August 27, 2011

VISIGOTHS, revisited

Rick Moran would like it known that while he still thinks your inelegant right-wing extremism is gauche and unfairly dismissive of those witty, urbane, educated Republicans who are far better than you any of you can ever hope to be and who simply can’t stand you and your stupid uncompromising “principles”, he nevertheless admits that — likely by accident, or dumb luck — you’re sorta kinda correct about their being a Republican establishment — albeit correct in that dirty, hillbillyish, non-witty non-urbane and non-educated way that seems to be the standard with filthy moronic declasse haters who simply don’t know their place and continue to mock their betters, among which Mr Moran may or may not count himself.

At least, I think that’s the gist of this bitter little screed, which drips contempt and resignation like creamy dollops from Tucker Carlson’s bow tie, were Tucker Carlson’s bow tie somehow made of butter or tallow and set carelessly near an open flame or other heat source.

Moran:

Of course there’s a GOP establishment and he’s Exhibit A. The existence of the Republican Party as a political entity demands there be some kind of establishment from which leaders are chosen, favors dispensed, and conduits created so that ideas can be channeled into the most productive venues and nurtured and incorporated. And the nature of political society demands that there be a conservative establishment also for much the same reasons. Whether one listens to or obeys establishment figures is another story, but whether you wish to marginalize them or ignore them, you can’t destroy them. Knock one off, another will take their place. The establishment is dead. Long live the establishment.

The establishment doesn’t refer to Obama as a “Communist” (although they may refer to his “socialist policies”), nor do they make reference to Obama as a “dictator.” What mostly defines an establishment member these days is the level of disdain exhibited toward Tea Partiers, the evangelical right, and the anti-science Luddites and anti-intellectual galoots who make up a sizable minority of the GOP base and who threaten to determine who will face Barack Obama in 2012.

The prospect of denim-wearing, dirty-fingernail, rank-and-file activists actually having an impact on the nominating process for the GOP presidential candidate has the establishment wringing their hands and scrambling to find another candidate more in line with their idea of governance. Take their money? Sure. Direct their energies into volunteer efforts for candidates? Absolutely.

But let them decide who should represent them as a candidate for president? Perish the thought.

Politics will have its way with them. If they nominate someone unacceptable to the establishment but who wins anyway, their wisdom will have been proven correct and their influence will grow. On the other hand, if a Tea Party-supported candidate gets clobbered, they will be taken down a few pegs and, as happened in 1968 following the Goldwater drubbing, a more establishment-oriented candidate will probably emerge next time around. In politics, nothing succeeds like success and the push-pull between Tea Party and establishment will work its way out at the ballot box.

This doesn’t solve the establishment’s current dilemma. While the Tea Partiers see Mitt Romney as the darling of the establishment, the button-down set isn’t sold on him. They might like the cut of the former Massachusetts governor’s jib but he changes his top sail too often and his spinnaker is often left flapping to port.

[...]

Three candidates have been prominently mentioned and would almost certainly meet with the establishment’s approval to one degree or another: New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, former New York Governor George Pataki, and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Unfortunately for the Ralph Lauren set, both Christie and Pataki have declared themselves out of the race, while Guiliani is still mulling things over. Besides, even if they changed their minds, the challenges facing each of them would be immense.

[...]

So while there may be room for more candidates in the GOP field (Sarah Palin may eventually stop her “Dance of the Coquettes” and declare one way or another), the bad news for the establishment is that there is no one on the horizon who could fill their aching hearts and heal the breach in their souls as they survey the 2012 Republican field.

They are stuck with dopes, jokes, and frauds and they better get used to it.

Or maybe they can just dust McCain off and give him another go.

— The era of Reagan and his uncompromising adherence to conservative ideals being over and whatnot.

And who knows? If there is any social justice in the world, maybe the dull, grassroots galoots and the Visigoths with the dirty fingernails will get distracted by something shiny just in time to forget about both the GOP primaries and the 2012 elections. At which point Mr Moran and some of the better types can perhaps get together and choose for the right wing rabble a candidate to run against Barack Obama who wouldn’t so embarrass the establishment — this being, of course, the most important trait in a potential President.

Because sure, Obama is a faculty lounge socialist who’s been a complete disaster as President; but you can’t say he doesn’t hit all the proper identity markers as member of the swell and educated gentry.

And in the end, isn’t that what leadership is all about?

Posted by Jeff G. @ 10:40am
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Comments (59)

  1. It’s always the same from the Morans of the world: “Shut up and let the Democrats pick your nominee already, would you?” Pataki?? Really?

  2. It’s always useful to listen to the advice of those who don’t have your best interests at heart — and always foolish to take it.

    So, thanks Rick — now sit down and be quiet until we want your money and support for our candidate.

  3. I’m thinkin our intellectual betters could do with a few more smacks upside the head.
    maybe with a board.

  4. Republican Establishment = Those who hob-knob at cocktail parties in DC and listen to Democratic Establishment types and take their advice on how to pick a presidential nominee.

  5. slave driver
    the tables have turned

  6. They are stuck with dopes, jokes, and frauds and they better get used to it.

    Moran fulfills Paul Simon: The way we look to us all. That’s some real circular movement, Rick, leaving those awful principles off the table because they were shoved over there by the folks whose asses you insist on sucking.

  7. Or maybe they can just dust McCain off and give him another go.

    Ow.

  8. Moran, whatever else he does, sure has a way of making establishment types out to be profoundly stupid, don’t he? They should look him up and pound his ass for the insult.

  9. On the other hand, if a Tea Party-supported candidate gets clobbered, they will be taken down a few pegs and, as happened in 1968 following the Goldwater drubbing, a more establishment-oriented candidate will probably emerge next time around.

    Ah, a longing for the Nixon days. The rise of the radical progressive left. The start of EPA, OSHA, Environmental Impact Statements, Affirmative Action, ERA and after all that pandering brought down in such a way so as to cement the dominance of the progressives in Congress for 20 years.

    What’s not to like?

  10. Ask yourself, Rick, who you have more regard for: The other side or a turncoat. Maybe then you can begin to see how you yourself are seen.

  11. Oh, and: Jackass.

  12. msnbc etc…
    if u could pick one shakespeare quote…only one mind you…what would it be?
    a- done to death by slanderous tounge
    b-some cupid kills with arrows,some with traps
    c-caviar to the general

  13. d-For when my outward action doth demonstrate
    The native act and figure of my heart
    In complement extern, ’tis not long after
    But I will wear my heart upon my sleeve
    For daws to peck at. I am not what I am.

  14. Comes a hurricane, look who decides to revisit his nest site out of season. Good place to hunker down, I guess.

  15. They are stuck with dopes, jokes, and frauds and they better get used to it.

    Moran is most certainly the first and forever too inconsequential to be the second. But it’s hard to assess whether or not he’s a fraud because that would necessitate giving a fuck.

  16. it’s interesting how bobby jindal has so subtly yet so irrevocably fucked himself that he’s never even mentioned

  17. At least, I think that’s the gist of this bitter little screed,

    I’m not sure I grok his rhetorical stance, either:

    The prospect of denim-wearing, dirty-fingernail, rank-and-file activists actually having an impact on the nominating process for the GOP presidential candidate has the establishment wringing their hands and scrambling to find another candidate more in line with their idea of governance. Take their money? Sure. Direct their energies into volunteer efforts for candidates? Absolutely.

    But let them decide who should represent them as a candidate for president? Perish the thought.

    This seems rhetorically similar to Jeff’s intro:

    he nevertheless admits that — likely by accident, or dumb luck — you’re sorta kinda correct about their being a Republican establishment — albeit correct in that dirty, hillbillyish, non-witty non-urbane and non-educated way that seems to be the standard with filthy moronic declasse haters who simply don’t know their place and continue to mock their betters, among which Mr Moran may or may not count himself.

    IOW, he seems to be employing Establican rhetoric to mock the Establicans. Because this formulation is essentially correct:

    If [Republicans] nominate someone unacceptable to the establishment but who wins anyway, [Tea Party] wisdom will have been proven correct and [Tea Party] influence will grow. On the other hand, if a Tea Party-supported candidate gets clobbered, [the Tea Party] will be taken down a few pegs and, as happened in 1968 following the Goldwater drubbing, a more establishment-oriented candidate will probably emerge next time around.

    From the Establican POV, that’s prolly what it comes down to. Moran finishes with this:

    the bad news for the establishment is that there is no one on the horizon who could fill their aching hearts and heal the breach in their souls as they survey the 2012 Republican field.

    They are stuck with dopes, jokes, and frauds and they better get used to it.

    I’d have to know whether Moran agreed with this last sentence himself or if he’s again imitating Establican rhetoric.

    I’m going to vote the latter, becasue if I assume the latter, there’s nothing particularly objectionable about the essay.

  18. i think bobby jindal should be a super-stock boy
    who works wicked hard in his uncles company and he can never get a break cuz he’s terra-cotta not like his uncles
    cherry red and he never got a break cuz he’s terra-cotta
    and the cheery-reds are all ‘acting orange’ trying to be orangey..
    but lil bobby jindal just puts his ..frankly-rectangular- head down and don’t cause no trouble with the cherry red- cuz he’s a good boy
    then one day ‘alabaster-whites’ come in and kill all the cherry-reds’ …..
    i have been drinking and if 2 people want to hear the end of the bobby jindal story
    you are sick twisted people..
    [pre-view- he spends time in a base-ball camp]

  19. So I’m reminded of Jonah’s post from Friday: “My Rick Perry Problem — and Ours,” the thesis of which is:

    I find the prospect of another four or eight years of defending these cultural distinctions to be intensely wearying.

    My weariness is hardly a major consideration for anybody, but I think it reflects a larger problem. Conservatism is starting to have an identity-politics problem all its own. I think conservatism needs to spend less time defending candidates for who they are, and more time supporting candidates for what they intend to do.

    Bush’s inability to articulate arguments had nothing to do with his Texan-ness or his Christianity, but a lot of folks on the right defended him as if that were the case. “He speaks American, don’t you get it?”

    To which I’d reply: “No, he speaks badly.”

    Two-hundred sixty-one comments as of now, and all of the ones I skimmed through (a few dozen) totally missed Jonah’s point (in bold). Instead, they thought that Jonah was saying that the heartland candidates did sound folksy and that it was a problem somehow. And they predictably bristled.

    But Jonah is saying exactly the opposite: there’s no need to defend the folksiness because it’s not really an issue, let alone a problem. It’s the Left (and some Establicans) who are making it an issue, and we should not let the Left dictate what we discuss.

    Anyone know if there’s a blog out there that discusses this issue?

  20. dicentra, I think this paragraph tells you where he’s coming from:

    Any one of those crimes against the right wing would be enough to sentence Will to the outer darkness — a RINO hell where all compromisers, unbelievers, and Chicago Cubs fans eventually end up. And Tea Party Perdition is getting awfully crowded with Reagan-era conservatives like Will — the “extremists” of their day. It’s not that they’ve moderated their philosophy. It’s that these apostates don’t possess the uncompromising fervor of righteous certainty in their views and pedal-to-the-metal hate for their political opponents that grips a large segment of the right.

    We’re just a bunch of uncompromising fundamentalists who don’t know when we’s well off.

  21. 17. I took it the same way. He’s using the language of drawing room liberals to spear the GOP Establishment. From what I gather, he’s a mainstream GOP kind of guy, which is fine, as long as he acknowledges that the root–and logical end–of GOP thinking are the limited government values the Tea Party is trying to restore.

    PS: The hurricane wasn’t that bad.

  22. The he is Moran, not Goldberg.

  23. Perry is an ungodly promiscuous identity politics whore with his countless silly pledges to white trash christer interest groups I think. But he’s better than Obama.

  24. took it the same way. He’s using the language of drawing room liberals to spear the GOP Establishment.

    Clearly, you haven’t been paying attention to Moran. This is the language he’s been using to describe TEA Party types for some time now.

    Yes, he’s conflicted. But make no mistake about where he places himself.

    I almost put in a line suggesting that this column appeared to be aimed at him, even though he wrote it. I truly believe that.

  25. Or to put it another way, both you and dicentra are wrong.

  26. More from Moran.

    Here, too.

    I should think you all would trust me by now, but then I also would think that being right would get you better gigs — not being consistently wrong. So there’s that.

  27. Fuck it, I give up.

    What did Iowahawk tweet today?

  28. Or maybe they can just dust McCain off and give him another go.

    Um, that’s Jon Huntsman, isn’t it?

  29. momma jindal hollowed out a gibson tree
    to place her-frankly-rectangular head baby innit
    for freedom and put him in the ganges for a three hour tour to amerika and said ‘look out for the turd blossom!”
    i’ll always love my momma,she’s the only one

  30. I’ve read Moran’s thing twice now, and while its a mish mash – most likely a reflection of his own inner cognitive dissonance – the scales tip to his fedupness with the dirty-fingernailed teabaggers.

    In the opening paragraph he is mocking those that have questioned George Will …

    Will has fallen out of favor on the right wing because…well, just because. Because he’s from D.C.; because he criticizes Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and other GOP insurgents; because he refuses to acknowledge the inherent wisdom of the Tea Party in Republican politics; because he is a civilized, witty, urbane, educated, well-read, bow-tie-wearing public intellectual and Washington insider.

    Any one of those crimes against the right wing would be enough to sentence Will to the outer darkness — a RINO hell where all compromisers, unbelievers, and Chicago Cubs fans eventually end up. And Tea Party Perdition is getting awfully crowded with Reagan-era conservatives like Will — the “extremists” of their day. It’s not that they’ve moderated their philosophy. It’s that these apostates don’t possess the uncompromising fervor of righteous certainty in their views and pedal-to-the-metal hate for their political opponents that grips a large segment of the right.

    That doesn’t sound like someone poking the GOP Establishment; except to be exasperated that the Establishment is not fighting back enough to put those eat-my-peas-with-a-knife-and-wipe-my-mouth-on-my-sleeve, fly-over mouthbreathers back in their place.

    Part of Moran is attracted by the energy of the TEA Partiers, but like the Squire’s son distracted by the bountiful charms and innate intelligence of the kitchen cook’s daughter, he knows his own place in the political aristocracy – it may be empty of meaning but “winning” is all, even if it means he must wed some horse-faced, disinterested, cold fish to keep his place.

  31. SDN, that paragraph can also be read as mocking the Establicans with their own rhetoric.

    Yes, he’s conflicted. But make no mistake about where he places himself. I should think you all would trust me by now.

    I was reading the article in isolation, not positioning it within Moran’s entire oeuvre. Which, that’s what context does for ya.

    What did Iowahawk tweet today?

    It almost sounds as if you care, or that you’d rather I mixed it up a bit.

    So here’s a tweet from God:

    “Why did you put nipples on men?” Yea, that was a mistake. They were supposed to get AM and FM radio, but there was too much pec static.

  32. Idiots. Political fucking idiots!

    I have a 1968 Les Paul, three Telecasters, and an Alembic guitar, and I also have a 1972 Gibson Dove. Probably all illegal in the eyes of our Marxist emperors.

    I am am in way deep trouble, because we have a bunch of screaming third grade fucking assholes who run this country. My fucking guitar bridge is illegal? FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! ASSHOLES! FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!!!

    FUCK YOU, OBAMA AND HOLDER!!!! You are the stupidest, most inept fucking morons ever seen on this planet, and there ain’t no way around it! Grow up, you fucking ten year old twatwaffles!

    Let me repeat. FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, OBAMA AND HOLDER!!!!!!

    ASSHOLES! ASSHOLES!! ASSHOLES!!

    Get it? Got it? Good! (Danny Kaye)!

    Once agaian, the attitude problem rears it’s ugly head.

    I think I’m upset because I just cooked my hot dog for 10:00 minutes instead of 1:00 minute in the microwave.

    Dipshit, eh?

    I guess I deserve Barry Sorento and Eric Holder to be my leaders…

  33. Nice rant zino, but I think you want the next post up.

    ;^)

  34. After reading this I went over to his site on a lark and noticed he has a podcast. The title of the latest was “Electability and the GOP Field”. Given this discussion I had to give it a listen. Clears the matter right up; Jeff continues to have Moran accurately pegged.

    Side note: He has a habit of constantly laughing for no reason. Whether something wasn’t that funny or there is no humor to be found in the interchange at all. It’s really bizarre.

  35. Side note: He has a habit of constantly laughing for no reason.

    Hmmm. Inappropriate laughter.

    Either he’s high on pot or he’s schizophrenic.

  36. What does Moran do to raise the level of our politics? Nothing, so far as I can see. So what the hell good is he? Search me.

  37. lil tiny bobby jindal had crutches made out
    of smashed gibson guitars in the remnants of a capitalist society and he knew that
    but he’s a fighter!
    more food please,more food please, more
    food please
    [ pre-view-
    he was a lifeguard on the ganges river

    he was voted- ” most likelely to spot poo”

  38. save me save me australian pink floyd! u gonna run to the rock
    for rescue
    there will be no rock

  39. I think this needs just a touch of photoshopping and then it’s good to go.

  40. Jeff,
    I suspect you are correct and while you have disagreed with the guy in the past IIRC, I for one wasn’t looking at context.

    I trust you so he could have written a column that was emblamtic of his own internal civil war, or, per you, his comic dismissal of the Tea Party as Sans Culottes.

    Either way I’m wrong.

  41. Roddy —

    My fault for not including the line about his having written the column aimed at himself. It clearly is trying to have it both ways, but I think that’s because Moran has come under fire before for his attacks on the dirty “purists” (who, of course, don’t demand purity, but rather demand that “compromises” move us back toward first principles, not toward the left, which is how we’ve been playing the game since at least Woodrow Wilson) and he’s a bit more gun shy these days.

  42. daleks vs. joni mitchell [ht jeff]
    i’ve looked at sides from both sides now
    EXterminate
    from win or lose, and still somehow
    EXTERMinate
    it’s lifes illussions i recall
    EXTERMINATE!
    i really don’t know life at all
    EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE< EXTERMINATE

  43. More from Moran.

    Heh. You’d think he’d have figured it out before now.

    The title: Tea Party Defines Losing as Winning

    The pull quote:

    In politics, there is victory and there is defeat. Nothing else matters.

    The publication date: September 16, 2010

    How’s that working out for ya, Rick?

  44. Shakespeare quote? “The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.”

    I’ll make a few exceptions.

  45. I’ve read Moran’s thing twice now, and while its a mish mash – most likely a reflection of his own inner cognitive dissonance – the scales tip to his fedupness with the dirty-fingernailed teabaggers.

    He’s struggling with an inescapable fact. He’s losing and he’s actually going to like it.

    We’re not going to stay on the fence. We can’t keep kicking the can down the road. And the establishment he holds so dear has been enabling those things. It’s not going to work anymore. It’s old and busted. There is no compromise between surviving and collapsing.

    “I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party” – when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

    Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?

    Let our banner proclaim our belief in a free market as the greatest provider for the people.

    Let us explore ways to ward off socialism, not by increasing government’s coercive power, but by increasing participation by the people in the ownership of our industrial machine.

    It is time to reassert our principles and raise them to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.”

    See anyone you know, Rick?

  46. And now, and old poem from Tarzana Joe

    Utopia by Tarzana Joe

    That notion, so delectable
    That mankind is perfectible
    Is once again respectable
    And seems our current goal

    We used to think divinity
    Was out there past infinity
    Perhaps in the vicinity
    Of your immortal soul

    But now we’re told perfection
    For those who’re so inclined
    Is nearer than it’s ever been
    For it’s been redefined

    We’re scolded to be perfect
    By cries of the Incessants
    We owe it to our neighbors
    To use compact fluorescents

    We owe this new utopia
    To exercise for hours
    We owe it to the planet
    To all take shorter showers

    Forget exploring oceans
    Or some day visit Mars
    The challenge of our lifetime
    Is to all get hybrid cars

    If we, in our obedience
    Put out the selfish flame
    We’ll turn our backs to heaven
    And all will think the same

    Is this the end of ice cream?
    And vices that we treasure…
    Is this the end of sparkling?
    Is this the end of pleasure?

    So down with your defiance
    I recommend compliance
    Join in the new alliance
    And grasp the greater good

    Forget what you’re pursuin’
    It’s been your life’s undoin’
    The past is but a ruin
    See there, where it once stood.

  47. bazooka joe poem

    release the kracken
    of chewy gum goodness
    is that politically correct?
    i hide my head in shame..
    in a blue turtleneck
    [is blue..aright..?]

  48. Really late coming to this. That’s what I get for doing my labor day yard work a weekend early.
    Anyways, regarding Moran and that extremist Reaganite, George Will, whose only fault, God love him, is that he’s getting a bit senile as the years accumulate: while I don’t know this for a fact, I imagine that if you went back and read his columns from ’78 through the ’80 election, you’ll find that he was a Bush supporter prior to Reagan’s securing the nomination, and continued to harbor doubts about Reagan’s chances right up until “ask yourself, are you better off now than you were four years ago?”

  49. He was a Baker supporter. Then a Bush supporter. And finally a Reagan supporter.

    Krauthammer was a Mondale guy.

  50. Well, we’re all Reagan republicans now, even when we say the era of Reagan is over.

  51. George Will did get this right

    Democrats furiously oppose Walker because public employees unions are transmission belts, conveying money to the Democratic Party. Last year, $11.2 million in union dues was withheld from paychecks of Wisconsin’s executive branch employees and $2.6 million from paychecks at the university across the lake. Having spent improvidently on the recall elections, the Wisconsin Education Association Council, the teachers union, is firing 40 percent of its staff.

    Progressives want to recall Walker next year. Republicans hope they try. Wisconsin seems weary of attempts to overturn elections, and surely Obama does not want his allies squandering political money and the public’s patience. Since 1960, no Democrat has been elected president without carrying Wisconsin.

    Walker has refuted the left’s sustaining conviction that a leftward-clicking ratchet guarantees that liberalism’s advances are irreversible. Progressives, eager to discern a victory hidden in their recent failures, suggest that a chastened Walker will not risk further conservatism. Actually, however, his agenda includes another clash with teachers unions over accountability and school choice, and combat over tort reform with another cohort parasitic off bad public policies — trial lawyers.

    As the moonless night of fa$ci$m descends on America’s dairyland, sidewalk graffiti next to the statehouse square drinking fountain darkly warns: “Free water … for now.” There, succinctly, is liberalism’s credo: If everything isn’t “free,” meaning paid for by someone else, nothing will be safe.

  52. These are the modern day Fops; perfumed and pampered. quite comfortable living the high life, while looking down their nose at those they suspect have had shit on thier shoes at some time in their lives.

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  54. I’ll have to dig it out, but I have George Will’s book arguing for term limits on Congresscritters and it is refreshingly OUTLAW from the ‘our Founders set up the government to be limited in scope with citizen House members that took a mere two-to-four years from their private life to serve part-time, like jury duty. It was never meant to be a career’.

  55. The “Goldwater drubbing” was in 1968?

  56. To Mr. Moran:

    Yes, Obama IS a communist, and if he ain’t a dic(k)tator, just what the hell is he doing by cutting Congress out of the loop?

  57. He’s struggling with an inescapable fact. He’s losing and he’s actually going to like it.

    Pablo, we’re all losing, and up until the rise of the TEA Party Moran was satisfied with ‘losing more slowly’. Now, the FEAR! is settling in his and the rest of the Establicon’s bloated carcasses that the TEA Party might be a movement too little too late to save ‘em.

  58. I’m referring to his losing to the Visigoths, serr8d, despite the utter impossibility of that ever happening.

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