July 3, 2013

Baldwin, Deen, and the glories of progressive anti-foundationalism

I think just about everyone — regardless of political affiliation — knew that the consequences of Alec Baldwin’s homophobic rant would be negligible, and that he’d be forgiven by politically liberal gay activist groups:  after all, all one need do, on the left, to immunize oneself from the consequences of his or her personal hatreds, no matter how ugly they are upon reveal, is agree to join in with a political movement whose broad-based strategy is to adopt political “support” for a number of interest groups, whom in many cases they presume to speak for, thus becoming part of a collective whose general “goodness” prevents their specific actions from ever being anything more than mere missteps.  Hence, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are still considered “civil rights leaders” and Reverend Jeremiah Wright a legitimate spiritual leader despite their obvious personal hatreds for Jews or whites or Hispanics, etc.  Bill Ayers is accepted in polite society because he is guilty only of overzealousness on behalf of a cause whose basic goodness cannot be questioned.

There can be no hypocrisy in such a worldview — save for the hypocrisy of those who hew to the hoary shackles of man-made constructs such as “reason”.  Which is liberating, given that it frees the progressive from the need for repeatable patterns of intellectual behavior while holding those who maintain Enlightenment ideals to a standard that only they need meet.

And this is because the progressive paradigm allows — and promotes — the idea that ends justify the means; that consistency policed is a product of tyrannical rationalism and Enlightenment constraint; that “pragmatism” — which un-moors actions from the fetters of “purist” principles — is itself a guiding principle of anti-foundationalism, wherein achieving what one wishes to achieve is the primary concern, with the “reasoning” behind it a secondary and in many ways illegitimate distraction.

Paula Deen is to be demonized because she is a southern white whose politics aren’t widely known and certainly not influential on a national scale; she hasn’t cultivated the political cover needed to counter  the desire of racist and opportunistic “civil rights” leaders to tear her down.  And this despite what I’m certain is a history of employing blacks and producing jobs and giving to charities, etc.   None of which matters when the goal is to keep us divided, and to promote that divide based largely on caricatures and manufactured perception.

Baldwin, on the other hand, has publicly adopted — and maintained — all the correct political status markers, and has supported, generally, all the “correct” causes and positions.  Therefore, Baldwin is useful and Baldwin is good; Deen is not. And so tearing down Deen becomes yet another of the status markers for liberals and their racialist politics, while propping up and defending Baldwin or, eg., Bill Clinton, is a pragmatic concession to the cause long-term.

It is evident that in exchange for political support, the personal trespasses of those who are by way of political affiliation deemed “good” will be forgiven.  It is a sacrifice GLAAD or NOW is willing to make for the Greater Good, and the Greater Good comes by way of a political movement that operates by collecting and marshaling the power of interest groups to form election blocs that propel to power people who agree to support their agendas.  Quid pro quo.

It is cynical.  It is despicable.  And it is decidedly anti-individual.  But refraining from punishing those in “their” political corner is the sacrifice these interest groups are willing to make if it protects their long term interests.  And besides, they are able to tell themselves that people like Alec Baldwin, however homophobic he may sound on Twitter, nonetheless will support the broader cause.

So long as it doesn’t really impact him in any personal way, evidently.

And so he made a mistake, whereas Paula Deen is just a fucking racist.

That’s the dynamic of a PC society with a privileged ideology controlling the rules of the game.

There are ways to change the rules, but those kinds of things are “fundamentally unserious.”  So I guess what we can do instead is make sure that Chris Christie gets elected.  Then all will be well with the world.

Posted by Jeff G. @ 11:46am
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Comments (84)

  1. Deen’s use is in the example that’s just been made of her, so she’s got that going, I guess you could say…

  2. Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, whomever the next last best only hope to beat Hillary Clinton turns out to be, you can be sure that the professional Republican campaign consultants will see to it that he never ever says anything embarrassingly controversial. Just like Mitt Romney, John McCain, and Bob Dole.

  3. The sad thing is, the vast majority of those with a progressive mindset do not see the philosophical inconsistancy with their positions. Thus, the difference between not closing Gitmo in 2004 and 2012 is that Dear Leader is good and wise. Of course, there are those who admit that their posturings are only about obtaining and retaining power at all costs, truth be damned. At least I can respect their honesty. It is the stupid ones I cannot abide, because they are ones who will destroy the republic through their ignorance.

  4. Racism begins south of the Mason-Dixon Line, cracker.

  5. here is one of Paula’s deviled egg recipes for to enhance your fourth of july celebratings

    i want to add a little sriracha but since these are mostly for company I’m just gonna do em up Paula style

  6. I made a blueberry pie with the top crust made of different sized stars for the fourth.

  7. do you serve blueberry pie hot or cold or room temp?

    I would guess room temp with a lil ice cream

  8. Mr. Alec Baldwin got mad at a douchebag propaganda slut and expressed himself inartfully

    Paula basically got lynched by a bunch of rabidly fascist whores at the Food Network and at Walmart and at some trashy off-brand casinos for a whole lot of nothing.

    Neither of them should be in any particular trouble I don’t think.

    But what they done on Paula speaks very very poorly of the neo-american character.

    But we already knew americans of the sort Paula Deen had her deals with had become godawful petty and shitty people.

  9. I particularly liked Alec’s explanation of his use of the word “queen”…

    “the idea of me calling this guy a ‘queen’ and that being something that people thought is homophobic … a queen to me has a different meaning. It’s somebody who’s just above. It doesn’t have any necessarily sexual connotations. To me a queen … I know women that act queeny, I know men that are straight that act queeny, and I know gay men that act queeny. It doesn’t have to be a definite sexual connotation, or a homophobic connotation. To me those are people who think the rules don’t apply to them.”

    To me, this sounds like the same thinking the late Klansman Sen. Robert Byrd used when he said, “There are white niggers.”

  10. The point is that Mr. Alec Baldwin doesn’t have to express himself artfully because he’s been immunized or catechized or saved by (cheap) grace alone.

    At least until such a time as he isn’t anymore.

    Paula Deen, however, speaks with a scarlet accent, so it was only a matter of time before the puritans of political correctness found the evidence they were looking for and burned the witch.

  11. Did Mr. Alec Baldwin just cop to being a “queen?”

  12. So I’m sitting in Village Inn just this very morning and there’s a sign on the wall about how just about anything can be made better with butter (or something), and the quote is from “Celebrity chef Paula Deen.”

    Here’s hoping they don’t take it down EVER.

  13. Although, Ernst, Alec’s approval of the “[X] to me has a different meaning” formula has some comedic potential.

    Q: So, Mr. Darth, you’ve come under fire for tweeting that Alec Baldwin is a cum-snarfing nancy boy. Care to explain yourself?

    A: This idea that I’m being homophobic… to me, “cum-snarfing nancy boy” has a different meaning. It’s somebody who’s a reasonably good actor but spends most of his time selling financial products. Like that cum-snarfing nancy boy Sam Waterson.

  14. okay I got a good laugh out of that. Does a reverse mortgage count as a financial product? If so, I can think of a number of aged cum-snarfing nancy boys.

  15. On a serious note, Baldwin’s “queen” means an arrogant, haughty entitled, privileged person to me gambit illustrates where a certain resident of Los Angeles remotely connected to the legal system failed to understand Jeff’s argument about intentionalism.

    As I recall, that L.A. resident would insist that for Jeff to be consistent, Jeff would have to accept that Alec Baldwin means “privileged princess” when he says “queen;” because that’s what Baldwin says he means, and if Jeff didn’t take Baldwin at his word, that meant Jeff was a fraud and a sham and a hypocrite.

    And maybe a kike, too.

  16. And maybe a kike, too.

    You forgot “money-grubbing.”

  17. Wouldn’t that have been redundant?

  18. exactly darthlevin. I had an uncle who used a similar excuse for his use of “the n word”. First thing I thought of when I heard Baldwin’s explanation.

    Does Alec call any women ” pricks” .

  19. Does Alec call any women ” pricks” .

    - Might actually be accurate if you were referring to Amanda or that gaggle of feminazi misfits in Texas.

    - The coup begins.

  20. The Obama administration and the United Nations have encouraged Morsi to listen to his people. President Barack Obama called Morsi on Monday and said the United States is committed to democracy and does not support any single person or group.

    - Typical Bumblefuck lead from behind statement. What you say when your bitch is losing.

  21. - The Wan is making Carter look like a Visagoth.

  22. - So now we know the obvious truth, even worse than we imagined. The Marxo-Socialists are not only fucking collectivists and statists, as well as social fascists, but they are dyed in the wool wimps as well.

  23. Pussified fascists aren’t going to get a seat at the grown-ups table, BBH.

  24. after all, all one need do, on the left, to immunize oneself from the consequences of his or her personal hatreds, no matter how ugly they are upon reveal, is agree to join in with a political movement whose broad-based strategy is to adopt political “support” for a number of interest groups, whom in many cases they presume to speak for, thus becoming part of a collective whose general “goodness” prevents their specific actions from ever being anything more than mere missteps.

    The “feminist” agenda is demonstrably not about making things better for all women; the “gay” agenda is demonstrably not about making things better for all gay people; the “civil rights” agenda is demonstrably not about making things better for black people.

    It’s all about tearing out the soul of a thriving, prosperous and peaceable civilization and remaking it into the utopia of the New Soviet Man, American-style.

    “Gender” roles and centuries-old traditional institutions all must die before the Party can manufacture their replacements and command the livestock to live with them; if anyone remembers why the old ways worked, they will reject the new arttificial ones, so any judgment rendered by older generations has to be delegitimized first through a Cult of Youth.

    Then it was easy to convince the younger generation to reject as oppressive the millennia of hard-won lessons on which the existing institutions were built. And like the Taliban demolishing carvings in the desert, the knowledge of history became dust on the wind.

  25. - We always kind of figured Ayers as a fascist pussy, since only a fascist pussy would bomb innocents from the shadows.

    - Justice will be served when he’s guilty as sin, free as a bird, and dead as a doornail.

  26. The Marxo-Socialists are not only fucking collectivists and statists, as well as social fascists, but they are dyed in the wool wimps as well.

    They’re not wimps; they’re bullies. It’s simple risk aversion. They’ll mercilessly grind you into the dirt as long as they think they can get away with it. But if they think you’ll fight back, they show you all kinds of respect.

    As Insty has asked so often: Do they understand the likely consequences of the incentive structure they’ve set up?

  27. Actually I believe Deen voted for and was vocal on her show for Obama. So………

    That Baldwin denial of his use of the word “queen” reminds of that state senator who tweeted “Uncle Thomas” in reference to Clarence Thomas and then sputtered that he had no idea “uncle” meant anything derogatory. (sorry can’t recall st. senator/rep at the moment).

  28. Yes, Deen voted for Obama, but she isn’t really a part of the progressive Hollywood power elite. Just a dupe.

    Like Zimmerman, in fact.

  29. She was, angstlee. One of her shows was devoted to visiting Jimmuh Carter’s presidential library and cooking for him. She was positively star-struck.

    Paula is a nice lady, but not the sharpest tool in the shed.

  30. Baldwin’s a dupe in waiting. He just doesn’t know it yet.

  31. Do they understand the likely consequences of the incentive structure they’ve set up?

    - They’ll have lots of time to think about it when the free pie runs out, which it is in the process of doing even as we speak. The next three years of Bumblefucks audatious rein should be “interesting times” for the Progressives. The biggest irony of all is that when the angry disillusioned mob turns on the Libturds, we’ll probably be forced to save them from being lynched in public.

  32. - Jeff, how could the Left possibly have any respect for the sort of useful idiots that actually fall for their total agitprop bullshit?

  33. Baldwin is an angry guy, but most of the time it’s useful because it’s directed at the “right” targets. They’ll give him a pass not only because he’s supported GLAAD in the past, but he can be counted on to lash out at Republicans, the Tea Party, Breitbart (still), etc. in the future via twitter, HuffPost, whatever.
    He’s a thug, but he’s their thug, so it’s all good.

  34. If anyone here has never in their life said n1gger ( 1 added because search engines ) raise your hands. Hell, I was raised by a black man, got my first job from another, and I’ve used it multiple times.

    Paula was railroaded by the MFM. I don’t see what we can do about it except buy her products and write the food channel and qvc(?) threatening to boycott.

  35. Oh. Happy, warm with vanilla ice cream all-a-melty…heaven.

  36. And maybe cancel your Capital One bankcards and demand your local sydicator stop airing reruns of Thirty Rock Blitz.

  37. when the angry disillusioned mob turns on the Libturds, we’ll probably be forced to save them from being lynched in public

    Yeah, I’ll get right on that just as soon as this rerun of a Celebrity Bowling Tournament from 1974 is over.

    Gotta have priorities.

  38. Capital one? is for shit. I will try the 30 Rock thing though.

  39. Dave, I’ll be in the back, shaking my head and wailing. When I get home? Laugh an laugh and laugh….

  40. Blitz, I intend to face the unfortunate urchins and do the best Clinton/Obama finger wagging performance I can muster.

  41. that sounds really good Mr. Blitz like cobbler

    my friend T’s granny used to make a scary good blueberry cobbler but she got old and mean and everyone hates her now and I do not think I shall taste her cobbler again in this life

    this makes me feel a wistful sadness deep down

  42. Happy, Warm fruit pie of ANY kind and vanilla ice cream. It isn’t a cobbler, but just wow.

  43. “If anyone here has never in their life said n1gger ( 1 added because search engines ) raise your hands. Hell, I was raised by a black man, got my first job from another, and I’ve used it multiple times. ”

    I’ve never called anyone a nigger to their face, discussed anyone as being a nigger, nor do I think much of the term beyond it being fighting words or at least a word aimed at hurting, bothering, or harassing someone in modern common usage. Some people seem to using to shock more than to hurt or to shit test people to see how they react.

    I have used it in jokes, though usually the jokes were about the sort of person who would or wouldn’t say “nigger” often than black people.

    For instance Ming the Merciless shouting “SHUT UP NIGGER!” might be momentarily funny since it is Sci-fi and a yellow menace character and you just don’t see it very often so you don’t expect it. Not that it is great humor in the first place.

    In my parent’s time it was used descriptively and often without any real malice though in declining use and it was well understood to have sensitivity attached to it. And I think it was still sort of unfriendly and detached and ‘superior of outsiders’ if not malicious.

    Then again I strongly doubt that ‘black men’ have an average IQ of 85 too though I have no good reason for doing so since I don’t administer IQ tests or really know much about IQ or what it really represents.

    Of course I wasn’t raised with much in the way of ethnic stereotypes. I got most of them from TV and from people in those ethic groups sort of testing the waters on whether I subscribed to various stereotypes.

    We did call the kids of our german speaking Czech neighbors bo-hunks (many were Wendish) and they called us krauts right back. We implied that they were lazy guitar strumming, frizzy haired, greasy faced, wire frame glasses wearing, bean-pole hippies who were late for their coffee house set. They implied in turn that we were short, stocky, shrieking, autocratic, OCD, child abusing lunatics who did not know how to speak softly and ate too much ham.

    And we were both totally kidding about it (for the most part).

  44. Granny needs love, not scorn. There is no try, just DO.

  45. Some cobblers do begin as failed pies.

  46. “Then again I strongly doubt that ‘black men’ have an average IQ of 85 too ”

    I put ‘black men’ in half quotes because I have seen some pale and straight haired people tell me that they are black and I’m not sure that beyond being a very vague and quick description “black” means much of anything. (And yeah I feel the same way about white and asian and hispanic and other sloppy race terms. We hybridize far too easily and often for those words to really mean much.)

  47. Ok Paleo. Fact is, you HAVE used the word. It really means nothing to us older folks,which was my point.

    “Then again I strongly doubt that ‘black men’ have an average IQ of 85″

    I have more doubt about that than you could understand. Raised by, worked with and would die for those people. My own is around in the 130s and I can tell you straight out…Uncle Lee was one of the most intelligent people I’ve ever met.

    As far as the word goes? WHO CARES??? It’s a friggin’ word. I don’t care, nor should anyone with half a mind.

  48. In fact we hybridize so well that it’s probably NOT an example of hybridization. We are one species and I have no doubt that most of our problems and differences regarding appearance are cultural in origin. If you are used to something then it is not weird. The concept of race is something that I think we are used to, but if we were introduced to it as an outsider it would seem very weird and wrong on its face.

  49. Paleo…American, Chinese, Russian, etc. There is NO hyphonezation in my mind.

  50. GOD I just messed that word up

  51. The rules of race and who belongs to which one and why just don’t make much sense.

  52. Jeff says there are no races. I disagree. There are RACES to see which color/religion ( effin muzzies) or special ( I can’t think of the word here, help? ) Like all different types of Spanish/Portuguese speaking people…

    American, or Bye Bye.

  53. I’d go so far as to say that it’s not a subject worth teaching.

  54. OOPS. After help up there should be “will come to the top”

  55. It’s NOT Paleo, but it maakes for big bucks in our alleged “institutions of Higher Learning “

  56. As a rule I scorn insults that come prepackaged and mass-produced. I think if the idea is to hurt somebody’s feelings the least I can do is put some mental effort into it.

    Then again, there are those who would be complimented by being the target of a homemade, handcrafted insult, so something off-the-shelf is good enough for them.

  57. You should be aware of how members of other cultures and subcultures view you. It might even be a matter of life and death. But trying to tie appearance to genetic categories that themselves don’t tell you very much about anything…it gets stupid really fast. When you try to put collective historical responsibility out there it graduates to bat-shit insanity and becomes a vector for discrimination and exploitation.

  58. I don’t have any reason to see Paula Dean as a monster. I don’t have any reason to see Louis Farrakhan as a good man. In both cases this is independent of their racial identity. It’s a simple case of “By their fruits shall ye know them”. One is a silly lady who does comedically over-stuffed recipes. The other is trying to run a fear cult that has a history of violence. Both are trying to make a lot of money. I think Paula is the nicer of the two overall.

  59. Mcgehee, explain?

    Paleo. I am stupid, but I’m really fast and not too worried. Bat shit insanity is something I’ve dealt with.

    Both of you? I have NO clue what you’re talking about? just wanted to reply.

  60. “don’t have any reason to see Paula Dean as a monster. I don’t have any reason to see Louis Farrakhan as a good man. In both cases this is independent of their racial identity. It’s a simple case of “By their fruits shall ye know them”

    Thank you Paleo. now I get it. Sometimes? a sledgehammer is a good teaching tool.

  61. I see Alec Baldwin as a smarmy asshole who thinks he looks like a tough guy. I liked him in ‘the Hunt for Red October’ and that’s about it. I would have generally disliked him even if he wasn’t throwing around the sort of homophobic slurs that other people get condemned and fired for. I would think less of Capital One for having him as a spokesperson but then ALL of their commercials are shitty with the goths, ghosts, the little girl who stymies Jimmy Fallon about 50% more cashback, or whatever else they do.

  62. I assume that the ‘high interest rates and fees’ raiders are Goths because one of them was called Alaric. That might not be the case though. They might have an Attila or a Barbarosa in there eventually.

  63. Mcgehee, explain?

    Mostly meant as a response to the question about whether one has ever called someone n1gger. If I ever did it was almost certainly before my balls dropped.

    And the last part was in case a hepatic hamster chimed in; I could simply say, “Shut up, fool” as a sort of punchline.

    Imagine how much fun I could be if I tried entertaining other people.

  64. Besides, with my personal background and temperament if I didn’t force myself to put effort into choosing just the right insult for somebody, I’d be dropping f-bombs and God knows what else every third word. Sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the bad (words).

  65. I generally try not to be shitty towards (or about) people I don’t know in real life.

    That’s what the internet is for after all. Well beside video games, porn, hulu, netflix, blogging, and tweeting about how you were going to make a sandwich but discovered that you’re out of cheese.

  66. As far as the word goes? WHO CARES??? It’s a friggin’ word. I don’t care, nor should anyone with half a mind.

    Thank you. Six letters. Two syllables. It’s not a magic spell. It’s not a talisman. It’s not that voodoo that you do. It’s just a word. And it’s a word that’s spoken millions of times a day. Let’s all just settle down already.

  67. blazing saddles!

  68. If anyone here has never in their life said n1gger ( 1 added because search engines ) raise your hands.

    Uh… *raises hand*

    I’ve heard of it growing up, but I never really ran into it outside of some fictional works nor saw reason to use the word. I was born in 1970 and grew up mostly in the midwest so maybe times had altered a bit and it wasn’t quite as common as it was earlier.

    Let’s just say I have reasons to suspect the “critical race theory” and “white privilege” crap is just that: crap.

    You do mean using it to describe black people or insult someone, right? I don’t remember if I ever had to read aloud passages from Huckleberry Finn or similar so I think I can claim it. I do laugh at scenes from Blazing Saddles so maybe that makes me sinful in the racialist’s eyes.

    Maybe I read too much science fiction and picked up too many alien epithets. Or maybe “jackass” and similar was sufficient for my needs.

  69. One hopes Paula is smart enough to tell her publisher to take the galley proofs, fold into corners, and stick it.

    And then publish the thing indie. More money for her and no one else can say shit.

  70. Are we to count the thousands of times one sings along to rap lyrics when we count saying “nigger”? Or decides to freestyle? Are we counting ironic usage?

    On the one hand we’d have about 0. On the other? You’ll have to take that up with Eazy-E. And it’s more like -gga or -ggah.

  71. Along those lines, I’m in the same boat as Patrick C. I’ve not heard “nigger” as in “those damn niggers” in my whole life.

    Not once.

  72. People sing along to rap? Do they also dance along to 34-car pileups?

  73. tommy gonna trick his truck jack it up big time

  74. Everyday, McG.

  75. A significant minority of people my age can repeat both Fear of a Black Planet and Straight Outta Compton line after line. Even doing it today would be more like a 20 year high school reunion rather than a weird racial thing.

  76. back in the day potts farm was the place to go

  77. we be in the “marriage” and “nigger” wars for those keeping score on language!

  78. i luvs the “nickels” happy beat – for the silver!!11!!

  79. “the niggers happy feet”

  80. ” It commands an incomparably more precise, logically structured, generally comprehensible and, in essence, extremely flexible ideology that, in its elaborateness and completeness, is almost a secularized religion. It offers a ready answer to any question whatsoever; it can scarcely be accepted only in part, and accepting it has profound implications for human life. In an era when metaphysical and existential certainties are in a state of crisis, when people are being uprooted and alienated and are losing their sense of what this world means, this ideology inevitably has a certain hypnotic charm. . . .

    {3}The profound difference between our system-in terms of the nature of power-and what we traditionally understand by dictatorship, a difference I hope is clear even from this quite superficial comparison, has caused me to search for some term appropriate for our system, purely for the purposes of this essay. If I refer to it henceforth as a “post-totalitarian” system, I am fully aware that this is perhaps not the most precise term, but I am unable to think of a better one. I do not wish to imply by the prefix “post” that the system is no longer totalitarian; on the contrary, I mean that it is totalitarian in a way fundamentally different from classical dictatorships, different from totalitarianism as we usually understand it. ”

    link

  81. Bring your nickels, tap your feet.

  82. You’ll have to take that up with Eazy-E.

    That could prove to be challenging, bh.

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