January 11, 2013

“In Debate with Breitbart’s Shapiro, CNN’s Piers Morgan Calls the Constitution ‘Your Little Book’”

It’s who they are.  It’s what they do.

And yes, you may now question their patriotism.  Openly. And often.

Posted by Jeff G. @ 9:37am
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  1. Auto-play video with no way to stop it… aaagh!

  2. “Yes, Piers, we actually have a written constitution, unlike Britain where the whims of Parliament become iron-fisted law. That’s how you end up with moronic things like gun bans, Piers, by giving politicians too much leeway in the exercise of their delegated powers.”

  3. You know have two videos that start up when the page loads. Kind of annoying.

  4. The below the fold trick would work to solve the main page problem. The individual post problem is another matter.

  5. I can’t do it from the doctor’s office. Little help?

  6. Whoever invented autoplay should be drawn and quartered.

    Shapiro played it exactly right rhetorically, especially when he answered “why do you need an assault rifle?” with “to defend against a tyrannical gubmint.”

    I also would have accepted “to participate in the well-regulated militia.”

    He also did well to criticize Morgan’s argumentation methods in real time and to be unimpressed by the Reagan quote. He defanged Morgan on several fronts, as evidenced by Morgan’s initial “how dare you” that left Shapiro unruffled.

    Where he could have done better was to challenge the term “assault rifle” and to have known that Lanza did his shooting with the pistols, not the rifle. It also would have been awesome for him to make Morgan explain the difference between automatic and semi-automatic.

    Also missing: an acknowledgement that the current laws on the books already address the problem of crazies and felons, and that felons will always get guns even when they can’t buy them legally.

  7. I added an adblock filter to eliminate it.

  8. “You genuinely believe that your government will turn on you…”

    Hmm, let’s ask the Henry family that question, shall we?

  9. - I would have told him in his face that the “un-consitutional government” has always been a yoke of oppression around the Englishmans neck, and instead of trying to get others to join them in their misery they should have dethrowned the Empire 200 years ago.

    - We didn’t save their Limey asses from sure annialation by Adolph so they could pester us with their insufferable nonsense. What a poofer.

  10. I saw that actual Magna Carta at the British Library in London this past Spring. What is interesting is that most folks don’t know there were 4 different Magna Cartas before it actually stuck. The first, original Magna Carta of 1215 was rejected by the Church because it conflicted with the “divine right of Kings”. It was later reissued with alterations in 1216, 1217, and 1225 under threat of civil war.

    The US Constitution has been modified, but is basically the same for near two and a half centuries.

  11. btw, I disavow the crazee that is on the site I linked to, I didn’t know what else was on that site. It was the first place I found with the death toll for Waco. I’ll look around more thorougly before I link to such a site.

  12. btw, I disavow the crazee that is on the site I linked to, I didn’t know what else was on that site. It was the first place I found with the death toll for Waco. Next time I’ll look around more thorougly before I link to such a site.

  13. oy! and I’m not even drunk.

  14. Shapiro played it exactly right rhetorically, especially when he answered “why do you need an assault rifle?” with “to defend against a tyrannical gubmint.”

    I also would have accepted “to participate in the well-regulated militia.”

    That’s still only half the answer. The other half of the answer is “which is why it’s an affront to my liberty that I can’t have an assault rifle without going through an onerous and costly bureaucratic process designed to keep me from exericising my Second Amendment rights.”

  15. “You genuinely believe that your government will turn on you…”

    Vicki Weaver was unavailable for comment.

  16. And yes, you may now question their patriotism.

    That would be like questioning the lactating ability of a basking shark.

  17. I don’t believe my house is going to burn down or be flattened by a tornado someday either,

    but I still carry insurance.

  18. “why do you need an assault rifle?”

    “None of your damn limey business, you transoceanic poofter, and none of the government’s, either. The word ‘need’ appears nowhere in the Bill of Rights.”

  19. I like to answer that with “why does someone need a sports car?”

    For the performance!

  20. Why do you need a TV show to exercise your first amendment rights? The Founders surely never envisioned THAT.

  21. Should the door-to-door gun grab ever come about, one suggestion is for EVERYONE to say: “I will not surrender my weapons; you’ll have to arrest me.”

    Cloward-Piven in reverse.

  22. Piers (imperiously) : How dare you ?

    Ben (amused as if he is speaking to a manipulative middle school child use to always getting their way): You can keep saying that, but I’ve SEEN you do it multiple times.

    How could I make that wordier? Hmmm.

    ` Piers, You have repeatedly behaved very shamefully, manipulatively, and unfairly on this issue and yet you refuse to take any responsibility for it, and then you demand that I be ashamed instead for ever confronting you on this huge flaw in your personality and reasoning. How can I respect that or reward it? Why should I be intimidated by your predilection for such unseemly behavior? Why should I yield and grant you an advantage you neither deserve nor have the power to secure for yourself? You are utterly unworthy of the deference you demand and its time you heard it to your face with a twist of gentle mockery and dismissal of your crude illusion of intellectual or moral gravitas. Jumping around a lot won’t make me assume that there is any validity to the proceedings your kangaroo court. ‘

  23. “Ernst Schreiber says January 11, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    I like to answer that with “why does someone need a sports car?”
    For the performance!”

    Yes, but the real question is what does a non-pig that is less equal than some animals need with a sports car?

  24. Good for Ben. That really got under Piers’ hide when he said that about standing on the graves of dead children. He, Morgan, must have repeated it three times. He didn’t like being called a bully, either.

    I love it when our guys fight back. Go Ben!

  25. “Whoever invented autoplay should be drawn and quartered.”

    Autoplay is offensive because of how it is used, not merely for existing and being available for use in online media. Much like firearms.

  26. “That would be like questioning the lactating ability of a basking shark.”

    Milk? There’s no milk. We’re sharks! If your yolk’s gone then instead of whining, suck it up and eat your weaker brothers and sisters. Idiot.

  27. I tried to fix it by adding autoplay=”false” but that didn’t seem to work.

  28. “You genuinely believe that your government will turn on you…”

    They illegally forced gun owners to sell to straw purchasers for mexican gangs without telling Mexico about it or tracking the weapons in any way. The whistleblower on the case was fired. Over two hundred Mexicans, a celebrity singer, and a border agent died as a result of this. The justice department, with the help of the Whitehouse , then hushed it up and tried to blame it on Bush based on a false equivalence drawn between Fast and Furious and Gun Walker(where the guns were unsuccessfully tracked and which was shut down immediately when this was discovered). It was probably done to drum up support for gun control laws. Why aren’t YOU afraid that this government will turn on you?

  29. Man, what we couldn’t do with 20 or 30 more like Shapiro. He understands the fundamental truth: these people are not your friends, and it’s no use pretending. Train hard before the match, and go in swinging. Call out their shallow holier-than-thou indignation for what it is. Call out their substanceless personal attacks for what they are. Turn their own arguments against them.

    It was masterful.

  30. Autoplay is offensive because of how it is used, not merely for existing and being available for use in online media. Much like firearms.

    No, no: firearms have a valid use against them what need killin.

    Autoplay is the devil.

  31. That’s too funny, Ernst. I had also thought of the interview as Morgan’s “Jerk Store” moment.

  32. Piers Morgan interviews a man with a big hat from Texas and tries to paint him as a man who wants ALL TEACHERS ARMED AND TRAINED TO OPERATE AS AN URBAN ASSAULT FIRE TEAM and brings up the inevitable accidents trope. Then he tries to bring in AR-15′s as the universally hated barbed electrified cock of Ultimate King Mecha-Satan Kai.

    I think Slippery Slope might have been Piers Morgan. :)

  33. I think Slippery Slope might have been Piers Morgan. :)

    Suddenly, it all makes sense!

    Too funny.

  34. If he ever tires of our “gun culturah” he can move on to making fun of our table manners. A favorite fall-back position of Brits who aren’t upper crust in their own country but try to pass over here.

  35. I put some filings from a gun barrel into some nutrient agar but was unable to culture any gun tissue cells. My gun culture failed. Waste of a perfectly good petri dish.

  36. I am pretty sure my government had turned on me well before I was born.

    And I am kind of an old fucker.

  37. Nah. Scrape out the agar and keep the plates. You’re good.

  38. I will say THIS about Ben Shapiro. He is an enemy of the current gun-ban movement but he is no friend of the 2nd amendment despite trying to give it to Piers Morgan. Even he is dealing away our gun rights in his interview, just as a much slower rate.

    He doesn’t want 2nd hand sales or transfer of used guns without a background check. He’s okay with registration of gun sales as long as it is not made public. He wants laws to keep guns locked up or at least indicates that guns should be locked up (actually not a great policy for home defense if you anticipate someone breaking into the house when you have no warning of it). He also wants stricter background checks.

    He gives away our ground even as he points out the dishonest bullying tactic and smites the Morgan’s puffery and false outrage performance as laughable.

  39. Piers seriously underestimated Ben, didn’t he?

    Oh wait, that’s wrong, Piers seriously over-estimated himself.

    Must have been tough for Piers to have someone half his age show Piers up for the preening pompous ass that he is.

  40. Palaeomerus, good point, yeah, I didn’t like that either.

    If you allow government to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people government will just redefine crazy.

  41. Guns are very mysterious to the left. They are undefined mythical beasts like genies and leprechauns. Why they might be seem to be able to do ANYTHING if you use your imagination to explore your worries.

    The left view guns as the subject of a continuing thought experiment with no real rules: Schrödinger’s Gun : does it kill people or doesn’t it? We’ll never know unless we collapse the wave form via consensus as poisoned by rumor, misconceptions, stereotypes, and intuition!

  42. If you allow government to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people government will just redefine crazy.

    Most easily done “Catch 22″ style.

    If you desire to own a gun that proves you to be mentally unfit for gun ownership. If you don’t want to own a gun but are forced to have one due to your job’s requirements then you are fit to own one.

    Presto, only police, security guards and military will have guns. Problem solved.

  43. “We are all security guards now.”

  44. Piers is a Brit, and they can have the stupid dolt back.

    And I usually don’t question their patriotism. I deny it. Why ask a question when there really isn’t one?

  45. Piers lurves him some “little books” if they’re in Chinese and bound in Red.

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