February 7, 2012

SuperDuper (or decidedly unimportant, depending on who wins) Tuesday! open thread

I have my son’s wrestling awards banquet to go to this evening, but you all are welcome to hang here and gripe, cheer, whinny, whinge, exalt, extol, exhale, rejoice, rejoinder, regurgitate, &tc., over the results of the caucuses and primaries as they become clear.

Remember: Mitt Romney isn’t worried, and in fact he isn’t even trying in those states he may not win. So the results are unimportant.

— unless he does win. In which case it’s finally time for you “true believers” to soften your stances as rigid ideologues and help the GOP elect the well-groomed, well-spoken “pragmatist” who’s supported stimulus, TARP, Cap and Trade, gun control, an individual mandate, judicial appointments sold as a commitment to diversity, and the elevation of an administrative bureaucracy’s authority over and above religious protections supposedly held as sacrosanct by the First Amendment.

Whether that’s Romney or Obama who you’ll be helping to elect I leave it to you all to decide.

Posted by Jeff G. @ 4:37pm
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  1. Results from the contests aren’t expected until well into the night on the East Coast, as the caucus votes in Minnesota and Colorado don’t begin until 8 p.m. and 9 p.m. EST, respectively. Missouri’s polls will be open until 7 p.m. local time,

    link

  2. If they were holding the caucus at my local bar then I would be participating. As it is I will be drinking instead.

  3. Drinking sounds like a plan to me.

  4. Let’s see … RI’s foregone conclusion of a primary is April 24. His Inevitableness will be coronated by then, so I can vote for anyone I damn well please, with absolutely no effect on the outcome. Cranky and McGhee, where will you be drinking?

  5. “I can vote for anyone I damn well please, with absolutely no effect on the outcome. “

    Shows how much you know. Not voting for anyone is a vote for one of them; which one that is depends on the person you’re talking to and their preference. I think there’s a formula…

  6. And yet for all the oddities of their personal lives, there is the side of the Nazis that seems normal. Many Nazi officials came from the educated middle class of German society, and in his comments on the trial of Einsatzgruppen members in Nuremberg after the war, the British historian Gerald Reitlinger (author of The SS, Alibi of a Nation, a superb study of the SS) observed of the defendants that “the only common denominator was that nearly all had been to a university and the majority had achieved the doctorate so dear to the German middle class.” The idea of Nazi intellectuals may be troubling to some, but as has long been known, intellectuals rose to power in the systems of both fascism (meaning both Nazi Germany and Mussolini’s Italy) and the Leninist-Stalinist version of communism. Hitler and Stalin required the talents of writers, organizers, and, yes, artists to accomplish their ends.

    link

  7. McGehee, with the way things are going, drinking will no longer be just a plan, it will be a lifestyle.

    RI Red, because you didn’t ask, I drink Guinness with a shot of Jameson, neat, on the side. I had a heathen bartender in Las Vegas serve me Guinness in a plastic cup, once. And, horrors, the Jameson was served the same way. Still went down smooth, though. I did ask forgiveness from the booze gods, though.

  8. Y’all are gonna have to switch to cheaper booze if you’re going to make a lifestyle out of it.

  9. Mmmm, Guinness! However, Blake, I am convinced by the CDC that red wine will let me live a few minutes longer than otherwise. And it’s the Government telling me this. Who am I to question authority?

  10. Leigh, between my income and lines of credit, I can get in a lot of serious drinking before I have to hit the cheaper stuff. Heck, there’s always the possibility of drinking myself into bankruptcy. Which would give me a chance to start all over with the good stuff.

    RI Red, by volume, it takes a lot more wine than whiskey to really tie one on.

    If I’m heading there, I’m all for making the journey quickly.

  11. And leigh, if you are going to survive in style the coming zombie apocalypse/Mad Max future, you’d best be fermenting some of that corn/grain/potatoes.

  12. Blake, I intend to sit on my porch sipping red wine for a long time, watching the apocalypse go down. That way I don’t fall asleep and drop my eeeeevil black assault rifle.

  13. wash compost

    By Philip Rucker and Nia-Malika Henderson, Tuesday, February 7, 8:41 PM

    DENVER — Rick Santorum was poised for a breakthrough night on Tuesday in three contests that could provide a boost to the former Pennsylvania senator’s efforts to slow Mitt Romney’s march to the Republican presidential nomination.

    link

  14. CNN calls Missouri for Santorum.

  15. “1,718 of 3,134 Precincts Reporting | ? = Projected Winner | Delegates = Estimated Delegate Count
    Candidates Vote % Votes Delegates

    Rick
    Santorum 54% 77,233 0 ?

    Mitt
    Romney 25% 36,080 0

    Ron
    Paul 12% 17,095

    Read more: http://oaktree2.cbsnews.com/primary-election-results-2012/state.shtml?state=MO&tag=contentMain;contentBody#ixzz1lktOtiKu

  16. The radio today has been aglow with the mo’ for Rick in MO.

  17. Colorado early results have Santorum up.

  18. “Colorado

    Last Updated at 9:58 PM ET
    Republican Results

    Feb. 7, 2012 | Polls Close: 9:00 pm ET

    County Results »

    5 of 76 Precincts Reporting | ? = Projected Winner | Delegates = Estimated Delegate Count
    Candidates Vote % Votes Delegates

    Rick
    Santorum 50% 202 0

    Newt
    Gingrich 21% 87 0

    Mitt
    Romney 19% 77 0

    Ron10% 40 0
    Paul

    Read more: http://oaktree2.cbsnews.com/primary-election-results-2012/state.shtml?state=CO&tag=featuredRaceWrap;featuredRace#ixzz1lku1EBwJ

  19. Interesting aside: In MO, Obama is only getting 84.8% of the vote in the Dem Primary. 8.7 are uncommitted.
    […]
    UPDATE: 8:57: Santorum up to 55% in MO, Romney 24.*%. It’s going to be a blow-out.

    Uncommitted Dems surging to 9% in MO: Obama down to 83.7%

  20. “…gripe, cheer, whinny, whinge, exalt, extol, exhale, rejoice, rejoinder, regurgitate,”

    Jeff,
    Don’t you know you can not give kids that many choices?
    What kind of blogparent are you anyway?;)

  21. Minnesota

    Last Updated at 10:08 PM ET
    Republican Results

    Feb. 7, 2012 | Polls Close: 8:00 pm ET

    County Results »

    777 of 4,137 Precincts Reporting | ? = Projected Winner | Delegates = Estimated Delegate Count
    Candidates Vote % Votes Delegates

    Rick
    Santorum
    43% 4,738 0

    Ron
    Paul
    27% 2,983 0

    Mitt
    Romney
    17% 1,916 0

    Newt
    Gingrich
    12% 1,312 0

    Read more: http://oaktree2.cbsnews.com/primary-election-results-2012/state.shtml?state=MN&tag=contentMain;contentBody#ixzz1lkwYacAa

  22. So what does it mean if Mitt get’s wiped out? Is that worry-worthy at Camp Romney?

  23. Having a passably good relationdjip with local law enforcement, I pretty much have to drink at home unless I have a dedignated driver — and my wife is working an evening shift tonighg.

    Firefox for Android doesn’t have as aggressive an auto-correct function as Safari for iPhone, BTW.

  24. sez mittens suxs in the heartland

  25. go rick

  26. How big is the Santorum margin in Missouri?

    He is ahead in every precinct (most by double digits) that has reported.

  27. If Rick manages to win all three states, I’m sure that will be taken as an indicator of just how unserious CO, MO, and MN are, as states. *

    I mean, our betters in the Northest Corridor have already decided who the nominee is going to be. What, these uppity states think they’re better than everyone else, just up and voting for unapproved candidates as if they actually get a say in the matter. Who do they think they are?

    * Though in fairness, CO is home to at least one unrepentant Visigoth, and MN is notoriously unserious, what with the Jesse Ventura and the Al Franken. And the Hubert Humphrey.

  28. rick’s speech is really good

  29. Missouri is a bit of a bellweather in the general, yes?

  30. Similar results in
    MINNESOTA

  31. “CO is home to at least one unrepentant Visigoth”

    Could it be just a coincident that Rick Perry has one vote in Colorodo?

  32. Holy shit. Is this a Catholic juggernaut or what?

  33. or coincidence if you insist;)

  34. nor luap in red

  35. This looks like a pretty bad day to be Mitt Romney.

  36. fu karltherover

  37. Time for Newt to get out of the way it seems. [grin]

  38. It really is. South Carolina is going to vote for a Republican regardless. Time to consolidate the Catholic vote.

  39. So, Santorum’s won 5 states, Romney’s won 2 and Newt has won 1, amirite?

  40. I haven’t seen Karl Rove in months. Maybe longer.

    Fox stopped being on my list of channels when Brit Hume quasi-retired. Shep Smith? Please. O’Rly? No, thank you. Special Report? Catch the roundtable once a week maybe. Greta? Blech. Hannity? Can’t even take him on the radio.

    It’s the internet or bust for me now.

  41. And Romney’s third in Minn? Time to step aside.

  42. Catholics versus Mormons? The 5th column 4th estate is going to have a field day with that.

  43. So, Santorum’s won 5 states, Romney’s won 2 and Newt has won 1, amirite?

    Yes.

    Hey, here’s Geraghty via Twitter:

    Huge wins, big fundraising surge, great speech. Nothing could make this night better for Rick Santorum. Okay, maybe some delegates.

    Did I say the internet or bust? Okay, National Review Online doesn’t count as the internet anymore.

  44. It’s four states for Santorum if he win Colorado, but that’s still good enough. Meanwhile Newt’s got one, and Paul’s got none.

    Sounds like a two-man race to me.

  45. Just because we don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s not true bh.

  46. Yeah, wait, Romney has NH, FL, and NV.

  47. I’m alone in hearing the tone there then, Ernst?

  48. Has anyone from the GOP establishment sniffed on about Santorum’s unelectability yet this evening?

  49. Two earlier tweets:

    Winning huge in nonbinding contests is kind of like being undefeated in preseason football.

    Man, if the rest of the nomination battle consisted of nonbinding caucuses & primaries, Santorum would run away with this thing.

    The repetition makes it easy for me. Yeah, I’m reading something into this.

  50. No, that’s classic Geraghty snark from On High. Nevertheless, it’s a fact that Santorum didn’t win any delegates tonight. And that’s a crying shame, because a three-state sweep would have been a game changer.

    Still, small beginnings and all that.

  51. Okay, another two from earlier:

    No delegates at stake, but Wolf Blitzer sounds like he’s going to need to breathe into a paper bag any second now.

    The political world waits with palpable nonbinding suspense.

    Seems like Geraghty is trying to tell us something.

  52. Yeah, my math sucks. Santorum 4, Romney 3, Newt 1.

    Bye, Newt!

  53. Not that I’ve heard, Jeff. There’s a lot of shifting in their seats about Mr. Inevitable.

  54. And that’s a crying shame, because a three-state sweep would have been a game changer.

    News cycle-wise, it’s still a 3 state sweep and a sharp rebuke to Romney’s inevitability.

  55. sniffed on?

    I’m sorry that was not an option for this thread Mr!
    Ya can’t just change the rulez mid-thread.

  56. The big margins in places where Santorum can’t have much of a ground game are telling as well. Republican voters do not want a President Romney, despite being relentlessly told that he’s the best candidate to beat Obama. Especially while Obama seems hell bent on pissing off as many constituencies as he possibly can.

  57. I’d say qualified rebuke, because it will be qualified.

  58. What I’m saying is that if this was just snark, he killed the joke dead by the second use.

    After that? That’s Geraghty downplaying Santorum’s night just as this actual post predicts.

  59. That’s the thing about inevitableness what is inevitable. There is nothing that can be said or done to avert it or even to evit it. Rebuking it is just crazy talk.

  60. Get the feeling that had Romney won no delegates but swept the three states we’d be hearing a different tone from some of our chin-rubbing betters?

  61. Republican Results

    Feb. 7, 2012 | Polls Close: 9:00 pm ET

    County Results »

    20 of 76 Precincts Reporting | ? = Projected Winner | Delegates = Estimated Delegate Count
    Candidates Vote % Votes Delegates

    Rick
    Santorum
    44% 1,891 0

    Mitt
    Romney
    28% 1,187 0

    Newt
    Gingrich
    15% 666 0

    Ron
    Paul
    13% 552 0

    Read more: http://oaktree2.cbsnews.com/primary-election-results-2012/state.shtml?state=CO&tag=featuredRaceWrap;featuredRace#ixzz1llN5QXlN

  62. Has anyone from the GOP establishment sniffed on about Santorum’s unelectability yet this evening?

    Not that I’ve heard, though I was watching Justified. But then, I’m also listening to Krauthammer right now and not hearing that. He’s allowing that Rick may now be a formidable anti-Romney.

  63. What is with all this non-binding shit? I know MO will vote again, but the other two? Whassup?

  64. Pablo, the states that voted for notRomney are by definition non-binding. Because His Electable Inevitableness is inevitably electable. Everybody knows that, except those that claim not to, but they really do.

  65. Being inevitable is like being untouchable—it’s only true until it isn’t. Romney’s showing a lot of Charles Martin Smith.

  66. Get the feeling that had Romney won no delegates but swept the three states we’d be hearing a different tone from some of our chin-rubbing betters?

    On the contrary, I’ve been hearing the chin rubbers taking a second look at Santorum for a couple of weeks now. I expect that to continue. JenRube notwithstanding, of course.

  67. The FOX All-star panel looks stricken. They’ve begun pitching a scenario whereby Santorum’s supporters switch back to Newt in time for the delegates to be handed out in Missouri — which while possible, is really the kind of thing you’d expect at this point only if pictures surface of Santorum wearing a dog collar and banging a cabana boy.

  68. You know who else needs to step aside…again? Ron Paul.

  69. That would pull in the “moderates”, Jeff.

  70. Don’t give the Romney people ideas Jeff.

  71. Santorum has won 15 counties so far in Colorado to just one for Romney and one for Gingrich

    RT @NicholasTRyan Santorum poised to win every single county in Missouri.

    This kind of thing gets hard to spin.

  72. I personally don’t think it’s a given that Santorum’s vote goes to Newt. Some of it does, sure, but most of it probably splits between Romney, Paul and Zeeba.

  73. Quin Hilyer:

    tonight, it looks as if Santorum is achieving even bigger victories than anything Romney has achieved in any state anywhere. It looks like he is showing major staying power in the heartland. And he’s also four points up head-to-head vs. Barack Obama, while Romney is four points down and Newt Gingrich significantly below that.

    In short, Santorum is a real contender, perhaps even the front-runner (if he pulls an upset in Colorado on top of Minnesota and Missouri, he will have won four contests to four for Romney, despite spending about one-fiftieth of the money). This is exactly what was always a serious possibility. And it is consistent with most of Santorum’s career of beating the electoral odds and showing up te pundits who repeatedly write him off.

    [….] Rick Santorum has staying power. Others could have entered, and others (Jindal, Ryan, and others) could have filled the spot Santorum now is filling. Nobody else stepped up to the plate. Santorum isn’t afraid to take on a tough task. Never has been. He deserves some credit.

  74. Several other stations in the state were going to replay it later.

    The opponents went at each other for two hours, taking calls from listeners for the last 30 minutes, and at times both were talking so loud and at the same time that Devlin had to calm them down.

    They clashed on health care, each other’s records and who is less in agreement with his party.

    But they did refrain from calling each other liars.

    At one point, Santorum quoted directly from the health-care bill Wofford co-authored to make his point that Wofford supported a payroll tax for health- care reform and that it’s a government-run health-care plan.

    “Stop not telling the truth. Tell the truth,” Santorum said to Wofford. ”Is your bill a single-payer bill?”

    “No,” Wofford responded.

    “That’s not the truth,” Santorum said, his point being that Wofford supports government-run health care and he doesn’t.

    link

  75. Jeff,
    Was attending your son’s wrestling awards banquet cover for a covert operation designed to suppress the RINO vote in Denver?

  76. Now now Danger, the first rule of RINO voter supression club….

  77. RINOs suppress themselves. Witness, 2008, eg. But w/ the Denver votes coming in, we’ll see the margin narrow. That’s where your RINOs and frontrunner groupies congregate.

    By the way, the numbers we’re seeing tonight can’t be ignored: in Missouri, 138K people came out for Santorum in a vote that didn’t really even count. Compare this to Romney’s Mr Inevitableness win in Nevada, where he got 33K to vote.

    Also, Romney won CO by 42 points in 2008. If he can’t win tonight, that’s a sign.

  78. This is the county for Colorado Springs right?

    RT @jpmeyerDPost El Paso County with 193 of 199 precincts: Santorum 4977, Romney 3241.

  79. Yeah, geoff, but the big votes will be coming from Denver and environs, and that’s squish land. CO Springs is the conservative zone.

  80. @76 long time staunch

  81. Can’t help myself:

    How bad was Romney’s night? His press bus took out a traffic sign in the parking lot. Filling out police report now. #2012*

  82. Oh, hey, Danger reminds me of something I was wondering. Did Satch pull in a wrestling trophy, Jeff?

  83. Romney has a huge, possibly insurmountable problem with the GOP base, that’s for sure.

  84. Now I have to wonder where he got those as the Denver Post site doesn’t show anything yet.

  85. Jim P rts Ari F who says his people say Santorum is gonna pull out Colorado.

  86. Denver Candidate Votes %
    Romney 1,311 40%
    Santorum958 29%

  87. Colorado

    Last Updated at 12:51 AM ET
    Republican Results

    Feb. 7, 2012 | Polls Close: 9:00 pm ET

    County Results »

    49 of 76 Precincts Reporting | ? = Projected Winner | Delegates = Estimated Delegate Count
    Candidates Vote % Votes Delegates

    Rick
    Santorum
    38% 10,307 0

    Mitt
    Romney
    35% 9,530 0

    Newt
    Gingrich
    14% 3,803 0

    Ron
    Paul
    12% 3,385 0

    Read more: http://oaktree2.cbsnews.com/primary-election-results-2012/state.shtml?state=CO&tag=featuredRaceWrap;featuredRace#ixzz1llbcqjXJ

  88. A couple medals, bh.

    The trophies come next year.

  89. Sweet. Congrats.

  90. Jefferson Candidate Votes %
    Romney 2,896 39%
    Santorum2,688 37%

  91. Twitter says that Romney didn’t win Jefferson by enough to take the state.

  92. El Paso has not reported yet officially.

  93. Santorum 15,189 Rpmney 13,907

  94. Ryan Call of GOP calls it for Santorum.

  95. fox calls it santorum co

  96. Harder to dismiss a sweep —too much symbolism to be merely symbolic, and thus meaningless.

  97. Romney won CO with 60% in 2008.

    This is a sign.

  98. Well, shit, I’m in a good mood during a primary season. What a strange sensation.

  99. “At one point, Santorum quoted directly from the health-care bill Wofford co-authored to make his point that Wofford supported a payroll tax for health- care reform and that it’s a government-run health-care plan.

    “Stop not telling the truth. Tell the truth,” Santorum said to Wofford. ”Is your bill a single-payer bill?”

    “No,” Wofford responded.

    “That’s not the truth,” Santorum said, his point being that Wofford supports government-run health care and he doesn’t.

  100. Gee, I guess the T party wasn’t behind ol’ Newt so much after all.

    Well, we’re down to the last man standing. And I’m thinking people may be picking up on Romney’s inherent slimyness, with how he’s run his campaign against his fellow republicans up til now.

    OK, hoping, not so much thinking.

    Personally, I believe the real presidential election is taking place right now, not next November. Right now is when we decide if we will run a conservative against a progg, or run a progg against a progg. This choice right now is what will decide the fate of our nation.

    Even if we keep the House, and even up the Senate, Santorum would have an incredibly hard time turning the tide. I just don’t think Romney would do it even with a majority congress.

    The next couple of months will decide our fate.

  101. Looks like it wasn’t even all that close in the end: Santorum by 5-6%

  102. The bad news is, Romney has 3 weeks to get together all the negative shit he and his money can push on Santorum; and Gingrich expects to do well in the South.

    Everybody who is inclined to should send Santorum a ten spot or more. Now. He’s going to need it.

  103. Danger —

    if that’s the Romney spin, he’s done.

  104. rickys got to face the mittens in debate soon

  105. Again by popular demand, the AFTER photos.

    Stump-grinding happens on Thursday. I’ll post whatever vid I can shoot in the late-afternoon light.

  106. February 22, 2012 8pm ET on CNN (Originally Dec 1, then Nov 30)
    Location: Mesa Arts Center in Mesa, Arizona
    Sponsor: CNN and the Republican Party of Arizona

    http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2011-2012-primary-debate-schedule/

  107. The bad news is, Romney has 3 weeks to get together all the negative shit he and his money can push on Santorum; and Gingrich expects to do well in the South.

    On the bright side, Romney can’t focus on Santorum to the exclusion of Newt and risk having Newt sneak back in again, so he’s going to have to keep banging away. Newt, on the other hand, will probably ignore Santorum (figuring Romney will do the dirty deed for him) and add the attacks on Santorum to his litany of complaints about Romney.

    Romney’s support is soft. If he falters, where are they going to go? Not to Newt wouId be my guess.

    Santorum doesn’t have to win. He just has to do well enough to make it back to the midwest. By then, Romney and Gingrich may have mortally wounded each other.

    Here’s to hoping Newt decides to take Romney out —egardless of the cost.

  108. go stump grinding

  109. Now this is hitting below the belt!

  110. You guys are going to kick yourselves for not knowing Spanish. Tonight on Telemundo: Sin senos no hay paraíso (There Is No Paradise without Breasts).

    A poor but beautiful young woman becomes seduced by easy money and joins the world of drugs and prostitution. She knows that the best way to please her clients is through breast augmentation, and she’s willing to do anything to get the money for the surgery.

    Though come to think of it, there wouldn’t be much of a language barrier for this one, would there?

  111. oh go back to tree work

  112. I know Spanish way better than you do, di. I think this has been proven by now.

  113. For instance, fake boobs are gross en Espanola es fakos senos es muy stupido y feo.

    If it seems hard to read that’s because it’s in classy Spanish and you probably don’t know it.

  114. You’re right, bh, the classy Spanish is totally beyond my ken.

  115. At Insty we get this.

    UPDATE: Missourian Prof. Stephen Clark writes: “Don’t put too much stock in the Missouri primary. Turnout was low. Even the candidates showed good sense in ignoring it: No tv ads or robocalls. Pretty much a farce, but an expensive one: Our little town spent $58K for nothing. Another bureaucratic boondoggle.”

  116. Don’t beat yourself up over it, di. It was actually super classy Spanish I was using. Like what the Spanish King Juan the Dos and I use when we’re hanging out.

  117. Sometimes we talk about race horses or our estates. Other times it’s prostitutes with big cans.

    This is life en societie alto.

  118. I could be wrong, but I think Newts done. His best hope is to outlast Paul. For the dignity. o_O

  119. Don’t expect Newt to see it that way.

  120. Santorum had a great night. I expect the talking down of that to being immediately. It’s probably happening now, though Fox Newz is muted on that topic.

  121. Geoffb,

    Someone should share the turnout numbers from Nevada with the good Professor.

    Oh, and I checked on the 2008 Missouri primary turnout (the one that assigned delegates)and it was a little over 580,000 which was not quite 2X tonights turnout.

    I’d say not bad for a “bureaucratic boondoggle”

  122. Sabato to Mitt “Go Nuclear Negative.”

    John Pitney compares Mitt to Reagan 1980 making Santorum into Ford I guess.

    Then there is that, “he’s not in the tank for Mitt” Matt Drudge who manages one nice (sorta) headline,and only mention, “Second wind for Heartland Rick!” and then dumps in this.

    RESULTS:
    CO… MO… MN…
    UPDATES:
    WASHPOST… NYT… FOXNEWS… CNN… MSNBC…
    Full delegate count so far…
    VOTE TOTALS:
    ROMNEY 1,182,886
    GINGRICH 838,102
    SANTORUM 568,723
    PAUL 335,951

  123. I hope he doesn’t, and I’m pulling for you’re #111.

    I’ll just be happy if I get to vote for Santorum come June 5th…

  124. 127 for 123…

  125. you’re= your.

    I’m feeling inept.

  126. Wow, a good thing happened last night. Romney gets a well-deserved black eye; Newt fades to black, and Santorum’s ‘Thank You Missouri and Minnesota’ speech includes:

    There’s probably another person who maybe — maybe is listening to your cheers here tonight, also, and that might be at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. You better start listening to the voice of the people.

    But then again, I wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t listening. Why would you think he would be listening now? Has he ever listened to the voice of America before?

    He’s someone who — well, let’s just go look at the record. If you look at when it came to the — the Wall Street bailouts, did the president of the United States listen to you when it came to bailing out the big banks?

    Why? Because he thought he just knew better. He and his friends on Wall Street knew better than what was — what was good for this country. When it came to the problems that were being confronted on Obamacare, when the health care system in this country, did President Obama, when he was pushing forward his radical health care ideas, listen to the American people?

    Why? Because he thinks he knows better how to run your lives and manage your health care.

    When it comes to the environment, did the president of the United States listen to the American people, or did he push a radical cap- and-trade agenda that would crush the energy and manufacturing sector of the economy? Did he listen to you? No, because he thinks he knows better.

    Ladies and gentlemen, we need a president who listens to the American people. When the majority of Americans oppose these radical ideas and they speak loudly against them, we need a president who listens to them.

    We can only conclude that these Santorum voters are all:

    RAAAAACISTS~!

  127. Santorum Spanks Romney in Midwestern Primaries

    Mitt Romney didn’t just lose. He lost to Muhammad, Jugdish, Sidney, and Clayton—the archetypal losers from Animal House. …
    Team Romney might say, “Au contraire.” They would surely note that Missouri didn’t count. Technically accurate, politically untrue. Romney losing a nonbinding primary to Santorum is like the New York Yankees losing an exhibition game to a church-league softball team.

    Minnesota is even harder for Romney to explain. He not only had all the money, he had the support of the former governor (and former GOP presidential candidate) Tim Pawlenty. Which was worth a warm bucket of spit.

    Let’s hope this night will sink Romney and forever haunt the GOP kingmakers. If not, the reverberations of this night will assist Obama in the end. But, at this point, we have to stand for the Conservative. That’s the principled way, and the only way AFAIC.

  128. Wow, kills multiple birds with one stone. Santorum gains momentum, Romney is apparently not as inevitable as suspected and Gingrich is (deservedly so) fading rapidly. Plus, there’s a picture out there of Santorum Teebowing so this Florida fan is pretty happy.

    That being said, I was listening to our local (Florida) talk radio show (AM radio on the conservative station) – its 2 guys and a gal and all the gal could talk about was how offensive Santorum’s stance on woman, abortion and rape is and they were discussing how if Santorum gets the nod, the media will make the entire election about social issues. If Santorum gets the nom and the press manages to make it all about rape and abortion and gay marriage and more rape, then I think there’s a pretty good chance we lose and the country gets raped. How do we defend against that ? I’m already seeing it all over my facebook page from liberal friends about how Santorum hates them gays.

    Thoughts?

  129. 3 wins fer the tea party.
    Yay!

  130. New Romney alibi:
    Colorodo voters were lost:

    So, the smart ones were able to figure out the way and vote for Santorum?

    We should do more of this.

  131. Y’all are gonna have to switch to cheaper booze if you’re going to make a lifestyle out of it.

    I’m a lightweight; a bottle of Victory V-12 leaves me practically slobbering. At 12% ABV, it’s a mighty tasty beer; I just can’t drink much of it.

    OTOH on a purely cost per unit drunk, it’s hard to beat your mid-shelf vodkas and rums. But I typically go with a bottle of Appletons or something like that because it’s cheap enough, yet tasty!

  132. It’s somewhat amazing to me how views that were perfectly normal and completely unobjectionable a mere generation ago are now hate.

  133. The local news just reported that Romney is still the front runner.

    I’d like to know how Romney is still considered the front runner, but there you have it.

  134. Life’s too short to drink cheap booze.

  135. Unfortunately, in Barak Obama’s America the only thing that’s cheap is the grace.

  136. Drudge explains it in geoff’s 126, Blake.

    Of course, you shouldn’t need an explanation. You’ve been told by your betters that he’s the front runner.

    Now accept it!

  137. Ernst, I cannot wait until the inevitable “Santorum will have us all kissing the Pope’s ring” slurs start.

  138. I think Romney is still the frontrunner based on his survival rate against all the other candidates and the funds he has raised. What he may not be anymore, in light of yesterday, is inevitable. If Gingrich would do the right thing and drop out, Santorum gets a fundraising boost and has a better head to head shot against Romney. Unfortunately, I assume Gingrich’s ego and sense of entitlement will keep him in the race until the bitter end.

  139. Blake, at least that one’s easy to refute:

    Just like John effin Kennedy!

    And we want Gingrich in for just a little longer, Matt. We want his bruised ego and sense of stolen entitlement focused squarely on Mitt Romney until the bitter end.

  140. Matt —
    Santorum is known for being willing to stand up, take quesstions, and defend his positions intellectually. If he’s given a big platform on which to do that — say, as the GOP nominee for President, where he can speak directly to the American people — I suspect they’d be able to see which religion is more dangerous: the statism, which believes it has a right and a duty to ignore the Constitution for its ends; or a religious dude who just wants the state and the judiciary to follow the Constitution and stop molesting people of faith.

    The problem with screaming “anti-woman” and “gay hate” over and over again for years on end is that people roll their eyes at such bs now. Except for the true believers, who were never going to vote for Santorum anyway.

    So. Reagan Dem factory workers will have to decide: do we want employment and a tax holiday to reinvigorate this sector of the economy? Or would we rather buy the media spin that Santorum wants to stone gays?

  141. Jeff, I Agree about Santorum being able to explain his position and defend himself – one of the things I like about him is he’s made marked progress during the course of the campaign in debating and on the stump – my guess is the lack of focus on him during most of the debates has allowed him to process the arguments against him and form cogent responses. My concern, of course, is the media and the manner in which they’ll spin all of the social stuff against Santorum. I HOPE independent voters will be smart enough to roll their eyes at the hyperbole we’ll be hearing from the MSM but I’m not convinced that will be the case. I also hope Santorum is smart enough to focus on the economic issues and allow the social issues to be put on the back burner- I think he is, because I don’t think social issues are all he’s about, despite the narrative from the MSM. Guess we’ll see. I know my parents, who are older, republican and concerned with social issues as well as economic issues (and, as an aside, worked on a number of Gingrich campaigns and can’t stand the man after this primary season) are pretty energized, as is their church, one of the biggest ones in Atlanta. They would vote for the nominee, of course, but they were also in the “Pox on both their houses” when it came to Gingrich and Romney.

  142. I HOPE independent voters will be smart enough to roll their eyes at the hyperbole we’ll be hearing from the MSM but I’m not convinced that will be the case.

    The discernment of the typical* independent voter is greatly exaggerated, not least by the candidates and media enablers who seek to flatter her vanity . The way to deal with the sheep-like mind of the independent voter is to demonstrate that you’re the sheep dog and your opponent is the wolf.

    *distinct from the atypical independent who’s a declared independent because the two major parties are insufficiently right (or left) of center.

    I also hope Santorum is smart enough to focus on the economic issues and allow the social issues to be put on the back burner- I think he is, because I don’t think social issues are all he’s about, despite the narrative from the MSM.

    Social issues ARE economic issues because of the societal consequences of a century of progressive social policy.

  143. Quin Hillyer again:

    The shape of the nomination fight to come is now clear: With Ron Paul continuing to take his minority share of the votes, other conservatives will rally around Santorum rather than Gingrich. Eventually, a weak Romney, without a personal “connection” to voters and without any strongly philosophically committed base, will succumb. Santorum will be the nominee.

  144. You know what would be awesome? President Santorum throwing a shout-out to Dan Savage at his inauguration.

  145. More Tues. nite post-mort from the American Spectator‘s blog (because I don’t know who Ross Kaminsky is):

    At least in Colorado, it’s not just that Republican voters are worried that Romney isn’t a true conservative. They’re also sick and tired of “the establishment.” They’re tired of Republicans nominating the person who can claim to be “next in line”, who has diligently waited his turn, and who might lead to defeat against a beatable opponent, as we saw Bob Dole and John McCain, among others, do.

  146. Voting only means something if those in charge deem it to be meaningful and that depends on how the results align with their own designs. See Iowa for a clear demonstration.

  147. Well, it had to mean something, otherwise, why bother to vote?

  148. Geraghty is tolerable when there isn’t a blue-on-blue fight going on, but as soon as a major GOP primary contest rears its head he camps out in the front pew at the First Church of [insert candidate name here], The One and Electable.

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