940 then turning into a decline to baseline about the time the hype about global cooling started.

    Oddly enough, Miami was not inundated in 1940.

  38. I had a book in the 70s that foretold a frozen world that was going to KILL US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!! in a dozen years or so. “Future Shock” was at least right on the money about home computers and various technologies. That other book, not so much. I can’t even remember the name of it but it was all the rage.

    It seems every generation gets its share of apocalyptic books: famine, overpopulation, global cooling, global warming, pandemics, satanic ritual abuse, recovered memories, et alia. Write a readable doomsday book and the talk circuit is your oyster.

  39. Is not being trolled a taxable event?

  40. I think he owes us damages for stinking up the clubhouse for weeks. At the holidays, too.

  41. He still owes me an apology for the base calumny he tried to pass off, e.g. that Hitler and Stalin were textbook classical liberals.

    That one really was a bridge too far.

  42. Sdferr, I found it interesting to try to cut through Steve’s BS. Once in a while his guard came down and I tried for honest interlocution. Of course, I did call him a dick once.
    Jeff, I hope his check cleared after all the bandwidth he spent.

  43. THe downside, no more timeless classics such as: My team is about democracy and egalitarianism. My team believes that we (the people) make the rules for us (the people).

    Meanwhile, in Europe, his team, The Proggs, ban cinnamon rolls. Because, for the people.

  44. Danes are always bitching about cinnamon. They claim it tastes like medicine.

    Answer: don’t eat it.

  45. i don’t understand why

  46. He never answered my questions ( not that he coukd ) and now I’m the dumbest person here again. Can we get a new troll?

  47. would you like some education about why?

  48. Blitz, misognyfeets often understudies as resident troll.

  49. i can also help with what, when, and where.

  50. but not how not til march.

  51. Red, happy is in rehab for his wimmin-hatin’ ways.

    I have faith in him and will send him a fruit basket.

  52. Well, he’ll be gone for a little while, anyway. It will be one of life’s little blessings.

  53. “building a neural network” = uploading a database to a distributed cloud

    You wouldn’t understand.

  54. I was just getting into nature/nurture with him.

    Perhaps, but if the subject is inherently interesting, you’ll always fare better with honest interlocutors.

    Not if your specialty is abnormal psychology.

  55. >uploading a database to a distributed cloud<

    does anyone ever try to seed the database to make the cloud rain? and if it does rain does it disperse rather than landing mainly on the plain?

  56. they could damage the liver.

    On THIS side of the pond, cinnamon is sold in horse-capsules to help regulate blood sugar.

    Europeans use the liver as a catch-all for what ails them, just as we use stress.

  57. does it disperse rather than landing mainly on the plain?

    It lands in MAINE, you nimrod.

  58. Red, yeah I was thinking that same thing, but I like feets. Hey!! Have I ever told you my recipe for turtle soup?

  59. Now now Di, don;t you go off on my adopted home. It snaows there a lot, but rain? we still hunt fish and generally have a great time.

  60. i stand corrected

  61. update the baracky through stimulus funds did this:

    Welcome to CHAMPAIGN

  62. I just hated steve’s arguments based on the cheaply rattled “everybody knows” stuff that is easily knocked over.

    I had an argument with a sci-fi nerd once about people from other planets. He kept yakking about how people from a heavier panet would be stronger and people from a lighter world weaker than us. He basically wanted stumpy dwarves from > 1 G worlds and lithe skinny elves from <1 G worlds. And he was talking about native developed life not people colonizing such worlds.

    He would not hear otherwise. SCIENCE!(TM)

    But he have gorillas who are MUCH larger and stronger than we are and chimps who are smaller but much stronger, and gibbons who are a lot weaker than us.

    We ALL come from a 1 G world. Our 1 G world gave creatures from our "root" multiple body plans.

    So the SCIENCE!(TM) is already starting off on it's back knocked out by mere science.

    Sure you could have Dawrfs from Heavius and Skinny Dancers from Lightius. But that is not preordained.

    steve was one of those people who couldn't get past the fact that his theories were already not surviving practical observation.

  63. I hate buzzwords.

    I guess I should be glad he wasn’t into quantum computing…

    For me if a “neural network” is invoked there needs to be something more than a database and some distributed computing involved. That describes most of what’s going on online right now.

  64. >he wasn’t into quantum computing<

    then the rain could both be in maine and champaign

  65. Why does a gorilla need to be so strong, anyway?

    All they eat is fruit.

    Maybe its so they can defend themselves in the event of an attacker wielding fresh fruit!

    Good thing the Earth evolved a Monty Python to explain the niche…

  66. neural networks are “layered” computing networks or clusters that optimize algorythms to eventually get really good at something. They appear to learn a task though practice.

    That’s my layman’s understanding of it. What little I know I learned from a paper on teaching a machine to recognize human expressions by looking at pictures of a face with dots on its key features. They also can be used to figure out how to best move with various numbers of legs or how to grasp things with a manipulator.

    But tha’s probably not a good IT overview of what it is.

  67. WHAT!

    So no steveplanation of the global warming causing global cooling phenomena?

  68. It lands in MAINE, you nimrod.

    Plainly.

  69. Call it kulak-a-genicglobalclimatebadthinghate.

  70. Steve gone. Chris Christie all but done for.
    I might smile this week after all.

  71. Leigh wrote:

    Red, happy is in rehab for his wimmin-hatin’ ways.

    I have faith in him and will send him a fruit basket.

    You [and the recently departed, but not lamented, hellomynameisdingbat] bring to mind the following exchange:

    DINO: How do you make a fruit cordial?

    SINATRA: Hmmm…I don’t know. How do you make a fruit cordial?

    DINO: Be nice to him.

  72. You can only do so many sequels before a franchise gets completely worn out.

    I just hope that wasn’t really George Lucas. Or maybe that it was. Either way, it smells minty fresh around here.

  73. Bob, I love that joke. Probably because it pisses off the Rainbow Reich.

  74. Of course, I did call him a dick once.

    I was worried that you would call him a dickhead. There’s only room for one around these parts.

  75. Now, let’s not kid ourselves: he’ll be back under a different fake name and temporary email address, if only briefly, in order to tell us all how we fear his speech and wish to squelch dissent.

    Except none of us would stop him from creating his own blog so he can express his speech and dissent to his hearts content.

    Of course, he doesn’t come here for “speech” or “dissent” purposes.

  76. neural networks are “layered” computing networks or clusters that optimize algorythms to eventually get really good at something. They appear to learn a task though practice.

    Well, don’t panic if it says: “Query: Does this unit have a soul?”

    OTOH, neural networks should probably not be connected to weapons, especially those with nuclear warheads…

  77. purge cont.

    >Two officers at nuclear missile site targeted in drug investigation
    Two Air Force officers who oversee nuclear missiles at a Montana base are suspected of illegal drug possession, another blow to a service suffering morale problems.<

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nuclear-missiles-20140110,0,6205227.story#ixzz2pxx0debS

  78. “Query: Does this unit have a soul?”

    “Reply: Let’s hear you sing ‘Ain’t Too Proud to Beg’ and I’ll let you know.”

  79. algorythms

    Those are when Al Gore does percussion, right?

    Oh, you meant algorithms. I guess we algorithmists tend to be sticklers for correct spelling.

  80. Algorythms could be a way to plot slasher flicks.

  81. I hate buzzwords.

    Me too. It’s how I got As in college. Me. Dumbass me. Even dumbass me knew to be sure to regurgitate the buzzwords and do it the professor’s satisfaction. It’s how he know whether or not this 1/60 of his class, me, learned his language in that short period allotted, so prove it. Taaaadaaaa, I proved I learned, heh, heh, heh, heh, heh. And in its way it does. So now when one hears buzzwords, shibboleths, that whole experience of surface training is relived.

  82. I hate buzzwords.

    Buzzwords and corrupted words. Two of my favorites, robust & methodology, in particular methodology instead of method – I know, I know, more syllables=”I’m Smart”.

  83. But there’s a difference between the two, Eingang Ausfahrt.

    Politically, ‘methods’ singles out specific incidences; ‘methodology’ is a pattern of repeated offenses, usually used to illustrate activities engaged by a strongly-held clique.

    Or, scientifically, techniques and processes vs. using those in a discipline.

  84. I speak several different jargons. Does that count?

  85. I speak several different jargons. Does that count?

    Absolutely, I have been affiliated with an organization whose name you would recognize instantly where entire sentences were spoken in acronyms.

  86. “yoko huono ilma” = shrieking faart

  87. slewfoot.

    He’s the straw that sucks up the drink.

  88. When I saw this post, I knew wrestling season was nearing an end. While it nice to see some of the load off of Darleen’s shoulders, I can’t help but think Jeff is overcompensating with a bit too much TL;DR chum.

    But no one can argue the fact that he’s certainly back to pulling his weight. Take that monthly fundraiser cash and buy yourself something pretty. You’ve earned it.

  89. You just can’t quit us, steve.

  90. ban esteban

  91. >Take that monthly fundraiser cash and buy yourself something pretty. You’ve earned it. <

    at least mr. g. provides useful info banesteban. you on the other hand spew proggtarded

  92. Going to all that trouble to set up another false face, and still having nothing but insults and inanity.

    Just like we expected.

    >i>TL;DR chum.

    1. Skim Until Offended.

  93. That one also included “make shit up”, Drum.

  94. I can’t wait til I read something like:

    “hellomynameisesteban says January 10, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    When I saw this post, I knew wrestling with my cock was nearing an end. While it nice to shoot a load off with one hand while typing with another, I can’t help but think Jeff is compensating with a bit too much normal thinking.

    But no one can argue the fact that he’s certainly back to pulling his weight. Take that extra bandwidth my absence will provide and fill it with something more useful. Which is about anything. You’ve earned it.”
    - See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52412#comment-1049772

    Or better yet, and the tactic I prefer, go back and delete every syllable Dog Vomit typed here. He earned it.

  95. Or better yet, and the tactic I prefer, go back and delete every syllable Dog Vomit typed here.

    No, comment sections that do that always leave people wondering what was left out, and makes the thread hard to follow. Besides, why deprive others of his comedy ?

  96. I agree, Eingang. If he can’t take getting tossed out on his ass, then his stupidity should shine bright for all the see.

    They don’t let you do that at Democratic Underground, do they steve? You get disappeared over there.

  97. You get disappeared over there.

    Not very Democratic of them, is it ?

  98. Not at all. The irony is lost on them, poor lambs.

    Oh! I stole this from over at neo-neocon’s blog, re: our discussion of what nonsense is AGW.

    Robert Frost, poet laureate, shows his prescience. The commentary is also neo-neocon’s.

    Enjoy!

    THE BROKEN DROUGHT

    The prophet of disaster ceased to shout
    Something was going right outside the hall.
    A rain, though stingy, had begun to fall
    That rather hurt his theory of the drought
    And all the great convention was about.
    A cheer went up that shook the mottoed wall.
    He did as Shakespeare says, you may recall,
    Good orators will do when they are out.
    Yet in his heart he was unshaken sure
    The drought was one no spit of rain could cure.
    It was the drought of deserts. Earth would soon
    Be uninhabitable as the moon.
    What for that matter had it ever been?
    Who advised man to come and live therein?

    Does he not have the AGW prophets’ number, including the idea somehow that man is a blight upon the earth?

    Frost is often thought of as a quaint and homey New England bard, he of the silver mane and the Yankee accent. It was an image he carefully cultivated, and it wasn’t really a lie. But it was a great oversimplification. Frost was, among other things, an erudite and extremely well-read man who knew Greek and Latin and was deeply versed not only in the ancient classics in those languages but in the Bible, Shakespeare, science, philosophy, you-name-it.

  99. Entirely Democratic. They (the people) make the rules for all of us (the people), except for those Rethuglicans who shouldn’t be allowed an opinion, because they (the people) won’t tolerate intolerance (i.e., “that’s none of the government’s business” or “taxes are way too high”).

    Just like the People’s Democratic Republic of Korea, where everyone gets a vote. I remember Saddam holding an election during the run-up to the invasion, and him getting 100% of the vote. They know this because his Republican Guard had a list of every voter, checking them off, with the ballot having just the single question, as well as the voter’s name and address. (After his previous election, where he got “only” 99.96% of the vote.)

    That’s the kind of Democratic result DV wants.

  100. It seems he rather enjoys the idea of a Soviet “justice”. The kind where they take all your money and most of your food. Set you to work growing crops that you then surrender, keeping none for yourself. Woe to those who do, too. The police will search your home and outbuildings (are you listening Boston?) for contraband and then bust a cap in your noggin if they find anything.

    It’s rather extreme, but he fancies himself to be on the “right side of history” and such things will only come to pass on others, not he.

    Think again, flunky.

  101. They always forget which side has the guns…

  102. The guys who confiscated them only took them for people’s own safety.

    The children, you know.

  103. They always forget which side has the guns…

    However, to this they reply to the effect that “you think you can take on the US Military with your guns”, completely missing the irony that they are cheering on just guys with guns like the Taliban and Al Qaeda with all the fervor they cheered on the Viet Cong.

  104. “Why do you needan AR-15?”

    “Because I can.”

  105. guys with guns like the Taliban and Al Qaeda

    Oh, no, they would be cheering those guys on even more, because they are “freedom fighters”. It’s the ones calling for smaller government and less bureaucratic intrusion that are the racist Nazi terrorists.

  106. “Why do you want to carry a gun?”

    “Because I can’t carry a cop.”

  107. Israelis? No way. Those dudes are occupiers who need to get out of the way of the poor Palestinians.

    It’s the same logic that makes Peter King think it’s A-Okay to pal around with the IRA.

  108. “Why do you want to carry a gun?”

    “You think I want to carry a gun!? Are you nuts!? But if the occasion arises where I need a gun, and I don’t have one, then I’d have to defend myself by dropping a house on the other guy, and the people living in that house are going to need therapy afterwards.”

  109. Steven. So blissfully unaware, he doesn’t know he beclowns himself with every post.

    Welcome back Steven.
    I take it you don’t have any lefty friends that are smarter than you. That’s disturbing. Not unanticipated though.
    We anxiously await you lefty insights, that were just moments before were talking points advocated by Salon, Huffpo or the Daily Kos, filtered through your flaccid brain.
    Market analysis must be dead easy if you’re doing it.

  110. goodbyemynameisstebbyy’all thought he looked like a terrific dancer to the world, but all anybody saw was a ratty old scarecrow on a stick shook about real hard by some passing wind.

  111. “the racist Nazi terrorists.”

    You mean the stupid flat earther climate denying racist homophobic Nazi born again Christer anarchist terrorists who want to steal tax money from the poor, destroy the safety net, poison the air and water, and fight over transplant lungs in the street while denying everyone health care and better outcomes, end all employment, and destroy the global economy and drown coastal cities?

  112. Laffer curve and collective unconscious. Man.

  113. *yawn*

    Ah, so steeeeeeeeve did pretty much exactly as predicted?

    My, what a non-surprise.

  114. “Besides, why deprive others of his comedy ?”</i

    Comedy? Eight thousand comments containing one joke that was old six years ago, and you call that comedy?

    OK, well, I'll just join Pablo on skipping all the Dog Vomit threads so's you all can get your riotous fun on.

    I'll just save it for if I have trouble falling asleep.

  115. “I like old jokes. With them, I know when to laugh.”

  116. “It’s a final flourish of self-proclaimed victory and intellectual onanism, one that often leaves a spot on the rug.”

    ****Introduction

    I felt like a teenager skipping college class for the first time, and I’m sure he did too. Somehow this shared “naughty experience really opened him up. Here we were, strangers, running away together to have a drink at a random bar.

    [...]

    We arrived at the bar, had one drink and it led to another. You know how sometimes there’s a summer camp mentality and a stranger suddenly appears to be a best friend.

    [...]

    So there we were on the top floor of a skyscraper looking out over the red beads of brake lights below, and I ask him his secret.

    [...]

    I am not able to publish these findings in any psychology journal. Business journals that I have approached have tended to act as if it was all a joke.

    I assure you it is not joke. As embarrassing as it is to admit it, I myself started following these routines and as a direct consequence, I am publishing this book today. Masturbation WILL lead to the realization of your dreams. It will focus you. Energize you. It will allow you to see with clarity. Follow the instructions in this book and you too, will find success.

    Sincerely, Dr. Stephen Larkin PhD

    Basic Instructions

    Please be responsible and only read this book in the privacy of a place where masturbation is neither illegal nor offensive. Make sure you will not be disturbed. Have adequate supplies around to “take care of” any consequences of masturbating.****

    Beat Your Way to the Top: Masturbation as a technique for business success

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