December 16, 2013

Dear Roger Waters, formerly of Pink Floyd, waxes political.

And honestly, it’s somewhat comforting for me to discover that, like his music, his politics hasn’t much evolved since the usefully-idiotic radical chic days of Little Drummer Girl.

Here’s an idea: take several hundred Jews, drop them into Transjordan, and have them demand equal rights, etc.,– all while openly proclaiming that their political and religious mission, forever more, is to wipe the Arabs who host them off the face of the earth, to drive these pigs and dogs into the sea.

If these several hundred Jews are accepted and allowed to speak their piece, safe from the barbarism generally visited upon non-Muslims in Arab and or Muslim territories or countries, we can all revisit Mr Waters’ bracing “argument.”

If, however, they aren’t, Mr Waters agrees to take a sharp stick and jam it through his grubby, twisted, anti-Semitic tongue.

Sometimes, another brick in the wall is just what’s needed to keep those with an open declaration of your extermination from carrying out their designs.

Or, to put it another way, go fuck yourself, you dried up husk of a political moron. And stop putting shrooms in your falafels.

Posted by Jeff G. @ 3:24pm
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  1. Through his grubby, twisted, anti-Semitic tongue and not up his proudly uncircumcised pee-hole?

    You still not feeling well or something?

  2. Again with the Zionist Overlords, Roger? Get a life.

  3. Much of what is wrong in this world stems from the unwillingness of famous idiots to believe evil people when they describe their evil plans.

    Faced with Ming the Merciless, Lex Luthor, Viktor von Doom, Darkseid and Hello Kitty, they stand like Mars Attacks!‘s General Casey, utterly convinced they don’t really mean to destroy the world for their own gain.

  4. Palestinans are disgusting

  5. *stinians* I mean

  6. A brick to the head, that’s what he needs.

  7. Palestinian is an erzatz category, actually. It’s possible to understand these peoples as Arabs who refused citizenship in either Israel or Jordan, and nothing more. But erzatz nowadays, as we see from the mere example of the ClownDisaster, is hip, it’s in, it’s the thing.

  8. palaeomerus says December 16, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    The Final Cut (Waters)
    Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes
    I can barely define the shape of this moment in time
    And far from flying high in clear blue skies
    I’m spiraling down to the hole in the ground where I hide.
    If you negotiate the minefield in the drive
    And beat the dogs and cheat the cold electronic eyes
    And if you make it past the shotgun in the hall,
    Dial the combination, open the priesthole
    And if I’m in I’ll tell you what’s behind the wall.
    There’s a kid who had a big hallucination
    Making love to girls in magazines.
    He wonders if you’re sleeping with your new found faith.
    Could anybody love him
    Or is it just a crazy dream?
    And if I show you my dark side
    Will you still hold me tonight?
    And if I open my heart to you
    And show you my weak side
    What would you do?
    Would you sell your story to Rolling Stone?
    Would you take the children away
    And leave me alone?
    And smile in reassurance
    As you whisper down the phone?
    Would you send me packing?
    Or would you take me home?
    Thought I oughta bare my naked feelings,
    Thought I oughta tear the curtain down.
    I held the blade in trembling hands
    Prepared to make it but just then the phone rang
    I never had the nerve to make the final cut.
    Then Pink Floyd went off to do their own thing and Rogers did stuff like Ms. Body Goes Walking or whatever and Radio Kaos. And he sued them because HE was really Pink Floyd ’cause he said so, and lost. Then the Berlin Wall came down so they all got together with a lot of other celebrities and used that as a marketing event. The end. Except for that ‘Amused themselves to death’ CD.

    Oh, and the Somgs from Body stuff all sounded kind of like the first Gorillaz CD (a stoner messing around with riffs and an 8 track recorder).

  9. Is it odd that I hated the Wall song from the first time I heard it on account of the evil doctrine, never bothering to hear it again, only to have the author emerge sometime later in the guise of a jew hater? Maybe not so much.

  10. Arabs who refused citizenship in either Israel or Jordan are disgusting

  11. It’s possible to understand these peoples as Arabs who refused citizenship in either Israel or Jordan, and nothing more.

    Or Egypt, or Saudi Arabia, or Syria, or Iraq, or Iran…

    And given the kind of crap they routinely pull, it would take an Arab Jimmy Carter to allow that septic tank of the Middle East to become residents of their country, like Castro did to the US. Besides, they serve as useful weapons against the hated JOOOOOOOOOS, with the willing collusion of the progressive politicians of the world (see also France and the current Democrat Party of the US).

    I mean, these guys deserve a nation of their own, if for no other reason than it will allow Israel to recognize the existence of the ongoing Dar al-Harb, kick them the hell out (again) and annex the territory once and for all time.

  12. A lot of the Palestians are there because they tried and failed to take over Jordan under Arrafat. They fled across the river for political safety.

  13. It isn’t clear to me that the self-outcast Arabs do deserve a nation “of their own”, apart from either Israel or Jordan (only under conditions to be decided by either of these sovereign nation-states, each for themselves at this pass of time). Surely nothing the self-outcast Arabs have done in the intervening years indicates that they are prepared to build a nation of their own, nor, for that matter, the necessity of such an effort.

  14. it’s like lucy and the football where the palestinians are like charlie brown and the football is like a nation of their own and lucy is a mean old jew

  15. Surely nothing the self-outcast Arabs have done in the intervening years indicates that they are prepared to build a nation of their own, nor, for that matter, the necessity of such an effort.

    Exactly my point, but if they are given that nation, it will make it easier for Israel to respond to the ongoing and repeated casus belli, and then they will no longer have that nation, and Israel need no longer bother with the niceties of world opinion.

    Independent groups don’t have to worry about puny things like “laws” and “Geneva Conventions”. Nations do. They will either grow up VERY quickly, or cease to exist. Problem solved, either way.

    Look at it this way: if Egypt were to start pulling some of the things that the so-called “Palestineans” do, Israel could simply declare war and wage war as though it actually meant something, and Egypt wouldn’t be able to turn to the world press and claim victimhood status, since they have laws and treaties, and they would clearly be the provocateurs. Time to make the Palis grow up or shut up.

  16. Who might deserve a nation-state of their own though, is the Kurds, despite that they too in part have been implicated in numerous shady acts these last fifty years or so. Still, they’ve demonstrated more than enough need to be sovereign over themselves, apart from the nasty Turks on the one hand, the nasty Arabs, on the next hand, the foul Persians on the third hand, and the disgusting Syrian dictator on the fourth hand (there was a pair of Kurds there, one male, the other female).

  17. A little thing like ‘death’ has never prevented PW from scoring an occasional interview with various celebrities and/or the unusually loquacious bowl of breakfast cerial. I’m sure Billy will be checking in for years to come.

  18. “Does this mean Billy Jack will stop posting screeds here Jeff?”

    I’m looking forward to the first convo between him and Corey Haim.

  19. Leif should still be with us and coherent for some time I suspect ……….

  20. I’m looking forward to the first convo between him and Corey Haim.

    I bet Corey Haim isn’t.

  21. Billy Jack: Casey!

    Corey: That’s Corey,

    Billy Jack: If I buy you some pants, like jeans maybe, will you put ‘em on and wear them like a normal human being?

    Corey: …Probably not.

    Billy Jack: That’s just the Long Island Iced Tea talking boy.

    Corey: Yeah? You mean your drinks talk to you too?

  22. “. Still, they’ve demonstrated more than enough need to be sovereign over themselves, ‘

    The North Iraqi Kurds have a bad habit of forgetting where the Turskish border is and trying to grab a chunk of Turkey to make a Kurdistan out of.

  23. I don’t know about you guys, but I have the sense that the more the political left, both here and abroad, pushes to ostracize Israeli life — in whatever manner, way, shape or form this is done — the more frequently, more openly and volubly the Israelis talk about simply annexing the contested areas in Judea and Samaria. As I wrote geoffb a few days ago, these two phenomena look like Dr. Dolittle’s Pushme-Pullyou critter, to me.

  24. “This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let’s not bicker and argue about who annexed who…”

  25. That’s part of the thing about Kurdistan though, isn’t it palaeomerus? I.e., that the areas within Turkey long inhabited by Kurds need to be ruled by Kurds, and more or less the same with those areas in Iran, Iraq (though here the Kurds have already achieved some semblance of autonomy) and Syria, where in this last too, autonomy seems to have arrived willy-nilly in the wake of Assad’s general attacks? They’ve been pounded upon long enough already, and want out.

  26. I cannot count the number of acquaintances who do/did not know that there are Arab Israeli citizens. Indeed, there are a number in the Knesset. Their little secret is that most would not wish to live in a state run by Fatah or Hamas.

  27. Rush mentioned today that to be a member, in good standing on the progressive-left you have to be for abortion. That is one position that you must take or you are out.

    I’d say that is for the domestic policy area. In foreign policy, to be in good standing on the left you must hate Israel and it is best if you intensely dislike Jews in general. Even if you are one yourself. Expressing love for, solidarity with, the “Palestinians” is just another way of doing it which appears less anti-Semitic.

  28. >Expressing love for, solidarity with, the “black america”“Palestinians” is just another way of doing it which appears less anti-white americaanti-Semitic.

  29. An explanation of why “” doesn’t work. It was coded in C+=

    In the scope of my research, a feminist programming language is to be built around a non-normative paradigm that represents alternative ways of abstracting. The intent is to encourage and allow new ways of thinking about problems such that we can code using a feminist ideology.

    To succinctly sum up my research thus far I will outline the decomposition of my question below:

    The idea came about while discussing normative and feminist subject object theory. I realized that object oriented programmed reifies normative subject object theory.
    A non-normative paradigm would be something that does not reinforce normative realizations of what a programming language is…. The ideas is that the standard, normative, concepts reinforce the values and ideologies of societies standards. … In many ways this falls under the scope of critical code studies, as I am asking questions about the cultural, social impact of normal programming constructs.
    What is a feminist logic is a question I’ve spent the past six months thinking about and researching. There are not a lot of women in philosophy, and there are definitely not a lot of feminist philosophers, so I don’t have a good answer for this question. There is great scholarship talking about weather a feminist logic can build off of formal logic or if it has to reject the laws of identity and create something entirely new.

  30. There is great scholarship talking about weather a feminist logic can build off of formal logic or if it has to reject the laws of identity and create something entirely new.

    Oy vey. And that’s “whether” not “weather”, Ms. Feminist.

  31. Heh. So, would Grace Hopper be amused, or appalled?

  32. I’ll bet on appalled. She looks rather humorless.

  33. As part of “critical code studies” will each computer be encouraged to discard the “intent” of the programmer and read [rewrite] the code to “mean” what it “wants” the code to mean?

    HAL was already there first, eh Dave?

  34. Best not to judge a book by its cover, I’m reckoning.

  35. ASA vote to boycott Israel.

  36. Feminist code?

    I’d pay to see that run.

  37. “or if it has to reject the laws of identity and create something entirely new”

    “Fiat,” “Caprice,” and “just so” are hardly ‘something entirely new’ though perhaps they might be considered new on a geologic time scale.

  38. Why is zero associated with falsehood and One with truth? The visual symbplism is obvious. The long masculine symbol exists and the feminine symbol is seen as a void, as nothing! It’s all patriarchal lies! Penis penis penis penis! Penis raping the very brain!

  39. Why is zero associated with falsehood and One with truth?

    Yeah sure, just as clitoris 1 (the allpenis precursor) is the seat of all proper pleasure while the O dumbly gapes zip-it.

  40. Well, Obama is both Zero and (teh) Wan — both truth and untruth?

    20 REPEAT 10
    30 STUPID
    40 EOF

  42. should be “15 IF MHP GOTO 30″

  43. Feminist Programming Language?

    Is that supposed to be a joke, or a prank?

  44. “Well, Obama is both Zero and (teh) Wan — both truth and untruth? ”

    It depends on the operation. 1 and 0 is false because 1 x 0 =0. 1 or 0 is true because 1 + 0 =1. Unless you have an output inverter in the circuit. That would make adn output of 0 become an output of 1 and an output of 1 become 0. Not that it matters anyway. It’s all just bool sheet logic.

  45. Our numbers are all sexist Arab lies probably stolen from Hindus who plstered dicks and pussy’s everywhere they had space. Romans didn’t even have a symbol for zero they cared so little for xx chromosome life. And teh Greek numbers were just letter because the greeks were too fucking cheap to hire a graphic designer to give them a proper snazzy numerical character set.

    The Persians only had two numbers. The emperor is happy, and the emperor is not happy yet. I totally just made that up.

  46. Call someone a rapist and you’ve got a degree in Feminist Mathematics…

  47. “I promise you, naming no names, I’ve spoken to people who are terrified that if they stand shoulder to shoulder with me they are going to get f***ed. They have said to me: ‘Aren’t you worried for your life?’ and I go ‘No, I’m not.’ A few years ago, I was touring, and 9/11 happened in the middle of the tour,l and two or three people in my band who happened to be United States citizens wouldn’t come on the next leg of the tour. I said ‘Why not? Don’t you like the music anymore?’ and they replied ‘No, we love the music, but we are Americans, and it’s too dangerous for us to travel abroad. They are trying to kill us,’ and I thought ‘Wow!’” added Waters.

    Yes, you thought “Wow, those damned Jooooos!” Because you’re a fucking moron.

  48. Obama is the leader of a set of nulls.

    Oh, on the front page of my hotel-provided USA Today, the top lead is of course ‘Judge rejects NSA phone spying’. A George Bush appointee, naturally. Also a stock pic of Edward Snowden. Who opines…

    “Today, a secret program authorized by a secret court was, when exposed to the light of day, found to violate American’s rights. It is the first of many.”

    I like this guy.

    Comparisons to Paul Revere may be in order.

  49. Who let all this riffraff into the room?

  50. Greetings:

    My musical life really started off with maternally-mandated piano lessons in the third grade. My teacher, Sister Frances de Chantal, probably earned her way into the Heavenly Academy of Music Teachers based on her inextinguishable patience for my inanities and inabilities. For six years or so, she guided me, slowly but surely, into the classical canon which resulted in my musical tastes being for longer form, non-lyrical compositions.

    I first came upon Pink Floyd early one Saturday morning when, coming home from a festive night out, I flicked on the TV to see them performing on the local PBS station. They were playing “One of These Days” (…I’m going to cut you into little pieces.) while in the background there was a video of a crop duster doing its thing. I was hooked and the next day, I got a copy of their album “Meddle” which included the magisterial, 23-minute, whole side of the LP “Echoes”. From there, I kind of worked backwards especially to “Umma Gumma”. Many of those pieces, such as “Be Careful with That Axe, Eugene”, “Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun”, and “Astromine Domine” pleased me primarily because of the paucity of lyrics and their extended length. Again, my classical music residuals had resurfaced.

    As I continued to follow the group’s musical outputs, I never paid all that much attention to their lyrics. I knew they were saying something or other, but I had survived some serious parenting and was in no danger, at anytime, of confusing Roger Waters with St. Thomas Aquinas. While the group achieved great popularity after Sid Barrett’s early demise, (and “The Great Gig in the Sky” is certainly one of my all time favorite songs) I still think that its best work was prior to its superstardom. I still enjoy the later work from time to time, but the early pieces strike a much deeper chord.

    As to Roger Waters’ politics, well, I would prefer that they be other than what you report, but, in the end, I’m only into him for the music.

  51. He’s a “serious arteest,” don’tchaknow.

    (Why that makes him and other arteests think that gives them some special insight on human nature that isn’t available to the rest of us, nobody has ever explained to my satisfaction.)

  52. “I’ll bet on appalled. She looks rather humorless.”

    Occupational hazard of becoming a Rear Admiral.

    Actually she had an excellent sense of humor.

    A page from one of her log books:

  53. Amazing that she managed to become a math PhD *and* a high-ranking Naval officer using plain ‘ol patriarchal mathematics, innit?

  54. That is pretty fucking awesome, SBP. A literal code bug.

  55. A diversion from the diverter (i.e., in lieu of the troll), some Mozart — it’s math too . . . just think of him waving his dick at us.

  56. It’s always unsettling when a genius in a particular field, especially one I’ve been immersed in my whole life, turns out to be, well, not a genius in real life. Remember Sheryl Crow? She was/is just an idiot. Waters has revealed something much darker. It’s hard to reconcile those two things co-existing in one human being.

  57. Expertise in one field does not carry over into other fields. But experts often think so. The narrower their field of knowledge the more likely they are to think so. — R. A. Heinlein

    The problem is that when someone has surrounded themselves with people whose only job is to remind them how wonderful they are, and applaud their every bon mot with oohs and aahs of well-paid admiration, they tend to think that Fame = Wisdom. And OF COURSE everything they have to say is just as important as they are.

    Bradley Whitford has my undying admiration for recognizing this fact when he was asked about an ongoing diplomatic situation (based on his international expertise developed filming ‘The West Wing’) by replying, “How would I know? I’m an actor. That’s like three steps up from a dancing monkey.”

  58. Yes, of course, but it’s still a shock when someone who has made some of the most hauntingly beautiful music and some of the most poignant comments on the human condition turns out to be a fucking Nazi.

  59. See also: Wagner.

  60. A feminist programming language, where (p && ¬p) == 1. Of course, given a false predicate p, (p?q) is always true, so one could see where the appeal of this madness lies.

    Speaking as someone trained in mathematics and computer science, who excelled in graduate classes in mathematical logic, the foundations of mathematics, and computational logic, allow me to say, “The stupid, it burns!”

  61. During my first job, I encountered a man aplying FFTs to musical scores who claimed that the results allowed him to state with certainty who the composer was.

  62. Sorry, two posts up that was supposed to be a character for p “implies” q, but the arrowy character doesn’t seem to express well when translated through html.

    Oh, and I wonder if this feminist programming language would more correctly model Mealy machines (only stable during tranistions) or Moore (only stable in a state) machines.

  63. Eh, Roger is probably just trying to score a White House New Years Eve party invitation.

    Bet it works, too.

  64. charlesaustin, here’s someone’s implementation of a feminist programming language:

    I found it quite impressive.

  65. serr8d says December 17, 2013 at 6:03 am
    Obama is the leader of a set of nulls.
    - See more at:

    I am so stealing that.

  66. The Pros and Cons of hitchhiking..etc.. is still one of my favorite records. That said, if I’m going to listen to someone with shitty politics*, I’ll listen to the Gourds**.

    * just a wild guess.

    ** or really anyone else, for that matter, but the Gourds are on iTunes at the moment.

  67. Speaking of…

    I discovered I can take dry chickpeas and process them like coffee beans to powder.

    Then match that powder with 3X the volume of water.

    And butter, or olive oil, and chile powder to make it hot, cayenne if you like it as I do, and diced onion, crushed garlic, cumin, cinnamon, whatever spices you like and microwave until it boils, just a few minutes, in pulses, and stirring throughout.

    Lemon or lime, of course.

    As far as tahini go, I’ve tried four different kinds, and made my own by processing sesame seeds, both husked and unhusked, so I experimented a lot, and to be honest about it, tahini tastes like peanut butter to me. What a disappointment the sesame taste does not come through. But sesame oil does. So use that if you want sesame seed taste.

    These are my observations, my experience, and my opinions regard hummus and falafel.

  68. they make whipped peanut butter now

    it’s not like matthew shepard whipped more like whipped cream whipped

    it’s kinda sick how tasty this stuff is

    i love it so much

  69. Was that “matthew shepard whipped” like in “whipped like a rented mule by his drug dealer looking for some quick cash” or “whipped into a media frenzy by people looking to push an Official H8R Narrative”?

  70. and heaven and nature sing

  71. Here’s hoping homeschoolers are teaching their children to eschew portamento. Hit the notes, kiddies.

  72. Oh, lookit! A refreshing turn toward sanity (if not precisely on the most forthright grounds of straightforward opposition to the jew-hate evinced by the ASA) on the part of Brandeis and Penn State Universities. May there be many more such actions to follow.

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  74. I have made hummus by putting cooked chickpeas through my juicer with the homogenizer blank in place, just like making peanut butter. Never tried it with dried chickpeas. I’d have to use the blender, maybe.

    Yes, I have a Blendtek. Chickpeas will blend; bank on it.

  75. From The Right Scoop, a short video well worth watching: it traces the history of the coverage of the holocaust in the New York Times.

    To quote A. M. Rosenthal from the piece “Sometimes things are not said, they are done.”

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