Projective hate [Darleen Click]

	Return to Protein Wisdom homepage « Obama to private sector: Drop dead [Darleen Click] \| Home \| Andrew Breitbart on All Things Considered…(The Sanity Inspector) » February 2, 2010 Projective hate [Darleen Click] Frank Rich calls John McCain unpatriotic – literally John McCain epitomizes the unpatriotic opposition. From Howard Dean’s slander that Republicans want children to starve to NOW’s assertion that the Tebow Superbowl ad is “cynical” and masquarades as “hate” we are again seeing the true face and feelings of those we are supposed to treat as “good men” or “good women”. We don’t need to get angry. Anger is what the Left pretends motivates any opposition to their dogma or agenda. Projecting anger onto the voters in MA is what allows the Left, from Pelosi to Obama, to reinvent the immediate past by claiming the election of Scott Brown has absolutely nothing to do with opposition to ObamaCare. It even took Stalin more than a few weeks to wipe Trotsky from Soviet history. The Left is statist. It is anti-Liberty. We need no anger to point that out, just a clear, concise message we need to repeat over and over, with humor as needed. Let’s start with the obvious. Democrats have had responsibility for the US budget for three years. The deficit in 2006, the last time the Republicans held the purse strings was $247 Billion. This year it will be $1.6 Trillion. Are we better or worse since Pelosi took charge of the Federal credit card? The bigger the Government, the smaller the people. Posted by Darleen @ 6:36 am Comments (336) \| Trackback 336 Comments ::: Post a comment » Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 6:41 am # The beat goes on. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 6:42 am # The reactionary left is going crazy. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 6:43 am # And Chrissy Matthews felt a gekko running up his leg. Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 7:20 am # Many Americans were more eagerly anticipating Steve Jobs’s address in San Francisco on Wednesday morning than the president’s that night because they have far more confidence in Apple than Washington to produce concrete change. That’s called a clue-bat, Frank. Pity you seem so immune to them. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 7:28 am # I love how Frankie just ignores the fact that SanFranNan and Harry have been in charge of the purse strings since 2006. That, and all his lies lies lies. They really are just the propoganda arm for the DNC. Comment by mcgruder on 2/2 @ 7:34 am # That last is a really good line, Darleen. Very deft. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 8:31 am # God save our little country from patriots like John McCain. Comment by MarkD on 2/2 @ 8:49 am # That’s rich. Comment by Curmudgeon on 2/2 @ 8:57 am # Frank Rich has out Bob Herbeted Bob Herbert. Comment by Timstigator on 2/2 @ 9:32 am # The gay print version of Keith Olbermann. Only with tenure. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 9:41 am # The funny thing about the left demonizing McCain is that he is a statist just like they are. He just isn’t quite as bad. Yet. Okay, so it isn’t really funny at all. We are so screwed. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:42 am # That men like this Rich guy are still known, let alone widely read, is not the stuff of national confidence building. America, what’s got into you that you’d acknowledge this simpleton? Why isn’t he picking a trash heap in Secaucus for a new winter coat? Why is Eric Holder still Attorney General of the United States? One needn’t hold an animus against the man to see that he doesn’t understand the concept of justice he is charged with upholding. He thinks to do some great and noble wholesale justice – social justice, he calls it — while simultaneously injuring the very notion of justice and the system, such as it is, which attempts to bring individual right-doing to life. He would proclaim before the nation, before the whole world, that he wishes to showcase the American court as a shining example of righteousness and in the next sentence from his mouth, thinks to assure everyone that a monster like Khalid Sheik Mohammad will without question be convicted and executed? No presumption of innocence here, no sir. I ask you, could Holder do worse if he had intentionally set out to embarrass the United States? Where is your amour-propre America, why do you stand still for this charade? What have you done that you would flay yourself this way? Comment by Bender Bending Rodriguez on 2/2 @ 9:53 am # Seriously, the NYT could maybe do a little to increase Americans’ confidence in their reportage if they’d stop publishing silly op-eds that, as “evidence” for their nonsensical moonbat claims, link to Think Progress, Chait, and Talking Points Memo…and the Times itself, of course. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 10:13 am # BBR, lefties love appeals to authority (as I’m sure you already know). They really cannot live long without pointing to one of their “smarter than smart” lefty peers to justify yet another idiotic position. I would like to see a rules change in the Senate. I think you should need a 2/3 majority to pass any legislation, and 3/4 to override a veto. That should slow things down a bit. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 10:17 am # Now that was just brilliant, troll. Brilliant. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 10:21 am # Courts are a legitimate function of government. The Dept. of Education, not so much. Sounds like Friendly Suggestion Troll has prions eating away at it’s brain. Comment by Pablo on 2/2 @ 10:21 am # Now that was just brilliant, troll. Brilliant. Kevin Jennings, I’m guessing. Back on topic… HANDS down, the State of the Union’s big moment was Barack Obama’s direct hit on the delicate sensibilities of the Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito. The president was right to blast the 5-to-4 decision giving corporate interests an even greater stranglehold over a government they already regard as a partially owned onshore subsidiary. How satisfying it was to watch him provoke Alito into a “You lie!” snit. Here was a fight we could believe in. Frank really is an idiot, isn’t he? Comment by geoffb on 2/2 @ 10:34 am # Re: McCain, When one of your most visible, bought and paid for, “public servants” starts going off your reservation you must make a public example of them to keep all the others in line. A basic Mob rule. Comment by JTF on 2/2 @ 10:35 am # The results are in. Most Republicans are mentally ill. 63% of Republicans believe Obama is a socialist 58% of Republicans think Obama was not born in the US or are not sure 57% of Republicans think Obama want terrrorists to win or are not sure 53% of Republicans think Palin is more qualified to be president than Obama 64% of Republicans think Obama is a racist that hates white people or are not sure 59% of Republicans oppose illegal aliens living here even if they learn English and pay a fine Around 70% of Republicans oppose gays serving their country, teaching children, getting married, or even having civil unions. 51% of Republicans are against sex education 77% of Republicans think Creationism should be taught in public schools 76% of Republicans think abortion is murder 31% of Republicans think contraceptives should be OUTLAWED 34% of Republicans think birth control pills are abortion 67% of Republicans believe there is no other way to heaven than Jesus Christ There you have it… you want these lunatics running the country????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 10:35 am # I would bet at the end of the day that Frank Rich has a greater respect for the first amendment than does John McCain. Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 10:38 am # How satisfying it was to watch him provoke Alito into a “You lie!” snit. Accuracy clearly isn’t Frank Rich’s strong suit. One year into Obama’s term we still don’t know whether he has what it takes to get American governance functioning again. Nor is knowledge of the responsibilities of the various branches of government. Or of economics. What is Frank Rich good at, I wonder? Comment by JTF on 2/2 @ 10:43 am # Would you conservatives care to oppose the new bill submitted by Sen, Franken to keep foreign interests out of US elections? “Since 1974, federal law has banned foreign companies from giving or spending in American elections. Nothing in our current laws, however, explicitly prohibits foreign companies from creating American subsidiaries or getting control of American companies and using them to flood the airwaves in support of their preferred candidates. Citizens United gives companies unlimited power to do that – and does not distinguish between American companies and companies that are owned or controlled by foreign interests.” - Sen. Al Franken, who just announced bill to keep foreign interests out of US elections Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 10:43 am # I remember from the Reagan years a syndicated columnist whose output used to include depicting the anarcho-progressive assassins and bomb-throwers of 100 years ago in much the same way, on their issue of choice, that Eric Rudolph would almost certainly like to be depicted. For some reason I was remembering this guy as that columnist. I could be wrong. Was Frank Rich writing a column 25 years ago? Comment by Makewi on 2/2 @ 10:44 am # What is Frank Rich good at, I wonder? Frank Rich is excellent at his job. Which is to act the part of a Republican who is willing to shine a light on the problems within his party for an audience of New York City progressives. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 10:45 am # While responding to idiots like JTF is an exercise in futility, one wonders what the breakdown is between the “think this” and “not sure” is for some of those questions. As far as the rest of it goes, I tend to agree that Obama is obviously a socialist, Obama has said racial things against white people which indicates that he might be racist, abortion is murder, and teaching Creationism as part of a curriculum that teaches other creation myths from other cultures is not a problem. As a science exercise I would be teaching the theory of evolution and natural selection, though. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 10:45 am # Nothing in our current laws, however, explicitly prohibits dirty socialist Chicago street trash piece of shit wankers from getting control of American government and that’s probably a more pressing problem I think. Comment by dicentra on 2/2 @ 10:45 am # That last is a really good line, Darleen. Very deft. As she will readily admit, the line comes from Dennis Prager. Yesterday, he broadcast his speech to the GOP in Baltimore, and it was a great speech. He told them, “look, you’re not fighting liberals; you’re not fighting Democrats; you’re fighting the Left, and Leftism is a religion. They are true believers.” However. we are again seeing the true face and feelings of those we are supposed to treat as “good men” or “good women.” Dennis also produced his usual caveat that Leftists aren’t trying to harm the country. “Nobody wakes up in the morning and says, ‘I think I’m going to cause harm today.’ Most of the people in prison don’t even do that.” With respect and frustration, Dennis, that’s a stupid thing to say. Of course they don’t wake up in the morning and decide to do harm. What do they say? They say, “I want what I want and I’m going to get it,” and any collateral harm they may do is of no concern to them. The starry-eyed activist may believe that a bigger government is best, because look at Europe, but the people who have their hands on the actual levers of power don’t think in terms of what’s best for the country or for other people; they think in terms of what’s best for them. And what they want is power. What they want is to indulge their narcissism. What they want is to feed their lust to control other human beings. They get off on it. It’s heady stuff. And the only way they can get their jollies is to centralize power as much as possible. Their jollies. If the rest of us get hurt, that’s just too bad; sacrifices have to be made. Listen, Dennis: There are evil people in our government. Evil. I’m not asking you or anyone else to name names, but I AM asking you to acknowledge that Leftism isn’t “just another way to look at the world.” It’s a way for a few people to gain power over others, thus to glut their insatiable appetites. Don’t give them the benefit of the doubt; they don’t deserve it. Don’t sacrifice truth for the sake of tact. Comment by Pablo on 2/2 @ 10:48 am # 63% of Republicans believe Obama is a socialist 63% of Republicans are correct. Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 10:48 am # you want these lunatics running the country DailyKOS? No way. Comment by Makewi on 2/2 @ 10:48 am # Speaking of being excellent at a job, take JTF. His job, presumably voluntary, is to take the message of the overlords to the masses in the hopes that they, like him, will not try to examine an issue from all sides. Comment by dicentra on 2/2 @ 10:48 am # Ah. Here’s the transcript of Prager’s speech: http://www.dennisprager.com/columns.aspx?g=075ccb46-4bd8-41ce-bcf5-8e2c1fb9b578&url=what_i_said_to_the_republican_members_of_congress Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 10:49 am # I would like to have kept foreign interests out of our last presidential election, but team Obama allowed contributions to his campaign from all over the world. As for Franken, the doo-doo head from my state, I don’t care what he does as long as he goes away as soon as possible. BTW, assuming that everyone here is conservative just shows you’re a drive-by troll. If you actually read the comments for a while you would see that there is a wide range of philosophies present, except none of us tend to be statist assholes. If not being a statist (like Obama for instance) makes me a conservative, then I guess I am one. A true conservative wouldn’t think so, though. Comment by dicentra on 2/2 @ 10:50 am # And it looks like the part about “not waking up in the morning and deciding to do harm” came from his talking about his speech on his radio show, not from the speech itself. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 10:50 am # So has the left decided to openly admit it no longer adheres to this simple statement of American political purpose? Will the left stand to proclaim that only those with opinions it and it alone approves may participate in governance of this nation? Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 10:52 am # Citizens United gives companies unlimited power to do that Senator Franken’s comprehender is busted, it appears. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 10:54 am # The battlefield has changed, sdferr, as has the execution of said battle, but the fight now might be more important than ever. They fought to keep the body of the nation intact, now we are fighting for the soul. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 10:55 am # Too dramatic? Maybe. And maybe not. Comment by Makewi on 2/2 @ 10:56 am # Senator Franken just understands that this ruling removes the monopoly the Democrats had on foreign influenced political spending and he would like it back. If there is one thing a man like Al Franken hates it is equal opportunity to deliver a message. Comment by JTF on 2/2 @ 10:58 am # 42 percent of Republicans aren’t really patriotic. 42% want their state to secede or are not sure. They pretend to love America only when they approve of the president. These traitors don’t believe in democracy, in our nation’s founding ideals, or in our flag. They are cowards. These poll results explain why it is impossible for elected Republicans to work with Democrats to improve our country. Their base are conspiracy mongers who don’t believe Obama was born in the United States, that he is the second coming of Lenin, and that he is racist against white people. They already want to impeach him despite the glaringly obvious lack of high crimes or misdemeanors. If any Republican strays and decides to do the right thing and try to work in a bipartisan fashion, they suffer in primaries and attacks. Lunatics. Fortunately, almost entirely white and over 55… a dying breed. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 11:01 am # “Comment by JTF on 2/2 @ 10:43 am # Would you conservatives care to oppose the new bill submitted by Sen, Franken to keep foreign interests out of US elections?” Thay aren’t allowed to contribute NOW, fucktard. Aaaand…..would that include turning on the controls on web sites as to actually, you know, cotributes to your Presidential campaign coffers? ‘Cause that’d put Obama in a world of hurt. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 11:04 am # “Comment by JTF on 2/2 @ 10:58 am # 42 percent of Republicans aren’t really patriotic.” So, what was your MOS, fucktard? Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 11:05 am # “Lunatics. Fortunately, almost entirely white and over 55… a dying breed.” Massachusetts, fucktard. Learn it, live it, love it. Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 11:06 am # Remember the century of bliss, when foreign countries weren’t contributing cash to finance campaigns? Me, neither. Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 11:08 am # 42 percent of Republicans aren’t really patriotic. Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:09 am # Is that Willie the racist skin-flute player, or that jackoff from Highland, CA? Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 11:09 am # Or when the Amendment read: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:11 am # I love the lefties all up in arms about foreign dollars, the jingoistic xenophobic racist bastards. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:11 am # I thought JTF was a new one, but I agree with JD that he’s another retread of trolls past. TrollHammered™. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:12 am # Fuck the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is what JTF says. Fuck it. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:13 am # So JTF and the president have that in common at least. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:15 am # This troll sounds remarkably just like the one from comment #112 last night, Kill the Fillibuster. Same use of imaginary polls that magically say that everyone that does not agree with it are racist Nazi killbots would should be eliminated. Fuck you, you cowardly troll. Swordfish style. Comment by JTF on 2/2 @ 11:16 am # FYI…the U.S. national debt tripled under Ronald Reagan only to double again George W. Bush. In between, President Clinton erased the GOP budget deficits, producing a $236 billion surplus by his last year in office and leaving Bush a 10 year forecasted surplus of $5.6 trillion. President Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion annual deficit when he was sworn in January 2009. OK wingnuts, either deny historical fact, rationalize, or remain in denial…. now, show us how conservatives handle facts. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:16 am # cranky-d – Amen, brother. The overt disdain these people have for the foundational documents of our country is remarkable. Comment by kristan on 2/2 @ 11:18 am # you know, if X would just stop holding opinions I define to be evil, life would be so much less interesting. and it would be a little harder to blame X for being so evil that I can’t even bring myself to talk with X, thus breaking down discourse and informed discussion in our little republic. what’s life without a scapegoat, anyway? Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:19 am # Now it is just making up imaginary numbers, based on flawed premises, irrational exuberence, and assuming that the dot com bubble would go on for eternity. It also ignores the actual timeline of when the parties were in control of Congress. But JTF says fuck the facts too. Those were lies and you are a fucking liar what lies. Comment by Kresh on 2/2 @ 11:19 am # Comprehensive Daily Kos Anything is probably going to be slightly biased, if not merely off kilter and lacking anything involving actual thought or non-biased analysis. There is this though: 67% of Republicans believe there is no other way to heaven than Jesus Christ What was the other option for the poll? A bus? Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 11:19 am # show us how conservatives handle facts Royal “we”, or MPD? Also, meaningless conflation of deficit and debt, and demonstrated ignorance of how the deficit under Clinton went away for a short time; those things aren’t conducive to me taking you seriously. I’d lay good odds most others here would agree. Comment by LBascom on 2/2 @ 11:20 am # 63% of Republicans believe Obama is a socialist most democrats do to, and approve 58% of Republicans think Obama was not born in the US or are not sure Obama could easily release the proof and remove doubt, yet he doesn’t 57% of Republicans think Obama want terrrorists to win or are not sure Obama declared the terrorists had won in Iraq a couple of years ago, demanded USA retreat 53% of Republicans think Palin is more qualified to be president than Obama she does have more executive experience… 64% of Republicans think Obama is a racist that hates white people or are not sure paging Rev. Wright…Rev. Wright to the white phone please… 59% of Republicans oppose illegal aliens living here Dems have a hard time wrapping their heads around “illegal” even if they learn English and pay a fine Around 70% of Republicans oppose gays serving their country 55%, teaching children if “openly gay”, that is, make an issue out of it, getting married changing the definition of marriage, or even having ~~civil unions~~ special government benefits. 51% of Republicans are against sex education which, as we all know, has been wildly successful 77% of Republicans think ~~Creationism~~ banning books should be ~~taught~~ outlawed in public schools actual question: “Should public school students be taught that the book of Genesis in the Bible explains how God created the world?” 76% of Republicans think abortion is murder got a percentage of non-Republicans that agree? 31% of Republicans think contraceptives should be OUTLAWED freedom of religion, what percentage of Dems want the Catholic church outlawed? 34% of Republicans think birth control pills are abortion see above 67% of Republicans believe there is no other way to heaven than Jesus Christ what percentage of non-Republicans agree? Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:20 am # Who is X and who is the scapegoat, kristan? Comment by kristan on 2/2 @ 11:20 am # also: when I can define my opposition’s beliefs as evil, that makes it a lot easier to properly police and/or shame them. I like that. Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 11:20 am # Don’t get mad at JTF; JTF is inadvertent humor to be savored. Comment by kristan on 2/2 @ 11:21 am # jd: in principle, I’m being structural. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 11:22 am # …[O]ne people…to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them… We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 11:23 am # “Comment by JTF on 2/2 @ 11:16 am # FYI…the U.S. national debt tripled under Ronald Reagan” Thanks to a Democrat congress. “only to double again George W. Bush.” And to fucking QUADRUPLE under Teh Won™. So that means you’ve mever been on this forum before, otherwise you would have seen all the complaining about President Bush’s deficit spending. George Bush spent like a drunken sailor. Obama spends like a coked up Armada. So go take your meds and have a nice long nap, ‘mkay? Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:23 am # sdferr – Don’t go confusing them with actual principles. kristan – Who would you say is employing that structure? Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 11:24 am # I wonder if kristan is mistakenly drawing a comparison between McCain-Feingold and TrollHammer? Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:24 am # A lot of the reported deficit from Bush’s last year is from that TARP bailout money, most of which has already been paid back ($500 billion) and then spent again ($300 billion of it so far) by Obama. One should be careful which lies one propagates. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:26 am # I read kristan as being on the side of open discourse without demonization, but I will concede that I could be wrong. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:27 am # Or admit. Whatevs. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 11:27 am # I’m kind of an open discourse with demonization guy I think. Comment by newrouter on 2/2 @ 11:28 am # “only to double again George W. Bush.” color charts even a brain dead troll can understand Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 11:28 am # Once upon a time… …the U.S. national debt tripled under Ronald Reagan only to double again George W. Bush. In between, President Clinton erased the GOP budget deficits, producing a $236 billion surplus by his last year in office and leaving Bush a 10 year forecasted surplus of $5.6 trillion. President Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion annual deficit when he was sworn in January 2009. … and they all lived happily ever after. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 11:28 am # If Barack isn’t a demon name please to be telling me a more demony one? Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 11:28 am # I’ve met and talked (argued) with Colman McCarthy McGehee and have a lingering doubt he would have supported bomb-throwers or assassins of any stripe. His politics are nuts, in my opinion, but while lefty nutty, he is a consistently radical pacifist, utterly opposed to violence of any sort. Comment by LBascom on 2/2 @ 11:28 am # OK wingnuts, either deny historical fact, rationalize, or remain in denial…. now, show us how conservatives handle facts. Sure. As already pointed out, look who had control of Congress during those big deficit years. The deficit disappeared during Newts Congress, and was on a downward trend before the dems took control again in 2006. K, your turn, how you going to handle those facts progg boy? Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 11:31 am # Oh, no fair pointing out that it’s the Legislative Branch that passes (and amends, and amends the amendments, and adds on to, etc) the budget bill. Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 11:31 am # I read kristan as being on the side of open discourse without demonization I’d hope so, but we’ve all seen more than our share of sneaky concern trolls. Perhaps a tad less crypticalness on her part would help. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:31 am # Which leftist website came up with those statistics that JTF is puking out? FUN WITH STATISTICS 92% of Cubs fans are stupid. 8% are really stupid. 100% are Dems. 94% of the people that voted for Barcky are Cubs fans. 100% of cowardly trolls named JTF are liars. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:32 am # I didn’t say I wasn’t in favor of demonization, hf. Obama is a dirty socialist who is doing his best to destroy our little country. I gave him time to convince me I was wrong and have concluded I was right all along. After a year of dirty socialism, he doubled down rather than tack right. He cannot leave office soon enough to spend more time with his family. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:33 am # McG – That is precisely why I asked her to clarify. Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 11:33 am # color charts even a brain dead troll can understand On Page 5 of that PDF, is that a — a hockey stick!!!??? Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 11:35 am # Obama is a dirty socialist who is doing his best to destroy our little country but that’s not to say he can’t take it up a notch. This feels like doom. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:35 am # The only hockey sticks that count are those that indicate that the climate is going to hell. The budget? Not so much. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:35 am # ZOMG – HOCKEY STICKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Notice how JTF fled like the lying coward that it is? Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:37 am # Oh, Obama is going to try harder to destroy us, that’s a given. He cannot do otherwise, because he knows what’s best for his subjects. Comment by Timstigator on 2/2 @ 11:39 am # Proggs prove that Proggs can’t govern. Or, intentionally mis-govern for certain end-results. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 11:40 am # Is it us cranky-d, hf, or is it the foundation of our governing principles he’s out to change, if not destroy? Seems to me he wants the US to adopt new and different principles of political philosophy, worse principles in my opinion, not better, but principles, as opposed to human beings, to be eliminated. Comment by SDN on 2/2 @ 11:41 am # Was waiting for someone to bring up the inconvenient fact that Congress spends the money….. JTF = Just Troll Farts Comment by Bender Bending Rodriguez on 2/2 @ 11:41 am # President Clinton erased the GOP budget deficits, producing a $236 billion surplus by his last year in office No wonder Obama hates the Clintons. I’ll believe in the “surplus” when you show me a chart where the national debt went backwards. Of course, it never has, because the “surplus” was only imaginary, based on fanciful projections of future revenues that died when the Tech Bubble burst in Clinton’s last year. Not your fault — you’ve become stupid from reading too much Frank Rich. Comment by Timstigator on 2/2 @ 11:42 am # A multi-trillion dollar, 20-lb. budget ALWAYS corrects huge deficits and creates millions of jobs, so says 100% of Proggs. Proggs say “fight fire with fire!” Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:42 am # I agree with your assessment, sdferr. Only problem is that his minions seem intent on taking out the people that do not espouse these new principles. Comment by geoffb on 2/2 @ 11:42 am # It’s a Kos poll by Kos for his book “American Taliban”. Comment by dicentra on 2/2 @ 11:43 am # 67% of Republicans believe there is no other way to heaven than Jesus Christ The most worrisome aspect of this is, of course, that they’re also able to enforce it. We say you’re not going to heaven, you’re not. On account of God delegating His authority for that kind of thing. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:43 am # I meant “us” as the country and its founding principles, sdferr. The people actually matter little to proggs, and are really more of a nuisance than anything else. That’s why their ultimately fascist governments tend to kill so many in the name of progress. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:43 am # You have got to be fucking kidding me. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:46 am # Are you saying, dicentra, that you didn’t get that list sent out by G-d for us to decide who He is going to admit to the Kingdom of Heaven? I got it the other day, and have been happily denying entrance to everyone I dislike. Of course, since they’re doing the same to me, no one gets in (except the Mormons, of course, as South Park has already noted). Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 11:47 am # 67% of Republicans believe there is no other way to heaven than Jesus Christ This is just another way of saying “Christian”. Although some flavors of Christianity mix in a little deeds-based approach, f’rinstance: Catholic penance. But I think Catholics would also agree that without Jesus, heaven is a bit out of reach. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:48 am # There’s nothing that makes Utopia harder to achieve than stupid people with their stupid self-interests. Best to be rid of them. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 11:48 am # We can demonstrate that Obama has advocated principles different from the “negative rights”, in his estimation, of the founding cranky-d. He has spoken openly of this, proudly, even. But we will not find him saying that “people actually matter little” to him, let alone that his is a fascist way of thinking or that his ways will lead to killing for progress. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 11:48 am # I would not piss on Kos’ mouth if he was thirsty and on fire. Comment by Bender Bending Rodriguez on 2/2 @ 11:50 am # A Kos poll? Well, if JTF can’t trust someone who openly advocates lying to advance his political cause, then who can JTF trust? Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 11:51 am # Most people use statistics the way a drunk uses a lamp-post. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 11:51 am # He is Barack the Defiler, sdferr. He is as unprincipled as he is merciless I think. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 11:54 am # I think his ways lead ineluctably to great suffering and death and blighted possibilities. He wants to take our little country out of the equation, make of it something less cherished and less noble, and he’s succeeding wildly. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:56 am # You are correct, sdferr, he has not said those things. However, I think one could argue that they are an ultimate consequence of his policies. Since he can be president at most for 8 years total, none of the “really bad stuff” will likely happen on his watch, but given free reign it would eventually become quite enervating and grim. For instance, the deaths would not come via firing squad but with rationing of health care delivery. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 11:56 am # I think that Messrs Ceaser and Mansfield have a firm grasp of Obama’s political antecedents hf. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 11:57 am # I retract my 106 and add my support to 105. I’m tired of being “reasoned.” Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 11:58 am # I will read, sdferr… I will read and think. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 11:59 am # I don’t disagree that one can derive such conclusions cranky-d, not at all. They seem obvious to the likes of you and I. However, it seems to me that they go one step further than we need to establish sufficient grounds for opposition to the man and his policy, and as such will impose on us difficulties in that opposition we’ve no need of. Comment by kristan on 2/2 @ 12:00 pm # hey folks, sorry about the delay. just had a nice little conversation. anyhoo, I was commenting more on the irony of progressives defining people they disagree with as evil and then blaming those folks for a breakdown in discourse and civility. I guess I was too oblique. I’ll go back to my periodic lurking. carry on. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 12:01 pm # “One death is a tragedy, a million deaths a statistic.” -Joseph Stalin Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 12:01 pm # Don’t be a stranger, kristan. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 12:04 pm # Thank you, kristan. Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 12:04 pm # This is just another way of saying “Christian”. Don’t know if it even means that much, slart. I am not a Christian or a Republican but I would agree the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. Just like I would agree the only way to Oz is the Yellow Brick Road. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 12:05 pm # bye Kristan thank you for coming Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 12:06 pm # that’s not supposed to be as cute as I think it is, is it, b moe? Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 12:11 pm # My opposition to Obama is based on what he does right now. Every time he attempts to take a choice away from me and award it to the government, I object to it. I am not trying to fashion rhetoric to argue with the progressives, as that is a waste of time. If one is trying to win independents to a classical liberal way of thinking, one need only note how the left is hell-bent on taking away even more choices from the public, and in exchange is providing the comfort of goverment-run no-choice as well as mounting debt. However, around here I’m more interested in talking about a revolution of thought, and the ultimate consequences of the left’s policies, because some of us need to remain energized so we can pass a more measured energy on to others. If we are all dispassionate, I think it more likely that we will fail to keep this country even having a semblance of what it was. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 12:12 pm # I was about to note that JTF is the leader for the poofter of the day award, but then I realized that Markos Screw Em wrote that fiction and JTF was just following orders and being a good little footsoldier. Markos for poofter of the day. Any bet on whether or not this drivel shows up on MSNBC? Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 12:14 pm # That is just the story I was told, hf. Comment by JTF on 2/2 @ 12:15 pm # Two-thirds of Republicans assume anyone that is not a Christian is going to hell. It certainly makes it easier for them to dehumanize their enemies, either real or perceived. 77% (82% in the south!!) of Republicans think creationism – ie… the Book of Genesis should be taught in schools as fact. Just to let you know what we’re dealing with here. Is it a mental illness, stupidity, dogmatism, ignorance, or just a lack of education? Comment by Curmudgeon on 2/2 @ 12:17 pm # The concept of nominal debt (in nominal not cost of living adjusted dollars) vs. actual debt (as % of the economy) is lost on dupes like JTF. of course, the fact that the Obamunists have in one short year sent both figures to record levels is one of those unplesant facts dupes like JTF would ignore. Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 12:17 pm # Kristan, I apologize for being suspicious. Hope to see more from you around here. And I’m getting a lot of misloads when I post comments in this thread today. I’d blame Firefox 3.6 but I think it was happening before the upgrade, and each time it happens there are multiple other new comments that may just be making PW’s server tell my browser, “Can’t you just gimme a freakin’ *minute,* here? Wait yer turn, dammit!” Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:18 pm # These poll results explain why it is impossible for elected Republicans to work with Democrats to improve our country. Let me run that through the Rosetta Stone soft wear for Progg-Speak. whirrrr … click Ah, translation: This poll is a convenient excuse to demonize Republicans and those who support them for not dropping trou and bending over to mindlessly accept the socialistic Democrat “fix” that will cost a bazillion dollars, not really fix anything and fundamentally change the way government intrudes into citizen’s lives. I am available for further translations as needed. Buck up, JTP! There is at least one major part of “the economy” that will have employment opportunities out the ass!! Comment by LBascom on 2/2 @ 12:18 pm # I don’t think you get the point BMoe, the angle isn’t to bother atheists, it’s to bother people of non-Christian religions. To demonize Republicans in the eyes of Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. They don’t need to make Christians look silly to atheists, atheists already think that. Comment by kristan on 2/2 @ 12:18 pm # ah, I can’t resist. personally, I find those catholic hospitals to be a hotbed of hatred and dehumanization. the obvious consequence of people that believe in heaven and hell. Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 12:19 pm # 99.8% of trolls calling themselves JTF are talking mainly to themselves because of teh TrollHammer. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 12:19 pm # I don’t believe that poll I don’t think. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 12:21 pm # 100% of people that call themselves JTF bugger goats. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:21 pm # 100% of radical jihadists think JTP is an unbeliever and should die, horribly. You too, BMoe!;-) Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:22 pm # 100% of people who run delis think JTP needs to munch on a nice Reuben. Comment by kristan on 2/2 @ 12:24 pm # mcgehee: no worries. thanks for the well wishes folks. I’ll try to stop by more often and say hello. life’s fullness is more constraining than my admiration for this place. best. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 12:24 pm # JTF is getting tiresome. He’s boring. Can we trade him in on someone else? Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 12:26 pm # I don’t think you get the point BMoe, the angle isn’t to bother atheists, it’s to bother people of non-Christian religions. To demonize Republicans in the eyes of Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. They don’t need to make Christians look silly to atheists, atheists already think that. I don’t think Christians look silly, and I did not mean to imply that. I think it is a great book, full of wisdom and sage advice. Other than Leviticus, I got no truck with most of it. I just can’t take it literally- I don’t believe there is such a place as Heaven, but if you ask me how to get there, I am going to give the answer given in the guide book. I was trying to show JTF that he is repeating nonsense, nothing more. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 12:29 pm # Repeating nonsense is the only thing things like JTF can do. Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 12:29 pm # Two-thirds of Republicans assume anyone that is not a Christian is going to hell. It certainly makes it easier for them to dehumanize their enemies, either real or perceived. 77% (82% in the south!!) of Republicans think creationism – ie… the Book of Genesis should be taught in schools as fact. Just to let you know what we’re dealing with here. Dude I live right in the middle of the South, surrounded by Christians on all sides, and what you are dealing is a bunch of bullshit. Trust me, your stats are wrong. Way wrong. Comment by LBascom on 2/2 @ 12:30 pm # 77% (82% in the south!!) of Republicans think creationism – ie… the Book of Genesis should be taught in schools as fact Again, the actual question was: “Should public school students be taught that the book of Genesis in the Bible explains how God created the world?” That is, not that it be taught as fact, just that this is what is in the best selling book in history. But, I could be wrong, and banning books should be a common practice in schools. Personally, when I was in school, we got to learn about Greek mythology instead. It was much more important than learning what a majority of Americans believe, I’m sure… Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:32 pm # Here’s some polling for ya, JTF: In January, the number of Americans identifying themselves as Democrats fell another tenth-of-a-percentage point. Now the number of Democrats is at the lowest level recorded in more than seven years of monthly tracking by Rasmussen Reports. However, in January, the number of Republicans in the country dropped by nearly two percentage points. Why would this be, you ask, and what are the consequences? The number of adults not affiliated with either major party is now up to 32.3%. That’s the highest number of unaffiliateds since the summer of 2007. What is it, JTF? Is it “…a mental illness, stupidity, dogmatism, ignorance, or just a lack of education?” JTF just hates him the American voter, he does. WHY WON’T THEY MARCH LOCK STEP TO THE PURELY TRUE HEARTED SONG OF THEIR BETTERS? Tears taste salty and bitter. Comment by Shorter JTF on 2/2 @ 12:34 pm # STFU and die you stupid redneck godbothering assholes. Pingback by Cranky-D » More on Our President on 2/2 @ 12:35 pm # [...] Likes are from here [...] Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:36 pm # Hey! Get away from my translation machine! Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 12:38 pm # “Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:22 pm # 100% of people who run delis think JTP needs to munch on a nice Reuben.” What does Reuben have to say about that? Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 12:38 pm # Personally, when I was in school, we got to learn about Greek mythology instead. It just occurred to me that the only religions the left finds acceptable to teach are the archaic. The obsolete. The failed. They really do worship failure. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:39 pm # If a tree fell in the forest and killed JTF … would Republicans be to blame? YES, STUPID WINGERS, EVERY TIME! OH AND BOOOOOOOOOOSH! Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 12:40 pm # where is Mr. Jeff anyone know? Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 12:40 pm # My misspelling of “links” is now immortalized. whee. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 12:40 pm # OOOOO OOOOOO, this is fun: “Lancet formally retracts Wakefield MMR research” “The Lancet said following the judgment of the General Medical Council (GMC) fitness to practise panel last Thursday it had become clear that several elements of the 1998 paper by Dr Andrew Wakefield and others were incorrect. The panel made a number of criticisms of Dr Wakefield, including that he was misleading and irresponsible in the way he described the study.” So panic spreading “scientists” are once again proved to be wrong. “The research sparked a massive drop in the number of children given the triple jab for measles, mumps and rubella.” Way to kill kids, you bastard. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7138994/Lancet-formally-retracts-Wakefield-MMR-research.html [via Lucianne.com] Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:41 pm # 100% of people who run delis think JTP needs to munch on a nice Reuben.” What does Reuben have to say about that? Reuban’s too stupid and uneducated to know better, LL. Also, most likely, he’s a JOOOOOOOO and thus pre programmed to suffer and oppress. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:42 pm # Reuben … speaking of stupid and uneducated …. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 12:44 pm # Have you heard the good news, BMoe? Pingback by The Divine Conspiracy Blog » Blog Archive » The True Face on 2/2 @ 12:44 pm # [...] Click at Protein Wisdom has it exactly right. From Howard Dean’s slander that Republicans want children to starve to [...] Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:44 pm # Were there hacked E-Mails involved in the retraction, LL? Cuz that’s a crime, ya know… Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 12:44 pm # That was my proselytizing for the day. And now, back to the regular sniping. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 12:45 pm # “Were there hacked E-Mails involved in the retraction, LL? Cuz that’s a crime, ya know…” Different set of lying, “Show me the money” scientists. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 12:46 pm # vaccines are on our side I think… on the other side include viruses and bacterias and static cling. I know which side I’m on. Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 12:47 pm # “… on the other side include viruses and bacterias and static cling.” happyfeets wins the thread. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:48 pm # Is there a vaccine for static cling and why haven’t I received it? Could explain why I can’t spell “Reuben” and cranky-d can’t spell “link.” Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 12:48 pm # If it’s a lie in service of a greater good, it doesn’t count. Of course, “greater good” translates to “what I want to happen, you truck-driving, cousin-humping, G-d and gun-clinging morons.” Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 12:50 pm # What do Democrats, people like Barack Obama, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi for instance, say they believe about belief in Christ and eventually possible passage to Heaven? There are still many Democrats professing Christianity, aren’t there? Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:50 pm # !00% of PW commentators think that JTF is suffering from SCDS (Static Cling Dishonesty Syndrome.) It’s a terrible condition where, no matter where you go or what you read, bullshit clings to you like Gorilla Glue. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 12:51 pm # Static cling is the biggest problem of our time. We need a blue-ribbon panel to study this problem, stat! Comment by Makewi on 2/2 @ 12:51 pm # For my money the ones who are sure that your failure to follow their path is a prescription for hell are not nearly as worrisome as those who will try to help you along on that journey. Comment by Reuben Stoddard on 2/2 @ 12:52 pm # There is plenty of me for JTF to munch on. Comment by dicentra on 2/2 @ 12:53 pm # Two-thirds of Republicans assume anyone that is not a Christian is going to hell. It certainly makes it easier for them to dehumanize their enemies, either real or perceived. Either that or we can take compassion on their souls and preach the Gospel to them. Of course, if someone is going to hell anyway, God says it’s OK to go ahead and off them, because they’re just getting in the way of immanentizing the eschaton, the way God wants. Wait…. Comment by dicentra on 2/2 @ 12:55 pm # where is Mr. Jeff anyone know? supposed to be his birfday one of these first February days. Maybe he drank hisself into a stupor or summat. Comment by 1000 Island Dressing on 2/2 @ 12:55 pm # What is the matter with Reubens? Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 12:56 pm # It’s Tuesday and a good day for Tortilla Soup. You’re welcome. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 12:58 pm # sdferr #159: … and John Edwards and Elizabeth Edwards and John Kerry and Patrick Kennedy and … Why wouldn’t one believe, if one has chosen to accept the tenet’s of one’s religion, that that religious belief is the path to heaven? One would surely be a limp wristed believer if one professed faith but bought into the “heaven is a house with many rooms” concept. On USA one of their “characters” states “I believe all paths lead to God.” My first thought was I could eschew Christianity and take up pedophilia and cannibalism. Two! Two paths I’d have to God! I mean, after all, it doesn’t matter what you believe as long as you believe in something. Right? Maybe I’ll add bloodsucking and triple my return! But believing in Jesus as a Redeemer brands you as a hicktard elementary school dropout weed chompin’ godbotherin’ moron. What a world! Comment by LBascom on 2/2 @ 12:59 pm # on the other side include viruses and bacterias and static cling. Don’t stereotype hf! Don’t you know there are “friendly” bacteria? What do Friendly Bacteria Do For Us? Friendly bacteria do much more than counter the unfriendly bacteria. They also provide us with other, powerful benefits. Friendly bacteria: * manufacture vitamins B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, B12, A, and K, and essential fatty acids; aid in the digestive process by helping digest lactose (milk sugar) and protein; clean the intestinal tract, purify the colon, and promote regular bowel movements; produce antibiotics and antifungals that prevent the growth of harmful bacteria and fungi. In 1988, the U.S. surgeon general’s report noted that “Normal microbial flora provide a passive mechanism to prevent infection;” contribute to the destruction of molds, viruses, and parasites; increase the number of immune system cells; create lactic acid, which balances intestinal pH; * protect us from environmental toxins such as pesticides and pollutants, reduce toxic waste at the cellular level, and stimulate the repair mechanism of cells; help maintain healthy cholesterol and triglyceride levels; and break down and rebuild hormones. DON’T BE A BACTERIAIST!!! Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 1:00 pm # Two-thirds of Republicans assume anyone that is not a Christian is going to hell. It certainly makes it easier for them to dehumanize their enemies, either real or perceived. Another epic understanding fail from JTF. Maybe we can submit some of his stuff to failblog. Comment by Hicktard weed chompin' Anti Defamation League on 2/2 @ 1:00 pm # We are watching you. Closely. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 1:01 pm # It just seemed unfair that Democrats were being left out BJTexs. I mean, they too get to have all sorts of weird positions and opinions about the world that have nothing to do with governing the country, don’t they? Comment by LBascom on 2/2 @ 1:01 pm # And as we know, anything that helps digest protein, well…that’s good stuff right there! Comment by Pablo on 2/2 @ 1:02 pm # It certainly makes it easier for them to dehumanize their enemies, either real or perceived. Lefties always jump right to the dehumanization thing, don’t they? It’s almost as if JTF missed the title of the thread. Ironical, ain’t it? Comment by Godbother Association of the South on 2/2 @ 1:03 pm # Speaking for our members, we would not that only Southern believers are racist stupid hilljacks what drive trucks. Our liberal members are more enlightened. That is all. Comment by Pablo on 2/2 @ 1:03 pm # Don’t stereotype hf! Don’t you know there are “friendly” bacteria? And what are them vaccines chock full of? Viruses, that’s what. Comment by LBascom on 2/2 @ 1:04 pm # Sdferr, I knew I should have used bold instead of italics in comment #59! ;-) Comment by mcgruder on 2/2 @ 1:05 pm # Some of the dem deficit splurge was for bailouts, which Bush–although he hated it–initiated. AIG, TARP et al. happened under Bush. I’m writing a book and have interviewed key people close to the guy–he really, really hated bailing out the Street–but he did acknowledge that it was completely necessary. There’s a couple of hundred billion added to the $247bn figure right there. Where Pelosi and Reid go down in history as Laurel and Hardy is being faced with a really bad fiscal situation in 2009 and then continuing on and being…..Pelosi and Reid. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 1:05 pm # Reminds of that great “Far side” cartoon. “Is nothing sacred?” Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 1:06 pm # ok some bacterias are our friends but mostly they’re pathogenic and treacherous I’m pretty sure. You should treat any new bacteria you encounter as potentially harmful. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 1:07 pm # Hey mcgruder, does any of that TARP money have to be paid back? Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 1:07 pm # mcgruder: Will you out yourself when the book is done so that we can read it and give you laud? Comment by mcgruder on 2/2 @ 1:11 pm # Per a commenter above, I don’t think the left so much as worships failure as they do absolutely despise the tradition of moral certainty that Christianity brings. In the absence of Christianity, pretty much everything else is fine. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 1:12 pm # How about the bailout money that has been repaid and then spent all over again? Comment by mcgruder on 2/2 @ 1:16 pm # 182-Well, the thought–don’t laugh–is that they can manage the assets such that over time, the hit is minimal to taxpayers. My guess is that the taxpayers do get hit over time, especially from some of the paper that was created in 05-08. On the equity side, We the people are doing allright. It is being repaid, institution by institution, with some interest. On something like AIG though, and Fannie/Freddie, its much worse than you are being told. The bath there will be epic historical. 183-yes. thanks. Comment by dicentra on 2/2 @ 1:17 pm # Speaking of bacteria, here’s the latest “peer reviewed” source for the IPCC report: a boot-cleaning manual for Antarctic visitors. IPCC 4: “The multiple stresses of climate change and increasing human activity on the Antarctic Peninsula represent a clear vulnerability (see Section 15.6.3), and have necessitated the implementation of stringent clothing decontamination guidelines for tourist landings on the Antarctic Peninsula (IAATO, 2005).” And here’s the boot-cleaning document they sourced. At no time does that document mention climate change. BECAUSE OF THE SETTLED SCIENCE! Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 1:18 pm # they do absolutely despise the tradition of moral certainty that Christianity brings So much for tolerance, eh? Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 1:19 pm # So while it is useful to differentiate one firm from the next, AIG from Goldman, say, or Chrysler from GM from Bank of America, there are no contractual obligations requiring repayment of the monies placed in the corporate hands by the Government? That is interesting to know, if so. Comment by dicentra on 2/2 @ 1:21 pm # vAlso of import to you wingers, it turns out that the coral is dying from extreme weather due to climate change. From record cold, that is. Bitter cold this month may have wiped out many of the shallow water corals in the Keys. Scientists have only begun assessments, with dive teams looking for “bleaching” that is a telltale indicator of temperature stress in sensitive corals, but initial reports are bleak. The impact could extend from Key Largo through the Dry Tortugas west of Key West, a vast expanse that covers some of the prettiest and healthiest reefs in North America. Given the depth and duration of frigid weather, Meaghan Johnson, marine science coordinator for The Nature Conservancy, expected to see losses. But she was stunned by what she saw when diving a patch reef 2.5 miles off Harry Harris Park in Key Largo. Star and brain corals, large species that can take hundreds of years to grow, were as white and lifeless as bones, frozen to death. There were also dead sea turtles, eels and parrotfish littering the bottom. Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 1:22 pm # Star and brain corals Mmmm….BRAINSSSSSSS! Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 1:27 pm # I think it is interesting to note that Barcky is again trying to remove tax credits for charitable contributions, and is now sunsetting his once permanent Make Work Pay transfer payments. Comment by JHo on 2/2 @ 1:31 pm # So, all that yakking about excess spending? By conservatives? Seems the great dawning of the Age of Entitlement was, well, Carter. And it hasn’t abated since. So maybe before the toll goes all apeshit on Republicans during forty years of nearly consecutive Democrat congresses that data should be introduced. I’m sorry, did said spending just explode heavenward in another unprecedented orgy of spendthrift ObieNancyHarry irresponsibility? Why yes, yes it did. Comment by JHo on 2/2 @ 1:31 pm # er, “troll”. Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 1:42 pm # Have you heard the good news, BMoe? You mean besides one of my favorite bars dropping Yuengling to a buck a bottle and a Taxi stand moving in across the street? More good news besides that? Comment by Shorter JTF on 2/2 @ 1:44 pm # But, Busssssshhhhhhhh! That is all. Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 1:48 pm # I don’t think the left so much as worships failure as they do absolutely despise the tradition of moral certainty that Christianity brings. They might not consciously worship it, that was tongue in cheek, but they advocate a system that not just excuses and exploits failure, but encourages and rewards it. It certainly wouldn’t be much of a stretch to say they worship it. Comment by Squid on 2/2 @ 1:53 pm # A buck a bottle? I hate you so much right now, BMoe… Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 1:55 pm # “However, around here I’m more interested in talking about a revolution of thought, and the ultimate consequences of the left’s policies, because some of us need to remain energized so we can pass a more measured energy on to others. If we are all dispassionate, I think it more likely that we will fail to keep this country even having a semblance of what it was.” As regards dispassion, I wouldn’t argue in favor of dispassion, and don’t think I was doing. Rather, I’d argue in favor of (and did think I was) honing our argument on what is provably true, unshakably the case, so to speak. Just so my position back there isn’t misunderstood, this honing can be done with all the passion in the world. It restrains argument for the sake of that result — persuasion — and avoids unnecessary entailment where possible for that end. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 2:07 pm # Essentially, do not go beyond that which is beyond dispute? Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 2:09 pm # The deficit in 2006, the last time the Republicans held the purse strings was $247 Billion. This year it will be $1.6 Trillion+. JTF – What say you ? Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 2:14 pm # Kos wins Poofter of the Day. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 2:15 pm # I’m not sure JD. Every exchange is going to be different depending as they do — these exchanges or political discussions — on the persons involved and the turns the dialog takes, so how far to push a metaphor or take a particular rhetorical tack will be a matter of timely judgment I can’t make from here, once and for all, so to speak. But I do think that in concert, we here can develop an argument which is rooted in undeniable facts, whether of deeds or speeches, that are attributable to no one but Obama himself and that when juxtaposed to the unmistakable political principles of the United States will reveal the untoward purposes he intends for our politics, taken broadly today. Something like that. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 2:17 pm # I am going to start conducting my own polls of moonbats, like Kos did. Anyone have any questions they would like to see polled? Comment by Blake on 2/2 @ 2:17 pm # Wow, I wander away, thread has maybe 35 comments. Enter stupid troll stage left with another pointless and ridiculous poll. Thread goes crazy, hammering troll like Albert Pujols clobbering a belt high fastball. Troll exits stage right in ignominious defeat. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 2:18 pm # I like that idea. Not in anyone else’s words. Just Teh One’s words. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 2:18 pm # JD: Is patchouli passe? Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 2:18 pm # That belt high fastball that Lidge through to Pujols is still orbiting Houston. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 2:19 pm # You’ve been given the keys to the US Treasury. How many days does it take you to clean it out? Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 2:20 pm # That is a silly question, BJ. Were the moonbats to get the keys, that would be the sign that the Apocalypse was upon us, and their silly feel-good budget busting ideas would no longer matter. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 2:22 pm # Trail mix or granola bars? Comment by Blake on 2/2 @ 2:22 pm # Keys to the Treasury..clean it out…You mean, fire everyone at Treasury and start over? Comment by Joe on 2/2 @ 2:23 pm # Frank Rich is unpatriotic and mendacious. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 2:23 pm # unshakably the case I like that. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 2:27 pm # sdferr, I am going to continue to be hyperbolic. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 2:30 pm # Which is most likely going to do you no harm at all cranky-d, unless you become that which you are not, i.e. Pam Gellar, or one who cannot recognize their own hyperbole to save their life. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 2:34 pm # I’ve found that when I get too hyperbolic I have a pressing need for something hyperbaric. Comment by Shorter JTF on 2/2 @ 2:36 pm # I am not sure it is possible to be hyperbolic when describing teh suck that is Teh One. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 2:37 pm # Or, looking down from her vantage, see the underside of her tits as they pendulate beneath her chin. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 2:38 pm # Oops. My bad. Comment by BJTex on 2/2 @ 2:40 pm # A little something for JTF: Scroll down to the deficit chart. Karl opines: As bad as that looks for Pres. Obama, it is worse when you consider that Hennessey assigns the overwhelming majority of the TARP spending and their deficit “blame” to Pres. Bush. Even granting Obama that, his smallest proposed deficit is roughly a third larger than the Bush average. Incidentally, if I was a Democrat outside the Obama administration, I might start getting concerned over the thrust of Obama’s finger-pointing. Voters hearing it may end up concluding (rightly or wrongly) that the government did a better job restraining the growth of spending when we last had a Democrat for President… and a Republican Congress. Obama’s argument may stoke a desire for checks-and-balances, even gridlock. And if I was a Democrat, I would notice that Obama is not shy about throwing anyone under his bus, if he thinks he can get better traction for himself. Please try not to crap all over yourself, JTF. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 2:42 pm # JTF already pooped his pants. He wants the government to clean him up and give him some fresh undies. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 2:45 pm # “The bigger the Government, the smaller the people” There is something we might ought to note about this clever phrase. That is, the smallness has to refer to the people taken collectively and not as individuals. An example might suffice. Suppose we were to say this about ourselves today, as having seen our Government grow beyond any proportion we’ve known heretofore in living memory, assuming most of us were not alive or politically aware during the earlier years of the Roosevelt admin, say 1932 – 1937. Yet what can we say when we look on David Petraeus? Would we dare call him small? I don’t think so. Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 2:47 pm # Reminds of that great “Far side” cartoon. Gahan Wilson != Gary Larson. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 2:49 pm # They both have an odd take on reality, though Gahan Wilson takes it a bit further. Both are awesome. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 2:51 pm # test: — & n e ; — ≠ Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 2:53 pm # Yeah, but “The Far Side” is Larson’s, and I’m pretty sure Gahan Wilson would prefer not to have his work confused with that of another. It would be like somebody attributing one of my comments to, um, somebody else… who’s like me… but not exactly… Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 2:54 pm # ≠ Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 2:54 pm # Thanks, sdferr. I learn something new every day. Comment by LBascom on 2/2 @ 2:54 pm # I find it distressing that on the day the deficit is projected to be 21 Trillion by 2020, time is being spent with talk of repealing don’t ask don’t tell. Not that that discussion is wrong, but what’s distressing is that it’s an obvious ploy to get Republicans to beclown themselves, and it will likely work. we are so screwed… Comment by Mr. W on 2/2 @ 2:56 pm # Please stop trying to confuse the liberal trolls with historical facts regarding deficits, budgets, economics, or anything else. The troll worldview is very fragile right now, and we need them to really support Obama as he rushes headlong into oblivion taking his outdated party with him. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 2:59 pm # I was too lazy to find the comment you referred to, McGehee. I had to jump in anyway. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 3:01 pm # Mr W, have you spent thought speculating on what they will replace their left politics with? And I’m asking seriously here, btw, as it is a matter of some great concern to us all should the running left paradigm fail them. What will they do? Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 3:02 pm # John Murtha has been admitted to the ICU after complications from gall bladder surgery. I hope he recovers, realizes that life is short, and retires from public office to spend more time with his family. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 3:03 pm # amen to that cranky-d, no one in Congress better deserves to be away from that pit of vipers than the doddering Rep. from racist-land. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 3:06 pm # Exploding gall Bladders are teh suck. Real bad. I wish that Murtha fellow good health, and a hasty retirement. Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 3:09 pm # John Murtha has been admitted to the ICU after complications from gall bladder surgery. Can you imagine how full that poor thing must have been? Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 3:12 pm # You made me laugh, B Moe. Comment by Zelda on 2/2 @ 3:19 pm # “Two-thirds of Republicans assume anyone that is not a Christian is going to hell. It certainly makes it easier for them to dehumanize their enemies, either real or perceived.” Except that they don’t want them to go to hell, hence the enthusiastic proselytizing of evangelicals. Personally, I think it leads to refusing to recognize their enemies as enemies. Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 3:31 pm # Wonder if we should tell JTF that Obama is a Christian? Comment by newrouter on 2/2 @ 3:52 pm # “Rep. John Murtha Hospitalized in Intensive Care” i hope he fails Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 3:52 pm # Zelda rocks. That is all. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 3:53 pm # My political “enemies” are just people I wish would come around to my way of thinking. Most of them aren’t deserving of my hate, except those in public office, and those I just want to leave office and live out their lives without bothering me. I’ve only wished a few of them dead, but it was fleeting and I got over it. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 3:54 pm # BMoe – JTF’s pointy little head would assplode if he tried to get his little brain around that. My gall bladder had 1 ginormous gallstone, and 58 little baby ones, before it decided it had had enough. Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 3:56 pm # OT: Hey, kids, is there any windows program you think is needed but not available? I write C# .net stuff, or did until a few weeks ago, and I’m looking for ideas on what to do next. Comment by Abe Froman on 2/2 @ 4:01 pm # The left doesn’t really believe Obama is an Xtian. They think it’s a politically opportunistic lie which they wholly approve of. And the best part is that it doesn’t matter what the actual truth is. If Obama is a man of faith then the lefties are morons for disparaging others who are. If he’s a fraud and they approve then they reveal themselves to be human excrement. Epic win for us either way. Comment by Kresh on 2/2 @ 4:01 pm # Cranky; Something that lets me unzip a whole assload of files at once, instead of one at a time. LOL! I just read that as “…lets me unzip a whole assload of flies at once…” Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 4:02 pm # I just noticed something interesting. Go to ESPNs website and look at the NBA page, every story is about basketball. NFL page, every story is about football. Go to that redneck, racist NASCAR page? About a third of the stories are about Haiti. Funny that. Comment by newrouter on 2/2 @ 4:02 pm # i hope he ~~fails~~ retires Comment by Robert W. White on 2/2 @ 4:09 pm # I’d like an application that can pull the property attributes of groups of objects from Active Directory into a table. (Excel, RTF, CVS, or db). Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 4:14 pm # cranky-d, this dingleberry Scott Burnside needs a window program that will enable him to look down the schedule before he writes stupid things like this: How tough is it that you can win 10 straight games and still not get to the top of the rankings? Well, that’s life for the Caps, who are penalized (ever so slightly) by playing in the conference of the lost. The loss of Mike Green to suspension (three games for elbowing Michael Frolik) and potentially an injured knee (bruise) could be a big blow in coming days. Big blow, wow, deadly. I mean, what if they just keep on winning despite the absence of Green? Tonight, for instance, they’ve got Boston away, 1 – 9 in their last 10, barely over .500 on the year. Thurs they’ve go to MSG and the Rangers, 3 – 7 in their last 10, again right at .500 on the year. Fri, Green’s last day of suspension, Atl comes to DC. Boy are they tearing it up, 2 full games over .500 and 5 – 5 in their last 10. Whew, the Caps better be careful, huh? Grrrr. Sat the Caps just might loose, with the Stanley Cup Champeen Penguins coming to Wash. This is a team with oomph. Albeit, oomph defeated on their own home ice two weeks ago, but oomph nonetheless. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 4:18 pm # I’d like an application that can pull the property attributes of groups of objects from Active Directory into a table. (Excel, RTF, CVS, or db). Whoa slow down. We don’t even have the static cling vaccine perfected yet. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 4:21 pm # cranky-d I have programs I need… you should make a pub post… we talk Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 4:21 pm # sunday, sorry guinsPen. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 4:22 pm # course I haven’t done the part where I spend hours snurfling through stuff online yet Comment by McGehee on 2/2 @ 4:33 pm # I was going to ask for an update to the text-formatting toolbar extension for Firefox 3.6, but I already found it. Comment by Mr. W on 2/2 @ 4:33 pm # John Murtha will be just fine since ‘only the good die young’. Hey! I know! We should chip in and send him up north for some of that awesome single-payer care he keeps pushing! Comment by newrouter on 2/2 @ 4:53 pm # 80 To 90 Democratic House Seats In Play? This might actually be the most signficant political news of the day: All told, 126 House Republican challengers — that’s those running in open seats or against Democratic incumbents — reported having at least $100,000 in their campaign accounts. Forty-two of those have at least $200,000, and 10 have at least $500,000. There’s some overlap in competitive primaries. But the numbers generally support the view voiced by Republicans that they expect to put between 80 and 90 Democratic-held seats in play. They need to pick up 40 seats this year to take back control of the House. And even candidates generally considered safe — such as Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., and Rep. David Wu, D-Ore. — are likely to face well-funded challengers this year. Whoever is challenging Patrick Kennedy had better get David Gergen in town to moderate a debate. Some of these totals are jaw-dropping. In Florida’s 22nd Congressional District, Allen West has $707,150.50 cash-on-hand and no debt. In Pennsylvania’s 7th Congressional District, Pat Meehan has $694,207.14 on hand and a little over $5,000 in debt. In Maryland’s 1st Congressional District, Andy Harris has $497,226.85 on hand and about $2,500 in debt. link Comment by LTC John on 2/2 @ 5:20 pm # Political ‘enemies” eh? Like Hekmatyar Gulbuddin? Murtha? He is not an “enemy” – just an extremely disreputable and corrupt politician. I want Gulbuddin dead. And I would do it myself if I could. I want Murtha retired, prosecuted or defeated in an election. I would vote against him in an election, and the the other stuff would not be mine to do or to try. Big difference… Comment by B Moe on 2/2 @ 5:26 pm # I am trying to find some sympathy for the treacherous old bastard, but I keep thinking of how many American soldiers were likely killed or wounded by his grandstanding, demagoguery and lies. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 5:33 pm # Not to mention the large sums he and his cronies have looted from the US Treasury B Moe. Comment by newrouter on 2/2 @ 5:39 pm # thinking of murtha update: i hope he fails “There was no firefight, there was no IED (improvised explosive device) that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” Comment by Joe McGrath on 2/2 @ 6:37 pm # Scott Burnside Now I remember !!! Comment by Lazarus Long on 2/2 @ 7:17 pm # “Comment by cranky-d on 2/2 @ 3:02 pm # John Murtha has been admitted to the ICU after complications from gall bladder surgery.” Nothing minor, I hope. Comment by Darleen on 2/2 @ 7:43 pm # JTF above has posted as James, Mary, Tim, End of America, Big Picture and End the Fillibuster (on previous thread at #112) posting from proxy server in Switzerland IP 94.230.214.229 Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 7:44 pm # I remember End of America kind of. Comment by geoffb on 2/2 @ 8:16 pm # Last episode of “Dollhouse” right? No, sorry that was “End of World”. Comment by LBascom on 2/2 @ 8:17 pm # I thought end of America was from Quebec. Anyway, fuckin’ foreigners shouldn’t be trying to influence our politics. Comment by geoffb on 2/2 @ 8:18 pm # Proxies can be from anywhere. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 8:22 pm # That was good tv I thought. Comment by cynn on 2/2 @ 8:25 pm # What IS with the CSI level dissection of any unknown IP address which dares to offend you? You are encouraging attacks on people. You are assuming they are malevolent, but you don’t know that. I’m no expert on this, but you come off as either vindictive or paranoid. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 8:32 pm # So suppose you hear someone you haven’t identified at your front door cynn, telling you through the door all the nasty manner of ways they’re going to carve you up and you have no desire to learn who they are, whether they are serious or kidding? Nothing? No curiosity at all? You just take it as all of a piece with some benign tv commercial you’d pay no mind and go on about your business? Comment by Darleen on 2/2 @ 8:40 pm # What IS with the CSI level dissection of any unknown IP address cynn, what is it that we should not know that one troll is littering the threads with scat under several names? Comment by cynn on 2/2 @ 8:52 pm # sfderr, if I’m that scared I slam and lock the door and call the cops. Darleen, if one troll is scamming this site, rather than posting a bunch of grandiose pronouncements, you might just block them and report them to the proper authorities. But I don’t know the protocol, as it were. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 8:59 pm # You needn’t be scared cynn if you have doubt whether you are being addressed seriously or jokingly and have no way to tell. Besides your door is already closed and locked, yet this unknown visitor insists on yelling at you through the closed door. Further, as has been explained to you over again, neither Darleen nor Jeff can block proxy ip’s, there simply isn’t any means to prevent them shouting through the door. And in this net-tubes world, there are no cops to call. Comment by newrouter on 2/2 @ 9:01 pm # “but you come off as either vindictive or paranoid.” the paranoiod style: blame g w bush Comment by geoffb on 2/2 @ 9:02 pm # “Candy-gram” Comment by cynn on 2/2 @ 9:07 pm # sdferr: You must be trying to pull an E. A. Poe trip on me. I can hear the heartbeat, but they can’t make it clear. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:14 pm # “…trying to pull an E. A. Poe trip on me…” Nope, sorry, that never occurred to me, though perhaps it might have, it didn’t. I was actually curious that you seem to attribute to those who were interested in finding out who was addressing them some odd lack of curiosity in themselves, leading me to wonder whether you had none with which to compare your own reaction to theirs. Instead you found vindictiveness or paranoia, neither of which are present that I can see. Those just seemed odd choices, is all. Comment by cynn on 2/2 @ 9:16 pm # sdferr: Sorry, unafraid by any measure. You are trying to scare me and I’m not biting. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 9:17 pm # Plus, they are fucking cowards. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:18 pm # “You are trying to scare me…” This is idiotic. Don’t be a dope. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 9:29 pm # Mr. bh is … he’s not here. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:30 pm # jammed up to his eyeballs with work maybe? Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 9:32 pm # That could be it. Or Lost maybe. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 9:32 pm # watching the show I mean Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:33 pm # That’s a thing that Lost isn’t it? Should I go out of the way to watch the story from its inception, knowing little to nothing but dribs and drabs of it now, or is’t not so much worth it, I wonder? Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 9:36 pm # I don’t know… I have several seasons here and I never got past season 1 episode 6… NG says right up through last season they kept the flashback format… flashbacks assume you care what happened before… That’s a really big assumption. Comment by cynn on 2/2 @ 9:38 pm # sdferr: What do you want me to concede? The intranignent right always demeands something. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:40 pm # Here’s the thing I’m thinking on. Namely, whether it is possible to rid government of the right to create economic subsidy, whether such an attempt to get government out of markets would be or could be constitutional, whether any such attempt would merely be ever more and more cleverly circumnavigated in a never-ending competition, an arms race of influence buying, so to speak. anyhow, that’s it. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 9:42 pm # You can’t cause then you couldn’t privatize anything… it would work backwards. The unsubsidizably private would become the subsidizable public. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 9:43 pm # meaning, for example, car making would simply become a fitting and proper function of government Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:45 pm # Could we write a ban into the constitution? Like, Congress shall make no law subsidizing economic activity through the appropriation of Federal funds… Something like that. But of course it couldn’t be something like that, since it would be got round by the application of tax policy to reward the friends of congress and punish the enemies, so it would get longer with addition of clause after clause in an attempt to account for every conceivable use of the law writing power to shove money now this way, now that. Impossible. Or as Ric says, the ants find the sugar. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:46 pm # Still, milk producers subsidy is an offense against reason, as is sugar subsidy, etc etc on down the line. It brings nothing but ruin. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 9:49 pm # The sugar one is kooky. We’ll not have much choice but to end them soon if that helps. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:49 pm # “…car making would simply become a fitting and proper function of government…” We couldn’t say (that is, write law that says), “government is barred from making anything other than law, though government may purchase what it needs from privately held interests”? Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 9:54 pm # Or, “directing the economy is not the province of government.” Period. Full stop. “Enterprise may grow and enterprise may fail. Government will save no enterprise, nor aid in any growth.” Period. Full stop. — (?) It’s an impossible disentanglement. Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 9:55 pm # It’s just … look what they did with the commerce clause… we just have to be vigilant. Cause of that’s so damn effective. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 10:00 pm # Summary execution at the conclusion of two terms served, come rain or shine wouldn’t help, would it? Comment by bh on 2/2 @ 10:08 pm # Hey folks. Yeah, too much work piled up, then a long workout. Now, time for a drink and Lost. Which I recommend, btw. Both. Later. Comment by dicentra on 2/2 @ 10:26 pm # Three hundred! Tonight we dine in hell! Comment by geoffb on 2/2 @ 10:28 pm # The only thing that works as far as I can see is to make it harder to raise taxes and complete transparency on where money spent goes. Cui-bono. Then voters get to decide. It would be nice if the House of Representatives could only be elected by those who are net tax payers since all taxes and spending come from there. Comment by LTC John on 2/2 @ 10:28 pm # “I’m no expert on this”. No, no you aren’t. But that hasn’t stopped you from throwing out all sorts of half-insane accusations. How ’bouts you just stay away from the scary PW people then? Some jackass, sockpuppeting troll comes by and you find it ominous/paranoid that someone reveals the depth of sockpuppeting? Back to the Ernst and Julio for you. Try the Burgundy. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 10:29 pm # Good, I’m hungry….. so, what are we eatin’? Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 10:31 pm # I got Granny Smith apples, sugar, lard, butter, flour, salt, cinnamon and an oven. Any suggestions? Comment by geoffb on 2/2 @ 10:35 pm # Pie or Cobbler? Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 10:37 pm # That’s the makings of a fine apple crisp. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 10:38 pm # Pie, I’m thinking. Though mebbe I ought to give a cobbler a try? Comment by geoffb on 2/2 @ 10:40 pm # Since you have lard might as well be pie. More crust. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 10:41 pm # Si, and crust and I get along very well. Sides, I already eat biscuits by the dozens and cobbler is a kinda buscuity thing. Comment by JD on 2/2 @ 10:44 pm # Saute the apples in butter and cinnamon before you bake it. Comment by Slartibartfast on 2/2 @ 10:45 pm # “intranigent”? Cynn, please don’t comment drunk. It reflects poorly on both you and the booze. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 10:47 pm # So the econ guys at George Mason are making a study of this Public Choice Theory, which more or less gists out as looking at government types, be they legislators, executives, regulators or whathaveyou, as economic actors in their own right, selling their services in a market as they see their individual interests guiding their decisions. What I don’t know is whether these students of theory have learned ways and means that the ostensible masters of these government employees may take their employees in hand to keep them out of messing up the other markets abroad in the land. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 10:48 pm # “Saute the apples in butter and cinnamon before you bake it.” This I will do. It’s only right. Comment by geoffb on 2/2 @ 10:48 pm # Can be but I make it with a top crust, no bottom in a square pan. Basically a bottomless pie. Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 10:52 pm # Cobbler, yes, that’s how I think of it too geoffb. How’s your dough act? That is, do you leave it quite sticky so that it really has to be dropped from a spoon? This is my practice, anyhow. Whereas my biscuit would be exactly the same dough (no egg), just a touch drier to permit handling and cutting (I’m not a drop biscuit maker). Comment by sdferr on 2/2 @ 11:03 pm # That Adam Andrzejewski fella doesn’t seem to have fared too well this day. Dillard , Kirk 142,845 20% Brady , Bill 140,015 20% McKenna , Andy 136,052 19% Ryan , Jim 121,184 17% Andrzejewski , Adam 103,186 15% Proft , Dan 55,419 8% Schillerstrom , Bob 6,798 1% Comment by happyfeet on 2/2 @ 11:58 pm # What’s the big deal with Adam Andrzejewski? Is it a cable news thing? one of my Hot Air friends posted this and I asked her why she liked Adam so much but she didn’t answer. Cause they all hate me. Hatey Hot Air haters. Comment by maggie katzen on 2/3 @ 12:25 am # I don’t think so hf, but then, I’ve been out of the loop a bit. I did find this which seems to cover it. Lech Walesa! Comment by happyfeet on 2/3 @ 12:35 am # no, for reals. They leave me little notes like this. happyfeet on February 3, 2010 at 2:00 AM Idiot. On a serious note; please return to the facility immediately. The people who post on this site are on to you. carbon_footprint on February 3, 2010 at 2:05 AM Jeez I have feelings you know. Over there when you talk about someone you copy their timestamp. Thanks though now I get about Adam. At that site you can download a pdf what is named successadam.pdf. He made a fortune really young selling telephone directories. For Adam, family meals are non-negotiable. Comment by happyfeet on 2/3 @ 12:37 am # oops. That’s Adam’s brother Abe what doesn’t negotiate family meals. You might could work a family dinner deal with Adam. It doesn’t say where he stands on that. Comment by maggie katzen on 2/3 @ 12:38 am # oh, I was talking about it being a “cable news thing” but, I think I would just leave the HA people alone. Comment by happyfeet on 2/3 @ 12:41 am # oh. I think you’re right it wouldn’t have popped to cable news… They’re kind of stupid mostly but there are a few there what sparkle. Some lady named Kendra is all I can remember off-hand. Comment by happyfeet on 2/3 @ 1:00 am # there are words for this I’m almost sure but what are they? Comment by happyfeet on 2/3 @ 1:41 am # omg… this never happens. this guy has been at my Ralph’s since I got here… he’s a checker and his is not a bad line to get into cause of he’s not one of the stupid ones. He has a song about cows. Comment by B Moe on 2/3 @ 4:20 am # But of course it couldn’t be something like that, since it would be got round by the application of tax policy to reward the friends of congress and punish the enemies, so it would get longer with addition of clause after clause in an attempt to account for every conceivable use of the law writing power to shove money now this way, now that. Impossible. That is the best feature of the FairTax. And also why it is doomed. The bill as written requires the repeal of the income tax amendment, whichever one that is. The 12? The intent being to get the government to stop using tax policy as a weapon. Comment by UNRR on 2/3 @ 4:30 am # This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 2/3/2010, at The Unreligious Right Comment by Patrick Chester on 2/3 @ 5:35 am # It’s like a Dr Sanity posting. She notes problems the proggs exhibit and voom in come folks like JTF eager to provide examples of what she was talking about. Comment by Silver Whistle on 2/3 @ 5:55 am # Patrick, There are some very bright proggs out there – Oliver Kamm is one of them, yet he writes leaders for The Times (!). You may have read his iconoclastic piece on the recent demise of a progg hero, Howard Zinn. The comments there are of a piece with the progg trolls here: the exact opposite of Mr Kamm. Mindless. I supose there must be yin to yang for the universe to be in balance. Comment by Rusty on 2/3 @ 5:57 am # 16th, moe. Comment by Rusty on 2/3 @ 6:00 am # #317 Because everybody else on the list is connected to the Illinois political machine in some way. Comment by Carin on 2/3 @ 6:02 am # Happy, we told you about Hot Air. Comment by happyfeet on 2/3 @ 8:00 am # Yes you did. Comment by McGehee on 2/3 @ 9:12 am # What IS with the CSI level dissection of any unknown IP address which dares to offend you? Cynn, have you ever heard of astroturf? Comment by Cynns hidden brain on 2/3 @ 9:29 am # Cynn, have you ever heard of astroturf? Heard of it? I’m passed out on it right now! Comment by cranky-d on 2/3 @ 11:03 am # Kresh, if you want to unzip a lot of files at once, you can use Winrar for that. It’s shareware, but if you do that task often, it should be worth it. You get a 30 day trial. Comment by cynn on 2/3 @ 7:58 pm # slart #311: I was clearly referring to our other-gendered friends. Please curb your hatred. Trackback by Ephedra. on 2/27 @ 11:42 pm # Ephedra…. Chronic ephedra abuse. Ephedra 30mg. Ephedra products for sale. Back ephedra market. Ephedra for sports. Ephedra…. RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI: http://proteinwisdom.com/wp-trackback.php?p=16557 Leave a comment If you want to leave a feedback to this post or to some other user´s comment, simply fill out the form below. Name (required) E-mail (required) URI Your Comment « Obama to private sector: Drop dead [Darleen Click] \| Home \| Andrew Breitbart on All Things Considered…(The Sanity Inspector) »
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