February 6, 2013

Have we finally found a Paul we can get behind for President? [UPDATED]

And by “we,” I mean those of us who were sickened by the elder Paul’s foreign policy ideas?  Because the son doesn’t sound too terribly much like the father.

It’s important to remember that the establishment backed a moderate KY attorney general over Paul in the GOP primaries.  And now they’re seeking to redefine conservatism and pretend that, pushing for the nomination of Bush /Christie or Rubio, is akin to backing a conservative candidate.

Which is what all you ungrateful conservative bastards have been clamoring for, ain’t it?  Well, here he is.  Picked by the “Conservative Victory Project.”  Which has conservative right in its name, for Chrissakes.

What more do you stupid fringe Hobbity rightwingers want?

But I suspect most of us won’t be fooled. With the exception of all the sites that will tell us Paul can’t win, and that we need to get behind Bush.  Whom we should be ignoring anyway.

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update:  was just harangued and unfollowed on Twitter by a PATRIOT for this post.  Which I’m quite sure he didn’t read.  His argument is that Paul has accomplished nothing, and that his father was a pork gatherer.  When I pointed out that he forced to the floor a bill that would deny the MB advanced weaponry, the PATRIOT’S response was, “see?  He couldn’t get enough people to follow him. NO RESULTS!”

I’d point out that by his own standards he should be voting for Obama, but frankly, I’d rather not have stupid people following me on Twitter, anyway.  Call it a pruning.

 

 

Posted by Jeff G. @ 1:17pm
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Comments (144)

  1. Yes. Or at least I have. He is trailing a distant fourth and closing on third in the last CPAC poll (I think it was) behind Saint Marco Rucio (1st), Paul “Name Rrecognition” Ryan, I forget who next with Chris RINO Christie trailing the pack.

  2. I don’t know much about him, but what I’ve seen I like. Plus he’s a fighter, and there’s a fair chance he even possesses testicles.

    That right there (the fighter part) distinguishes him from 98% of the Republican field, and is, IMHO, the rare quality that made Palin so popular.

    Jee, I wonder how a Palin/Paul ticket would do against Hillary. It would scare the shit out of the establishment (national and global), I can tell you that.

  3. The Big Media attempts to delegitimize Rand Paul start in 3, 2, 1, …

  4. His argument is that Paul has accomplished nothing, and that his father was a pork gatherer.

    Wait, is this a description of G W Bush or Rand Paul?

  5. Hillary is going to be a seriously old hag by 2016. Her tendency to fall down and break her bones and smack her head may call into question her sobriety and suitablity for the post of POTUS.

  6. Does seem to be that way. Looks like he’s learned how to respect grassroots while distancing himself from his father’s “evil hippy” vibes. A good combination of Washington know-how without the obnoxious GET THINGS DONE(tm) vibe.

    …Doesn’t help that the GOP is apparently planning to collapse outright as a national party in 2014.

  7. Paul’s address in video.
    Plus, down the page here a bit on the right hand margin, there’s a link to a short discussion with Paul held prior to his speech. His easy facility with language and thought sets him apart from most of the pols we see today, but is obviously no guarantee he knows what he needs to know or knows what he doesn’t know. Still, it is refreshing to hear that facility, if only on account of the stark contrast it makes with the miserable twits to whom we’re commonly exposed.

  8. Until the Junior Senator from Kentucky proves he can manage something more substantial than either his campaign or his Senate office, the answer is either “no,” or “maybe.”

  9. I like how the local big “R” group spends half its time pointing across the river and shouting, “Rand Paul likes it! Ain’t it great!” and the other half shouting, “What the hell does Rand Paul know?”

  10. As I’ve announced at DP repeatedly, I am supporting Rand Paul for President in 2016. I did find one thing a bit worrisome about his speech, though: His dogged insistence that while “war” must be “on the table” in regards to Iran’s quest for nukes, as well as a tool for resisting “radical Islam,” I didn’t sense any real willingness to actually pick that particular tool up off the table and use it. I’d like to see him lay out a bit more thoroughly the situations in which he would consider waging war an acceptable option.

  11. Wait. I just read that. That was a troll. Had to be. It’s way too early for box wine.

  12. The twitter thing, I mean.

  13. Maybe he’s just the kind of team player who will be demanding to know what Jeff has against winning three years hence.

  14. Hillary is going to be a seriously old hag by 2016

    What is she now, leigh? Just practising?

  15. She is an old bag now, SW. It’s a matter of degree.

  16. Until the Junior Senator from Kentucky proves he can manage something more substantial than either his campaign or his Senate office, the answer is either “no,” or “maybe.”

    We got a “good manager” during the last campaign. Look how that turned out. I want a good campaigner, because that’s the ONLY way the Dems can be beaten.

  17. I’m on board for this guy…I’d vote for him RIGHT NOW. I suspect that makes me a Hobbit, but I don’t give a shit.

  18. In a recent Senate resolution, the bipartisan consensus stated that we will never contain Iran should they get a nuclear weapon. In the debate, I made the point that while I think it unwise to declare that we will contain a nuclear Iran, I think it equally unwise to say we will never contain a nuclear Iran. War should never be our only option.

    [emphasis added]

    There is a strange embedded incoherence to say, as Paul says in these isolated sentences, “Let me be clear. I don’t want Iran to develop nuclear weapons but I also don’t want to decide with certainty that war is the only option.”

    Yet, in any justifiable war undertaking, we do tend to say that at this moment, this moment of decision to go to war, it is in fact the only option, pressed upon us by necessity — consider for an instance immediately after an uninvited attack from abroad.

    And so with any decision to go to war with an identified enemy, or with any such decision taken under a claim of necessity. So saying “I don’t want to decide with certainty” is saying what, exactly? Surely he wouldn’t want to be found saying the hanging consequent “therefore I’ll never decide that war is the only option” [because it should never be our only option]. What happened to the realist?

    But perhaps this is simply too flyspecky. I’m pretty sure I’m way off. He probably just means “right now”, because he isn’t the decision maker anyhow.

  19. I like that he has balls yet lacks the craziness of his ol dad. I’m wondering if he can keep his dad’s (mostly) looney supporters or if his relatively mainstream views will alienate all but the most moderate of the loons.

  20. Until the Junior Senator from Kentucky proves he can manage something more substantial than either his campaign or his Senate office, the answer is either “no,” or “maybe.”

    I can go with “maybe.” I’ve reached the point where I really just want somebody who can articulate and defend classical liberal principles, without getting sheepish or apologetic about it. I want somebody who can say:

    “Washington does a lot of stupid things very well, and a lot of important things very badly. We’ve tried for a hundred years to fix things — the Democrats throw more and more money into the programs, and the Republicans promise to run them more efficiently — and both sides have only made them worse. So under my Administration, Washington is going to stop doing the stupid things, and is going to turn over the important stuff to the States and to private companies and charities who will achieve far better outcomes at far lower costs. Under my watch, we’re going to concentrate on the handful of duties that our Constitution says we need to handle, and we’re not going to do anything else until we’ve proven we can handle these core responsibilities.”

    What’s more, I want a guy who actually believes it, and can show a bit of passion about it, and get others on board with it. Somebody who can embarrass his media critics. Give me a true believer with good communication skills and a spine, and I promise I won’t complain too loudly if he turns out to be a mediocre manager.

  21. I might be able to vote or him — unless he runs as a Republican.

  22. *** Everybody now loves Ronald Reagan. Even President Obama tries to toady up and vainly try to resemble some Reaganism. Reagan’s foreign policy was robust but also restrained. He pulled no punches in telling Mr. Gorbachev to “tear down that wall.” He did not shy from labeling the Soviet Union an evil empire. But he also sat down with Gorbachev and negotiated meaningful reductions in nuclear weapons. ***

    Okay, so was Reagan’s foreign policy restrained when he inserted U.S. Marines into Lebanon as part of a Multinational Force in order to escort the PLO out of Lebanon, and thus into the midst of a raging civil war? Only to find later that, willy-nilly, the US forces would be seen to have taken sides with one faction by another, and bombed into a near immediate retreat? What did that teach, say, Osama bin Laden?

  23. Rand Paul is excellent. Not much more than that to be said.

  24. I thought it was just weird how he said Benghazi was the worst tragedy since 9/11

    that’s just zany I don’t care who you are

  25. i think it is code for clinton incompetence cause 911 had that clinton talent on it too

  26. Rubio is going to do his response in English and in Spanish? Why?

  27. oh.

    Nope still not really seeing it.

  28. you may be right but benghazi has such flair when you throw it out there

  29. besides the livs are waiting for ben gazi’s next flick

  30. he needs to be super careful going forward not to say things that are zany or wacky or cray cray

    mostly cause of who his daddy is

  31. mostly cause of who his daddy is

    frank marshall davis could not be reached for comment

  32. that’s cause he dead

  33. I think he’s safe. The apple fell far enough from the tree this time.

    He’s the hands on fav of the 18-35 crowd.

  34. *** Everybody now loves Ronald Reagan. Even President Obama tries to toady up and vainly try to resemble some Reaganism. Reagan’s foreign policy was robust but also restrained. He pulled no punches in telling Mr. Gorbachev to “tear down that wall.” He did not shy from labeling the Soviet Union an evil empire. But he also sat down with Gorbachev and negotiated meaningful reductions in nuclear weapons. [emph. add.]***

    The problem with that as presented (by Paul?) is it creates the appearance of a disconnect between the rhetoric and the achievements, when in fact the former created the conditions for the latter.

  35. well step dad billy ayers is there

  36. He’s the hands on fav of the 18-35 crowd.

    That’s like saying X is the cigarette brand most preferred by non-smokers.

  37. He’s the hands on fav of the 18-35 crowd.

    what happen to ben gazi?

  38. If you say so Ernst. I read it somewhere yesterday that the yoot vote has transfered their loyalty from Ronpaul to Rand Paul. I’m guessing a few of them have voted before.

  39. - Looks like we’ll have to add the Conn. State att. to the growing list of Sandyhook “Conspiracy nuts”.

  40. Huh, indeed. What are they hiding?

    Same deal with the looney tunes guy in Alabama. The BATF guys or whomever, “see” Jimmy with a gun. Three of them swoop in to rescue the kid after firing a smoke grenade into a 6×8 foot bunker where they proceed to gun down the kidnapper.

    Kid is unscathed by the non-ricocheting gunfire in close quarters with four grown men opening fire on the old loon.

    Sure.

  41. cnn so bad wanted that kid to get shot they could fucking taste it

  42. No kidding, happy. I’ve been waiting for the parents to do the morning teevee live tour.

  43. i think i saw mama this morning on the cnn she was

    not good tv for anybody bless her heart

  44. Faux found some woman who had been held in a bunker back in 93 when she was just a tot and trotted film of her out today. No interview, thank Jesus.

  45. holy bunker babies baman

  46. Same deal with the looney tunes guy in Alabama. The BATF guys or whomever, “see” Jimmy with a gun. Three of them swoop in to rescue the kid after firing a smoke grenade into a 6×8 foot bunker where they proceed to gun down the kidnapper.

    I remember reading somewhere that the brain has a hard time deciding which guy to shoot first when there’s more than one guy to shoot.

    The FBI shooters didn’t have that problem.

    My guess is there were no richochets because all rounds were on target.

  47. Possibly. I was thinking what? No through and through GSWs?

    That kid’s ears must still be ringing.

  48. The national politics extravaganza is dazzled in front of y0u so you don’t see what the other hand is doing.

    Tend to the states.

    The states are the battleground. Don’t be blinded by the bling.

    Join the fight.

  49. okey dokey I got california

  50. I suppose I should elucidate.

    If the states don’t assert their power and independence within this next election cycle, this country will be irrevocably changed, and not for the better.

    It is upon this power within “the separate states” that the federal government has zeroed-in. Fedgov is determined to make vassals of the separate states, of no more worth than counties within a state; without a voice; stripped of the power originally granted to them by the founders.

    THIS is the fight for freedom right now. This is where we, as individuals, can have the most effect in our efforts.

    The situation is most desperate. It requires your contribution. ;-)

  51. That kid’s ears must still be ringing.

    I’m sure the FBI has plenty of cans to stick onto their SBRs

    err, I mean PDWs

  52. American Crossroads and the so-called Conservative Victory Project have already been severely marginalized. The sheer audacity of political consultants maligning a beloved and critically important player in American history is simply a bridge too far.

    You obviously mean to have a war with conservatives and the Tea Party.

    Let it start here.

    The whole thing is worth a read.

  53. I could see Paul as president, and could support him through the primary season.

    Come the general election, I’m willing to bet that I’d support Cthulhu over the Dem (“Why vote for the lesser evil?”) – but I’d be happy to be surprised.

    Any potential Dems for 2016 that would not have “push the country over the cliff” as their default position?

  54. It’s Rove who is the hater. His minion is, as anti-conservatives do, projecting.

  55. Come the general election, I’m willing to bet that I’d support Cthulhu over the Dem

    DON’T SAY THINGS LIKE THAT. That’s how we end up with losers like McCain and Romney.

  56. Rove is no Lee Atwater, no matter how hard he tries to pretend.

  57. McGehee –

    You’re right – we need to win the first fight to make the second fight meaningful. Showing resignation to the result won’t help that.

    Cthulhu, a syphilitic camel, Chris Christie – if it comes to a choice like that its “Damned if you do and damned if you don’t” time.

    Although I don’t think Cthulhu or most syphilitic camels could meet the ‘native born’ requirement, so we don’t have to worry about them…

  58. DON’T SAY THINGS LIKE THAT. That’s how we end up with losers like McCain and Romney.

    Hearty agreement here. That whole “what are you gonna do, throw your vote away? Vote squishy!” argument fails simple logic.

    Not casting a vote for A or B is not the same as casting a vote for B. Nor is casting a vote for C or D or E … the same as voting for B. It’s simply not a vote for A.

  59. I agree with the basic thrust – but the argument being made is that B is the least-bad choice NOW AVAILABLE – and so should be supported in the final extremity to avoid A, which would be worse.

    Our approach needs to be grim determination backed by tireless effort to ensure that choice B is a good choice rather than a least-bad choice.

    Our current beloved ‘leadership’ ain’t swinging this way.

  60. Cthulhu, a syphilitic camel, Chris Christie – if it comes to a choice like that its “Damned if you do and damned if you don’t” time.

    I’d need to hear more from the syphilitic camel.

  61. I’m ready to support SMoD again if necessary.

  62. It’s either that or go postal, cranky.

  63. Pablo –

    I’d like to help you out – but what happens in the zoo, stays in the zoo.

    All you really need to know is that the camel would be better than the Dem, right?

  64. Gen. Dempsey’s defense of the DoD’s [in]actions is more or less, “Gee, we’re dumb, whaddaya want? We’ve been hand selected for our complicity and eagerness to bow to ObaZmian strategy, and you want to blame us, Sen. McCain? Oh, and it’s all the State Department’s fault, but you won’t find them any better than you find us. So, go blow yourself.”

    Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Comforting, eh?

  65. Anyone watching the Senate talk to Panetta about Benghazi? Panetta and Gen. Dempsey keep pointing fingers and then refusing to say who they are pointing to.

    This isn’t an inquiry so much as a plea/demand/shaming about the looming sequester cuts. Although Inhofe has a pretty bad-ass sequence of events chart.

  66. sdferr I have never liked Gen. Dempsey. He’s a weasel.

  67. Kelly Ayotte is a bad-ass.

  68. Let it start here.

    As dreadful as the implications and chaos of this are, it is a phrase I hope we will utter and hear more often, and soon!

  69. Parker, I’m trying to figure out why you are already trying to get us to vote for Dole/Bush/McCain/Romney again in 4 years. That ship has sailed.

  70. Squid’s link to the Jeffrey Lord piece Conservative Fury at Rove Erupts should be the read of the day.

    Beyond that, thinking about the relation of men like Rove, though only like Rove in respect of their views of the nature and purpose of govenment, which is to say, not Rove as Rove, as Lord makes clear, is also the question of the day. The very meaning of Party, as a formal institution of our political life, is thereby called into question. Central matters are afoot.

  71. Brent Bozell is a dorky pearl-clutcher lying legs-splayed on a fainting couch but I never seen fit to put him in the hatey column.

    But I can’t be too upset at Mr. Rove neither. Worst he seems to wanna do is push back against the burgeoning Republican fondness for nominating unelectable fruitloop candidates like the Todd Akin.

    It’s an alarming trend and even though Mr. Rove’s efforts are most surely too little and way way way too late, he ain’t gonna hurt nothing.

    He ain’t Boehner purging fiscal cons and shepherding porky porky chris christie welfare legislation for jersey trash shorebirds.

  72. Didn’t pick up on that bit about the questions not being about Rove, eh, happyfeet? Or, is it just that, contrariwise, you think it’s always about the individual personalities involved, who can be characterized this way or that (dumb for this one, or out of sorts with what they call pop-culture; smart for that one, for being perfectly in tune with the tenor of the times?) That questions of the purposes and nature of government simply aren’t worthy of our attention, when we’d be better off pasting individuals with labels to make them shiny or dull?

  73. Cranky –

    Not trying to do that – trying to explain the thinking of those who are.

    We need to work hard and early to avoid facing that choice, so we come out of the primary with someone who is *NOT* Cthulhu, a syphilitic camel, or Chris Christie.

  74. Mr. sdferr questions of the purposes and nature of government are on hold right now while our little brazilian nightclub of a country breaks out the roman candles and does the horsey dance

    Mr. Daniels wanted to talk about the purposes and nature of government and mostly what happened is we kicked him in the nuts and told him to have a tasty glass of shut the fuck up

    I watched it from afar

    I tried to stop it I swear I did

    but I was too little

  75. All you really need to know is that the camel would be better than the Dem, right?

    No, I’d want to hear his positions on Liberty, free markets, regulation, etc… Just because you’ve got pox doesn’t mean you’re not a constitutionalist.

  76. We were all insufficient to any winning defense of Mr. Daniels, and not least, we might say of Mr. Daniels, was the man himself in defense of himself. But what has that insufficiency had to do with his own view of the purposes and nature of government, do you think? Has he in consequence abandoned all those views for newer and better ones? Or has he rather, set out upon another path in order to achieve in whatever way he can to advance the very same views he held before?

  77. Mr. Daniels wanted to talk about the purposes and nature of government and mostly what happened is we kicked him in the nuts and told him to have a tasty glass of shut the fuck up

    No, mostly what happened is he didn’t want the media kicking his wife in the nuts.

  78. A Democrat will never get my vote for president. A Democrat-lite-in-elephant’s-clothing is still a Democrat in my book.

  79. Or has he rather, set out upon another path in order to achieve in whatever way he can to advance the very same views he held before?

    it’s kinda like asking the cap’n to lay in a course for home after the titanic has already hit the iceberg Mr. sdferr

    an iceberg of math

    Mr. Daniels has retreated from the fray.

    one of Romney’s most grating qualities as a candidate was his phony focus-grouped pose of better-days-are-ahead hollowly Reaganesque optimism

    what branches grow out of this stony rubbish?

    beats me

  80. Mr. Daniels has retreated from the fray.

    See, I don’t think that’s so. In another sense, not even possibly so, if we simply look at the extent of the reach of the reigning powers of government, their aims, and the genesis itself of the conditions we find anyhow.

    That is, where the hell did this Progressive nightmare come from in the first place? Ah, yes, as it happens, in the very precincts to which you say Daniels has “retreated”. So in that respect, it looks more like an advance directly into the strength of the enemy’s lines to me.

  81. I have to think about that

    I hold the treachery of our propaganda whore media far far more responsible for the dissolution of america than I do academia

    i try not to give either of them any of my monies though

  82. But geez, surely you would admit that the media against which we all have to fight is composed of sheep, of mere ‘followers’ who have not had an original thought in their entire lives? The question then, I think, is, where do the ideas which they follow originate? Where did they come from? Who thought up the idea that the Constitution of the United States is a fundamentally unjust structure or architecture of government in the first place, and who teaches this pernicious thing straight down to this day? Certainly not the bleating media, which wouldn’t know how to think its way through Machiavelli if its very life depended on it, let alone hold J. J. Rousseau up to a thorough grilling.

  83. they’re very aggressive sheep, how brazenly they lie

    i been watching cnn you know

    but as you can see when we look at news items du jour like food stamp sending killdrones after america citizens or corrupt childfucking Jersey trash senators, they don’t really care about any of this shit

    but i admit they couldn’t have thought up “global warming” or “tax expenditures” on their own

    they’re just tools for others to employ

    but very dangerous tools

  84. But geez, surely you would admit that the media against which we all have to fight is composed of sheep, of mere ‘followers’ who have not had an original thought in their entire lives?

    If he admits that, he’ll have to reconsider most of his own opinions.

  85. But I can’t be too upset at Mr. Rove neither. Worst he seems to wanna do is push back against the burgeoning Republican fondness for nominating unelectable fruitloop candidates like the Todd Akin.

    It’s an alarming trend and even though Mr. Rove’s efforts are most surely too little and way way way too late, he ain’t gonna hurt nothing.

    Demonstrable horseshit, every last word of it. They are actively targeting Steve King, who was one of the few who early on identified ways for the House to block ObamaCare implementation.

    People who live like johns shouldn’t go around calling other people whores.

  86. that’s not to say Steve King is a winning Senate candidate

    Rove says this Steve King might could have an Akin problem … is it not possible that he does indeed have an Akin problem?

    I don’t think people are very enthusiastic to vote for Akin problem candidates, and I think the evidence of this from the 2012 elections is very compelling on this point.

    Therefore I propose that this Steve King be carefully vetted in the primary process and that an Able Challenger be cultivated to ensure a Healthy Competition for the nomination.

  87. King’s only problem is that people like you vote Republican.

  88. Therefore I propose that this Steve King be carefully vetted in the primary process and that an Able Challenger be cultivated to ensure a Healthy Competition for the nomination.

    Of course. It’s the only way to get winners like Romney!

  89. What do Rove and the little yellow rat have in common?

    1) They pretend to be conservative.
    2) They hang out with conservatives.
    3) They don’t really like actual conservatives.
    4) They go out of their way to marginalize and antagonize actual conservatives.
    5) They fixate on candidates who hold socially conservative beliefs, and fixate on those beliefs, ignoring all areas (fiscal, foreign policy, separation of powers, size of gov’t, etc.) where their beliefs are congruent.
    6) They mock social conservatives and make fun of conservative arguments on social issues, belittling and attacking the players instead of addressing the arguments in good faith, or just agreeing to disagree.
    7) They attack candidates who look bad in the media, instead of attacking a media who go out of their way to make candidates look bad.
    8) They can’t understand why actual conservatives don’t welcome them.

    I’m guessing that hippyfeet has a long and distinguished career waiting for him with the Conservative Victory Project what isn’t conservative and hasn’t seen victory in a very long time.

  90. 1) F
    2) T
    3) F
    4) F
    5) T
    6) T
    7) F
    8) T

  91. Speaking of the SMoD, cranky-d…

  92. At least three of chirpyfeet’s answers are lies.

  93. run run run as fast as you can you can’t catch me i’m the stinky cheese man

  94. 5a) they do this while claiming the areas of accord (as, e.g. the so-called fiscal issues) are the only issues that really matter.

  95. 5a) T

  96. Problem is happyfeet, all the fiscal problems are directly tied to social issues. In other words, free love ain’t.

    You keep telling us we have no business telling other people how to live, and totally ignore that giving license to irresponsibility is what has resulted in tens of trillions of dollars (that’s with 13 zeros) of debt and hundreds of trillions of dollars (14) in unfunded liabilities, sunk into social programs by the government. All because, who wants to be a social con and say “no”? Very un-hip. Very. And you gotta be a racist, homophobic bigot, xenophobic, heartless, greedy, hypocrite christer on the edge of violence, to say “no”.

    Where do you think the biggest government expenses are? Are you willing to cut entitlements and, for example, tell young mothers on welfare there is no more, go talk to the baby-daddy? If you’re not willing to do that, you aren’t going to make any fiscal improvement. If you are, and have given a moment of thought to what system needs to address the problem of fatherless children, instead of the expectation of dependence on the state, then you are a social con, welcome.

  97. Lee, do me a favor and save this excellent rant for my pal newrouter when he gets on his hobby-horse about “ain’t nobody gonna tell me how to do nothin’”.

    Thanks.

  98. Are you willing to cut entitlements and, for example, tell young mothers on welfare there is no more, go talk to the baby-daddy?

    yes we should do this yesterday

    plus people should be more responsible

    but i do not see how banning the abortions will help with the fatherless problems

    also, gay marriage is cool plus also it’s the future

    but mostly I don’t buy into the holistic social con Unified Economic Theory – I think it’s contrived but I can’t explore that now for lack of time

  99. Are you willing to cut entitlements and, for example, tell young mothers on welfare there is no more, go talk to the baby-daddy?

    yes we should do this yesterday
    plus people should be more responsible
    but i do not see how banning the abortions will help with the fatherless problems

    Raising the cost of casual sex helps people be more responsible.

    but mostly I don’t buy into the holistic social con Unified Economic Theory – I think it’s contrived but I can’t explore that now for lack of time

    You think, or you feel?

  100. no… having responsible casual sex makes people more responsible

    you have to be a good role model for them

  101. but i do not see how banning the abortions will help with the fatherless problem

    i do not see how you don’t like letting the states decide whether abortion should be allowed?

  102. i love it but it’s not an option

  103. but mostly I don’t buy into the holistic social con Unified Economic Theory – I think it’s contrived but I can’t explore that now for lack of

    …a coherent thought in your chirpy little head.

  104. “and so should be supported in the final extremity to avoid A”

    Nope. Done with that. I was done with that after McCain, actually.

    I like what I’ve seen of Paul II so far.

  105. i love it but it’s not an option

    overturning roe isn’t an option?

  106. Gay ‘marriage’ isn’t marriage. Even the French are against it.

  107. I like what I’ve seen of Paul II so far.

    Me too. So far, he’s the leader of the pack.

  108. that is so unfair Mr. McGehee is a very busy day

    i have lots more things to do in this new job than in the old one so you’ll have to learn to moderate your expectations about what I can be expected to contribute

  109. As a fetal graduate, I find myself desiring to give the helpless little buggers a hand whenever feasible. Even in the face of fetal graduates who shouldn’t have survived the cut themselves.

  110. gay marriage rocks the fucking casbah everybody I know LOVES it

  111. do me a favor and save this excellent rant for my pal newrouter when he gets on his hobby-horse

    Thanks, but if you have a problem with newrouter, that’s your problem. Me? Well, lets just say I’m unsurprised when a bird shits on my car, and know raging at the sky is a waste of time.

    Life is too short to give an anonymous internet commenter even one extra heartbeat of stress.

    Which brings me to happyfeet.

    It isn’t about banning abortions or accepting such a thing as SSM. It’s about allowing those who choose poorly to suffer the consequences of their irresponsibility and/or choices. Instead of government, they will have to turn to other resources; family, church, friends, like that. This will strengthen the family and tighten the bonds of communities instead of what we have now, an ever expanding government dominating an ever increasing portion of our lives, because too many people now think the government is the be all/end all resource to life’s problems.

    It’s like the school lunch thing, for another example. Parents give responsibility to the state for feeding their kids, then complain they aren’t doing it right. They shouldn’t be doing it at all!

  112. It’s about allowing those who choose poorly to suffer the consequences of their irresponsibility and/or choices. Instead of government, they will have to turn to other resources; family, church, friends, like that.

    i love that and I think abortion is one resource and your gay husband or wife should be another

    how hard is that

    what i believe is we should honor all Americans for their right to pursue their happiness in their own way

  113. think abortion is one resource

    How about late term abortion on demand? No?

    YOU WANT TO BAN ABORTION!!

    And if a gay man introduces me to his lesbian wife, I’ll be gracious, I promise. Don’t mean the Boy Scouts have to make him scout leader though…

  114. late term abortion on demand is just so tacky

    at that point you really should just go the adoption route I think

    oh and don’t get me started on the boy scouts thing

  115. i didn’t sh&t on anybody’s car. that’s an #occupy thing

  116. Life is too short to give an anonymous internet commenter even one extra heartbeat of stress.

    True that. It was a great encapsulation was all I meant. I wasn’t asking for a White Knight.

  117. late term abortion on demand is just so tacky

    Some might even say murderous.

  118. gay marriage rocks the fucking casbah everybody I know LOVES it

    That’s because everyone you know is an attention whore.

  119. you do not offer a shred of evidence for this claim

    why should i believe you?

  120. i didn’t sh&t on anybody’s car. that’s an #occupy thing

    Birds will be birds, and anonymous internet comments are what they are. And there have been times I’ve found you foul.

  121. have been times I’ve found you foul.

    i think the u should be an o but what do i know being a fowl

  122. I notice that lately the “You don’t like ____? Don’t get one.” trope seems to never get applied to firearms.

    Which, knock me over with a feather.

  123. you’ll have to learn to moderate your expectations about what I can be expected to contribute

    Considering that my expectations of your contribution to any substantive discussion is a sub-zero quantity, moderating those expectations would involve expecting you to contribute more, not less.

    And that ain’t happening.

  124. Some responses on foreign policy grounds to Rand Paul’s speech I’ve run into, but not read in their entirety: VDH, Quin Hillyer, Continetti, Danielle Pletka (down the article), Tobin

  125. Thanks sdferr. I’m off to read up.

  126. tobin

    Paul placed himself clearly outside of the mainstream.

    as if he is being a tough advocate of a true conservative foreign policy, he has put himself even to the left of Barack Obama on Iran.

    tobin is a clown

  127. To the extent Tobin seems to see through the very phrases in Paul’s speech I cited upthread concerning the question of a decision to make war on Iran, or as Paul would have it, keep negotiation with Iran an operative resort, I think I’m with Tobin and not Paul. Though I don’t think it’s necessary to align Paul with regard to ObaZma’s incoherent strategy for this purpose, one way or the other.

  128. tobin’s prob is that he thinks the commentary crowd can reshape the muslim world. me bomb them and get out. islam is their curse.

  129. me neocon fail next idea

  130. It would perhaps be easier to conduct a foreign policy by means of bumperstickers, but I don’t think it’s going to be possible, given the cunning of our enemies, anytime in the near future.

  131. Tobin seems to see through the very phrases in Paul’s speech

    he didn’t like rand not wearing the same “rose colored glasses” as mr. tobin

  132. by means of bumperstickers,

    we win islam loses. me undermine sunni and shia and commie russia by pumping oil world wide.

  133. So more bumperstickers! It’s all good, just like print more money! That’ll fix it!

  134. So more bumperstickers!

    yes just like “islam: the cult of peace” thx w

  135. That’ll fix it!

    what needs fixed again?

  136. Most of the columns cited agree with what sdferr was saying yesterday and I have to say that after reading through all of them, I agree as well. Foreign Policy is a bit more complicated than a bumpersticker.

    Rand reads a little on the green side just now. He’ll improve with time and practice.

    And a fact-checker.

  137. Aside from Rand Paul, Dr. Ben Carson, who knows what’s what, and puts it to the people right up in the little dictator’s face.

  138. Foreign Policy is a bit more complicated than a bumpersticker.

    yes rovester is selling that domestically. it is all the rove.

  139. Dr. Carson is the man Obama wishes he could grow up to be.

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