March 5, 2012

It’s official – ObamaBots want opposing political speech banned [Darleen Click]

via The White House

direct the FCC to investigate Rush Limbaugh for biased and distorted news and for making intimidating statements

On February 29 and March 1, 2010, Rush Limbaugh broadcast biased and distorted news commentary as well as intimidating statements about an individual, Sandra Fluke.

On the air, he called Fluke a “slut” and a prostitute in response to Congressional testimony regarding contraception. The next day he aired these intimidating remarks:

“If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch.”

In addition, this language, directed at a specific individual, meets the Supreme Court test for obscenity: it appeals to prurient interest, it depicts offensive sexual conduct (peeping Toms) and it lacks serious literary, artistic or political value.

Posted by Darleen @ 6:47pm
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  1. Looks like anybody can sign up and create a petition to the White House there….

  2. I prefer Iowahawk’s petition demanding Mr Obama resign http://wh.gov/XB2

    Of course, you know it will be taken down…

  3. true, bmoe but

    what does it say that a White House website doesn’t moderate itself?

  4. The next day he aired these intimidating remarks:

    “If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch.”

    That would only be intimidating to someone who doesn’t know how to say “No.”

    [...]

    Oh.

  5. So far 315 people have signed it in 4 days, or less than 80 people per day. Let’s keep an eye on how many sign.

  6. Here’s how I look at it.

    Dear President Obama. I care nothing whatsoever for someone’s quest for free birth control through government intervention despite the cheesy attempt to disguise it as increasing access to birth control or defending women in a war supposedly declared against them by politicians who so far haven’t even brought birth control up in their campaigning until you did. I really don’t much care who Rush Limbaugh calls a slut or why. Adults can handle stuff like that and don’t need the president and his officers and advocates to swoop in and save them from bad words.

    I just saw gas hit $3.98. I need gas. you slowed down oil exploration and recovery and spent a lot of out tax money on bum tech like solar panels and wind farms. Apparently you also want to build high speed trains. I do not need a tire gauge or algae or to eat my peas. I do not need to face hard change. I need cheaper gas. Can you handle even that?

    We did what you recommended in 2008 and yet unemployment is still very high. You are increasing taxes on the people who might hire new employees if they could afford to. You are also adding huge healthcare costs on top of that to encourage people to join a public alternative plan. Why? The HMO system came from Ted Kennedy. Why is your party finding it necessary to reform their own previous necessary reforms ? Why do your solutions never work the way you say they will? Why are they always so complicated and expensive on top of being ineffective ?

    Anyhoo, for now, let’s just look at the gas and high taxes and the overspending. Fix that. Do it quickly. You’ve had three years and you’ve wasted them on bloated crony pay offs and failed projects and extra judicial bail out bankruptcy horror shows. You’ve wasted them calling me an idiot and a racist because I expect more form you than inflated promises, platitudes, and a third grader’s grasp of macroeconomics. You’ve wasted them telling unions that you’ll look the other way if they threaten me, kick my ass, or break my stuff.

    So, fix that or I will decide that YOU are the problem and I will vote to fix YOU in november. And by fix you I mean send you home to Chicago where the consequences of any administrative incompetence you get behind will hopefully stay local and not bother me. You make Newt, Santorum, even Romney look pretty good. But Ron Paul still seriously creeps me out with his blame-america foreign policy talk and his odd demands for a new unspecified hard currency. I’m sad to say that even with Ron Paul and you it’s kind of 50/50.

    Thanks dude.

  7. We be in a war, homies. Mark the NH Primary as the date that the Left started the official campaign, with the Rush Offensive as their Sept. 1, 1939.
    What came to me over the weekend is how much battle-space prep they have done. Imagine, a college student/President of the “Institute for Reproductive Justice” being given a scholarship to go to Georgetown Law for the specific purpose of challenging its health insurance coverage. How many other 5th Columns are out there?
    This election is make-or-break for them. They were shellacked in 2010; if they don’t re-elect Obama, it is a national smack-down of their agenda. They can only win by silencing the opposition and cowing anyone pointing out the Emporer’s New Clothes economy. They have to fall back on contraception, women’s rights, gay rights, etc. because they lose on the big issues.
    I expect that every week from now to November there will be a new outrage to keep up the distraction. And it has all been carefully scripted. Summer is going to be Chicago ’68 on Twitter and steroids.

  8. Red, isn’t the WH treading into Bill of Attainder territory with this petition? I think the vilification of the Koch brothers falls there, as well.

  9. >>> ” In addition, this language, directed at a specific individual, meets the Supreme Court test for obscenity: it appeals to prurient interest, it depicts offensive sexual conduct (peeping Toms) and it lacks serious literary, artistic or political value.” >>>

    Nope. It’s satire. That means automatic artistic value. Also Anthony Weiner recently sent someone an unsolicited a picture of his dick pushing up under his boxers on Twitter which was not viewed as obscene or a peeping tom, just in poor taste and an indication of bad character. So that petition is just dumb. Obama’s supporters post a lot of dumb petitions.

  10. A leftie on another board I frequent wondered how oh how Obama might lower the price of gas.

    I suggested he create a gasoline insurance and mandate everyone must buy it.

  11. Why are they all wee-weed up over something that happened in 2010, is what I’d like to know.

  12. Cardinal Timothy Dolan’s letter of March 2, 2012 to the Bishops of the U.S.

  13. Nice, sdferr. I’ll send it around.

  14. leigh, the White House don’t need no steenkin’ rules like worrying about Bills of Attainder. I’m trying to remember when a WH so nakedly villified various enemies.

  15. ” B Moe says March 5, 2012 at 7:40 pm
    A leftie on another board I frequent wondered how oh how Obama might lower the price of gas.

    I suggested he create a gasoline insurance and mandate everyone must buy it.”

    1.) Temporarily lower or abolish federal gas tax.

    2.) Reconsider Keystone project

    3.) Open more territory for domestic exploration/drilling

    4.) Eliminate requirements for special blends

    5.) Approve more refineries

    6.) Stop with the damned ethanol additive bullshit

  16. the “libertarians” are not your friends

    newrouter says:

    I always look to people who use juvenile language like “proggtards” to guide me as to what arguments are coherent.

    good allan a big gov’t thing is offended. keep your stupid proggtard hands off my health care and that women’s ovaries.

    [EV says: I have just banned commenter newrouter. Folks, any substantive point you want to make can be made politely, without pointless personal insults.]

    link

  17. What’s wrong with proggtard? I like epithets, personally. Though I do try to put them into complete sentences and to insert an SAT word or two in order to soften the edges. You might try that, NR. ;-)

  18. Maybe Volokh is a secret capitalizationist-punctuationalist bigot? heh

  19. Eugene Volokh says:

    Folks: As I noted in an edit to one of his comments above, I’ve banned newrouter. Please feel free to express your substantive views, but express them politely and without pointless personal insults.

    link

    see you are not allowed to attack statists in the “libertarian” legal world. hey us lawyers and professors rely on the status quo.

  20. Gee, Red and here I was thinking the Bills of Attainder are actually verboten in the USC. Like, it’s written into it and all. Live and learn, I guess.

  21. Volokh is more liberal than libertarian. I’ve never been able to stand him.

  22. well it is interesting to observe proggtards arguing catholic faith without a clue as to what that is.

  23. kinda like rush. tell these losers what you really think about their “opinions” – banned

  24. The Catholic Church really has no one to blame but themselves. I mean, really, what’s even Catholic about Georgetown anymore? I have a lot of friends and acquaintances – including an ex-girlfriend – who went there, and maybe half of them are Catholic.

    My hometown was largely Catholic and we could all see our parents’ faith dwindling because the priests and nuns they grew up with were such shits. They passed an at least nominal antipathy down to us and now, with the next generation coming of age, the the parish school is now a Korean art and music academy. Similar things are happening all over the place.

  25. I just saw gas hit $3.98.

    sheesh … the gas station near my house that I pass on my way to work was $4.33/gal today.

    I shudder to think what it will be come Memorial Day.

  26. Damn, Abe. Can’t even blame Sir Francis Bacon?

  27. Sir Francis Bacon never told me that I was evil and going to hell for throwing a cookie at someone, sdferr.

  28. Well, sure, but there is still a bigger assed old world out there in a mean competition with the church for takers/buyers. That is to say, relative abundance may have an external effect on folks, bleeding over into their spiritual lives, whether they realize it or not.

  29. because the priests and nuns they grew up with were such shits.

    yea i had a 3rd grade nun big into india. ’68-’80 downfall. good news: 2008 hope and change.

  30. it is interesting that the Proff EV couldn’t relay to me any concern. Oh noes the ban stick. Perhaps he had some help from charles johnson. oh well the “legal” community will get theirs sometime soon. yes precedence only works in a stable environment.

  31. Elections maatter.

  32. Hopefully spelling does not count.

  33. That’s true, sdferr. But what I’m getting at is that the Catholic Church is all over the place. Smugly self-righteous and moralistic on the one hand, haphazardly leftist on the other. And when you add in a pull toward the secular -as evidenced by the enrollment composition of their schools,- you don’t really stand for anything with the kind of force that inspires anyone to fear fucking with you.

  34. I get you Abe, and agree with you that, so far as I can see the sweep, the church hasn’t done itself any favors on the political front here in the USA. Which, on consideration, is kind of strange, given the extraordinary intention of Christianity in the first place, no? I mean, it simply isn’t an easy row to hoe, nor has ever been, so it’d seem as though a few centuries of resistance would have strengthened the church’s capacities in that regard, rather than diminished them. It’s like: “What? You fuckers haven’t figured this out yet?”

  35. I don’t know about the smugly self-righteous part so much Abe, but I agree completely with the by-and-large haphazardly leftist characterization. Unfortunately, some time in the 60′s, the Catholic Church Kum-baya’d themselves into a Faustian bargain with the government; all in the hopes of advancing social justice.

    What’s astonishing about it all is that several Popes have called out socialism, communism, and the whole “liberation theology” heresy directly. Unfortunately, American Catholics were too busy Kum-baya-ing, and wondering why the American Catholic church couldn’t alter dogma to match the rapidly changing social mores.

    Many folks have used the scandals of the 90s as an excuse to leave the fold, so to speak, but really that’s all it is-an excuse. People have been concerned about flagging membership since the time of St Augustine :)

    And also, there’s a large measure of what sdferr referred to, along with pop-culture pressures; some domestic, and others imported from Europe ever since the “God is dead” philosophers first opined.

    But you are correct about one primary reality; it’s the corruption of men that have ruined the gravitas of church pronouncements, and not any shortcoming of the faith itself…

    My Regards

  36. Oh, I left out one finer point. American Catholics were seduced by the notion of a society that revolved around the ephemeral notion of “social justice”. They were seduced by what were all billed as “things Jesus would do/applaud/approve of”.

    But they forgot several points. 1) Christ always stressed the free-will embrace of the faith and adherence to it’s tenets. 2) He never once advocated imposing His wishes on others via governance. 3) When he spoke about the obligation to serve and aid others, he was speaking of a personal obligation; a virtue lost if it’s done by using other people’s resources…

    As I said, it was a Faustian bargain no matter how pure the intent with which it was undertaken…

  37. Sir Francis Bacon never told me that I was evil and going to hell for throwing a cookie at someone, sdferr.

    I’m going to have to agree with the verdict, there. Throwing cookies is right next to Blasphemy Against The Holy Ghost.

  38. Yeah, I have no idea how my experiences with the church – both personally and anecdotally – translate to the church as a whole. Though Notre Dame fans irritate the hell out of me with their smug douchebaggery, so that’s one for my theory.

  39. It started before the 60s Bob.

    And the Democrat party was the natural home to Catholics until at least the 1980s.

  40. Cookies are holy gifts after all, so it’s not as though the punishment isn’t warranted.

  41. It wasn’t a freshly-baked cookie, more like a Chips Ahoy type deal. They’re easier to throw, but that’s part of why they’re not holy, I’m thinking.

  42. Quite right Ernst. A better characterization would have been that the 60′s saw a quickening of the phenomenon.

    But over the years that hasn’t been any shortage of Catholic clergy denouncing socialism and communism. Though, as I said, it’s always been the acts of men, in the name of the church, that’s been the problem and not the tenets of the faith itself.

  43. it’s the corruption of men that have ruined the gravitas of church pronouncements, and not any shortcoming of the faith itself…

    They’ve been ruining it for a very long time.

  44. Just be careful where you aim your Oreos.

  45. so catholics make a stand. now we “resist we much”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqQe4KOrvsM

    you go grrl

  46. I don’t think I consider Chips Ahoy a cookie anyhow. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever had one pass my lips, so absolution in that case shouldn’t be a problem. Real cookies, on the other hand, are made for eating.

  47. With the birth control threads:

    jcp370 says:

    Ummm…..isn’t this a law blog?

    Can someone tell me why the myriad of Official Volokh Law Bloggers who are always willing to offer detailed legal opinions on everything related to matters of law are *crickets* on this?

    Granted it seems almost too easy but you’d think they’d do a little more than repeatedly throw this issue out there and let the regular cast of miscreants bloviate.

    Bueller? Bueller?

    Volokh is trolling for hits it seems.

  48. Chips Ahoy make a passable hot cereal but even there plain graham crackers or even sugared soda crackers beat them.

    As cookies they are hockey pucks.

  49. Chips Ahoy are an unblessed cookie as far as I can taste.

    Christianity, not just the Catholic church, has been under enormous pressure over the last few generations( I’m speaking of the congregants more than the clergy) Not just the secular hostility it’s experienced, but the incredibly busy culture we have. There’s so much worldly pleasure to experience, seeking spiritual peace is unappreciated and forgotten.

    It’s a great shortcoming of man that while it’s said there are no atheists in a foxhole, our Creator is rarely toasted at a party.

    Also, as Bob explained, it don’t help when the clergy serves causes instead of teaching spiritual truths.

  50. You should’ve thrown some graham crackers instead.

  51. Wouldn’t throwing graham crackers risk cutting someone’s eye out, nevermind that they eat perfectly fine?

  52. Is there is a schism in the Chicago Crew? Bill Daley leaves on the day he submits his resignation letter against plans to stay until the Fall and against the President’s specific ask to stay very temporarily. Later Daley disses Obama in praising Plouffe, breaking Omerta. The Team responds. All the riots, half the revenue.

    Sounds like a chink in the armor to me. Bill Daley, if you are reading this, your dad would know what to do with these damn hippies. Give us something.

  53. Think of winning the Cold War without the active participation of pope John Paul II.

  54. newrouter, how does your crusade against the overly-exposed scandal of Catholic clergy pederasty do anything to progress the meme of replacing the currrent CiC? Do you really believe that picking the scabs off these old wounds will bring us, as a nation, closer to the constitutional government that we all aspire to? Or, are you just trying to undermine the unity we have been working to achieve, which make me question, “Who’s side are you really on?”

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  56. I made a brief post on my FB page that when it comes to abortion, liberals want the government out of their uterus but when its about contraception, they want government all up in their uterus. This led to a heated argument with an ex’s sister on FB about the contraception thing, who says “its none of my business about birth control – a woman is the sole decider of birth control issues, apparently because woman have uteruses and I don’t- the irony is, she’s a Catholic who admitted she just “disregards” the Catholic Church’s prohibition on birth control. I’m a Protestant, in favor of both birth control and health insurance covering birth control, when its not in contrast to the religious affiliation or beliefs of the institution purchasing or facilitating the health insurance.

    Its amazing to me that to a liberal Catholic, the uterus is the most holy of sites and it trumps any beliefs or doctrine to the contrary. I commented that “disregarding” Catholic doctrine was the only way Nancy Pelosi could claim to be a “good Catholic” – she about lost it, as Nancy Pelosi is apparently her hero. And like most female liberals, when she starts losing the argument, she keeps trying to drive the discussion onto abortion and I will not bite.

  57. I made a brief post on my FB page that when it comes to abortion, liberals want the government out of their uterus but when its about contraception, they want government all up in their uterus.

    Oh, man. My most recent spate of marital discord happened when I asked my lovely bride if she was going to make a new picket sign, or just use some Wite-Out on her “Gov’t OuttaInto My Uterus NOW!” sign.

    One of the few occasions where I’ve been willing to back down from a principled argument…

  58. Eugene Volokh is a slut!

    Send me your sex tapes Eugene! NNGGEEEEAAAAHRRGH!!!

    Or something. It’s really not as funny when I typed as when I thought of it. Oh well. I hope I don’t lose any sponsors.

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  60. I am heartened that Iowahawk’s petition has doubled in signatures while the Rush petition has meanwhile limped its way to a thrilling 680.

  61. I want to put a petition on there to discourage donkey punching in bowling alley snack bars. Do that stuff at HOME folks. Sheesh.

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