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July 31, 2005
Something tells me…
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Comment by quiggs on 7/31 @ 3:56 pm #
Re Bart: His outburst was posted at 4:13 a.m. I think we can all picture the scene . . .
Re Pandagon: What relly pisses me off about the “root causes” meme is that the liberals claim the right to dictate to you what those “root causes” actually are (no points for guessing “America”). Why don’t we ask an actual suicide bomber what they are? Sorry, can’t, he blew himself up. What if we caught one before he blew himself up? Sorry, that would require racial profiling—not allowed. What if we caught one alive and in pari delicto without profiling? Sorry, asking him about root causes would require “abusive” interrogation—not allowed. So, you’ll just have to accept our word for it.
Then we finally get one who actually *tells* us what his root causes are—Tanweer, Gitmo—and the left goes into a batshit frenzy of denial.
Feh. Bluetards.
Comment by Daniel on 7/31 @ 3:58 pm #
Love it….
Comment by Diana on 7/31 @ 4:37 pm #
Yeah …. but yours is MUCH bigger!
Comment by Doug F on 7/31 @ 4:44 pm #
Great parody sites. Thanks, Jeff!
Comment by Russ from Winterset on 7/31 @ 5:01 pm #
Hey everyone, since all the commentators here share the same two brain cells with Jeff, I’d like to know if it’s alright with all of you if I use both of them a week from Tuesday from 8-11 am (CST)? I’ve got a big meeting that morning, and I need all the mental power I can get.
Comment by Nathan on 7/31 @ 5:48 pm #
5th Tier? Isn’t that like the pot calling the bone-china black?
Comment by Alien Grey on 7/31 @ 6:02 pm #
Jeff
Any Publicity is great. Especially when your critics don’t have a clue.
Russ
Nice of you to admit you have no brian cells.
Comment by gail on 7/31 @ 6:30 pm #
I used to laugh at this sort of thing, but I’ve gotten to the point where it makes me physically sick. I just avoid sites like those, and if people use that kind of aggressively ignorant language on my blog I ban them.
Comment by Matt Moore on 7/31 @ 6:37 pm #
What’s with the anti-Christian talk at Pandagon? I guess their Jew detector needs calibration again, but you’d think they’d at least realize that you’re a RINO with no cred in the Christhumping side of the blogosphere.
Comment by Beto Ochoa on 7/31 @ 6:53 pm #
I really like fried rice. I’ll bet neither of those guys know how to make a 4AM steaming pile o’ killer rice. You know really because “It’s all about the children”. It takes a village to fry the best rice and children. Those two came from a bad village for sure. How are you gonna’ hate queers, coloreds and liberals without fried rice and how are you gonna’ fight terrorism blindly and counterproductively without turning your children into queer haters?
Comment by Diana on 7/31 @ 7:26 pm #
Oh, man! That testimonial is a treasure!
… but … but .. he didn’t mention your penis.
Comment by d2ana, a liberal, but a fan. on 7/31 @ 7:41 pm #
Wait, what?
Bart:
I’ve seen you post lovely lovey things about your child, your anniversary. ?? And I’m only a casual reader. Where did he get THAT idea? Just gross generalization directed at you?
Bart again:
What? Where did he get that info? I only know what I see about you on your “about” clickything. Sort of wish you’d post a more thorough resume’ or “about me” page. Is there one I’m not seeing?
Comment by Patterico on 7/31 @ 7:57 pm #
“that asshole Goldstein”
That’s the testimonial right there.
Comment by Shawn on 7/31 @ 7:57 pm #
My theory is that some folks want attention, no matter what it takes to get it. Facts become unimportant when all you seek is to leech some traffic.
sw: This would be an interesting “subject” for sociological observation.
Comment by Jeff Goldstein on 7/31 @ 7:58 pm #
“Just gross generalization directed at you?”
Bart showed up at my site, likely for the first time, and immediately made a host of assumptions about me—assumptions based on his cartoon idea of conservatives.
If you look at the exchange, you’ll see I keep trying to get him to address the post, but all he wants to do is increase the level of vitriol in his attacks. Then he assumes injured outrage—which culminates in the post I linked to. In which, hardly surprisingly, he declares his preconceptions validated and pats himself on the back for speaking truth to power.
It’s frighteningly delusional.
I don’t know where he gets the “failed teacher” thing—or any of the other faux “specifics” he cites, for that matter—though if I had to guess, I’d go with advanced syphillis.
Comment by Russ from Winterset on 7/31 @ 8:00 pm #
Alien Gray – go back and read the comments section on the second post Jeff referenced, and my obscure inside joke will make sense.
Comment by Beck on 7/31 @ 9:43 pm #
Cocaine’s a hell of a drug.
Comment by TerryH on 7/31 @ 10:30 pm #
Dang.
Maybe you can get some business cards printed up
Jeff Goldstein
Angry middle aged white guy
5’th tier blogger
hates the cool kids
Comment by TallDave on 8/1 @ 12:23 am #
Hehe, that was a classic Beck. I remember that line.
Very apropos and obscure. I applaud you.
Comment by Jeff Goldstein on 8/1 @ 12:24 am #
I’M RICK JAMES, BITCH!
Comment by Fred on 8/1 @ 12:32 am #
You got odd hobbies, Jeff, when one of them involves marinating in left wing blog sewage.
The Bart thing was classic left wing high octane hypocrisy in real time. Loved it!
Comment by Stoom on 8/1 @ 1:01 am #
If he’s anything like his distant cousing Hazel, he’ll eventually succumb to his fundamentalist past and blind him(his?)self with lye.
Then again, maybe he’s just an asshole.
Comment by jrc on 8/1 @ 2:52 am #
See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, I mean what am I gonna do, just all of a sudden just jump up and grind my feet on somebody’s couch like it’s something to do? Come on, I have a little more sense than that. [He pauses.] Yeah, I remember grinding my feet on Eddie’s couch.
Comment by Karl on 8/1 @ 3:14 am #
Though I understand why you wanted to make it crystal that you weren’t blaming the Left’s hyping of Gitmo for the bombings, I might have put it a little differently. I would have said what you did, but then added:
“However, for the purposes of this discussion, it should mean exactly what you barking moonbats think it means. You don’t like people claiming you lied and that people died? Why not? It’s your friggin’ mantra, you maroons! And just as much a lie when you chant it! If grasping that concept makes your head explode, perhaps you should flap back to your dingy little caves. For people who like to throw the chickenhawk charge around, some of you are clearly incapable of engaging in even rhetorical warfare, which is why you are currently on the ragged fringe of a minority party. Perhaps you might make more political progress if you devoted yourselves to things more important than alleged 5th tier bloggers. Obviously some of you are wearing all that tinfoil as protection for skin with a thickness only measurable by an electron microscope.”
Comment by Silk on 8/1 @ 11:17 am #
This is his own words describing himself from his facebook entry.
It’s actually much more likely sweetheart.
Comment by Ed Minchau on 8/1 @ 11:21 am #
Geez, I wonder how much traffic those two sites got from that link… maybe I ought to make a nasty post about Jeff, too, to drive traffic to my site.
I can see it now: “Jeff Goldstein has a greased armadillo love-slave…”
Comment by CoralHead on 8/1 @ 11:56 am #
God I love the smell of napalm in the morning! And Jeff you are a burning ring of fire!
Comment by Phinn on 8/1 @ 1:02 pm #
i’d like to think that i’m a fascinating bundle of interesting contradictions and arcane knowledge.
What do you want to bet that the “interesting contradictions” consists of liking both the original Star Trek and The Next Generation, and his “arcane knowledge” consists of such things as the names of all the replicants in Blade Runner?
Comment by Moe Lane on 8/1 @ 1:14 pm #
Waitasecond. I’m a 5th tier blogger. I blog about role-playing games, for crying out loud; it doesn’t get much lamer than that. Jeff’s got to be at least 3rd tier.
Just saying, that’s all.
Moe
PS: And is there something wrong with being a 5th tier blogger?
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/1 @ 1:54 pm #
Wow, Stoom, I absolutely swear I had not read what you wrote about Hazel when I referenced him in my comment at the post above this one. This blog is weird. And so are the sentient turing words, too. I feel I’m being sucked into some kind of matrix.
Comment by Jeff Goldstein on 8/1 @ 2:47 pm #
“God I love the smell of napalm in the morning! And Jeff you are a burning ring of fire!”
You have me confused with some innocent little Vietnamese villager in an Oliver Stone movie, CoralHead. For my part, such attacks merely leave me with a healthy tan.
Incidentally, I did an honor’s thesis on Flannery O’Connor way back when, so old Hazel was the first thing to pop into my mind, too.
Comment by Ellie Dee on 8/1 @ 5:07 pm #
Who are the people attacking you anyway? Before this post I’d never even heard of them. And given the low quality of their writing, I’m happy to say I’ll never waste my time on them again.
Comment by MC on 8/1 @ 5:08 pm #
Alternate title for this post: How to tell you are doing great work…
Comment by Bart Motes on 8/1 @ 7:10 pm #
I’m honored, really.
Karl was kind enough to rephrase Jeff’s screed. Karl, I wonder why you think that it is appropriate to toss the Bush lies, soldiers die meme back at me? Do you assert that Durbin is a high ranking official in Al-Qaeda? That would be the only way that there would be any workable analogy. Just a thought.
Diana, yes, I did not make any observations about Jeff’s penis. That is because I did not bring it up nor do I have interest in peni or the masturbation habits of my political bete noires. I continue to think that Mr. Goldstein’s preoccupation on that score is bizarre and indictative of some pyschological problems.
Fred, I’m not certain how I engaged in any hypocrisy whatsoever. Please explain. Thanks.
Silk, maybe, maybe.
Nathan, I am certainly on a lower rung than Mr. Goldstein in the blogoverse. I also don’t have my whole life wrapped up in it.
Gail, I am sorry that commentaries like mine, presumably, make you sick. What should make you sick is the ungoing carnage in Iraq, which has made our country much less safe.
Phinn, I am not a Star Trek fan, and my arcane knowledge is more related to Chinese stuff–language, history, and culture. As I observe in my first or second post on my blog, that is all that I bring to the table. I am also something of an expert on eminent domain now. I will be happy to answer any questions on those topics, but the intricacies of Captain Picard’s pyschology will have to be answered by others.
To you all: I admire your loyalty to Mr. Goldstein, and perhaps I should reassess his charms. However, your attacks on my character and so on are very foolish. Mr. Goldstein unfairly slandered many patriotic Americans with his post and it was wrong. I called him out on it and he responded very aggressively, and in his fixation on my LOVE of Joe Wilson, rather bizarrely. Things deteriorated from there. That’s the real story. I hope this helps.
Comment by Jeff Goldstein on 8/1 @ 7:23 pm #
Those of you who interested in the non-airbrushed history of events —the one that includes Bart’s entry into the debate announced by a pair of ad hominems, a reprisal of the chickenhawk meme, and a refusal to address the substance of the post, preferring instead to claim I “slandered” people by dint of offering criticisms for specific actions I find objectionable and, worse, deleterious to fighting Islamist extremism—follow the links. Our complete exchange is here.
Comment by Bart Motes on 8/1 @ 7:25 pm #
Jeff, you seem determined to keep this feud alive, but by all means, I think everyone should see the complete record. I don’t think it does you many compliments, however.
Comment by Jeff Goldstein on 8/1 @ 7:40 pm #
Of course you don’t, Bart. Because you can’t see beyond your own sense of righteousness.
And there is no feud. Remember, I answered all your comments, then, when the back and forth was done, I removed the juvenile exchange, leaving behind a link for those who wanted to see it as part of the history of that thread. That should have ended it.
Instead, you decided to pen a long attack on me and post it on your site—a post I didn’t until several days later. When I did, I took your words, added them to my testimonials, and gave you a link. I figured you wanted the thing read, right? And I thought it was kinda funny.
Listen: you can insist that you were in the right and I’m some evil, rigid rightwing stereotype—a characterization that regular readers are already chuckling over. Or else you can simply concede that it was in bad form to enter into a debate with someone you don’t know by accusing him of “moral infantilism,” and then making cartoon generalizations such as “You and your ilk are hypocritical, small-minded cowards, anxious to start wars and anxious not to fight in them” without having bothered either to read through the thread.
For my part, I’ll concede that accusing you of masturbating to the mental image of your own rock hard nobility was perhaps too…er, vivid, an image.
Comment by docob on 8/1 @ 8:06 pm #
Better watch out, Jeff. This guy has the mind of Ward Churchill in the martial-arts-trained body of Billy Jack. Dude, you may be tangling with Chutch himself!
Comment by RS on 8/1 @ 10:50 pm #
PICARD/KIRK-PHOBE!
Although, I gotta give props to Janeway…
Comment by Jack M. on 8/1 @ 11:15 pm #
Jeff,
Why are you wasting time debating with someone who is so deluded that he describes a bland and vanilla blogger like Instapundit as a “fascist”?
Unless this exchange is serving to create a “Billy Jack”/”Ward Churchill” spoof with Bart’s name all over it, it hardly seems worth the attention.
Comment by george on 11/4 @ 5:12 pm #
hey man