October 5, 2013

Make the People suffer Day 5 — Obama: Not only can I stop the rise of the oceans, I can also close them [Darleen Click]

Remember this:

Now King Barry is “closing” 1,100 square miles of open ocean to fishing

Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was “closed” due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown.

The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban. Of access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal course of business.

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  1. More resources to guard a section of ocean than he used to defend Benghazi?

    No, I’m not talking about during the attack, I mean to have guarded the entire complex during times of relative peace before TFG abrogated his oath of office.

    Given that the actual “formal” embassy was in Tripoli, this is entirely possible, especially now that he is spending more resources to keep out WW2 veterans than would have been spent to patrol that park for a month.

    I wonder which members of the Royal Court would be considered “non-essential”…

    I further wonder whether we ought to write a clause into the new Constitution that says “In event of failure to produce and enact a balanced budget, the pay of all Senators, Representatives, the Vice President and the President, and the directors or Secretaries, or acting director or Secretary, of any Executive Agency, Department, Bureau or Commission shall be withheld and refunded into the Treasury of the United States until such time as a balanced budget is signed into law.”

  2. Take a look at the moronic commentary by Marc Thiessen today, where funding government by detailed (i.e., rational) allocation and appropriation is called “piece-meal”, and dismissed as a possible object of a responsible legislature, as if such a process had never been the regular order of approach to rational governance — as if only omnibus funding or funding by continuing resolution were the norm.

    With retards like this Thiessen imbecile for an ally, the Republicans do well to surrender. And with Republicans like that for representatives, the people do well to found a new party to take up their political interests in Congress.

  3. Day 5 into the ACA rollout and I’ve successfully registered – been accepted to NY’s expanded Medicaid program and will await participation in the exchanges. Pretty successful overall.

  4. If enslaving oneself is to be considered a success, I guess.

  5. Totally, going from having no insurance and being bankrupted by a catastrophic medical emergency to having a plan based on my needs and matched to my income is really like being enslaved. You must really have no conception of how people actually live to make the absurd claim that poor people getting health insurance – is akin to slavery – when the alternative is debt slavery to the insurance industry. It’s actually rather insulting to slaves.

  6. You must really have no conception of how people actually live . . .

    Ha. That’s a good one.

    It isn’t akin to slavery. It is slavery, dimwit.

  7. having a plan based on my needs and matched to my income is really like being enslaved ”

    At very high prices and on compulsion by an increasingly large fine? And matched to your needs? Le bullshit.

  8. It’s kinda eerie to see a (presumably) grown man so self satisfied at becoming a ward of the state.

  9. He isn’t merely satisfied to have his own uses taken care of Lee, but to see his fellow citizens jerked around to provide them for him, be they tax penalty-payers, doctors, nurses, business-people. . . name ‘em — the lords will decide.

  10. “from having no insurance and being bankrupted by a catastrophic medical emergency to having a plan based on my needs and matched to my income”

    Ah, I see. An irresponsible man-child caught in his negligence and baile out at the expense of his more responsible neighbors.

    It’s become a pattern. Is why someone like myself, who has carried insurance my whole adult life, owes the government over a $million for dimbulbs like Dale.

  11. dalek doesn’t think of himself as a slave. But he’s okay with being a slave owner. Dalek, as far as he’s concerned, is completely entitled to the work of others, for the “fairness.”

  12. Not that I should have to explain my life choices to anyone – but I’m earning an advanced degree and working seasonal jobs in the Summer prior to a PHD program. I’m not working while I study and private health care plans cost upwards of 400$/month + NYC rent which is unsustainable on student loans.

    So I have no problem participating in a federal program until I’m employed and get coverage from my job. The shame angle won’t work on young, intelligent people who have to make choices between having lives worth living and being slaves to an asymmetrical economic system. So yes, I’m quite pleased and rather patriotic that during this phase in my life I can have access to low or no cost health care because that’s my human right as an American citizen – and further, it’s not going anywhere as far as I can help it.

  13. I will not negotiate with terrorists Republicans until they give me everything I demand and then we can negotiate over???

  14. Moar rent control! For the win!

  15. I think dalek is lying to us. Last I looked, the Obamacare web sites were to be shut down across the weekend, in order to fix the “glitches.”

  16. I’m not lying. I did it this afternoon. There was some crashing, but all it took was a page refresh to get the site going again. The state exchanges are doing maintenance at different times/different days. NY has been tweeting about their increased maintenance efforts and I suppose they paid off. So yeah – nothing like the ginger kid who said he had it/became meme – then turned out not to have it.

  17. STF

  18. “low or no cost health care because that’s my human right as an American citizen”

    From whence does this “right” materialize? A doctors “duty”?

  19. Totally, going from having no insurance and being bankrupted by a catastrophic medical emergency to having a plan based on my needs and matched to my income is really like being enslaved.

    Cry me a river, Dale, that you believe your own choices and bad luck constitutes a right to a portion of your neighbor’s earnings.

    You are morally bankrupt.

  20. I think dalek is lying to us.

    This cannot be a problem — not to him, not to us. It’s the lying to himself that’s going to cause his trouble.

  21. Yeah, dalek, we believe you, because leftists are known for their personal and intellectual honesty.

  22. Dale is as credible as Chad Henderson, the OFA plant who rickrolled the ObamaMedia.

  23. When I was getting my PhD I managed to have health insurance the entire time.

    The notion that you can look to other people to pay for the consequences of your life choices is childish. The progressives are, at heart, spoiled children.

  24. I still think that if we had to get our car insurance the same way we get our health insurance, we would be arguing over co-pays for car washes and oil changes.

    And no matter how hard Uncle Sugar pushes his thumb down on the scale, the laws of supply and demand are as implacable as the laws of gravity.

    Well, I’m off to demand my right to a beachfront mansion…

  25. Totally, going from having no insurance and being bankrupted by a catastrophic medical emergency to having a plan based on my needs and matched to my income

    Any government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have. — Gerald Ford

    “Matched to your income”? Which of your neighbors would you choose to pay the subsidies you are receiving? Do you have the balls to tell them to their faces that you are the reason their taxes are so high? (You will actually have to find someone you know who actually pays taxes, but I’m sure even someone of your overt selfishness knows one or two. Check your parents, if they haven’t managed to fake their own deaths yet.)

  26. OT, the Won wades into another controversy below US Presidential status (but nothing can get below the Won!).

    <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_REDSKINS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-05-10-21-17President Barack Obama says he would "think about changing" the Washington Redskins' name if he owned the football team as he waded into the controversy involving a word that many consider offensive to Native Americans.

    I must say though, I’m coming around to the idea myself, In light of what’s going on with the various open air monuments lately. Maybe he should give the Indians what they want, and force the team to change their name to the Washington Indian Givers.

  27. I have issued an Executive Order that exempts me and my entire family, using exactly the same authority that Obama had to do so.

    (Waits for the penny to drop…)

  28. So yes, I’m quite pleased and rather patriotic that during this phase in my life I can have access to low or no cost health care because that’s my human right as an American citizen – and further, it’s not going anywhere as far as I can help it.

    No, you’re a shitweasel thinking he’s entitled to things he hasn’t earned and doesn’t deserve. Simple as that, dearie.

  29. Well, that looks weird, but I guess it works.

    I really, really miss preview…

  30. drumwaster, you forget that NYC is the capital of both the financial industry and US income inequality. if only i was so lucky to tell the billionaires in this city that they are subsidizing not just myself but all of the other families in my neighborhood that have been eviscerated by bloomberg and the 1%. i’d be fucking thrilled.

  31. because that’s my human right as an American citizen

    Anything that costs a third party time, effort or wealth in order for YOU to exercise it is NOT a right, it is a commodity. You have the right to express an opinion, but you don’t get to use taxpayer money to rent a hall and hire an audience. You have the right to worship the Deity of your choice, but you don’t get to force your neighbor to build the inverted pentagram and pit for you to do so.

    Anyone who managed to grow up past elementary school would have already grasped that.

    Or is this obvious lapse on your part the lesson you are trying to teach?

  32. “I’m not lying. I did it this afternoon. There was some crashing, but all it took was a page refresh to get the site going again. The state exchanges are doing maintenance at different times/different days.”

    Heh, something tells me instead of signing up for insurance, Dale is going to be receiving a pair of Uggs in 4-7 days…

  33. Mr. khunter is quite the idiot. I’m almost embarrassed for him.

    Almost.

  34. You don’t understand math, do you? If you were to steal… pardon me, “nationalize”, sorry… “nationalize” the entire assets of the entirety of the Forbes 400, it wouldn’t be enough to fund the Federal Government (just the Fed, mind you, none of the State, County or City governments involved) for the length of a single baseball season, much less an entire year. (roughly $2 trillion, according to Forbes).

    But what happens then? Where is the other trillion-plus going to come from? What about the state governments? County Boards? City Councils? Yeah, the argument is that “the 400 have as much wealth as the bottom 50%”, but the response is easy…

    Exxon pays more in corporate income tax than that sacred bottom 50% – combined. And 10% of a million dollars is still twenty times more than 10% of $50,000.

    Learn math. It will help to keep you from sounding so fucking stupid.

  35. You must really have no conception of how people actually live to make the absurd claim that poor people getting health insurance – is akin to slavery – when the alternative is debt slavery to the insurance industry

    Said the mind that promotes an extortionate system at all odds with the entire country’s founding premises. Because, dalekhunter, you expect good service — if any at all — from a dysfunctional getup that shall fine or even imprison you if you do not partake of its single-payer trajectory.

    And you do so with both pleasure and an evident disdain for the good and proper alternative, which is excellence, choice, and economy of service by way of the functioning performance of your peers.

    This isn’t to say that the already chronically over-regulated and entirely crony-capitalized medical industry wasn’t broken. It was, which led rather directly to Obamacare, didn’t it. But it is to say that of causes, effects, and trajectories you care not one iota.

    Then I invite you to leave this country. Obviously you too are at odds with everything your countrymen once stood for.

  36. From “The Curious Republic of Gondour”:

    The victory was complete. The new law was framed and passed. Under it every citizen, howsoever poor or ignorant, possessed one vote, so universal suffrage still reigned; but if a man possessed a good common-school education and no money, he had two votes; a high-school education gave him four; if he had property likewise, to the value of three thousand ‘sacos,’ he wielded one more vote; for every fifty thousand ‘sacos’ a man added to his property, he was entitled to another vote; a university education entitled a man to nine votes, even though he owned no property. Therefore, learning being more prevalent and more easily acquired than riches, educated men became a wholesome check upon wealthy men, since they could outvote them. Learning goes usually with uprightness, broad views, and humanity; so the learned voters, possessing the balance of power, became the vigilant and efficient protectors of the great lower rank of society.

    And now a curious thing developed itself–a sort of emulation, whose object was voting power! Whereas formerly a man was honored only according to the amount of money he possessed, his grandeur was measured now by the number of votes he wielded. A man with only one vote was conspicuously respectful to his neighbor who possessed three. And if he was a man above the common-place, he was as conspicuously energetic in his determination to acquire three for himself. This spirit of emulation invaded all ranks. Votes based upon capital were commonly called “mortal” votes, because they could be lost; those based upon learning were called “immortal,” because they were permanent, and because of their customarily imperishable character they were naturally more valued than the other sort. I say “customarily” for the reason that these votes were not absolutely imperishable, since insanity could suspend them.

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3192/3192.txt

  37. dale-K-is-for-coveting

    no one has been, or should ever be, “forced” to buy insurance. It can be prudent but it certainly is not necessary.

    And more and more doctors are refusing to take ANY insurance. Concierge medicine will play an ever bigger role.

  38. But I’ll bet those State-Run Hospitals will be Models of Efficiency and Virtue.

    Just like the VA, right? Except with lots more sick people and lots fewer staff.

  39. It’s actually rather insulting to slaves.

    – Yes, it is, and we feel the utter contempt that thieves like yourself feel for people that pay their own way and are responsible for themselves since we’re the ones that have to pay for deadbeats like you.

  40. Obama closes the ocean and today NPS calls in the DC police to forcibly remove visitors from the Vietnam War Memorial.
    Meanwhile, NPR and PBS are still on air despite their (partial) federal funding. Go figure.

  41. - Of course in reality the deadbeats that the tax payers have to cover don’t give a fuck if the entire system goes balls up just as long as someone else is forced to pay their bills, and the Progressive commies don’t give a fuck as long as they can buy votes using other peoples money.

    – I hope the bad Karma really does a number on the Left before its all over.

  42. Libby

    Also, no one has Barrycaded the interstate highways … yet.

  43. but I’m earning an advanced degree and working seasonal jobs in the Summer prior to a PHD program. I’m not working while I study and private health care plans cost upwards of 400$/month + NYC rent which is unsustainable on student loans.

    “Earning an advanced degree” — working on which? BA, MA?
    “prior to a PhD program” — accepted or not? Only dalek knows.
    “NYC rent”— being forced to attend school in the city of New York when there are scores of universities in NY state.

    I’m calling bullshit, as well. I managed to work, go to school and take care of a husband and children while earning my PhD from a prestigious university, a private one at that. Insurance for an unmarried, childless student under the age of 25 costs next to nothing or is available at the campus clinics. If you have a chronic and persistent condition, definitely covered by Medicaid. If you are under 26, you are covered by your parents insurances.

    My sons have managed to work their way through college and graduate with honors, as well. Being responsible cuts into one’s party time, but some mature before others.

    Pay your own bills.

  44. Darleen – He’s already threatened a delay in SS and disability checks, and yet his precious propaganda machine remains on air and fully staffed. And check out where NPR is headquartered: http://preview.tinyurl.com/kn7rucy

    Meanwhile, businesses that operate on federal/NPS land are not only forced closed, but may even have to layoff employees and possibly even go out of business.

    * Claude Moore Colonial Farm (losing $15,000/day): http://tinyurl.com/plm4mpy

    *Recreational Resource management, Inc. (self-funded campground management co. that generates revenue for Treasury via user-fees): http://tinyurl.com/kbzpq4g

  45. We now live in a nation where the elite can reach down and shutter every last public property that exists. To hardly a protest.

    And while only 17% of the elite’s world is affected.

  46. Libby, those threats are idle. He cannot stop pay on SSI and Veteran’s Benefits in a fit of pique.

    It’s an empty threat.

  47. Yeah, idle threats that just show what a petulant, vindictive asshole he is. Anyone doubt he would delay them if he could?

  48. Barrycades around Iwo Jima memorial.

  49. There’s an update: Barrycades breached by a couple hundred of the Syracuse Honor Flight!

  50. Heh, barricade the Marine memorial? What are these idiots thinking? Might as well stand 15 ft. in front of an isolated Spanish fighting bull making taunting gestures.

  51. access to low or no cost health care because that’s my human right as an American citizen

    Then go out into the wilderness and harvest it from the trees it obviously must grow on.

    You, sir, are a thief, a charlatan, and a liar.

  52. I really hope they start arresting the veterans who are “breaking into” the memorials.

    This administration continues to amaze me with how low they will go.

  53. It kind makes me wish Walter Sobchak from “The Big Lebowski” would show up.

  54. This administration continues to amaze me with how low they will go.

    Would physical assault count?

    http://tinyurl.com/olj6vjx

  55. Last night I listened to a barroom pundit discourse on the “dirty teabaggers” holding America hostage and how Obama was going to use the 10th Amendment [sic] to outsmart them.

    Hilarious.

  56. Cops are acting like thugs? I’m shocked! Shocked!

  57. Parody becomes impossible regarding what these bozos will do.

    Blocking Mt. Rushmore

  58. if the Japanese Army (and 60+ years of random events) couldn’t keep them out, a little plastic doohickey doesn’t stand a chance

  59. doesn’t this really mostly just highlight what fucking dingleberries Park Service monkeys are?

    I encountered a handful of these National Park assmonkey losers on my trip. However comma I also met a few state park people what were extremely knowledgeable and sweet and engaging in the nicest way. Mostly thinking of Texas and Alabama.

  60. oh. There was a phenomenal cunt I met at Borrego Springs and that would’ve been a state park. But she was an exception.

    Borrego Springs is kind of a sad joke anyways they’re in the middle of nowheres and they’re desperately trying to arbitrarily declare themselves an art commune. But it just ain’t happening for them.

    Meanwhile Marfa is crazy booming with the art.

  61. So, dalekh, in what field is your advanced degree? And does it have any relationship to the real world? And you are proud that you’ll be on frickin’ Medicaid? I thought that was for poor people, not assholes working their way through school. And why are you proud to be on a program that I have to pay for? Where does it say that you have a right to access to health care as an American citizen? Are you for real?

  62. Red, the more I think about dalek’s post, the more I think it is so much crapola. Every school I’ve ever attended or my children have attended for that matter, has offered health insurance at affordable rates to the student. Unless he is “attending” a cyber school or Lilliput University, there is a clinic on site where one may receive flu shots and be treated for minor injuries and ailments. Free clinics in towns and cities will provide immunizations, prenatal care and mammograms, Pap smears and birth control, even chest x-rays for pneumonia and bronchitis.

    I’m betting his major is Library Science.

  63. library science is how we keep track of many of the knowledge

  64. So I have no problem participating in a federal program until I’m employed and get coverage from my job. The shame angle won’t work on young, intelligent people who have to make choices between having lives worth living and being slaves to an asymmetrical economic system. So yes, I’m quite pleased and rather patriotic that during this phase in my life I can have access to low or no cost health care because that’s my human right as an American citizen – and further, it’s not going anywhere as far as I can help it.

    “Ask not what your country can do for you…”

    Eat shit and die, “Patriot.”

  65. nothing sez “science” like the dewey decimal

  66. I can have access to low or no cost health care because that’s my human right as an American citizen

    that’s so gay

  67. I effing hate asymmetrical economic systemses

    asymmetrical economic systems just march right on in and crawl up your leg and start biting the inside of your ass and then you’re like GET OUT OF MY ASS YOU STUPID ASYMMETRICAL ECONOMIC SYSTEMS

  68. if only i was so lucky to tell the billionaires in this city that they are subsidizing not just myself but all of the other families in my neighborhood that have been eviscerated by bloomberg and the 1%. i’d be fucking thrilled.

    You were disemboweled by Nanny Mike and other rich folks? Is there video of this?

  69. Those problem rents in the Big Apple would be solved the minute they did away with rent control and let the free market in.

  70. Leigh, I have a hard time believing the progs are that stupid. Then I look at the White House.

  71. I always had student insurance when I was in grad school (I had to pay the premium out of my munificent TA/RA wages, but it wasn’t very expensive). Perhaps our correspondent should consider schools that aren’t in one of the most expensive cities in the world?

    That’s what I did. Applied to multiple programs, did a tradeoff calculation on university prestige, cost of living in the local area, and student assistant stipend, and made my choice.

  72. That’s what I did, as well Spies.

    Clearly, dalek’s major doesn’t involve much MATH! or critical thinking.

  73. No, no. It’s Bloomberg’s fault that poor Mr. Khunt-er can’t take care of himself. Therefore, New York owes him, despite his not having delivered anything of value for which such debt might accrue. Because human rights.

  74. You guys know that New York is about go to utter shit right? I mean it got worse under Nurse B but it’s on the road to being then next Detroit under their likely next Mayor. Get out while you can.

  75. Build a wall around that shit and send Kurt Russell in via glider every now and then to keep the Duke in line.

  76. You guys know that New York is about go to utter shit right?

    I did not know this i would like to know more about the details

  77. “about to go”…?

  78. I like to watch “Blue Bloods” and “White Collar” to help me imagine what New York might be like if it were a functioning city.

  79. I’m guessing I’d prefer living in Tulsa to New York City. And I know I’d have a better chance surviving an economic or social catastrophe in any American city not deemed The City.

  80. Tulsa is tussling about electing anew mayor.

    The old mayor, D natch, ran up humongous bills and got tossed out on her ass. The current mayor, R-man, is trying to fix her mess and running for re-election. The lies from former mayor are escalating. They are the closest metro area to us, so I get to here their ads on the radio.

    Thank God it’s over in a few weeks.

    DeBlasio is going to make NYers pine for the good old days of David Dinkins.

  81. David “this subway stabbing means we need more gun control” Dinkins?

  82. That’s him. Didn’t he also suggest that rape victims shouldn’t be out after dark dressed like “that”?

  83. $400 a month for a grad student’s insurance? That can only be true if he’s a heavy IV drug user who pays for his habit by trading away a lot of unprotected anal sex. Which would explain a lot of things about Mr. Khunter’s values and worldview…

  84. Funny, when it’s dalek’s time to put up or shut up, he/she/it . . . disappears.

  85. He’s a drive-by poster. I’m surprised he actually replied to the thread other than blatting out his usual garbage and escaping.

  86. I accept all blame for that. Consider me both denounced and called a racist. (It must be the loathing I have for Obama’s half-white side.)

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