April 26, 2013

US Army “unintentionally” blocks Baptist website at military bases [Darleen Click]

Trying to access the SBC.net site produces warning flag that the site is blocked due to hostile content

The Southern Baptist Convention is the nation’s largest Protestant denomination known for its support of the pro-life movement and its strong belief in traditional marriage.

Southern Baptist chaplains reported that SBC.net had been blocked at military installations around the nation. An Air Force officer told Fox News that when he tried to log on to the website he received a message that his Internet usage was being logged and monitored for trying to access a blocked site.

The censorship was made public after an Army officer tried to log onto the denomination’s website and instead — received a warning message.

“The site you have requested has been blocked by Team CONUS (C-TNOSC/RCERT-CONUS) due to hostile content,” the message read.

Team CONUS protects the computer network of the Dept. of Defense. The SBC’s website was not blocked at the Pentagon. […]

“The Department of Defense is not intentionally blocking access to this site, said Lt. Col. Damien Pickart. “We are working diligently to investigate what might be causing access issues for some of our service members and to correct the situation as quickly as possible.” […]

Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, told Fox News that Southern Baptist chaplains on military bases around the nation have been unable to access the website.

“It’s a concern for the Dept. of Defense to block the website of one of the major evangelical denominations in the country,” Crews told Fox News. “The Southern Baptist Convention has the largest number of chaplains in the military representing Southern Baptist soldiers and churches. Those chaplains need access to their denomination’s website.”

We gotta be careful of those Bezerker Baptists. Why, their reputation for shooting/bombing/maiming is known worldwide!

Maybe the Army’s disavowal of the Belief in God is “extremist” lecture was just a tad premature?

Heh.

Posted by Darleen @ 10:26am
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  1. At the rate this country is going, it won’t be long before it’s considered insensitive to and intolerant of other religious/cultural traditions to not actively participate in your own islamic terrorist videotaped beheading.

  2. Islam is the official state religion of most formerly western nations.

  3. omg oppression

  4. Not intentional, my ass. What are the odds that Inspire, the slick-looking, but amateurish online Jihadi magazine created by the late and unlamented Samir “Proud to be a Traitor” Khan, is not blocked? That’s the website that published the “pressure cooker bomb” manual, FWIW.

  5. Hostile Baptists? The hostilities are usually resolved when Brother Larry packs up with a few of his like-minded members and starts a splinter group.

  6. omg oppression

    Replace “Southern Baptist Convention website” with “cupcakes” and see if that changes your worldview.

  7. Hey, did ya see that California has awarded the contract for the “High-Speed Rail” money pit to Sen. Feinstein’s hubby?

    Coincidence, I’m sure.

  8. Late to the party, mojo. That was touched on a few days ago.

  9. blocking softwares are capricious and weird but there’s always a little link for you to click to report sites what are accidentally being blocked

    you have to click it and say hey this site is being blocked on accident and then sooner or later someone fixes it in the meantime if you really need to see the site you can use your cell phone

    or just find me here and I will explain other coping mechanisms you can use for to get through this sort of trying and difficult episode

  10. “So the Southern Baptist Convention is now considered hostile to the U.S. Army,” the officer wrote in an email to the American Family Association.

    it’s alarming that we have officers in the army what are this retarded

  11. It’s alarming that we don’t trust adult soldiers with unfettered access to the Internet.

  12. We can’t do that, Spies. They might surf pr0n.

  13. Nah, that would never happen. :-)

    Seriously, what’s wrong with just saying “If you get caught surfing porn on Army time and/or with Army equipment and bandwidth, it’s your ass”, then following through on that?

  14. mojo,

    Hey, did ya see that California has awarded the contract for the “High-Speed Rail” money pit to Sen. Feinstein’s hubby?

    We here in Cali assumed Richard Blum would be in charge of that boondoggle. Hell, I thought it was in the ballot proposition…

  15. I worked as an intern at a national lab for a few summers. They did not block any sites, but if you surfed pron you got a stern warning and you could be fired for it if you didn’t stop.

    That policy seemed to work just fine.

  16. @SpinyNorman: I guess they’re not anticipating there being another election before the whole shit-house burns down (in Jimmy Morrison’s pithy phrasing), so now they’re just outright looting. Not even trying to hide it.

  17. i think mostly they’re concerned with sites what may have malicious code and such

  18. i think mostly they’re concerned with sites what may have malicious code and such

    They’re also concerned with Their People using Their Equipment to access subversive or h8y materials.

    Dennis Prager is right: when SSM is legalized in most places, everyone who isn’t on board with SSM (states, companies, institutions, churches, individuals) will be regarded as being as loathsome as the KKK.

    Only this time, it will be the “enlightened” people persecuting the “Klan” and not the other way around, because the Left specializes in inverting everything it can find.

    Explicit exceptions will be made for Muslims, though. They will be able to gay-bash with impunity, plus they will be allowed to join in on basing the “homophobes,” as well.

    ‘cuz that’s how they roll.

  19. i love the gay marriage so much it’s great to know that other people what also the love gay marriage are just a click away

  20. I have little doubt that this, while intentional, was not “the Army.” It was almost certainly some pimply-faced middle-ager with a lovingly-carved and hand-painted model of the Flying Spaghetti Knock-Knock Joke on his desk.

  21. If you love gay marriage so much, why don’t you marry it?

  22. You need to get onboard with lurving you some polygamy, happy.

    For the fairness.

  23. i hate polygamy at least until somebody makes a compelling polygamy rom com what gets one or several golden globe nominations

  24. and that my friends is never gonna happen

  25. the gayz are boring that is all

  26. Ha! We said that about the gays, too.

    Now you can’t swing a cat without hitting a movie/novel/sitcom/made for teevee movie about a plucky gay guy with AIDS or sass or savvy fashion sense and quirky pals who live in fab apartments and have well-paying jobs. That used to only happen on daytime teevee soaps where impoverished angsty teens with pluck would drop into established plot lines and become major heartthrobs and pivotal characters in the arch of a season.

    Every fucking movie that’s made anymore with a mainstream actor has to be about a gay guy with AIDS seeking justice and acceptance. I’m pretty damned tired of seeing a starved out Matthew McConnahey et al sucking face with another guy or Mila Kunis and Natalie Portman doing lipstick porn.

    Straight people need love too!

  27. Oh my.

    #MotherTsarnaevChildrensBooks

    Little Red Riding Hijab
    Where The Wild Things Are (Includes Detailed Maps and Escape Routes)
    Sleeper Cell Beauty
    One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blew-Himself-Up Fish

  28. Mother Tsarnaeva needs to get off my teevee. I’m tired of seeing her wailing and keening.

  29. not a big fan of the Matthew McConaughey his production company is JKL which is the gayest dumbest name ever for a production company and also he’s a big cheeseball and he’s stupid and he makes Texas people look stupid

  30. “Mud” is supposed to be good. It’s set in the South, I’m not sure where and is written by a guy from Arkansas and has a slutty Reese Witherspoon in it.

    Dennis Quaid has a new movie out, too. He’s a ruthless corn farmer in Iowa. I can’t remember the name of it, though.

  31. In all honesty now, when was the last time a Texas person made Texas people look smart?

  32. and that my friends is never gonna happen

    Big Love, much?

    That’s the thin edge of the wedge. Muslims and Fundie Mormons and Those Who Dig Transgressive Behavior For Its Own Sake plus Those Who Despise Western Culture plus Edgy Hollywood Writers (plenty of overlap among those groups) will ensure that the envelope continues to be pushed, because that’s what they do.

    Here’s the thing: It will happen, and when it does, you will refuse to say, “hey, we weren’t supposed to go here!” because that subjects you to ridicule from the people whose good opinion you most prize. Many of them among the groups listed above.

    Drives me crazy when we point out the Slippery Slope (and that there’s a crowd of determined “progressives” scrumming behind us, elbowing and shoving juuuuuust enough to nudge us farther down it, and then a little more, and a little more, because their ultimate goal is to get us to the foot of the slope), and other people scornfully say, “That will never happen, you scaremonger. Why should Policy X be held hostage to YOUR fears about something that won’t ever happen?”

    And then it does happen. And we don’t even get to say “toldja so,” because they’re busy denying that A led to B and then to C, and also denying that C is a problem, and besides it’s all our fault for being such h8y biggits.

    I’ve been observing this with my own eyeballs since 1970 or so. The ratchet goes only one way.

  33. He’s a ruthless corn farmer, or he’s a ruthless corn farmer who meets his match in a ruthless agribusiness megacorporation that’s not ArcherDaniels or Monsanto (except that it is)?

    Just as long as he’s not a ruthless farmer who fucks his daughters just like the rest of his livestock,, I guess.

  34. for example there is the Margo Martindale Mr. Ernst

    her characters are always worldly wise just like for reals texans

  35. He’s a ruthless corn farmer who is all about acquiring more acreage. Roger that about Big Agro being a part of it.

  36. apropos to Dicentra’s argument.

  37. dicentra i think if we work to where we get back to having a little country with economic mobility and opportunity we won’t have to worry overmuch about polygamy

    and if we don’t, who cares?

  38. He’s a ruthless corn farmer who is all about acquiring more acreage.

    Welcome to the reality of modern agriculture.

  39. Sissy Spacek has a lot of range as an actress, too. Even if she is Rip Torn’s cousin.

  40. Ima see can I get “H8Y BIGGIT” on my license plate.

  41. i think if we work to where we get back to having a little country with economic mobility and opportunity we won’t have to worry overmuch about polygamy

    Marx’s homo oeconomicus argument turned inside out. Quite an accomplishment when you recall that Marx is Hegel turned upside down.

  42. polygamy just isn’t on my radar at all Mr. Ernst, but I can see if we all start living together in mobile home communities with community gardens and just a couple pickups what work at any one time how that sort of thing might grow to have an appeal

  43. So, you’re saying all polygamists are white trash? Guess again, happy.

  44. hp – You really believe we can just ignore polygamy if it is legalized?
    How about polygamy + comprehensive immigration reform + the current welfare/foodstamps/obomaphone fre for all?

    We’ll be luck if it takes a few generations before we become foreigners in our own country.

  45. yes i think polygamy is trashy i mean c’mon you can’t go to the symphony like that

  46. Mr. Libby we’re already pretty much foreigners

    sit down and watch cable for an hour or so

    you’ll see

  47. polygamy just isn’t on my radar at all Mr. Ernst

    Whirling a flashlight with nearly dead batteries around over your head does not constitute radar.

  48. And homosexuality isn’t exactly as fabulous as its promoters make it out to be.

  49. Thinking polygamy is trashy is pretty narrow-minded and hatey of you, happy.

  50. it’s definitionally trashy it’s not my fault

    it’s like going to del taco

  51. HP – My point is less about diversity and more about how this will impact our overall culture and current government programs. One cannot consider polygamy on it’s own, like, hey, it doesn’t effect my marriage so what’s the big deal?
    It’s things like:
    How will polygamy work with immigration? If a foreigner overstayed his visa and is granted amnesty, can he then bring in his multiple wives and many kids for amnesty or citizenship, too? Have we calculated the impact of this greater one to many family members ratio into our immigration policies on amnesty, etc.?
    Can we bear the burden if this same guy goes on welfare, and also each of his wives go on welfare?
    How will the courts handle domestic issues, such as child custody or domestic abuse. Will this not pave the way for shari’a law?
    How will schools handle these families – will each child have multiple mothers listed as the contact/guardian, etc.?
    Will we have be required to redesign public housing to accommodate these larger families?
    These may seem silly, but it’s pretty common in America for people, upon receiving some sort of recognition, turn around and demand accommodation (such as bakeries, florists, landlords, churches sued for not supporting SSM).

  52. Once marriage is reimagined as merely “love” + sex, why on earth would any such relationship, be it two queers, three, or twelve, be denied the label?

    SSM was on no one’s radar 10 years ago…

  53. i think it’s best we eschew polygamy Mr. Libby

    it’s just a big headache for all involved

    I don’t understand though why some people don’t want to make tasty baked goods for gay marriage weddings

    first of all they get paid for it and then when everyone tastes the tasty baked goods people will say hey let’s have these people make tasty goods for our next affair what we need baked goods for – then they get to sell more baked goods and make even more monies

    it’s a rock-solid business plan unless you’re “Hermosa Baking Company” and you pretend like your red velvet cake has creamcheese icing when it’s really just this nasty cool whip type crap smeared on dry red blechness – then you probably should fly under the radar unless you wanna get bonked in the goozle with a flashlight

  54. I was trying to suggest that maybe the permissive society, as we might call it, and the servile state (aka liberal fascism, regulatory crony capitalism, socialism in one-state etc.) were inextricably linked. Hence my Marx inside out quip.

    But there’s not much point in trying to develop that argument off of the comments a guy who thinks opposition to same-sex marriage is a form of false consciousness, bitterly clinging to your sexual compliment (literally!, as it were) because where there’s no jobs or economic opportunity, what else is a bitter clinger bored with his guns and his Bible going to do?

    Except of course for collecting wives like a patriach of the Hebrews. And in the trailer parks which embody the economically depressive conditions which supposedly cause people to cling to their traditional (read Christianist or Godbothery) marriages, no less.

  55. you shouldn’t be forced to participate in sumone’s big gay wedding

  56. every 15th apple in the world was exported from the netherlands Mr. Ernst

  57. I agree it will be a headache. The thing is, the same people who are pushing SSM have been planning on polygamy, too. It’s all part of their overall goal of expanding marriage to cover any kind of union between any configuration of people. They’ve just been kinda quiet about it.

    Here’s activist Masha Gessen: http://tinyurl.com/bu494sp
    “(F)ighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we are going to do with marriage when we get there — because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie.”

    A recent article in Slate also stated that of course polygamy should be legalized along with same-sex marriage:
    “The definition of marriage is plastic. Just like heterosexual marriage is no better or worse than homosexual marriage, marriage between two consenting adults is not inherently more or less “correct” than marriage among three (or four, or six) consenting adults. Though polygamists are a minority—a tiny minority, in fact—freedom has no value unless it extends to even the smallest and most marginalized groups among us.”
    http://tinyurl.com/csjtlhh
    http://beyondmarriage.org/

  58. I understand how you might be apprehensive but the christian agenda is equally as perplexing Mr. Libby

    I think we’ll just have to find some sort of accommodation that activists on both sides will be unhappy with

  59. ” but the christian agenda is equally as perplexing Mr. Libby”

    those xtians are demonrats too

  60. demonrats hah i see what you did there

  61. Good lord, happyfeet — if you think those Westboro mutants are Christians you have to be living in a jar.

  62. Oh, please. The Westboro “Baptist” Church is not representative of Christianity and you know it. They’re a freakshow.

    How does one split the difference on the definition of marriage? You can’t. As I’ve said, it can’t just be “don’t do it (SSM, polygamy) if you don’t like it.” It effects everything; polygamy requires a complete overhaul of our institutions. By design.
    How do you negotiate or compromise with people who want to do this?

  63. Masha Gessen is not a freakshow?

  64. Honestly, I don’t know where Martha Glessen fits in – as part of the norm in lesbian activist circles or an extremist. So we can write her off as a a freakshow, too, if you’d like.
    However, look at that Beyond Marriage Organization’s manifesto. Published back in 2006, btw. There’s a list of signatories, which no doubt includes some on the extremist spectrum (based on the names of their organizations that focused specifically on SSM or polygamy), but it it also includes some recognizable people, organizations and institutions, too.

  65. everything is going to be ok

    gay marriage is just being fair

    young people understand that intuitively

    and so it came to pass that gay people could get married in America

    but not in Russia or Saudi Arabia

  66. They’re all freaks. Not only that, they do not understand the separation of Church and state and the right of free association. The Christian bakers and florists don’t have to make cakes or arrange flowers for queers if it conflicts with their beliefs. Christian churches do not have to bless their blasphemous unions. You can’t make people perform labor for you if they don’t want to do so.

  67. “gay marriage is just being proggtarded and makin’ up sh!tfair

  68. Why does gay marriage have to come up yet again? All it is around here is fodder for the electric hamster.

  69. everything is going to be ok

  70. picachu
    just remember
    sarah palin
    luvs u too

  71. i remember

  72. “The pleasure is fleeting, the position ridiculous and the cost abominable.”

  73. Sorry, cranky-d, for taking the SSM/polygamy bait. I’m really sick of it, too.

    Also tired of seeing comments trivializing these incremental changes – what’s the big deal? not gonna affect you a bit! relax!- purposefully ignoring that we’re really talking about a major societal shift.

  74. Johnson was quite the romantic.

  75. President Sarah Palin.

  76. The EMTs should be en route to happyfeet’s house shortly.

  77. no I’m at work still i live on the west coast

  78. Must be going around. The Beebs got busted in Sweden for weed on his tour bus. But they let him go.

  79. beebs? what be dat?

  80. Justin Bieber.

  81. How will polygamy work with immigration? If a foreigner overstayed his visa and is granted amnesty, can he then bring in his multiple wives and many kids for amnesty or citizenship, too? Have we calculated the impact of this greater one to many family members ratio into our immigration policies on amnesty, etc.?
    Can we bear the burden if this same guy goes on welfare, and also each of his wives go on welfare?
    How will the courts handle domestic issues, such as child custody or domestic abuse. Will this not pave the way for shari’a law?
    How will schools handle these families – will each child have multiple mothers listed as the contact/guardian, etc.?
    Will we have be required to redesign public housing to accommodate these larger families?

    If polygamy will bring about the collapse of society by magnifying all those problems I am all for it.

  82. merci madam

  83. danke frau is just no. nothing against fraus mind you.

  84. It’s still important to recall that — historically speaking — just as with ordering #4 for three off the Chinese menu, with which you get Eggroll automatically, so with polygamy you get eunuchs, peopling the bureaucracy and guarding the harem.

  85. i should consult with a peep on the “pathway to repatriation” on how to say that in spanglish

  86. are the eggrolls low sodium? a mayor wants to know.

  87. Hewitt has a great deal of fun with a lefty caller yesterday. This MP3 really is pretty funny.

  88. Except of course for collecting wives like a patriach of the Hebrews.

    Worse. Like a Persian monarch, filling his harem with beauties from all of the countries who want to be on the Persians’ good side.

    All of the Alpha males will get the babes; the Betas, though Beta, will form roving rape/violence gangs, the way elephants do or other ungulates where the Alpha male gets all the females and the unworthies stew in their resentment until they take it out on the children of the Alpha males.

  89. If polygamy will bring about the collapse of society by magnifying all those problems I am all for it.

    Exactly why it’s next on the Left’s list.

  90. polygamy is a risky scheme

  91. gay marriage is just being fair

    young people understand that intuitively

    That’s because young people don’t know jack. They have no experience; they haven’t been watching the proggs do their incrementalism for decades, and they’ve been raised in a culture where all your status points come from either being a Victim or a Victim Sympathizer.

    They’ve never experienced the way Being Motivated By Compassion can still result in disaster.

    everything is going to be ok

    And if it isn’t, then what? We’ll roll it back, just as we’ve rolled back all of the proggies Grand Mistakes of the past 100 years?

    Will you do it personally?

  92. you have my word

  93. You won’t do a damn thing.

  94. young people understand that intuitively

    And yet somehow a thousand generations of young people matured, married, raised families, grew old, and died without demanding it.

    People understand eternal truths intuitively. Something that just suddenly popped up in our lifetimes is not an eternal truth.

  95. gay people haven’t been treated super well in the past going forward though we’re resolved to welcome them into society as equals

    I think it’s kinda cool that we all get to be here at the dawn of it

  96. SSM passed in France where even real marriage has been on the decline and the Frenchies look for more vacation and don’t even have enough babies to replace themselves.

    SSM just accelerates the process of making The State one’s primary relationship.

    As Harry Reid preaches, The State is inherently good.

  97. And Obamessiah was at Planned Parenthood giving them God’s his blessing and stating that the $500 million they get from the Feds will continue in spite of dastardly Xtian Conservatives who want the 1950’s back or something.

  98. Darleen, sadly not surprising after the spectacle of the DNC 2012 abortion-fest. Their enthusiasm was really off-putting. The days of “safe, legal, and rare” are long gone, replaced by “hell, yeah, I can end a pregnancy anytime, for any reason I want, bitchz, and you’re going to pay for it!”

  99. if gay marriage hadn’t passed in france sarkozy-style marriage would still be in decline plus french people would still want more vacation plus also they still wouldn’t have enough babies to replace themselves plus also they would still have lots of croissants and what you can do with croissants is slice them open and put three hersheys kisses inside (you can skewer the croissant with the pointy bit so they stick) and then close it up and pop it into the microwave for 22 seconds and bam it’s very tasty

    hey you guys have you talked to darleen lately?

    i haven’t really talked to her but she looks pretty down about the gay marriage

    yeah well maybe we should cheer her up!

    yeah what do you think we should do?

    I dunno does she like tartelettes au beurre?

  100. All of the Alpha males will get the babes; the Betas, though Beta, will form roving rape/violence gangs…

    Your going to have to try harder than that to convince me that Betas not reproducing would be a bad thing right now.

  101. words mean things, hf, you should know that by now.

    No gay person is denied marriage, as long as they choose ONE partner, of the opposite sex who is an adult legally capable of giving consent AND not within a certain degree of consanguinity.

    Same-sex marriage just isn’t. No one is stopping same sex couples or groups of any dimensions of setting up housekeeping. But public sanction and benefits? Nope. Doesn’t qualify.

  102. oui it does

  103. If we’re going to go through the whole gay marriage thing yet again maybe we could change it up and each take the other side of the argument for this thread.

  104. It did seem that we were originally talking about the Army blocking the Baptist website though.

    We all thought that was a bad idea, right?

  105. “gay people ”

    nah just peeps what be freaks of nature you anti darwinist.

  106. army blocks “freaks of nature web site” nyt annoyed!!11!!!

  107. gay people haven’t been treated super well in the past going forward though we’re resolved to welcome them into society as equals

    We are?

    Nobody tells me these things

  108. gay people haven’t been treated super well in the past going forward though we’re resolved to welcome them into society as equals

    Equals, eh?

    Early pregnancy tests will never work correctly for gays.

    Trust me on this.

  109. gay people haven’t been treated super well in the past going forward though we’re resolved to welcome them into society as equals

    That’s right.

    Equals but…not, really.

    We’ll pretend.

    Like, pretend marriages!

  110. Henceforth, I am not going to talk about gay marriage, bh.

    And I am a woman of my word.

  111. gay people haven’t been treated super well in the past going forward though we’re resolved to welcome them into society as equals

    You know what else is not equal?

    Toilet paper. Try some rough stuff down there, you’ll not be happy.

    Or maybe you will.

  112. And Obamessiah was at Planned Parenthood giving them God’s his blessing and stating that the $500 million they get from the Feds will continue in spite of dastardly Xtian Conservatives who want the 1950?s back or something.

    “As long as we have to fight….those little unborn bastards!!! I’ll be here stomping their little undeveloped heads with you!”

    The President Of The United States of Moloch.

  113. there is a reason that the phrase: “that’s so gay” works.

  114. Nah, talking about it is just fine by me, leigh, but there’s some serious Groundhog Day repetition going on here. We’re repeating our points to unlistening folks who then repeat their points back.

  115. “that’s so facebook” would work just as well I think

  116. bh what kind of sous vide machine do you use?

  117. You know what I really think about gay marriage?

    I think the powers that be (from both “parties”) would much rather that people spend their time screaming at each other about gay marriage instead of, say, wondering exactly where all that “stimulus” money went.

  118. “that’s so facebook”

    nah 9-12 y/os know gay/stupid

  119. We’re repeating our points to unlistening folks who then repeat their points back.

    Exactly, bh. If the topic is gay marriage, then fine. Threadjacking? Ungood.

  120. This one here at the moment, nr, the Chef Series if it doesn’t link properly. It’s my understanding that the cheaper one (Creative Series) works just as well, btw. People say it can circulate 8 gallons of water without any problem.

  121. threadjacking? gay marriage is in the post

    to review, leigh, the baptist collective is suspicious that its members what are in the military are being persecuted with web censorships cause of “its support of the pro-life movement and its strong belief in traditional marriage”

    and of course this may very well be true cause of how the Army hates christians as is demonstrated by American Family Association bullet points on the subject in the article what clearly demonstrate that the United States Army is openly contemptuous of christianity and christians

    this is a problem and we have to stop it we have to work together or else the Army will win

  122. bh i’m a cheap “sous vide” dude. slow cooker with temp. con. the blowtorch makes the diff? ps i like being able to control the slow cooker. vegs @ about 80 c.

  123. Geoff has a similar set up and it sounds like it works great for him, nr. If you’re able to hold a water temp that’s all you need. No need to spend more.

    Yeah, getting a good sear is a must. Gray meat or green meat (seriously, short ribs for 72 hrs come out green) looks gross and tastes incomplete. Some people use a blowtorch and some people just use a really hot pan with a bit of oil for a couple minutes after taking it out of the water. Both work. I think the pan is easier myself but a blowtorch works well for non-flat surfaces.

  124. It is understood that Mr Berry had picked up the snake after noticing it was near a group of young children who had just finished their training.*

    that’s the saddest thing

    except maybe for the story about One Direction’s biggest fan being torn apart by a pack of dogs

    which is technically more sadder but in a different way

  125. I still think sous vide is cooking for dudes who like gadgets. Who else has the time?

    I don’t have the time or the patience, so more power to you who do!

  126. Here’s the thing: strike the snake a deadly blow with the fucking hockey stick before picking it up, Ozzies. This death business is entirely unnecessary.

  127. Think about time in a different way then. Not how long it takes to prep but how long it takes after prep from order to service. With sous vide you can knock out a variety of proteins cooked perfectly in a couple of minutes.

  128. there’s no end of things in australia what want to kill you it’s worse than texas even

  129. Who else has the time?

    put fish in @ 130 F . take out @ 130 F 4-6 hours later. no gov’t overcook

  130. the croissant thing we talked about only takes 22 seconds

  131. the food science(!!11!!) to sous vide cooking

    DouglasBaldwin.com

  132. funny how guns, telegraphs and sewing machines are no. 1 in 1850-60. well steel too. thx andy c.

  133. pikachu thread killers here

  134. My old Granny in Glen Rose got expert with the .22 dealing with the rattlers. Sweet old bird was still shooting them into her 80s. Took no shit from snakes — just wasn’t any sense in it, if only for the sake of the cattle. Besides, the rattles made neat necklaces.

  135. copperheads and moccasins were the ones we had to be careful about

    coral snakes too but I never ran into one

    rattlers not so much

  136. We’ve gone a bit afield here but — pretending this is some sort of recommendation thread — I’ll second that on Douglas Baldwin regarding sous vide and throw in McGee’s On Food and Cooking: The Science and Lore of the Kitchen as well. Even if you hate cooking you’ll enjoy that book. Fun facts! Strange ol’ timey quotes! Discussions of heat and egg proteins!

  137. threadjacking? gay marriage is in the post

    fuck you, griefer. It wasn’t the point of this post at all but you gotta make it about you.

  138. yes i need to set aside a time to do baldwins eggs. ghad that sounds/looks bad.

  139. i always get in trouble

    it’s no fair

  140. And Obamessiah was at Planned Parenthood giving them God’s his blessing and stating that the $500 million they get from the Feds will continue in spite of dastardly Xtian Conservatives who want the 1950?s back or something.

    And people say Obama wants to punish Americans by furloughing air traffic controllers! Ha! If he really wanted to make Americans hurt, he woulda cut off Planned Parenthood…

    I think the powers that be (from both “parties”) would much rather that people spend their time screaming at each other about gay marriage instead of, say, wondering exactly where all that “stimulus” money went.

    You know where the stimulus” money went. It’s just too damn depressing to talk about.

  141. it’s no fair

    Shepard Fairey faggot

  142. Libby said:

    A recent article in Slate also stated that of course polygamy should be legalized along with same-sex marriage:
    “The definition of marriage is plastic. Just like heterosexual marriage is no better or worse than homosexual marriage, marriage between two consenting adults is not inherently more or less “correct” than marriage among three (or four, or six) consenting adults. Though polygamists are a minority—a tiny minority, in fact—freedom has no value unless it extends to even the smallest and most marginalized groups among us.

    And:

    How does one split the difference on the definition of marriage? You can’t. As I’ve said, it can’t just be “don’t do it (SSM, polygamy) if you don’t like it.” It effects everything; polygamy requires a complete overhaul of our institutions. By design.
    How do you negotiate or compromise with people who want to do this?

    Shortly after which happyfeet commented:

    everything is going to be ok
    gay marriage is just being fair
    young people understand that intuitively

    Young people are self-absorbed monsters until somebody disciplines self-absorbtion out of ‘em. Sadly that doesn’t happen much any more. Neither life nor the world are fair. Attempting to make both fair (as opposed to fairer) has been a disaster everywhere it’s been tried.

    Just case somebody hasn’t made that point already.

  143. here is a singing for you Mr. newrouter what is by one Mr. Justin Moore who I enjoy to hear whether it’s in my car or here at home I hope you enjoy it as much as I do

  144. oh bollocks Mr. Ernst you ones are always going on about how marriage is a bulwark against the state

    well I say gay peoples are every bit as entitled to a bulwark as the majority of married people in America

    the bulk of whom are food stamper trash anymore

  145. “the bulk of whom are food stamper trash anymore”

    you go it

  146. the bulk of whom are food stamper trash anymore

    ax ge?

  147. I’m not sure i understand the point of sous vide. Is the taste that much better?

  148. ain’t that just my luck where’s a chain I’m stuck

  149. You know what is a good bulwark against the state is being dead. I mean, how many dead people does the state bother?

    What we need to do is call live people dead, then the state wouldn’t bother them and it would be all fair and shit for those poor people that died when they wanted to keep living.

    Plus, all those aborted babies would be equal, and abortion wouldn’t be a problem anymore because we would all be dead, not just them. Is that fair or what?

    This redefining stuff has all kinds of possibilities!

  150. Your going to have to try harder than that to convince me that Betas not reproducing would be a bad thing right now.

    This is why I don’t particularly bare for the Alpha-Beta-Omegaloser conceptual categories that have spilled over from the Pick-up Artist community into other areas of the blogosphere. The characteristics that make so-called alpha males successful in the present sexual market-place don’t benefit society as a whole. Just as Pat Moynihan tried to tell us about the black familiy forty years ago, and Charles Murray about the white family just recently.

  151. go snell it on the mountain

  152. you ones are always going on about how marriage is a bulwark against the state
    well I say gay peoples are every bit as entitled to a bulwark as the majority of married people in America

    Entitled is it? By what right?

  153. bare = care, obviously.

  154. Wilsonian self-determination! Naturally. Like the Balkans.

  155. by the same right the not gay peoples is entitled

    like balki bartokomous america or bust

  156. *burst* I mean

  157. hf, a gay man has exactly the same rights as a straight man. Right now. In every way.

    Please link me the marriage statute in, say, California that mentions sexual orientation.

  158. i can’t link it right now I’m busy

  159. that’s so ooky like anyone wants a gay man to exercise his right to marry your daughter in a special crystal cathedral ceremony where anita baker sings on the wings of love right after communion no

    nobody wants that to EVER fucking happen

  160. And what right is that? Wilsonian self-determiniation, as sdferr called it, or something else?

  161. wilsonian self-determiniation is for pussies I’m talking about the real shit

  162. I think it would only be fair to designate my car as a house so I can write off the loan interest on my taxes.

    Plus, it would virtually eliminate the homelessness situation for those unfortunate people sleeping in their car.

    A twofer!

    Who knew simple redefinitions could solve so many societal ills, plus a few of my personal peeves!

  163. I doubt that very much.

    But I believe you believe it.

  164. bring me the head of john the baptist!

    no I’m – that’s just not going to happen for one thing that’s gross

    bring me the head of john the baptist!

    you’re fucking sick

    bring me the head of john the baptist!

    I’m not gonna hang around anymore if you don’t stop

    bring me the head of john the baptist!

    ok it’s happy hour I’m going to sonic you want a route 44?

    yes please a vanilla cherry diet

    ok brb

    love you

    love you too

  165. Who knew simple redefinitions could solve so many societal ills, plus a few of my personal peeves!

    There you go.

  166. If we could get the city to accept my calf is a puppy and my chicken is a cat, I could get around those stupid zoning laws that stop me from ranching in my subdivision back yard!

    Oh, and that smell you claim is pig shit? That’s potpourri. It’s not fair pedals from a flower get more respect than pig shit…

  167. Interesting that you should mention John the Baptist, who was arrested, and later executed at least in part for denouncing an incestuous marriage —between consenting adults no less.

  168. poor man

  169. well I say gay peoples are every bit as entitled to a bulwark as the majority of married people in America

    the bulk of whom are food stamper trash anymore

    Fucking breeders, right? I remember when teh gheys adamantly didn’t want to pretend to be like them.

  170. Who knew simple redefinitions could solve so many societal ills, plus a few of my personal peeves!

    We should redefine the anus as a vagina, and then we could redefine feces as fetus. That way, everyone could celebrate my morning constitutional and give it the warm welcome it deserves. This could also help us start getting rid of that silly social construct we call gender!

  171. I’m-a redefine myself as the richest, most powerful & sexiest man what ever lived, ‘cuz I’m just as entitled to be rich and powerful and sexy as the majority of rich, powerful, sexy people what are rich, powerful and sexy right now.

  172. With sous vide you can knock out a variety of proteins…

    Suppose we just want to rough one up a bit ?

  173. McGee’s On Food and Cooking: The Science and Lore of the Kitchen as well.

    That book is excellent. I’ve been cooking since I was about 9 years old or so and have always liked the science of cooking as much as the cooking itself.

  174. I’m-a redefine myself as the richest, most powerful & sexiest man what ever lived, ‘cuz I’m just as entitled to be rich and powerful and sexy as the majority of rich, powerful, sexy people what are rich, powerful and sexy right now.

    Careful. Now we’re into Plato’s Republic territory. A regime where bitter old crones like, say leigh, are entitled to be sexually serviced by virile young studs such as yourself*. Because of teh justis and of teh equaliteh.

    *Just for purposes of illustration of course. We all know neither of those things are true.

  175. I didn’t say nothin’ about equality. I’m merely redefining myself into their exclusive club. Then I’m pulling up the ladder after me.

    Don’t want no polygamists in our club.

  176. The characteristics that make so-called alpha males successful in the present sexual market-place don’t benefit society as a whole.

    I guess that is why the Progressives are trying to breed them out of existence, huh?

  177. “when was the last time a Texas person made Texas people look smart”

    Aug 4 1993

  178. I guess that is why the Progressives are trying to breed them [i.e. so-called alpha males] out of existence, huh?

    Actually the Feminist variant of Leftism (or Progressivism) has been very good for alpha males. At least as far as the sexual market place is concerned.

    So either one of us is very mistaken about what is meant by the term alpha male, or we’re using it to define different concepts.

  179. I guess that is why the Progressives are trying to abort them out of existence, huh?

    FTFY

    Explains why feminists embrace unlimited abortions…they can have guilty pleasures with an alpha male, then dump him twice.

  180. More like a revenge dump. Alpha males —in the sense that the men’s rights activist and pick-up artistt seem to me to be using the term— don’t stick around long enough to be dumped. Supposedly.

  181. Oh hell, danger, that was a thing of beauty at the time, and only looks better 20 years later. Drysdale-esque, even.

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