November 30, 2012

Better not use the term “death panels” … [Darleen Click]

… that just marks you as an ignorant snowbilly engaged in teh raaaaacism

A British physician’s disturbing testimony is shedding light on the increasingly common practice of National Health Service (NHS) hospitals sending sick or severely disabled newborn babies home or to hospices to die of starvation or dehydration.

Newborn babies are being being placed on the Liverpool Care Pathway for end-of-life care, a system originally allotted and designed for elderly or terminally ill adults. That end-of-life care involves the removal of food and fluid tubes, a method which can take an average of ten days to result in death.

The Daily Mail reports an investigation is being launched to determine “whether cash payments to hospitals to hit death pathway targets have influenced doctors’ decisions.”

Posted by Darleen @ 7:25am
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  1. If they’re going to do that sort of thing, you’d think they could at least man-up and deliberately “put to sleep” the old, the young, the obese, the smokers, the AGW deniers, people who throw away recyclables in the regular trash, and anyone else they don’t like.

    I mean, death via starvation or dehyrdration? I wouldn’t (and didn’t) do that to any of my former dogs, for god’s sake. And if I was the sort of bastard who would, I’m sure the ASPCA would have a thing or two to say about the matter.

    “Nationalized Healthcare: For when you want to be treated worse than a dog.”

  2. we have to have death panels or obamacare will take every last dollar we make

    this is what america voted for

  3. Baby, fetus, whatever. If it’s going to be an inconvenience to the mother because of its defects (do fathers get a “choice” after birth?) it’s the more humane thing to do, amiright? I’m sure that 9 days of starvation and dehydration don’t hurt a bit. Then again, they may need that ‘lil bed sooner, so maybe something more aggressive is in order…
    ————
    This is barbaric. And, sadly, not at all surprising.

  4. Happyfeet – Just to be clear: you’re saying it’s OK to kill people in order to save the state money? It’s OK for a doctor, any doctor, to decide which lives have value and which ones don’t?

  5. This is barbaric. And, sadly, not at all surprising.

    ____________________________________

    No. You can do this to a dog or cat, right? Oh, wait.

  6. I don’t think he’s saying it’s okay at all. Merely that it’s the system our neighbors voted for. I just pray that they get the opportunity to experience the fruits of their foolishness, good and hard.

  7. Libby, ‘feets is being sarcastic, as usual:

    The government you elect is government you deserve. – Thomas Jefferson

    People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.
    – H.L. Mencken

  8. The Brits are getting it good and hard alright. According to an October Telegraph article: http://tinyurl.com/dx2n2ra
    “At many hospitals more than 50 per cent of all patients who died had been placed on the pathway and in one case the proportion of forseeable deaths on the pathway was almost nine out of 10. ”

    The LCP differs from the US concept of doctor-assisted suicide in that the doctor can put the patient on the pathway without their consent (if they’re unconscious, etc.) and without the knowledge or consent of the patient’s family. Further, hospitals set targets for use of the pathway, and can earn monetary rewards from NHS for reaching their target. Seeing how the late-term abortion justification of “for the mother’s health” has become meaningless here in the US, one has to wonder how flexible that “severely disabled” definition is when it comes to putting newborns on the pathway.

  9. At many hospitals more than 50 per cent of all patients who died had been placed on the pathway and in one case the proportion of forseeable deaths on the pathway was almost nine out of 10.

    Hospitals as abattoirs. Nice.

    RENEW! RENEW!

  10. Remind me again how peaceful reform will work.

  11. Hospitals as abattoirs. Nice.

    My grandpop used to steer clear of Hospitals because “you go to the hospital to die, boy.” He grew up in the depression era. Seems like a sage now.

    Seems part of the plan is to keep people from seeking medical services in the first place.

  12. My grandfather told my father the same thing. “People die in hospitals.”

  13. Speaking of treating animals better: A labrador with a rare heart malformation is to undergo a human heart surgery in a top Paris hospital.
    The UK owner is unemployed, and “despite the doctor’s offer to waive payment, the operation will still cost 3,000 euros to conduct as ‘the only technique that can save him uses cutting-edge technology and so is very costly,’ said the Society for Protection of Animals.” The SPA will pay 70% and the rest will be funded using Facebook campaign donations.
    Time for a Society for the Protection of Humans?
    http://tinyurl.com/d3sdek2l

  14. Note how much cheaper the dog’s operation will be than it would be for a human. That’s what over-regulation has brought us.

  15. Letting someone starve to death now falls under the category “End-of-life care.” More like the lack thereof. But, hey, it’s free for everyone!

  16. The surgeries are one cost, but its the after care that can be astronomical. My son was in the NICU for 3 1/2 weeks, and for the first few days it was over $7,000/day for a dedicated nurse (and note: his heart surgery cost less than his delivery and the initial daily NICU fee). It was less expensive when he transitioned off of the dedicated nurse, but they really get you with what they charge for each pill, xray, feeding tube insertion, etc. The recent Reason TV video on the cash-only surgery center explained that billing practice well.

  17. The ASPCA was originally called the ‘ociety for the Protection of Children and Animals or somesuch, Libby. I know that children were included in the original associations’s charter.

  18. Throw this ‘S’ up there

  19. “”Everybody Knows”

    Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
    Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
    Everybody knows that the war is over
    Everybody knows the good guys lost
    Everybody knows the fight was fixed
    The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
    That’s how it goes
    Everybody knows
    Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
    Everybody knows that the captain lied
    Everybody got this broken feeling
    Like their father or their dog just died

    Everybody talking to their pockets
    Everybody wants a box of chocolates
    And a long stem rose
    Everybody knows

    Everybody knows that you love me baby
    Everybody knows that you really do
    Everybody knows that you’ve been faithful
    Ah give or take a night or two
    Everybody knows you’ve been discreet
    But there were so many people you just had to meet
    Without your clothes
    And everybody knows

    Everybody knows, everybody knows
    That’s how it goes
    Everybody knows

    Everybody knows, everybody knows
    That’s how it goes
    Everybody knows

    And everybody knows that it’s now or never
    Everybody knows that it’s me or you
    And everybody knows that you live forever
    Ah when you’ve done a line or two
    Everybody knows the deal is rotten
    Old Black Joe’s still pickin’ cotton
    For your ribbons and bows
    And everybody knows

    And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
    Everybody knows that it’s moving fast
    Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
    Are just a shining artifact of the past
    Everybody knows the scene is dead
    But there’s gonna be a meter on your bed
    That will disclose
    What everybody knows

    And everybody knows that you’re in trouble
    Everybody knows what you’ve been through
    From the bloody cross on top of Calvary
    To the beach of Malibu
    Everybody knows it’s coming apart
    Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
    Before it blows
    And everybody knows

    Everybody knows, everybody knows
    That’s how it goes
    Everybody knows

    Oh everybody knows, everybody knows
    That’s how it goes
    Everybody knows

    Everybody knows

  20. wolfie773,

    Letting someone starve to death now falls under the category “End-of-life care.”

    The government bureaucracy that ensures those patients “get what they deserve” goes by the acronym N.I.C.E.

    I kid you not.

  21. Have I mentioned that it would behoove all of us to make friends with medical professionals, so that we might receive a modicum of care and advice outside of the system?

    Oh, I have? Sorry — never mind, then.

  22. “The government bureaucracy that ensures those patients “get what they deserve” goes by the acronym N.I.C.E.”

    Yeah. I keep expecting Mr. Steed and Ms. Peel to kick a smarmy, nehru jacket wearing bad guy in the face and put an end to that. The UK is a sad fucking place and here we are following them into darkness and orwellian atrocity.

  23. I once swore I’d become an evil genius, just for the opportunity to have Ms. Peel kick me in the face.

  24. C.S. Lewis was a prophet. (See That Hideous Strength.)

  25. CS Lewis and HG Wells eternally fighting for modern men’s souls long after their deaths..at least until that creepy Meyer woman came along and wrote the Stupidity Wank Bible.

  26. Have I mentioned that it would behoove all of us to make friends with medical professionals, so that we might receive a modicum of care and advice outside of the system?

    And remember a couple of days ago when I pointed out that medical professionals who do anything for friendship can be prosecuted for taking bribes as govmint employees? And so can their friends?

  27. Yes and you are right, SDN. The only way out of this is to repeal Obamacare.

    Is the SCOTUS going to give it another hearing? I thought it was mentioned a few days ago.

  28. On the “religious liberty” front, I believe, yeah.

  29. I pointed out that medical professionals who do anything for friendship can be prosecuted for taking bribes as govmint employees? And so can their friends?

    welcome to the underground si senor?

  30. Thanks, Spiny.

  31. this one

    Steely Dan “Barrytown”

    my allen fight here

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