The Journolist saga continues
It was the moment of greatest peril for then-Sen. Barack Obama’s political career. In the heat of the presidential campaign, videos surfaced of Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, angrily denouncing whites, the U.S. government and America itself. Obama had once bragged of his closeness to Wright. Now the black nationalist preacher’s rhetoric was threatening to torpedo Obama’s campaign. [...]According to records obtained by The Daily Caller, at several points during the 2008 presidential campaign a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic participated in outpourings of anger over how Obama had been treated in the media, and in some cases plotted to fix the damage.
In one instance, Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
Really, is this like shocking!1!! or something? Lefties reaching for the race card each time they are losing an argument is just expected. So why does Ackerman encourage such cynical tactics against people he knows are not racist?
Oh, maybe because, as a distraction, it works. Ackerman writes:
I do not endorse a Popular Front, nor do I think you need to. It’s not necessary to jump to Wright-qua-Wright’s defense. What is necessary is to raise the cost on the right of going after the left. In other words, find a rightwinger’s [sic] and smash it through a plate-glass window. Take a snapshot of the bleeding mess and send it out in a Christmas card to let the right know that it needs to live in a state of constant fear. Obviously I mean this rhetorically.And I think this threads the needle. If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.
As our inestimable host, Jeff G, has written over and over again, this is what happens when speech is allowed to be defined by the listener, not the author. People like Ackerman count on squishy-cons to take to their fainting couches each and everytime the Left points a finger and screeches “I am offended by your CODE WORDS!”
Such “offense” is as genuine as Joe Biden’s hairline.
Comment by serr8d on 7/21 @ 7:58 am #
@Attackerman is working Wired’s Danger Room. For now.
Seems like too nice a gig for such a small turd.
Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 7/21 @ 7:58 am #
What’s that line, [snap, snap] something about watching sausages, laws, and newspapers being made…
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:19 am #
It’s kind of ironic to be exposing them for this just as Mr. Breitbart is being so accommodating about climbing into their sandbox I think.
Ironic in a bad way.
But also this honest and refreshing look at Spencer and Co.’s loathsome tactics, it sort of skips over how Team R was never able to make Wright stick primarily because their candidate and most of the rest of Team R were too cowardly to say hey look… this is wrong wrong wrong and we need an explanation.
Comment by Matt on 7/21 @ 8:26 am #
If journalists want me to live in a “constant state of fear”, they got their wish when Obama was elected. Each day I wake to see which path to destruction Golden Urkel has set our poor little country on today.
Comment by scooter on 7/21 @ 8:41 am #
Except, happy, that Breitbart claims to have received the video in edited form. I’d give the man a chance to respond to the unedited video before accusing him of climbing into that sandbox.
Unless there’s something more meta going on – for example, if he’s deliberately using their own tactics against them. I agree with Jonah G. over at NRO that this is not a good idea and for now am willing to give Andy B. the benefit of the doubt but I will be curious to see how he responds.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:45 am #
see I would say that dragging this out over several days is sort of a clue… meanwhile the Coast Guard is whoring for BP and talk of more stimulus is on the wind and the energy bill is being cued up and god help us all.
Comment by DarthRove on 7/21 @ 8:49 am #
I don’t have all the facts, but it’s clear that the White House, Department of Agriculture, and NAACP acted stupidly.
Seems I’ve heard something like that before…
Comment by serr8d on 7/21 @ 8:54 am #
Brings a smile to my stone face, yes, precious, it does.
Breitbart is DA MAN~!
Comment by Carin on 7/21 @ 8:57 am #
Bama should have a beer with everyone after his rush to judgement.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 7/21 @ 9:13 am #
The White House, the USDA, and the NAACP acted so hastily. Almost like they were afraid that something very bad was going to get out.
Puzzling.
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Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 9:32 am #
Well, I put forth my thoughts on this yesterday, when a lot of other folks were buzzing about the NAACP/Sherrod thing
http://powip.com/2010/07/andrew-breitbart-likens-journolist-members-to-pravda-reporters/
The real shame is that the whole Sherrod imbroglio is going to diminish the dissemination of this much larger journolist revalations. I’m just glad that Carlson and the Daily Caller seem to have more installments ready in the pipeline.
The bottom line is that the members of that listserv colluded to shape the public narrative into one that would be beneficial to their ideological and political bend, and that they did so under the imprimatur, and benefitted from the associated gravitas, of the institution of the free press; one that we are all informed, from a very early age, and that a vast number of people believe, are only allowed to print the verifiedm and rechecked truth-as an uncodified part of the social compact that guarantees their right to free speech. The public relies on this jornalistic ethic when they take thier information from alleged serious news sources; and the founders of our nation believed that an informed citizenry was a vital component that would ensure the longevity of our democratically elected representative republic.
They deliberatly subverted the fourth estate, and played on the public’s trust in that institution, to achieve their desired outcome; in their minds, the ends justified any means. They violated their ethics, the public trust, and in essence acted in a traitorous manner with respect to the pillars of our society. In fact, Ace goes further and reasons that they hypocritically acted in the very fashion that they so often decry!
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/303835.php
They should all be fired, like Dan Rather and Mary Mapes, never to work in the journalistic profession again.
Comment by mojo on 7/21 @ 9:32 am #
The trick is to point back and say “I DON’T GIVE A SHIT!”
Comment by Look to the audience on 7/21 @ 9:47 am #
Shirley Sherrod is not the racist who should be at the center of attention in the Breitbart video. Rather, we should ask why NAACP members are chortling, “um-hmmming,” and laughing as a woman describes how she discriminated against a fellow citizen because he was white. The NAACP members of the audience are true racists.
Comment by ConantheCimmerian on 7/21 @ 9:48 am #
addendum to the post, check this dailycaller link:
http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/21/liberal-journalists-suggest-government-shut-down-fox-news/
Comment by bigbooner on 7/21 @ 9:49 am #
“The real shame is that the whole Sherrod imbroglio is going to diminish the dissemination of this much larger journolist revalations. I’m just glad that Carlson and the Daily Caller seem to have more installments ready in the pipeline.”
Not to be like the turd in the punch bowl but just how much “dissemination” will actually take place on the journolist story? Won’t it be the same old same old? The big boys will totally ignore it and it will bounce around the blogs. Not to diminish the blogs but in order to inform some folks they are going to need to see this somewhere where THEY actually get their news. They sure aren’t gonna get it from Bob Schieffer or Charles Gibson or any other shitbirds like that.
Comment by geoffb on 7/21 @ 9:54 am #
From Doc Zero
Comment by motionview on 7/21 @ 9:54 am #
Spencer Ackerman is a racist.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:01 am #
there was nothing wrong with Shirley’s audience… Andy Brietbart is a lying dishonest deceitful tool what fucked up this woman’s life on the basis of a lie, and he needs to own that, not Shirley’s audience… Andrew’s mean-spirited lynching of this woman did absolutely nothing to absolve the Tea Party of racisms and in fact exacerbated the situation.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:04 am #
until this week the sum total of black women lives what the Tea Party had fucked up had been zero
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 10:05 am #
bigbooner,
It’ll be folks like us that make sure the information get’s disseminated; regardless of the Schieffers and Williamses of the world. Because we can make sure that anytime one of the phony journolist memes is pushed in our presence, be it at a social gathering, family get-together, or even during water-cooler speak, we parry the thrust by citing these very revelations.
It will mean having to remember facts, details, and referring folks to the Caller’s site, but, no one said turning over the tyranny of MFM informating conditioning, or even countering the machinations of the dirty socialist machine, would be easy.
It’s as easy as countering a loudmouth’s pronouncements with a pithy remark such as, “Oh, did you get that from one of the writers that belonged to the gang that made sure they all agreed upon what their stories and lies would be in advance?”
Well, that’s not exactly pithy, but you get the point. It’ll be hard for folks to forget it if people keep bringing it up, is all I’m sayin’…
Comment by Rick on 7/21 @ 10:10 am #
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:01 am
Mr. Feet,
I more or less respectfully disagree. Please specify a Breitbart lie, dishonest or deceitful action.
He’d be crazy to edit out the “good stuff” from a tape the NAACP effectively owns. Why would anyone dream that an admin that boasts a tool such as Eric Holder would spin on a dime to fire such a minor official?
Furthermore, Breitbart is stalking Big Game–the pimps at NAACP–not the small fry.
Cordially…
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 10:14 am #
happyfeet,
Breitbart neither ruined this woman’s life nor lynched her. His characterization of her address to the NAACP audience was off base, to be sure, and his video clip incomplete.
But the immediate reaction of the NAACP, who owned the entire original clip by the way, Vilsack, and the White House cannot be laid at AB’s feet. He doesn’t control their actions or reactions.
And there are some, among this commentariat even, who disagree with you regarding the reactions of Sherrod’s audience; and feel like there should have been protestations instead of uh-huh-ing.
Andrew Breitbart is not “The Tea Party”. The Tea Party has still not ruined the lives of any black women. And neither has Andrew Breitbart.
Your whole position on this has hardedned, and become very strident in a rather short interval. Have you been listening to the NPR spin on this on your way to work or something? Are there protesters on every street corner in L.A. calling for Breitbart’s head? I don’t get it.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 10:16 am #
And wasn’t the Sherrod imbroglio yesterday’s thread topic anyway? Isn’t today’s topic the filthy schemeing writers on journolist and their propaganda cabal?
Just asking…
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:16 am #
Breitbart challenged the NAACP, and his video was aimed at them. There were clearly racist elements within the audience who approved of Sherrod’s claims of discriminating based on race. They had no advance idea where she was going with her story.
No white person would have gotten away with statements like hers. You’d never have a chance to finish.
c.f. niggardly
Comment by Squid on 7/21 @ 10:19 am #
there was nothing wrong with Shirley’s audience…
Really, feets? ‘Cuz from where I’m sitting, they were nodding along to a story about discriminating against an old white guy on account of how he was an old white guy. Now, you can say that in context, Sherrod’s story was about redemption and overcoming old prejudices, but even in that context, the audience is still playing along and approving of the setting and the story. Perhaps, if we’re willing to grant Sherrod the benefit of the doubt, the audience came away from her speech re-thinking their prejudices, but that doesn’t for one moment change the fact that they demonstrated those prejudices at the time.
If NAACP doesn’t want to be painted as racist, they need to look at their membership and their values. Changing the name of the organization wouldn’t hurt, either.
Comment by Carin on 7/21 @ 10:19 am #
Breitbart acted hastily and fired Sherrod?
I didn’t know he had that power.
Comment by Squid on 7/21 @ 10:21 am #
And really, who cares what the evidence shows, anyway? I say we keep calling them all racists and make them deny it. It’s the Journolist way!
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:33 am #
Rick the lies were in Breitbart’s intimation that she was using her federal position to keep the white man down. This was a lie. And everyone knows it was a lie.
Look Mr. Squid… interpreting “crowd reaction” is a very silly game… if they trusted the goodness of Shirley then they could trust she wasn’t leading them down a path of vile racisms and they were free to chuckle as the saw fit. The attention deficit tea toddlers would whine like little bitches if they were held to the malicious giggle standard.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 10:33 am #
The clip Breitbart posted initially had language appended to it making Shirley appear to have been describing what she did as part of her Federal job, no? One late in the day Daily Caller article seems to pin the Youtube posting on someone who works for Breitbart and hints that it was this fellow that wrote the offending language. Drawback? Maybe. We can’t say whether Breitbart himself wrote that language. Did he see it before it was posted? Betcha he did.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:33 am #
as *they* saw fit
Comment by Carin on 7/21 @ 10:33 am #
We’ve learned from the best, Squid.
You Maccaca.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:33 am #
yes it did have language appended in the video
Comment by Carin on 7/21 @ 10:35 am #
Happy, the story may not have been ACTUALLY TRUE as it first appeared, but it was truthy.
Fake, but accurate.
And, Breitbart didn’t fire her. Obama sure did rather fast.
Funny, that.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:36 am #
Let’s also not forget there is at least one edit in the ‘full’ video, and it is not at an inconsequential moment.
The NAACP needs to explain that edit.
Comment by Carin on 7/21 @ 10:37 am #
But, this is pointless. This post is about something else. I think I’m just gonna have to disagree with you.
State that I want Breitbart to keep doing what he’s been doing.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:37 am #
Mr. Reed when that woman rolled out of bed this morning she had no job to go to for all we know and there are people talking shit about her all over the internets including me for some of it and in so doing I have brought shame upon my head.
No Mr. Reed I slept on it and wrong is wrong and what was done on this woman was wrong.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:38 am #
Let’s not forget that yesterday the NAACP clearly denounced that problematic audience reaction.
They need to explain why that reaction is being taken ‘out of context.’
Comment by Carin on 7/21 @ 10:38 am #
And, big gov does have the entire video (or what they claim is) on the top of their page.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 10:39 am #
“Andrew Breitbart is not “The Tea Party”. The Tea Party has still not ruined the lives of any black women.”
Who is the Tea Party? I could be. You could be Bob. How about dicentra? Or serr8d? happyfeet? Who else? Jim Hoft maybe? Well lots of people. Not a few of whom we might not be wrong to suspect of paying rather more attention to the Shirley Sherrod fiasco than will be helpful.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:40 am #
Back on topic Ackerman needs to be challenged on this every time he opens his mouth.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:40 am #
we can agree to disagree Carin I wish we could just have a post about that shameless Coast Guard pussy boy’s whoring for BP because hardly anyone seems to be aware what is happening for all the Shirleyness. This Hung Nguyen piece of shit is doing many harms to my people as well as injustice and someone needs to tell the little bitch to back the fuck off.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:41 am #
I’m the part of the Tea Party what is concerned about the spending not the Shirley.
Comment by Carin on 7/21 @ 10:44 am #
I’m not really all that invested in the Shirley story.
I did just hear a bit on Rush’s show though about how she got phone calls from the administration to resign immediately. Seems pretty shitty. I mean, they’ve let HOlder be first class racist for 18 months now. And she’s gone w/in hours. Perhaps I should focus on sexism here?
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 10:47 am #
If he does, he ought to be the fucking President. Let’s get the nincompoops out of the way and get a mind-controlling Jew in there. That sumbitch would get things set right, I tell ya.
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Comment by bigbooner on 7/21 @ 10:51 am #
From where I sit I am looking at a guy who is actually out there doing something about Acorn and the NAACP. And then I see someone like Happyfeet who wants to whine that Breitbart is not drinking his tea with pinkie extended. Who do I want on my side?
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 10:51 am #
No, class. She’s a backwoods nigger that’s actually interested in farming. Can you imagine? Damned near a redneck, she is. Probably never even been to Cambridge, let alone sat in a lecture with the great Charles Ogletree.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 10:54 am #
What did Charlie ask Barry that got the Journolist’s panties in a twist? Well this, for starters. Transcript:
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:54 am #
no Mr. booner this is not what Mr. G has learned us. And there is nothing wrong with doing the pinky thing.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 11:00 am #
And George:
Barry doesn’t answer that question about how much Rev Wright loves America (though at this point we might wonder whether the two aren’t a couple of congruent triangles) but he says instead:
Comment by bigbooner on 7/21 @ 11:04 am #
Mr. Happy, you are doing nothing more than trying to change the narrative. After watching groups like Acorn and NAACP practice total dishonesty with the full consent and ass covering from the mainstream media it is hard to get too upset with Mr. Breitbart. This whole focus should be on the behavior of these groups. I am tired of playing by their rules. You remind me of a criminal who has been caught and then tries to shift focus on anything other than himself. Nothing succeeds like excess.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 7/21 @ 11:04 am #
Bob Reed,
No, Bob, the topic of the thread is whatever happyfeet wants it to be. Have fun trying to wrest it away from him.
Comment by irongrampa on 7/21 @ 11:05 am #
One thing, the unprecedented reaction by the WH (firing of Ms Sherrod in an eyeblink) is unsettling. Almost as if there was something bubbling just below the surface that was best not exposed.
I’d bet that if some curious person Googled Pigford, that curious person might find something TRULY eyebrow raising. Not entirely sure, just sayin….
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 11:07 am #
Has anyone in the MFM reported on the JournoList story?
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 11:09 am #
I was kind of working at that point sdferr. No one of us speaks for the Tea Party, per se; unless it has morphed from a greassroots kind of entity into something else, and I didn’t notice it. And there are a lot of people paying attention to this fiasco, to be sure, and there are some who aren’t doing so in helpful ways.
The point I was really trying to make is that no one controlled the actions of the administration and NAACP when they threw Ms. Sherrod under the bus, except those who did the reacting. Did they fear public opinion? Most likely. Were they reacting in an irrational “CYA” fashion? Clearly. Especially in the case of the NAACP who condemned Ms. Sherrod and the audience, when they owned the tape of the whole event.
No one, not Andrew Breitbart, nor anyone associated with the Tea Party forced them to react and deal with Ms. Sherrod the way they did; unless, of course, Ben Jealous, Vilsack, or Barack Obama have recently become members of a local tea party :)
Breitbart got the story wrong when he characterized her as acting with racists intent while employed by the feds. He should apologize for that. But he didn’t “get her fired”, nor cost her her job. She’s unemployed this morning because her superiors chose that outcome, for political reasons; and political apointees have always served at the pleasure of their superiors. And, although of no consolation, she isn’t the first person who’s admission of past racism, or other frowned upon behavior, has cost them a public job.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 11:13 am #
Drat! greassroots = grassroots. I miss my administrative warfare specialist…
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 11:15 am #
Greaseroots would work though. Just ask JD. The pig is our friend on account of giving us so many good morsels to eat. heh
Comment by geoffb on 7/21 @ 11:16 am #
The edited tape, the immediate firing and now the reconsideration of the firing while blaming the firing on AB is why I see this as being an orchestrated event. An operation to sting the one who stung them.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 11:17 am #
They thought it was a flare up in their little race war. Turns out it was a car backfiring.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 7/21 @ 11:17 am #
The point I was really trying to make is that no one controlled the actions of the administration and NAACP when they threw Ms. Sherrod under the bus, except those who did the reacting. Did they fear public opinion? Most likely. Were they reacting in an irrational “CYA” fashion? Clearly. Especially in the case of the NAACP who condemned Ms. Sherrod and the audience, when they owned the tape of the whole event.
No one, not Andrew Breitbart, nor anyone associated with the Tea Party forced them to react and deal with Ms. Sherrod the way they did…Well said, Bob.
That ought to be the final word on that particular subject, but I’m certain it won’t be.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 7/21 @ 11:18 am #
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^^missing from the above^^
Comment by Joe on 7/21 @ 11:19 am #
I am going to define these Obamaphiles as dirty fuckers. I am surprised Hillary did niot torpedo Barack over Jeremiah Wright. She did try but way too late.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 11:20 am #
geoffb, would they undertake a thing that makes them look so utterly incompetent for the privilege of wagging a finger at Breitbart? I’m not ruling it out, mind you, but I do have to wonder. They’ve never needed a particularly compelling reason to demagogue a critic before.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 11:22 am #
Perhaps my own object of focus isn’t apropos Bob.
However, when I ask myself the rhetorical question “Are people generally forming the opinion that the Tea Party folks — imprecisely defined or indistinct though they may be — are the Tea Party folks giving the Shirley Sherrod story the cold shoulder, are they turning their backs on that story en masse? Or are they diving in to take it up as a topic of interest?” I’m not so sanguine that it’s the former more than the latter.
Comment by Rick on 7/21 @ 11:28 am #
“The attention deficit tea toddlers would whine like little bitches if they were held to the malicious giggle standard.”
Mr. Feet
You mean they aren’t? Or all conservatives aren’t.
How long have you followed public discourse?
Cordially…
P.S. If Breitbart assumed Ms. Sherrod was speaking of a contemporaneous action, then he very much erred. But that doesn’t make him a liar. It would be a heedless liar to make such an easy refutiated claim, what with all the liberated geniuses of JournoList working very much independently and bravely to unearth The Truth.
Comment by geoffb on 7/21 @ 11:29 am #
I’m waiting to see how the MSM and the White House plays the narrative. That we see them as being incompetent does not mean that will be the take away from this episode.
Comment by Squid on 7/21 @ 11:32 am #
On behalf of Tea Partiers everywhere, I’m saying that the whole lot are racist scum. You should have heard the racist epithets they all hurled at Tom Coburn when he was walking into the Capitol. Shameful!
Comment by LTC John on 7/21 @ 11:33 am #
I really want to see more of the JurnoList archives now – what other figures will be shown in all their shabby colors? The mewling infants on that list need to own their words and actions.
I’d love to ask Wired’s publisher what he thinks of Mr. Ackerman now?
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 11:33 am #
Racist leftist are so yesterday. Structural problems like JounoList and the MFM are much more insidious.
Comment by Squid on 7/21 @ 11:35 am #
I mean, really, the NAACP just adopted a new motto of See How The Cracker Crumbles. It’s all included in a bunch of internal documents that a friend of mine saw. But don’t expect all the whitey-haters to turn over those documents without a subpoena. Racist bastards!
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 11:48 am #
Back on topic: OBAMA WINS!!!
Journolist is my new favorite show.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 11:56 am #
I dunno sdferr,
Again, maybe I’m too optimistic, but I believe that the response yesterday and today, especially from guys like O’Reilly, Beck, some of the National Review guys, that Ms. Sherrod recieved short shrift from the administrtion and NAACP, who both had access to greater information than Breitbart, and are calling for the wrongs to be righted is a strong indication that the right side fo the political spectrum is willing to play hardball, but want’s to deal in a universe of facts and not spin fabricated narratives out of imaginary cloth-no matter how utilitarian or expedient.
And although I haven’t visted his site today, what I hear about AB posting the whole video, makes me think that he’s owning it and doing the right thing.
In fact, I believe the entire imbroglio stands in deliciously stark contrast to the machinations of the journolist cadre, and can even be useful to contrast and lead the subject back towards the who journolist propagandists; which in any universe of reason, a story regarding the wholesale hijacking and fashioning of the information the public was intended to hear objectivly, by thye very people entrusted because of their alleged ethics and integrity, for the sole benefit of a particular political ideology, would be front and center in the zeitgeist anyway.
But, meh, what do I know. I’m just a squishy RINO, who can’t see that the civil war has laready begun, and who would be unreliable in a foxhole anyway…
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 11:57 am #
Does Ackerman own shares in PPG? Corning? What’s his deal? I’d like to introduce him to my friend F. Bastiat though.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 11:58 am #
Man! I’m so sorry for all the typos and missing commas in #73. I guess I’m gonna have to hire a typist…
I’ll stimulate the economy!
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 12:00 pm #
I wonder when, Bob, A. Breitbart realized that the spin he or his minions put on this story wasn’t consistent with the truth? And, supposing that was yesterday some time, why he hadn’t issued an out and out apology at that point, rather than deflect with “this isn’t about Shirley S. but about blah blah blah etc” instead?
Comment by Spiny Norman on 7/21 @ 12:01 pm #
It’s Invincible Ignorance, Rick, and one of the reasons I hardly read the PW comments anymore.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 12:05 pm #
Maybe because it wasn’t about Shirley, it was about the NAACP. Ben Jealous certainly didn’t miss his point.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 12:07 pm #
Maybe no one is calling for Breitbart to apologize to Mrs S then huh Pablo? I guess that must be it.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 12:07 pm #
That Thpenther is just tho butch!
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 12:08 pm #
Shirley doesn’t seem to be. Does anyone else matter?
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 12:12 pm #
“Shirley doesn’t seem to be. Does anyone else matter?”
Why should Shirley have to call for an apology in order to be rightly due one? And why, if other people see what they believe to be an injustice, should their opinions be discounted to a nullity? That doesn’t sound like the usual path of these sorts of things to me.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 12:14 pm #
Why would she call for an apology from someone she doesn’t seem to blame?
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 12:16 pm #
I’m not up on what Shirley’s opinion of Breitbart’s posting is Pablo. Have you got text on that or stuff she’s had to say about it?
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 12:18 pm #
That’s a good question, and we’ll see sdferr.
I’m pretty sure Breitbart will have to post a retraction, at the very least, for the misleading info about her USDA job duties and race, etc. But, in the vein of some of our earlier discussions, he may not see a need to apologize for the fallout of airing a video clip.
Me personally? I would apologize for alleging that her work at USDA was colored by any racialist intent, when there was no proof to support the statement. But that’s just how I roll; I generally value the truth, even if its revelation doesn’t serve my benefit.
But, I wouldn’t write off Breitbart as a propagandist; an error was either made by him, or in his name. I’m certain though, he will exercise more editorial caution, either directly or through trusted assistants, in the future.
His name is all he has, and he can’t afford to let it get besmirched like some of the MFM dinosuars or the journolist juice-box bunch.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 12:22 pm #
Breitbart’s own opinion of his act counts too, I suppose, perhaps as much in this matter as Shirley’s own. So if he thinks he should apologize then I suppose he will do so. If he doesn’t think he should apologize then I suppose he won’t.
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 12:23 pm #
I wonder if Ackerdouchenozzle ever wrote about the incendiary violence-inducing rhetoric of the Right.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 12:27 pm #
She says this, about her situation and the NAACP.
I’m sure you’ve also heard her repeated insistence that she was forced out by the White House. If she’s said a cross word about Breitbart, I haven’t heard it.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 12:29 pm #
Neither have I. So we don’t know what her opinion of Breitbart is. She may blame him or she may not.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 12:32 pm #
And yet we know she blames the NAACP and the White House, having said as much. But she might blame Breitbart too. You never know.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 12:35 pm #
I don’t care who Shirley blames I blame Andrew for his stupid dishonest video what he released in the Tea Party’s name what further embroiled our tea pals in Racial Controversy.
Comment by Mike LaRoche on 7/21 @ 12:37 pm #
So the Tea Partiers should just adopt a policy of BOHICA when leftards call them racists. Brilliant.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 12:43 pm #
the leftards call everyone who disagrees with them racists
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 12:44 pm #
Where does it say that Breitbart was doing it in the Tea Party’s name, happyfeet? The post says a lot of things, but not that; at least I didn’t catch it if it did.
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That’s about the extent of references I saw in the post regarding the tea-party. Is there some others I’m missing that you know about? If so, I’d be much obliged if you pointed me in their direction.
Comment by Kevin B on 7/21 @ 12:48 pm #
I can’t believe you guys keep arguing with mobyfeet. He trashes anyone who tries any pushback against the leftists and any attempt to persuade him that he might be overreacting just a touch gets ‘pushed back twice as hard’
FFS just ignore the concern troll and get back to the real discussion.
(O.K., I just commented about the moby, but only to say stop answering the moby. It doesn’t work.)
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 12:49 pm #
I’m really glad that happyfeet was able to turn this thread into an examination of breitbart’s character regarding the NAACP/USDA story, rather than focusing on the topic of the post in which it has been revealed that a number of journalists acted in a way that is astonishingly unethical. Almost like there is an agenda to keep the focus on a particular side of the political equation.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 12:52 pm #
this post?
he makes it a lot clear that he’s doing this on behalf of the party of tea
It’s the hurtful lies about the Tea Party what Andy wanted to counter by slandering Shirley as a practicing racist.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 12:54 pm #
- Whatever feets intentions are, or were, are academic now. The WH just issued the biggest mea copa seen out of Whasington in the last 50 years.
- I think the events of the past few days will resound through the next 2 years in a way no one could have anticipated.
Comment by Matt on 7/21 @ 12:55 pm #
Well they’re now saying the NAACP president was there at the speech so the rush to judgment is looking even worse.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 12:57 pm #
Yeah, I’m just not seeing it. Simply mentioning the tea-party is not him stating he’s going to bat for them. YMMV.
But, many folks are right in that this discussion should not pollute this thread. So, anyone who want’s to discuss the Breitbart/Sherrod/NAACP imbroglio, stay on yesterdays thread.
Henceforth, let’s keep this one focused squarely on the journolist propagandists.
Thanks to all.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 1:01 pm #
- Gibbs is basically saying that we all, including the Progressives and NAACP and the WH and everyone have got to stop rushing to judgement and cool the rhetoric.
- That’s a message to the Left to knock it off because its hurting the Democrats, not helping.
- Personally, as the rift between the party and their elistist masters widens I don’t see the Dems being able to control them.
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 1:06 pm #
Pablo – thanks for that link. The dailycaller is doing a most outstanding job of outing those little twits.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 1:25 pm #
I would think that a NPR affiliate would be embarrassed to find out they they employed someone whose reaction to watching Rush Limbaugh suffering a heart attack would be to laugh. In a world which made sense something like that would make her damn near unemployable as a journalist.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 1:25 pm #
The latest DC piece may add some data on the questions John Bradley raised at the tail-end of the “private property” thread. Celebrating Obama’s victory they look like true believers anywhere: the question is though, true believers in what? Do they believe the creepy stories they make up about their opposition or the possession of power and with it, the capacity to seek whatever ends they choose?
After having a few days to think it over, Michael Hirsh chimes in with some shear retarded lunacy:
Comment by LTC John on 7/21 @ 1:25 pm #
I wonder how long the Daily Caller will be able to play these delicious bits out? I suspect we will see a topic or two a day for …. some time to come.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 1:27 pm #
The more, the better, I say Col. John.
Comment by EJD on 7/21 @ 1:34 pm #
I don’t care who Shirley blames I blame Andrew for his stupid dishonest video
Still trying to figure out which part of Breitbart’s video/post was dishonest…
Comment by The Lost Dog on 7/21 @ 1:45 pm #
Breitbart clearly stated on fox News that the bone he was picking was NOT with Shirley, but with the NAALCP. He was emphatic that, no matter that her story came out in a different place, he was not interested in her, per se.
Comment by geoffb on 7/21 @ 1:46 pm #
Just asking questions.
Is “Journolist”, which was originally outed quite awhile ago and has most likely been reconstituted with a more restricted membership, simply the magicians moving hand that we are to watch while the real trick is done unseen?
Why would anyone assume or think that this listserve is the only one or even among the most influential?
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 1:51 pm #
- feets is apparently content to lurk in the two small corners painted with the actions of the BP bad guys, and insisting on focusing on the messenger of bad news for the Progressives.
- Shirley isn’t sitting still, she’s already moved way beyond that, and if I were her I’d make all the bastards right on up to Bumbblefuck twist slowly in the breeze.
- The longer Mobama remains silent og his duplicity and totally wrong handling of this, something his press secretary left zero room for him to wiggle out of, the worse the damage.
- So much for tes party racism. I don’t expect you’ll hear too much about that Leftist attack for awhile.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/21 @ 1:55 pm #
Rev Wright: Hillary ain’t never been called a nigger!!
Parishner: He’s my pastor and I trust him, he’s gonna turn this into a heartwarming tale of redemption.
Rev. Wright: Bill did us like he did Monica, he was ridin’ dirty.
Parishner: He’s going to talk about chariot rides of redemption, here it comes.
Rev. Wright: America’s chickens are coming home to roost!
Parishner: Did I get the chicken out for dinner?
Rev. Wright: Whitey gave the black man diabeatiss as an experiment.
Parishner: Here comes the redemption! Give it to me Reverend!
Rev. Wright: God Damn America, God Damn America, it says it in the Bible!
Parishner: Hmph. I called that one wrong.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 1:58 pm #
I’m not saying nuffin cause then you’ll blame me for derailing your thread what is derailed. I wish I had musics here ever since Apple effed up lala and stole my monies I don’t have anywhere for musics.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 2:00 pm #
- That’s the positive I see coming out of this feets.
- I think the Left is being told directly right now to STFU about tea party racism bullshit.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 2:05 pm #
Don’t worry though. If you want to know about the Journolist from CBS, they’ll just tell you that it’s much ado about nothing.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/21 @ 2:11 pm #
I’m marinating in the irony. Remember back in the day when our old friend Karl did yeoman work on laying out the philosophical underpinnings of Wright’s church and Obama’s connections there? If you recall it earned Karl an ongoing tirade of “Racist” from a certain deranged, persistent troll.
Hey! Maybe Ackerman was the God of Thunder!
Comment by Gaff on 7/21 @ 2:11 pm #
Just wanted to scroll all the way down to see if happy was still chugging out journolist’s preferred talking points. Disappointed to see that he is to say the least.
As for Journolist? Yeah, I’m not in the least surprised. How else was nearly every major newspaper and news talk show on point and always on the same talking points like they had a hive mind? Because they did. And still do. The hatred/violence aspects of their writing is a reflection of the blackness the abyss staring back at them.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 2:16 pm #
CNN OTOH, doesn’t think that a group of journalists conspiring on how to frame stories or lie to avoid reporting them isn’t something that the audience would be interested in learning. It isn’t news you see.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 7/21 @ 2:44 pm #
Comment by geoffb on 7/21 @ 1:46 pm #
I assume there are other listservs or e-mail round robins out there. It is too easy and it makes too much sense. On the other hand, I don’t have any great expectations that it will be any better than JournoList or that the members of those possible other lists will display any greater competence than the JournoList folks. And at some time in the future someone is going to out those other lists out of greed, fear, ideology, anger and – more likely – sheer idiocy, like sending a list to someone and whoops! Got it to the wrong guy.
I recall a few years back an Australian law firm had two secretarys end up in an e-mail hate-fest that eventually was traded around to every other employee in the firm, and then to people outside the firm, and then around the world…
The old rules still apply – never miss an opportunity to shut-up.
Comment by Jeremiah Wright on 7/21 @ 2:46 pm #
Fuck you cracker bitches!
Comment by Spencer Ackerman on 7/21 @ 2:51 pm #
Racist crackers again. I blame Bush.
Comment by BJTexs on 7/21 @ 2:57 pm #
Does pretending to be a journalist qualify one as a war criminal or … just a shameless hack?
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 2:59 pm #
I vote propagandistic hack, shill, and water carrier par excellance.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 3:06 pm #
Not that it matters, because the only people who would find out about this are those who already care enough to want to know. It’ll die on the vine and nothing will change.
The other side of the endless beat downs of one particular side of an equation, the constant negativity associated with it is that some will just get tired of it all. It’s all so inevitable, so why continue to be invested in it?
Comment by george smiley on 7/21 @ 3:12 pm #
“Good news everybody” yes that’s my Professor Farnsworth voice, Boehner is denouncing Breitbart, these folks are sharp as a tack, because remember there is no legitimate reason to oppose Obama, the non existent Tea Party violence, notwithstanding
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 3:17 pm #
Boehner. Actually, he creepily couches his criticism in an empty way that can be construed backwards toward whoever gave Breitbart the edited tape, or, as the DC puts it, not mentioning Breitbart by name but only imputation supplied by Boehner’s auditors.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/21 @ 3:53 pm #
I’m smiling, but it’s a wry, sad smile.
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 3:56 pm #
Boehner is an idiot.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/21 @ 3:56 pm #
SCOOP!
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 4:05 pm #
I was only talking about that was said today Jeff. All here know you’ve been talking about this kind of stuff for years!
You should write a long, “I told you so”, post so we can pimp it all around the internet.
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/21 @ 4:08 pm #
I’d rather not. Being right and outraged after the fact is where the money is. The big pile on.
I’m learning!
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 4:09 pm #
I’ve seen the bright get duller I’m not going to spend my life being a color!
Comment by Jeff G. on 7/21 @ 4:11 pm #
Incidentally, the stuff about the fourth estate using the imprimatur of “neutral” and “objective” reporting to work its partisan advocacy was an argument I had with Glenn Greenwald back when he was just a mere blogger. 2004-05 or thereabouts.
You can guess which side I was on, and which he was on. Then look where he ended up and where I’ve ended up.
Well played, Jeff!
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 4:16 pm #
But how else will anyone but your commentariat know that you’re right and outraged after the fact if you don’t profess that you told everyone so?
Say it loud! Your right and outraged and proud!
And then tell ‘em you want your effin’ check…
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 4:17 pm #
Did any of the network news programs offer anything about JournoList?
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 4:19 pm #
Hmmmmmm. That was before my time reading here. I’ll have to look that one up, to get a taste of the smackdown.
And didn’t Greenwald have to leave the country anyway?
You could easily get a deal like his, except that you’re not a sell-out.
Comment by george smiley on 7/21 @ 4:21 pm #
Unfortunately, you can be terribly wrong on pretty much everything (Greenwald) and they will quote on the Senate floor, ‘toads the wet sprocket”
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 4:23 pm #
nothing’s so loud as hearing when we lie
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 4:32 pm #
I think this evening, after get back from Busch Stadium, I will endeavor to find articles and posts and thingies where Spencer Ackerdouchenozzle writes about the violent incendiary rhetoric of the teabaggers and how their racisms are coarsening the debate and will lead to violence.
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 5:27 pm #
I would love to volunteer to test out whether or not Spencer Ackerfuckface had the intestinal fortitude to smash me into a window and take a picture of my bloody carcass.
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 5:28 pm #
But first, I must watch my beloved Cardinals pummel the Pillies. Again.
Comment by Rusty on 7/21 @ 5:37 pm #
You missed the point feets. Breitbart is the White Houses OODA loop. He called the tune to the little dance they’re doing.
Comment by Darleen on 7/21 @ 5:44 pm #
I think I finally have a handle on how grieferfoot acts..
He’s the Islamist dad who jealously watches his unmarried 20 something daughter for any sign of doing something dishonorable … oh, all those other undaughter girls out there, for sure do all manner of dishonorable things. So what? But let daughter wear some lipstick, or hike her skirt just a little too high and Grieferfeet will scream “LIAR! SLUT!!” while weilding a 2×4 across her skull.
Leftist media hacks wondering on Journolist how to shut out and shut up those that dare disagree with them? Screw that, we have some not-pure-enough conservatives to beatup!
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 5:48 pm #
you’re a weirdo
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 5:50 pm #
Okay, that was just strange.
Comment by BuddyPC on 7/21 @ 5:50 pm #
138. Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 4:32 pm #
I think this evening, after get back from Busch Stadium, I will endeavor to find articles and posts and thingies where Spencer Ackerdouchenozzle writes about the violent incendiary rhetoric of the teabaggers and how their racisms are coarsening the debate and will lead to violence.
What’s getting me all day isn’t that Spencer Ackerman betrays Alinsky Ideal #13 of Being Held To Their Own Ideal, in repeatedly calling for violence that would alarm the Southern Poverty Law Center all over the leaked JLs ; it’s that reading this pusscake, who’d have trouble putting his own shadow through a plate-glass window, so prominently flexing his web muscles only when he’s sure no one is looking.
Comment by JD on 7/21 @ 6:05 pm #
Buddy – that is why I volunteered. See if he has any spine, any stones.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 6:10 pm #
It’s not that weird, hf. You do tend to try to move the conversation back to how much and for what reasons various members of those that lean right are sucky sucky sucky. Perhaps you are unaware you are doing it.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 6:11 pm #
Finally had a chance to watch the whole (edited) video. Shirley Sherrod blamed opposition to Obamacare on racism. She also engaged in open partisanship while speaking as a representative of the USDA. She is the racist who deserves no defense.
She needed to lose her job (for the Hatch act violation) it is a shame the Obama administration botched the job with their rush to get her under the bus solely to cover their own asses.
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 6:14 pm #
hf ackbar
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 6:16 pm #
Mr. Makewi if you have not been pondering the suckage of the right then you have not been pondering America.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 6:17 pm #
or the U.K.
Comment by mcgruder on 7/21 @ 6:17 pm #
Breitbart fucked up, awfully.
Boehlert kicked his ass going away.
Breitbart’s posting of that video was just low-down dirty. I love(d) the guy, but really, at his core, he deserves Media Matters.
If Sherrod had gotten up there and the entirety of her speech was how she screwed whitey, then fine. But he missed a lot of context.
Journolist, on the other hand, is getting A LOT more intereting. As a MSM’er, the cards that can be played against anyone who works at a place like Bloomberg or Time and who is posting there are considerable.
Is anyone really surprised to see a bunch of jackasses like Alterman, Ackerman et al., and law professors, acting like jackasses?
I was surprised to see people who have beat coverage responsibility in politics showing up there and posting. That is true career jeopardy.
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 6:22 pm #
hahahaha fu rulingclassmedia
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 6:23 pm #
Pondering the suckage of the right is as breathing. Doing so almost exclusively while the current incarnation of the left, whom I might remind currently holds the reigns of power, the academy and 90% of the press, and is a sucking chest wound, well….
Priorities I guess.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 6:25 pm #
That is true career jeopardy.
Really? Because I get the impression that if only the right cares that means that no one cares.
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Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 6:25 pm #
and reuters they’re out there telling the “truth”
link
from hf
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 6:40 pm #
Reuters contribution to the journolist story. Whereas when Paul Krugman helpfully provides a quote about tea party racism and the “right wing noise machine”, that shit is NEWS.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 6:44 pm #
that is so vastly unfair to say exclusively but the truth is the final triumph of fascism in America will come from the acquiescence of the right not from an overwhelming victory of the left
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 6:47 pm #
Did you watch Mr Ryan’s address yet hf?
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 6:49 pm #
no but it’s bookmarked I have to figure out if I have something to wear Friday or if I have to go shopping then I will make a martini and watch
Comment by serr8d on 7/21 @ 6:49 pm #
Respectfully I disagree. The reaction to that video is a wonderful thing to behold; the White House, Benjamin Jerrylouse and the NAACP had their chains yanked like undernourished puppets. Best, though, the hit given to the sinister specter of weaponized RAAAAACISM, which likely took the biggest hit of all.
Who else was going to trot racism out for a good spring cleaning? Obama?
Breitbart succeeded where Obama failed. Give the devil his due.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 7/21 @ 6:49 pm #
Does Reuters have ANY of those pix? Even if they do, so the fuck what. It’s all a distraction. These shit heads do not want to talk policy/history/governance. They want to muddy everything with subjective bunk such as racism. Here’s a little “not so” secret, though. There are some racists in the tea party movement? Why? Because it’s made up of fucking human beings. There are racists in the NAACP. Why? Because they are fucking human beings. Breitbart did fuck up by misrepresenting Sherrod’s employment at the time of her bigoted, er racist, behavior, however. (Semantics in action right there, imo). Why he did that remains to be seen. I’m hoping he’ll give us a reasonable explanation. I understand the whole “alinskying” the left angle, but we have to hold the higher ground, here. And let’s face it. Against the loony proggs, it shouldn’t be so hard to hold that ground. But, it’s my opinion, too, that the greater cause here was highlighting the hypocrisy of the NAACP and not the Sherrod woman. She was a pawn. Nothing else.
As for the journolist fucks. I’ll second JD’s tact, here. Should ackerman, or any of his fellow illiterates, like to attempt to shove any part of me anywhere, be my guest. Jeff’s “snap, not tap” admonition would be made flesh. I do hope that dailycaller keeps it up. This is good stuff and it will reach the lazy masses if pushed with persistence.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 6:50 pm #
Sure, happyfeet, whatever you say.
Comment by mcgruder on 7/21 @ 6:50 pm #
Makewi: Quoting Krugman is the new Gloria Steinhem. A quick, cheap easy on-the-record quote on anything at anytime that is designed to discredit the right (or traditional models of behavior pace Steinhem.) It is, as a former beat-reporter, transcendentally lazy. There ARE good editors who send their reporters copy back with that edited out and the demand to get more, or better, or chop the graf.
It’s not that there isn’t a wide streak of dishonesty on the left’s approach to dialogue (call “racist” repeatedly, for instance), its just that it doesnt excuse Breitbart’s laziness.
Bloomberg cares a lot, a real lot, about that sort of thing. I dont know the reporter, nor his beat, from B’berg that was quoted on DC, but if it was politics, he’s organically screwed. Time and Newsweek should care. They are, quite literally, dying however and have other priorities.
The ruling class media is dying. It doesnt give New Media the right to lie.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 6:52 pm #
yes.
Comment by Mike LaRoche on 7/21 @ 6:53 pm #
No.
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 6:53 pm #
the rulingclassmedia critics are complaining about a business model that works
Comment by guinsPen on 7/21 @ 6:54 pm #
WERE good editors.
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 6:55 pm #
show me andy b’s “lie”?
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 6:55 pm #
“The ruling class media. . .”
That was a pretty damned sturdy piece wasn’t it? heh
Comment by mcgruder on 7/21 @ 6:56 pm #
Look Serr8d, I like Breitbart. I really, really do.
But he at absolute best oversold here. I think its more pernicious than that though.
This dumb Sherrod woman was making an asinine point, and in a tortuous fashion, but there was a lot more there.
Look, there is a lot of good to come of taking the NAACP out for a walk–Lord knows they have done it to enough people. But he didnt accomplish it and, in all likelihood, screwed up badly whatever else he hopes to accomplish going forward.
When you become your enemy, its a bad thing.
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 6:56 pm #
me this looks like an naaalcp/obama sting that went bad. cue the sting music
Comment by serr8d on 7/21 @ 6:57 pm #
Come on, Mcgruder. Alinsky tactics succeed if you don’t return fire.
Breitbart is a sheepdog. Stop trying to spray paint him white.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 6:58 pm #
Andy B. promised he’d take my sister to prom but when it got close he said he’d already asked someone else a month ago and he forgot.
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 6:59 pm #
i like how these journolist types don’t think to ask who gave andy b the tape and what their motives might be?
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 7:01 pm #
islamic hater that’s you
Comment by mcgruder on 7/21 @ 7:07 pm #
169–sadly, yes.
170-the entire video should have been released and referenced, directly and in an accessible fashion.
By proclaiming, in tabloid style, that all this Sherrod woman did in her speech was shit on whitey was dishonest. he should have made clear that there was a larger issue she was–ham-handedly–trying to make.
He does have a plank to stand on–the entire NAACP room seemed totally cool with her anger at whites and it does support an aspect of his point. Still, it was near the borderlands of rank dishonesty.
A really honest account of the issue would have taken into account she comes from West Point, Ga., on the Alabama border, is about 60 and probably at her core has a few legitimate beefs against poor rural Whites in that area.
Obama sucks and the NAACP, at charitable best, is a museum piece anachronism. There is a better way to shoot at them.
Comment by guinsPen on 7/21 @ 7:08 pm #
You said there ARE.
Comment by mcgruder on 7/21 @ 7:12 pm #
There ARE some, just not as many and they aren’t as respected.
Nothing like it was is for sure.
Comment by Mr. W on 7/21 @ 7:12 pm #
The story is not the idiotic comments made by Sherrod. The story is that we are paying repairations to black “farmers” because we white folks ostesibly made it hard for them to “farm”. Sherrod was fired to keep the program from coming into the light (as if the press would cover it).
The money is paid out to any brother or sister that has a relative that ever owned a piece of rural or semi-rural property.
From the DC Examiner:
“As part of a April 14, 1999 class action case settlement, commonly known as the Pigford case, U.S. taxpayers have already provided over $1 billion in cash, non-credit awards and debt relief to almost 16,000 black farmers who claimed that they were discriminated against by USDA officials as they “farmed or attempted to farm.” In addition, USDA’s Farm Service Agency spent over $166 million on salaries and expenses on this case from 1999-2009, according to agency records.”
It is uglier than you can imagine.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Examiner-Opinion-Zone/Shirley-Sherrods-Disappearing-Act-Not-So-Fast-98846149.html#ixzz0uMxLshuB
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 7:15 pm #
you tell mr. w. big shake down that the baracky did
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 7:18 pm #
I can’t help but note that the after action report describes large craters at both targets. This may be the worst day yet of Robert Gibbs’ job, and it’s really a bad day for the administration, and I also notice a profound absence of NAACP jackasses on the teevee. Shirley Sherrod, and perhaps Breitbart, are laughing all the way to the bank.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 7:20 pm #
that’s probably very fucked up Mr. W but you’ll notice that not a Boehnerfag one thought to raise a red flag
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 7:21 pm #
Right, and that’s a bigger picture, something you dig into, especially if you’re going to fire her or denounce her from the NAACP pulpit (and that they did this while in possession of the entire tape is outrageous and highly amusing.)
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 7:22 pm #
Vote Democrat, ‘feets. It’s the only way out.
Comment by guinsPen on 7/21 @ 7:23 pm #
Yeah, well they’ve all unearned my respect.
Maybe they could try wearing granny glasses.
Kids love ‘em.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 7:26 pm #
But I am not a Democrat Pablo.
Yeesh. People what are Democrats are include Jessica Alba, Jimmy Buffett, my boss person at work, nishizonoshinji, Katie Couric, and Ann Althouse.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 7:26 pm #
I strongly disagree with that, and I’ll note that at the least Tom Vilsack and at best the White House decided to tag along. You know what Ben Jealous is doing today? Trying to figure out how he decided to dive headfirst into an empty pool.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 7:27 pm #
I think the most important take away from all this is that if you were to ask the average person on the street what they thought of the journolist, the likely response would be “the what?”
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 7:27 pm #
Just vote that way anyway, ‘feets. You’ll sleep better.
Comment by guinsPen on 7/21 @ 7:29 pm #
B Holden Sunset Boulevard
Comment by Mr. W on 7/21 @ 7:31 pm #
Sixteen thousand black farmers? Really? We collectively discriminated against all of them?
We are better at keeping the brothers down than I thought. Here in Dc they all drive nicer cars than I do, so I guess the Kapitol Klan better step up its game.
I’ve been prevented from farming due to a poor work ethic. I wish I was black too.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 7:32 pm #
The only way to make sure that the right can’t acquiesce to fascism is to make sure they don’t have any say in the government. So you pretty much have to vote democrat right?
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 7:32 pm #
You’re a bad man, Mr. W. I like that about you.
Comment by urthshu on 7/21 @ 7:34 pm #
erm. Following the Shirley thinger with the usual Lefty 3-step…
-It didn’t happen CHECK
-If it did, it doesn’t matter CHECK
So now I’m gonna say that Lefties do it too.
And now to get my laundrys….
Comment by Mr. W on 7/21 @ 7:35 pm #
The agony of this is that 16,000 black “farmers” can get their gravy-train on to the tune of over a billion dollars, and nobody notices.
We are at the end of the line.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 7:36 pm #
Mr Ryan’s speech from today which is horribly off-topic but makes a note or two about how the country can get itself to fascism.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 7:40 pm #
My typing disease must have infected you sdferr, because I’m sure you meant something other than, “get itself to fascism”…
I didn’t get the impression that his roadmap led there!
Comment by george smiley on 7/21 @ 7:40 pm #
The way you let them frame things, budget cutting will be ‘deemed’ racist, recall what was done to Newt
when he just asked to reduce the rate of growth of government
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 7:41 pm #
ooh I know let’s assrape America*
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 7:42 pm #
Shep Smith on Sherrod: Obama sure does pay close attention to Fox News, huh?
Comment by guinsPen on 7/21 @ 7:43 pm #
Whatever you say, hill’ryfeet.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 7:49 pm #
It only requires that good men do nothing Bob, is all he’s saying.
Comment by Mr. W on 7/21 @ 7:49 pm #
My black ex-boss, who is quite well off, has a son who does well in math. He marvels at the fact that those two facts, black and good at math, when combined together, mean that he will not spend a single penny on his sons college education.
What makes it better is that his wife, a black biologist, gets paid 120,000 a year by a big-pharma company to, as he puts it, shop and go to lunch.
Black and reasonably intellegent is a winning lottery ticket if you just have enough sense to cash it.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 7:52 pm #
yes well that’s just terrible?
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 7:52 pm #
Shirley still doesn’t seem to be interested in an apology from Breitbart. He’s a racist, after all. Or so she told Media Matters.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:01 pm #
that seems like crazytalk for someone what wants a job in government
Comment by george smiley on 7/21 @ 8:02 pm #
Center for Biological Diversity, is one of the Soros org, fronted by Fenton, to nudge us toward economic
’suicide’ as Tom Lantos would put it
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 8:05 pm #
She’s a good lady, ‘feets. Did you forget?
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 8:05 pm #
that’s all you got negress
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:07 pm #
she is a good egg she just is prone to saying stupid things.
We already knew that.
Comment by newrouter on 7/21 @ 8:08 pm #
like rezko hahaha
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:08 pm #
plus y’all are all off-topic this is a Spencer thread get with the program
Comment by Mr. W on 7/21 @ 8:09 pm #
When the government openly makes decisions based on pigmentation, you have simply turned the Klan’s sheets inside out.
All these people convincing themselves that they’re pure enough to wear the Kleagle’s hood without being tainted still doesn’t make it a cowboy hat.
Its still a hood, lefties. Enjoy the rally. You’ll really dig the part where they burn the cross. Because of teh separation.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 8:17 pm #
Like who’s a racist. You almost have to wonder how she wound up speaking to the NAACP. About those racisty racists.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:19 pm #
welcome to their world Pablo it’s been this way for many moons this is not a new thing this is how they roll
we knew that
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:20 pm #
their world meaning the NAACP just to be clear
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 8:21 pm #
Dudes! Iowahawk is firin’ up Aclerman and the other juice-box crew on his twitter feed
http://twitter.com/iowahawkblog
@jtLOL There’s only one way out for Spencer Ackerman in… NOT WITHOUT MY CLEARASIL #AckermanActionFlix
http://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/19104397264
“Klein brings the Brains. Ackerman brings the Muscle. Weigel brings the snacks. JUICEBOX COBRAFORCE 2 ”
http://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/19104026728
“Klein, Ackerman and Weigel together at last in… THE GOOD THE BAD & THE ACNE ”
http://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/19103085780
“Ackerman loves to gab about throwing people thru plate glass, but where is he when it’s game time? Grooming the douche beard, that’s where. ”
There’s a whole lot more on his page, and 90% of them are hilarious. That’s that way to do these putzes in, through ridicule. Their sense of self importance is too great to stand it.
Comment by george smiley on 7/21 @ 8:22 pm #
If you called Obama a socialist, communist, et al during the campaign it was deemed racist, some months
ago, Ogletree one of his former professors, and one of those who attacked judge Thomas, said calling him
‘professor’ was racist as well, meanwhile we really neither hide no hare of any racism, but as Mary Francis Berry, put it, and she forgot the ‘first rule of fight club’ it’s an effective technique for
Democrats
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 8:23 pm #
Sorry to carp so much on JournoList. I’m just alarmed by the resurgence in secret all-white hate organizations.
http://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/19092865634
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 8:25 pm #
Darleen, if you could retrieve my comments from the spam filter, I’d be much obliged.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 8:26 pm #
That is comedy gold.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 8:28 pm #
That they’re stupid? Which, exactly?
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:32 pm #
that they like to call people racists
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:40 pm #
of course the Tea Party’s Andy Brietbart likes to target uppity black women in orchestrated media lynchings what sometimes backfire so fair’s fair I guess
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:41 pm #
*Breitbart* I think that’s the first time I botched that yet
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 8:51 pm #
Them racists at the NAACP sure put her in her place. Good thing the racists in the White House fired her for making that audience look like racists.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 8:51 pm #
Probably because as the leader of the tea party, Breitbart is a racist. Duh.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 8:54 pm #
they hired her back and they own the media and Andrew just gave them a license to gab about race race race until the cows come home to roost
and that is not what we want to be talking about in an election year
Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 7/21 @ 8:56 pm #
I know this is a bloodsport with sky-high stakes and everything, but this whole Sherrod thing fails my Do Unto Others smell test. What was accomplished? An obscure federal munchkin lost her job over nothing. Over nothing, which turned out to be mistaken nothing, at that. As for her bosses, yeesh… Getting fired over your Blackberry while driving, yeah that’s classy. I wouldn’t go back, if I were her, no more that that white bureaucrat did years ago, who got fired by his black boss for saying “niggardly”.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 8:56 pm #
The attempts to spin this as ‘all about Sherrod’ is going to fail.
http://www.dailygut.com/?i=4669
The racists in the glass mansion that is the NAACP are going to regret their latest bout of stone throwing.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 8:57 pm #
Quick now, everybody into the city, the Spartans are coming.
Comment by Makewi on 7/21 @ 8:58 pm #
They don’t need a license. As Democrats, and thus the side of good, they are entitled to talk about it. Didn’t you see the Journolist story regarding the good rev wright? No, probably you didn’t since the MSM has decided it is a non story. Nevermind.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 8:58 pm #
Ah, so you’re good with that, racist?
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:00 pm #
An obscure federal munchkin lost her job over nothing. Over nothing, which turned out to be mistaken nothing, at that.
that’s a very good way to put it
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 9:01 pm #
Yep we shouldn’t talk about race.
And when we try to talk about Obamacare, and Sherrod calls us all racists fr doing so that means we shouldn’t talk about Obamacare because it will all just lead to a racy racist talk about race.
So, in other words, we should all just shut up, unless it is to use hoochie homophobia that is not really homophobic but more like ironic and edgy expressions of socially acceptable, if totally marginalized opposition to statism. And hatred of xtians, which is like uberl33t kewl.
Comment by Fair's Fair on 7/21 @ 9:03 pm #
“of course the Tea Party’s Andy Brietbart…”
ooh, I missed that election. So AB was elected to some position in the TEA Party? Here I am a card carrying member of the nebulous TEA Party, and I missed the election. How in hell did that happen?
“likes to target uppity black women”
I saw the Uppity Black Women in concert several times. They suck. I mean, even as bad as blues concerts can get, they sucked ass. No one would target them with anything without protection. They are disgusting hootchies.
Comment by bigbooner on 7/21 @ 9:07 pm #
Maybe this chick isn’t all that different from Robert Byrd.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 9:08 pm #
Yeah, except that her pink slip envelope also contained a Golden Ticket.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 9:08 pm #
#238 which brings us back to the world according to Rolf.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:08 pm #
the Tea Party brand is now fated to be all but synonymous with racial tension very very soon and they have no clear strategy to walk this fiasco back I don’t think.
And as far as Andy goes I don’t think the Tea Party is going to get to pretend that oh he’s not with us and disassociate themselves from Andy’s stunt.
But we’ll see what happens. I just think this is as good a moment as any to gawk at the sheer scale of dumbness of it all.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 9:08 pm #
Robert Byrd’s dad was shot to death by a white man? Damn, no wonder he was so angry.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 9:10 pm #
Anyone know what that obsure Federal muchkin’s GS rating was? I’m guessing she was GS-15 at a minimum.
Meaning she was making a hell of a lot more than any Joe sixpack.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 9:13 pm #
#241 Oh horsehit. That nonsense doesn’t even deserve an honest reply. The NAACP started this go ’round. To try to pretend otherwise is stupidly stupid.
The United States is a little bit larger than your little slice of LA LA land.
Comment by Pablo on 7/21 @ 9:15 pm #
And this is where ‘feets surrenders to the dirty socialists. Just get an Obama/Biden 2012 bumper sticker and register at DKos, ‘feets. It’s like abortions, really. You know when you really ought to get one. Don’t be ashamed, just do the right thing, before the hatey racists take over. Vote. For them.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:16 pm #
I am not surrendering I am observing.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 9:18 pm #
It’s good to listen to Paul Ryan’s speech while you read about race race race all the time. He hasn’t figured it out yet. Soon though maybe, since he’s pretty sharp after all.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:18 pm #
Afterward I want to understand how it happened.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:19 pm #
that’s a good idea I’ll go get dinner and come back for Mr. Ryan
I want to read what TSI said again.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:20 pm #
fails my Do Unto Others smell test
Comment by Honest Reply on 7/21 @ 9:20 pm #
I used to come to this site hoping I’d read that BHO had resigned from as the POTUS.
Now I check in on the hope that HF has resigned as the CTOPW.COM. (Concern Troll of Protein Wisdom).
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 9:31 pm #
Feets isn’t so much a troll as a little fuzzy gremlin.
Comment by crankyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:36 pm #
You are all a bunch of racist cumsluts what hate cupcakes.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:47 pm #
this is a very real thing about which to be concerned Mr. Reply you know why? I will tell you why. Because it eclipses MY issues. MINE. Spending. Spending. Um. Borrowing. Spending. These issues are now ensured to get less attention. Thanks to Andrew.
It hurts my heart.
I can’t breathe.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:58 pm #
maybe Breitbart can take a stab at this loser if he wants to attack black people
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 9:58 pm #
yeah you didn’t even have to click did you?
You knew.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 9:59 pm #
No Feets, this stuff neutralizes the race card, meaning that those who are concerned with spending might actually have a chance to express their beliefs without the Sherrods of the world calling them racists for disagreeing with the World According to Obamessiah.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:02 pm #
Do not believe the Sherrod spin.
To quote a sage from a celluloid foxhole ‘free your mind and your ass will follow.’
http://deanesmay.com/2010/07/21/counter-narratives/
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:03 pm #
well at this point it’s to be hoped I guess I don’t see the hope just yet though
I’m sure people will link the hope when it flounces nearby.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 10:03 pm #
“I am not surrendering I am observing.”
- You’re doing neither, you’re obsessing.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 10:04 pm #
It is truly astounding how out of touch that Paul Ryan guy is, yammering on and on about natural rights and self-government in peril. Amazing. Still, I’m sure he’ll pick up the theme sooner or later.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:05 pm #
Thomas… in bold at your link what is this?
I can’t work like this someone get me rewrite.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 10:06 pm #
“Spending. Spending. Um. Borrowing. Spending. These issues are now ensured to get less attention. Thanks to Andrew.”
I don’t think that you can be so certain of that happyfeet. Most of the national electorate is focused on that problem. Recent polls show that the public believes that mounting debt and out of control spending are as serious threats to our nation as terrorism. And all Baracky and the other dirty socialists can offer them are plans to spend more. More entitlements. More spendulus schemes. More, more, more…
But they’ve run out of other peoples money to spend. The public is hip to this. There won’t be a lot of yimmer-yammer about race. It’s a slow news summer lull prior to the election cycle getting into full swing. Mark my words, race games won’t be an issue. Especially when the journolist letters are all finally revealed. They won’t dare play that card…
I am 99.5% sure of that.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:07 pm #
ok watching
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:08 pm #
well there’s also the idea that this is a wonderful foundation to build a meme that the 2010s are all about angry white backlash
Comment by mcgruder on 7/21 @ 10:12 pm #
For my part, I’d like to see DC put up that entire Journolist thread. I wonder if they are being honest, or more specifically, if they are missing something. I’d also like to know who the hell was on it. It ought to be fairly easy to seperate the Krugman’s, Alterman’s, DeLong’s, Klein’s etc. from the law professors from the working beat reporters.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 10:15 pm #
Just call them racists says Spencer Ackerman it reads up there somewhere. Like, he’s got the theme, Spencer does, he knows what’s what. This Ryan guy, not so much.
Clearly the best thing is to spend as much energy as possible discussing race and racism. For how not? Institutional structures demand it, militate it even. What a loser this Ryan is. Poor Cheeseheads, to be represented by such a dreamer.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 10:16 pm #
- Yes Bob. They’ll start meeting serious opposition on that spending thing after November.
- But in that vein I agree with littlefeet. We need to harp, harp, harp on cuts across the board. We have, what, Clintons 8, Bushes 8 to a lessur extent, and Bumbblefucks 4, to make up for.
It’s going to take the outright disolution of entire departments, and massive scaling back of others just to make a good start.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:18 pm #
Feets, it’s addressed in the comments, I think Dean is leaving it as written to maintain the integrity of the discussion.
Whether she admitted to racism as an agent of the Federal government or some other in some other position of authority is also nothing more than a lefty red herring.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:19 pm #
he hasn’t said anything about Shirley at all yet maybe he doesn’t own a tv
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:19 pm #
got it I did not go into the comments
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 10:21 pm #
happyfeet,
That meme, a remake of the 1994 meme-”year of the angry white male”-has already been on standby for the last few months; ever since the Obamacare townhalls went south last on them last year. They know the Baracky agenda would never really wash with the bulk of the public, who were hornswaggled into voting for him anyway because of his academy award winning performance as a moderate during the campaign. They just thought Captain Charisma would be able to smooth it with the public with some of his baritone burbling. But, he’s no where as smooth as they had all convinced themselves he was.
And that’s how the meme got started of the public being too stupid, or racist, to embrace Obama’s agenda; wgter all he knows so much better than we what is good for us, right? I mean, Obama couldn’t be a failure so it must be our fault, never his. Similarly, the entire progg left agenda can’t be failing, it must be the hicktard rube racists; the angry white male rebelling against the certain Brilliance! and absolute moral authority of Obama and his minions. They had to adopt this explanation to avoid the dissonance exploding their noggins!
And so, just like Hollywood can only do remakes, so too is it with team Dirty Socialist. All they an do is recycle past favorites, like the meme used to combat the, “Contract with America”, election-that it was the year of the angry white male. The same tripe they’ve been planning to trot out when they lose badly this fall.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 10:22 pm #
I bet Mitch Daniels had something gaspy to say about Shirley today. Probably no one asked him though, so we may not get to hear it. Best he stay an afterthought says Spencer who has the theme.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 10:25 pm #
BBH,
The congressional races will center around fiscal austerity and reducing spending. That is my predicition.
And if the entire GOP get’s on board with Paul Ryan’s Roadmap, then the election turning on that issue becomes a matter of metaphysical certitude.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:29 pm #
Sherrod is blaming Fox news for being racist and causing all of her problems, even though they didn’t actually report on the issue until after she had resigned.
http://mediamatters.org/strupp/201007210037
I guess that rules out an appearance on Beck’s show.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 10:30 pm #
- And they’ll also lean on that other favorite meme, class warfare, just like they’re doing right now with the unemployment extention, covering their asses by repeating over and over that it’s the eeeevil Rethugs that don’t want to extend the bill, and refusing to honestly admit the Reps want them to use some of the stimulous funds that are just sitting there. Lies, lies, lies.
- BTW. I think Bumbblefuck is trying to hang on to the stimulous pork barral so he can do another “buy the votes” handout on the eve of the November vote.
- It’s the Democratic way!
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:35 pm #
I fear the angry white male meme more for its impact on the more royal personages of Team R.
Mr. Ryan has an ethereal optimism what escapes my grasp utterly.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 10:36 pm #
- You have to be some kind of brain fucked, almost at the level of pod-people for her to think she’s safe trusting people that not 24 hours earlier threw her under the train. I don’t think she has any notion of due process or personal rights. I homestly believe the portion of black America she’s involved with have totally sold out and only care about what they can score from the system.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:37 pm #
I read she already has a lawyer looking into everybody involved.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:38 pm #
Angry white male meme failed as soon as all those wimmens started showing up at TEA parties and taking leadership roles.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:38 pm #
you have to win by acclamation you have to win by aspiration
well said Mr. Ryan
Comment by Spence on 7/21 @ 10:39 pm #
Fox News has been inventing ‘whitey fear the blackman’ scandals ever since Obama was elected. Van Jones, Acorn, Black Panthers, now this… not that it matters, most Fox viewers are older white people who grew up during segregation, but this just pushes racism even further. For every significant civil rights breakthrough, there is a backlash. Like the KKK after the Civil War… today we have Fox/Beck/Limbaugh/Breitbart and the Tea Party.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:40 pm #
thank you for your contribution Spence I hadn’t looked at it from that perspective before
Comment by Spence on 7/21 @ 10:41 pm #
BTW … socialist/marxist/Muslim/Kenyan = “negro” in Tea Party lingo
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:42 pm #
negro!
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:43 pm #
Sure am glad ‘Spence’ showed up to clarify the whole who is a racist thing.
Sad that Meya still can’t get a life.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:44 pm #
You ‘forgot’ Reverend Wright.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 10:45 pm #
So you’ve got the theme too Spence? Excellent.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 10:45 pm #
- There you go Spence. The brilliant light of truthiness once again shines down it’s soul soothing message of “just take the chocolate and follow us out to Pleasure Island, and all will be well”.
- I think I’m going to buy a few more guns and stock up on ammo.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:46 pm #
Reverend Wright was a neo-negro negro negro with negro sympathies.
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:49 pm #
But only if they were suitably uppity. Non-uppity ones did not count in his (little red) book.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 10:51 pm #
I thought all of this “race” stuff was a distraction, at lest according to Obama.
But, perhaps more importantly, why is meya posting under yet another name?
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/21 @ 10:53 pm #
Alright y’all, I’m out.
Comment by Mike LaRoche on 7/21 @ 10:55 pm #
“Spence” = dickweed in troll lingo
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 10:55 pm #
meya doesn’t use slashes like that I think. So maybe another one does?
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 10:56 pm #
that’s not nearly as polished as meya’s stuff usually is
Comment by ThomasD on 7/21 @ 10:58 pm #
That is very observant sdferr, quite an eye for detail.
Comment by sdferr on 7/21 @ 11:01 pm #
Listening to boring ol’ Paul Ryan blather on about the difficulties of self government must drive the mind to seek diversion in meaningless detail I guess ThomasD.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 11:12 pm #
- I don’t think anyone can devine what roads the race baiting/race warring will take.
- What I do know is the Dems are in deep do-do, and they know it.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 11:14 pm #
whoa… Coast Guard faggot Hung Ngyuen has now taken to leaking documents to the New York Times to protect his British Pussy pals
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 11:19 pm #
whoa again… wtf
That decision puzzled many technical experts trying to help BP, according to one subsea engineer who was advising the U.K. oil company in its Houston crisis center. “The whole industry was dumbfounded,” the engineer said.
“The management at BP were paralyzed by fear,” said another engineer advising the company.
He stressed that all decisions on the well are made by the Unified Command, led by retired Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen, who is overseeing the federal spill response.*
more proof that the piece of shit U.S. government is exacerbating the oil spill if we needed it which we didn’t need it but there it is
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 11:21 pm #
can’t someone just humor me where is Mr. smiley
Comment by geoffb on 7/21 @ 11:22 pm #
happyfeet,
While in SC we went out to eat at a BBQ place where they had a bluegrass band playing. When I left at the counter was a CD for a different bluegrass band that had played there the previous week. I bought the CD. Here is a youtube from them of one song on the CD “Caroline” by River Boy.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 11:22 pm #
“spokesman, Lou Colasuonno, commenting on the 33-page report about workers’ safety concerns, noted that the Deepwater Horizon had seven consecutive years without a single lost-time incident or major environmental event.”
(Beetlegeuse voice off camara)
“….Wellpers……looks like we really fucked that record up babes….yup, yup…::snort::”
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 11:28 pm #
feets, you keep talking about the unfair treatment of the riggers. Are you so sure that transoceanic management isn’t an ass kissing circular firing squad?
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 11:33 pm #
hah what a great video I love her smile this is bookmarked
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 11:35 pm #
Mr. Hunter the consequences of a contract driller being hung out to dry are bad bad bad for capitalism and very very good for fascism I think. Transocean was indemnified for a reason.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 11:36 pm #
plus they are mostly good Texas boys stalwart and true
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 11:46 pm #
I’m sure the worker bee’s are. But I’m asking you about the management, not the workers.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/21 @ 11:48 pm #
oh. I think they live to drill and they drill to live. Good Texas management.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/21 @ 11:59 pm #
- Yes, well I’ve known a few “good managements” in my time. They were really good at keeping costs down by cutting corners on upkeep and safety, and undermanning certain jobs. Looks good to upper management. They were also expert at burrying employee complaints concerning said practices.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/22 @ 12:08 am #
we will see but the fact remains that there has been a concerted Coast Guard/media/Coast Guard-fed media campaign this week to find liability outside of BP
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/22 @ 12:14 am #
= Well BP has some ’splanin to do concerning their efforts in the Lockebee/terrorist release thing.
- In other news…..
“Oh hey, I’ve got a great idea…..Lets all run down to Revere beech and jump on a jelly fish….”
“RYE, N.H. – New Hampshire authorities say about 100 people have been stung by a large dead jellyfish that broke into pieces at a state park beach, and nine children were treated at a hospital.”
Comment by happyfeet on 7/22 @ 12:17 am #
oh. jellyfish always terrified me when I was little cause if you get stung they tell you to rub piss on the sting and I was very very adamant that This Would Never Happen.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/22 @ 12:23 am #
- Unless things have changed radically since the days when I lived there, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know it’s a crap shoot with most of the coastline, there being very few lifeguard stations in state parks and none anywhere else.
- You’re stepping into the domain of all sorts of nasty criters, and the guards really can’t always detect their presense until something happens.
Comment by JD on 7/22 @ 12:29 am #
Spence is willie the racist homophobic hilljack skin flute player. And, he is a fucking lying coward.
Fuck you, Yelverton. Swordfish style.
Comment by Willie's Cat on 7/22 @ 12:33 am #
Hey, go easy on poor Willie. I’m the closest he’s ever come to having real pussy.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/22 @ 12:37 am #
- Spence is just another Prog turd ball trying to keep his nose above the surface of the cess pool he’s treading water in, while the waves keep getting higher from the coming shit storm.
- If things keep going the way they seem to be, you’ll be lucky in a couple of years if you can find a single soul that admits he/she’s a Progressive.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/22 @ 12:50 am #
- Once the bloom is off the rose, and the word gets out among the younger set, you’ll want to stay away from any doors or risk getting trampled in the outward stampede.
- the Democrats are already edging towards the exits.
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Comment by JD on 7/22 @ 1:13 am #
I cannot find the comment, but fucking simon had a comment earlier that tried to make it acceptable that the racisms did not occur when she was a federal employee, as though that absolved her for her racisms. It struck me as a remarably stupid comment.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/22 @ 1:27 am #
- Well they always rationalize away anything that shows the glaring flaws in “teh narrative”.
- As things stand it’s very probable the only chance the Dems have is to reinvent themsleves, distancing the party from any and all things that even hint at the words “socialism or progressive”.
- They can still keep their core approach to vote buying, they’ll just have to find new and clever way’s to dress it up in different clothes, and extreme lefturd dogma of any and all stripes will be considered the kiss of death.
- The electorate is really really pissed.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 7/22 @ 1:47 am #
- Every poll they’ve tried in the last two months show that if Bumbblefuck had to run today he’d lose to all 4 of the front running Reps, people that aren’t all that popular themselves, thats how bad it is. It’s not just bad, it’s a 8 Alarm inferno, and Mobama is only two years in.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/22 @ 1:58 am #
I can’t find any more river boy except a waylon song
Comment by B Moe on 7/22 @ 2:29 am #
Oh we were scared of black men long before Obama got elected. Why do you think we voted against him?
What are your theories about who blew up the WTC? We would all love to hear that.
Comment by happyfingers on 7/22 @ 3:58 am #
Forget about peripheral vision, people !
Keep your eyes on the oils what gush uncontrollably and are not healthy for childrens and other living things !!
Tell us more, slewfoot !!!
Comment by Rusty on 7/22 @ 6:02 am #
Is Breitbart now controlling the ‘narritive’?
Comment by george smiley on 7/22 @ 6:05 am #
Narrative clearly doesn’t mean anything, after all, no one here was affected, sarc
http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/when-mccain-picked-palin-liberal-journalists-coordinated-the-best-line-of-attack/
Comment by Mikey NTH on 7/22 @ 6:41 am #
George – you mean these media people were manipulating how Sarah Palin was to be viewed? That what was said was made up?
I am shocked, shocked I say!
/sarc
Comment by Mikey NTH on 7/22 @ 7:21 am #
You know, the defeatist type people aren’t worth much of anything.
Well, they could be used as emergency sandbags, I suppose.
Pingback by UrbanGrounds | Journolist Leaked Emails Confirm What We ALL Already Knew About Liberal Media Bias on 7/22 @ 7:25 am #
[...] Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his Journolister jerk-off buddies to change the subject by smearing Conservatives. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred [...]
Comment by ThomasD on 7/22 @ 7:54 am #
I seem to recall reading something yesterday from someone saying that the Journolist scandal wouldn’t account to anything until someone put together a direct association between Journolist conversations and specific published articles that were drawn directly from the discussion. (But can’t find the link.)
Doesn’t today’s report from the Daily Caller verify just such an event – one from Joe Klein published in Time?
Comment by Slartibartfast on 7/22 @ 8:03 am #
I probably don’t need to point out to you that having integrity is not conducive to higher levels of remuneration, in general, but…here I go.
Ackerman has, I think, a bad case of Little Man Syndrome.
His Wikipedia entry says that, among other things, “Ackerman is a fan of comic books and hardcore punk music”. Comic books. Meh. But the “hardcore punk music” is, I think, mostly to establish some faux-badass cred.
Not sure how you get to be a “senior fellow” within 8 years of graduating with your bachelor’s degree. Must have something to do with that integrity thing, noted above.
Plus, he uses “awesome” in his article headlines, which is really edgey I guess.
Comment by Carin on 7/22 @ 8:40 am #
Fox News has been inventing ‘whitey fear the blackman’ scandals ever since Obama was elected. Van Jones, Acorn, Black Panthers, now this… not that it matters, most Fox viewers are older white people who grew up during segregation, but this just pushes racism even further. For every significant civil rights breakthrough, there is a backlash. Like the KKK after the Civil War… today we have Fox/Beck/Limbaugh/Breitbart and the Tea Party.
God, you don’t think spence is black do you? Perhaps I should be afraid to even dialogue with him?
Comment by Carin on 7/22 @ 8:41 am #
ckerman is a fan of comic books and hardcore punk music”. Comic books. Meh. But the “hardcore punk music” is, I think, mostly to establish some faux-badass cred.
Shiver. I wonder if he has a tramp stamp.
Comment by Carin on 7/22 @ 8:56 am #
From the morning jolt:
DAMN THAT FOX NEWS.
And bush. I’m sure he’s somehow responsible too. Breitbart is apparently too small fry to focus on.
Comment by cranky-d on 7/22 @ 9:22 am #
Hey, I like comics too. Haters!
What’s funny-sad about the whole race thing is, like Krauthammer said, the fact that Obama is black is about the only good thing involved with his election. I would be happy to have another black president, if only he or she were a conservative or a classical liberal. Progressives see everything through their prism of race, so they think everyone else does, too.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/22 @ 9:30 am #
I disagree with Krauthammer. I don’t think Obama is black, I think Obama is in the club of one – Obama. Everything he does is to make Obama feel better, make Obama richer, make other people feel inferior to Obama. Problem is, there are those who never believed he’s ever cracked triple digits on his IQ, and never believed anything they heard or read about him.
We just need the veil to fall for more and more people.
Comment by geoffb on 7/22 @ 9:53 am #
Limbaugh responds to the “Journolist”.
I expect he will have more on today’s show.
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[...] for quite some time now. If the right can work to undermine that form of invidious and cynical (see Ackerman, et al) ad hominem attack, it should: and I’ve been an advocate of making race a big part of [...]
Comment by Slartibartfast on 7/22 @ 11:33 am #
But would you like that affinity for comic books to be half of what Wikipedia says you like? Or do you think you’d rather be known for other, more grown-up, things?
But HARDCORE PUNK; there’s badass cred for someone who calls himself Attackerman.
Comment by cranky-d on 7/22 @ 11:37 am #
Comics don’t amount to close to half of what I like, so I guess not.
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