Race. How does it work these days, race-managers? Because, ironically, freedom is the topic. It’s the ideal worth sacrificing for again.
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Comment by Mr. W on 11/25 @ 8:03 am #
Funny, I don’t see a teleprompter. How does he do that?
Clearly, those words were written for him by some Republican since Jesse says that no right-thinking African-American would think that way.
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 8:12 am #
This guy’s good. He’s got a white ghostwriter, right? You can’t write stuff like that and call yourself a black man.
Comment by SBP on 11/25 @ 8:21 am #
I’m pretty sure that’s not a real black man. Can’t be. He didn’t mention liberation theology even one time.
Comment by Carin on 11/25 @ 8:23 am #
Silly guy. He thinks he got to where he is on his own merit.
Everyone knows a black guy can’t get ahead w/o AA. He’s DELUDED I say.
Comment by JHo on 11/25 @ 8:28 am #
If Mr. Allen were white, and had he spoken out against the welfare state, would he be a racist? Because I think justifying the welfare state makes statism the preferred, endorsed condition.
Wasn’t the Civil War fought against race statism? Or does the topic require a grasp of semantics above my pay grade? Is SQEK present, or in the house?
This is why I ask our race-managers how race works. Am I racist for asking race-managers how race works? Or does that depend on the color of my skin? Do I need a disclaimer attached to my posts?
Comment by Mr. W on 11/25 @ 8:32 am #
Believing in the founding principles that made this nation the greatest beacon of freedom in the history of mankind will earn him the moniker “Uncle Tom” amongst the enlightened.
Comment by cranky-d on 11/25 @ 8:33 am #
You’re a racist for even asking the question. You’re a racist if you bring up facts that don’t fit teh narrative. And finally, you’re a racist just because they say so, nya, nya, nya. I’m pretty sure that’s how it works.
Comment by JD on 11/25 @ 8:38 am #
SEK and thor and ronald maximus and meyay/RD and willie the racist skind flute players and all over their mendoucheous gender-bending sock puppets should be along shortly to tell you how fucking racist you are, just for being of a different mind than others.
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 8:43 am #
Well, duh.
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 8:46 am #
FTFY.
What kind of nigger are you?
Comment by Mr. W on 11/25 @ 8:47 am #
I pity the fellow who is tasked with debating this gentleman. Can you imagine trotting out failed leftist orthodoxy in the face of a sustained extemporaneous recital of America’s virtues from Mr. Allen?
Comment by JHo on 11/25 @ 8:49 am #
Tru. And in SQEK comments one Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain did himself pronounce our ‘feets evidently racist, good lord. So the evidence mounts.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 8:49 am #
The only “race” that should matter is the use of the word in the context fair open competition.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 8:56 am #
Col. West is a hero and I hope he wins. He is a stand up warrior.
Meanwhile, Glenn Beck has unfortunately jumped the shark with this advice.
Allah was completely wrong in his beta male response regarding the Seals facing courts martial (and Blackfive and Smitty at the Other McCain are all over it, but Captain Ed is correct in going after Glenn Beck.
Comment by Mr. W on 11/25 @ 9:03 am #
Actually, my previous note was a bit harsh.
It would have been more accurate to point out that leftist orthodoxy has only failed when it has been tried. And measurable failure depends on the metrics one uses to rate success too.
If left-wing success is measured using the time honored ‘body-bags filled in gulags’ metric, then leftist policies have no equal. Just ask the *131,265,382 victims of commumism!
*Good records are the hallmark of a well-run totalitarian state.
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 9:04 am #
I’d give the very same advice. And I’d also suggest giving anyone currently employed as a CIA agent a full mental and emotional workup. You’re quite possibly insane if you put your ass on the line for people who hold you in such low regard, especially when they’re as much of a threat to your well being as any of our adversaries.
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 9:10 am #
Isn’t it strange that folks like that (call ‘em l’Accusationiste Raciale ,or maybe Aloz Elime-s) think Darleen or anyone, in wanting something good — say, a functional constitutional government making way for maximal liberty interests — wants that good in a manner that would go out of the way to deny its fruits to a gassily defined (“structural inequalities”? — if defined at all, mostly I notice it isn’t) group never mentioned as such? And wants most of all what can’t be escaped in any case (disproportion, l’inégalité)? Something twisted this way comes.
Comment by Mr. W on 11/25 @ 9:11 am #
Joe,
The SEIU frowns on fair and open competition.
Large guys dressed in purple shirts, and some pleasant ACORN ‘community organizers’ will be stopping by your house later to show you how to play Barry’s favorite game, ‘kick you off the ballot’.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 9:17 am #
Pablo, having a professional military is more important than any one man or any one bad leader. I am no fan of Obama as CIC. I would not fault anyone member of the military or CIA making that decision on their own given the circumstances, but Beck need should not be promoting it. It is demogogery bullshit.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 9:18 am #
And Mr. W, you are correct about Obama and the SEIU when it comes to poltiical race(s).
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 9:25 am #
So, he shouldn’t express a firmly held opinion because…why? And that prevents people from making decisions on their own…how?
Comment by McGehee on 11/25 @ 9:33 am #
Pablo, come on now. You know that the expression of an honestly held opinion makes some guy on the radio a brazillion times more powerful than even the Teleprompter-in-Chief!
Comment by Mr. W on 11/25 @ 9:39 am #
Joe,
The SEIU supports candidates of any color, as long as they’re Reds at heart.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 9:39 am #
Pablo, the correct way to deal with Barack Obama is for us to elect a better candidate in 2012, not to boycot service in the armed forces. I would rather Beck say not pay our taxes (provided he did it first to be the protest test civil disobediance case). Now that would show some balls on Beck’s part.
Comment by EJ D on 11/25 @ 9:42 am #
Pablo, having a professional military is more important than any one man or any one bad leader. I am no fan of Obama as CIC. I would not fault anyone member of the military or CIA making that decision on their own given the circumstances, but Beck need should not be promoting it. It is demogogery bullshit.
Yeah, the idea of a professional military ready to defend us and above political machinations is commendable and desirous. But in practice it’s my nephew that will be joining the USMC, following mine and his father’s footsteps, this fall and I advised him against it because I don’t want him being killed during a ’strategic pullout’ or brought up on charges for punching a terrorist in the mouth.
Glen Beck is a reactionary, but this advice is sound. You can’t make the claim that someone coming to that conclusion is o.k., but helping them come to that conclusion isn’t.
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 9:45 am #
Joe, how come you say “…way to deal with Barack Obama”? That is, why do you take a calculation presumably to be made in the interests of the individual potential volunteer as a function of a political scheme rather than a decision made in interest?
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 9:48 am #
Glen Beck is a reactionary, but this advice is sound. You can’t make the claim that someone coming to that conclusion is o.k., but helping them come to that conclusion isn’t.
I do not trust Barack Obama as CIC or the current Congress and it is disgusting what is happening to those charged Navy Seals, but is Beck doing this for ratings and attention or because he really believes it. Call me skeptical on the later? The focus needs to be on getting Barack Obama replaced with a better CIC and changing the power in Congress. I would have more respect for Beck if he did something that put him at risk.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 9:53 am #
Joe, how come you say “…way to deal with Barack Obama”? That is, why do you take a calculation presumably to be made in the interests of the individual potential volunteer as a function of a political scheme rather than a decision made in interest?
I am not sure what that means. I need more coffee.
Read what Ed Morrissey said, when Kerry and Reid made these same arguments about Iraq we criticized them. Why is it okay to make these same arguemnts now? As much as I do not like Obama’s leadership and want him replaced in 2012, I do not want him to pull out of Afghanistan. I want him to do what is necessary to win there. Becuase not doing that will hurt our country not just in fighting terrorism but over all around the world.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 9:54 am #
…but over all around the world.
I need that coffee stat.
Comment by Mr. W on 11/25 @ 9:56 am #
Joe,
How could we elect someone worse than Obama has been thus far? Is Carter back in the game?
Even Obama’s most ardent devotees are beginning to see the looming political trainwreck his policies are leading them to. the Democrats may not be much concerned with America, but they damn sure value their own hides.
The preferred media-driven narrative cannot withstand the pathological incompetence that is fast becoming the hallmark of this administration. At the rate he’s burning political capital, Obama will be fortunate to last four years.
I wonder if anyone has ever been impeached by their own party?
Comment by EJ D on 11/25 @ 9:58 am #
More proof wingnuts only care that their candidates spout the proper dogma.
comedy gold
Methinks you don’t realize that you’re highlighting the fact that the ‘wingnuts’ that voted for The Partner With God only did it because he spouted the proper dogma and now that he’s in office he isn’t actually following through…
Comment by Lazarus Long on 11/25 @ 9:59 am #
“…the most expensive thing in the world is a second-best military establishment, good but not good enough to win.”
Robert A. Heinlein in “The Happy Days Ahead”, Expanded Universe
Comment by SDN on 11/25 @ 9:59 am #
Because Kerry and Reid are and were lying sacks of shit, who were lying in the face of history.
Comment by Lazarus Long on 11/25 @ 10:02 am #
Beck is WAAYYYY off base with this, edging over into the crazy column.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 10:04 am #
17.Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 9:10 am
As a youngster, I had a lot of “defining moments” that crystalized the kind of ostensible “Fight Racism!” meme that was really a figleaf for a Left authoritarian ideology.
When I was a junior in high school, 1971, as part of my US History class, one of the teachers held a “lecture”. I put quotes around that word because it was really a harrange. He was one of the younger and more popular teachers and happened to be Latino. He spent the better part of 40 minutes demogoguing that all the non-Latino students in the class were living on “stolen land”. That we all were racists and oppressors and even if we started that day to try and make amends to the Latino students in the class, we never would be able to because of the generations of stealing, murdering, raping, pillaging that each of us were now responsible for could never be truly repaid. He pointed out students in the class and got in their faces, he was intimidating and condescending.
I was no shy thing in high school and raised my hand. I told the teacher that each person is responsible only for their own actions and behavior. I told him, too, that my dad grew up as one of the poorest of the poor in East and Central Los Angeles and he had instilled in me that racism is particularly stupid because talent, goodness and character knows no race. I said my father taught me that any business man who lets racism make the decision on talent is cutting off his nose to spite his face …. at which point the teacher sneered at me and announced loudly, “Yeah, your old man would hire Mexicans, he just won’t have them at his dinner table.”
This teacher a month later was the founder of the first La Raza club on campus. I actually attended about 4 meetings to see what was going on until the hostility towards me finally made me say to myself “screw it, let them wallow in their hate.”
These kind of race-mongers really don’t want race to be de-emphasized. They have a investment in keeping people divided. No good deed (say, like the Tuohys and Michael Oher) is done just because it is a good deed. If one isn’t a member in good standing of the Left, then the deed is for nefarious motives.
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 10:05 am #
You think he doesn’t believe it? Or that he needs a ratings boost?
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 10:07 am #
For starters, Glenn Beck is not a United States Senator.
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 10:15 am #
“I am not sure what that means.”
Assume for a moment that it isn’t about Obama’s future, Joe. It means nothing less than that I take Beck, sight unseen in the flesh, as making a recommendation to potential volunteers based in their own interests, rather than based on an interest in undermining Barack Obama’s next campaign. That isn’t hard to tell, is it? The question is why do you take the contrary, that Beck isn’t making a sincere recommendation to potential volunteers, but is making a show of a recommendation intended to muddle a future political campaign? Seems to me you are over-complicating a fairly simple matter with non sequiturs.
Comment by Mr. W on 11/25 @ 10:16 am #
I keep waiting for the day when Beck finally channels his inner ‘Network’…
“…I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to TAKE it anymore!”
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 10:17 am #
“For starters, Glenn Beck is not a United States Senator.” I agree that makes Reid and Kerry far more contemptable.
I am not a Beck hater. I do not watch him on TV, but I ocassional listen to him on the radio and he is not insane. I just disagree with him getting on his soap box and telling members of the military to bail out. I think Beck sort of believes it, but he likes the fact controversy creates a ratings boost too.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 10:21 am #
The question is why do you take the contrary, that Beck isn’t making a sincere recommendation to potential volunteers, but is making a show of a recommendation intended to muddle a future political campaign?
I guess I am a bit more skeptical about Beck’s (and for that matter O’Reilly’s) motives in doing stories for their respective shows. I do not think they are complete partisan whores (like Olbermann and Matthews), but they are also about creating populist controversy to drive ratings.
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/25 @ 10:21 am #
Wouldn’t an Obama-West matchup be great? One guy fought terrorists and the other started his political career in a terrorist’s living room.
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 10:23 am #
Darleen, it almost seems as though we could boil out two world views: on the one hand, a zero-sum world and on the other a non-zero sum world. Race-baiters take the former stance, where the rest of us take the latter.
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 10:24 am #
I’d enjoy seeing your encounter with Beck the TV-man face to face Joe. Where you could make your case and hear his answer.
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 10:27 am #
Yes, I’m sure that he likes making gobs of money expressing his opinion. I don’t quite see the ratings boost from that particular statement (which was expressed to one particular military member, his nephew) or that he really needs a ratings boost, given that he’s utterly destroying his competition.
He mentioned something yesterday about being accused of doing the seminars he’s planning next year to sell books. Then he mentioned the 3 million or so books he’s sold this year without them.
Comment by Lazarus Long on 11/25 @ 10:27 am #
Kinda OT, but this is stunning:
“Help Wanted, No Private Sector Experience Required”
http://blog.american.com/?p=7572
via Insty.
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 10:29 am #
Again, both are already ratings monsters. If populist controversy drives ratings, why are Olby and Matthews in the ratings toilet?
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 10:34 am #
Pablo, in order to understand, maybe we should ask ourselves WWAYD*, and all will be clear?
*what would a Yenta do
Comment by royf on 11/25 @ 10:54 am #
Comment by Snowcone on 11/25 @ 9:56 am
…who seems to have struck a deal with the military to avoid court martial and time in jail.
Well dumbass what exactly did Col. West do and what articles of the UCMJ did he violate?
Comment by geoffb on 11/25 @ 11:03 am #
Not defined because the structure of the inequalities was built, from it’s foundation up, brick by brick, both in the North and the South, by a political Party that now strives daily to place the whole of that horrid edifice onto the shoulders of it’s enemies. The Left only defines things when that definition can be used to their advantage. In this case undefined works best for them. A vague miasma that can be thrown at others.
Comment by McGehee on 11/25 @ 11:18 am #
I looked at that graph and I could see why, say, Woodorow Wilson’s people had more private-sector experience than Taft’s, since Republicans had held the White House for more than 40 of the preceding 50 years — but the Carter, Clinton and Obama administrations stand out in more recent times for having so little private-sector experience compared to adjacent Republican administrations.
That really illustrates the trend since the New Deal and Great Society programs, creating a huge permanent federal leviathan.
I think we need to amend the Third Amendment, to prohibit not only the billeting of soldiers in people’s homes, but also the maintenance of a “standing army” of federal bureaucrats in cities and towns all across the country.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 11:52 am #
I guess you are right Pablo, everyone in the military should not re-sign up. Glenn Beck is just ahead of the curve. What could go wrong?
Comment by JD on 11/25 @ 12:00 pm #
Don’t be afraid to be a disingenuous prick.
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 12:03 pm #
We might even ask, what could go right, Joe? For instance, one possible outcome of a relative shortage of volunteers might be higher wages for soldiers. Another possibility is recognition of a need for a better concern for serving member’s welfare and consequently direct action taken to see to it that men like these Seals aren’t treated in this way (unjustly on its face that is) any longer. How would that suit you?
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 12:09 pm #
sdferr, I agree with all the good policies you propose for the military. Better pay, better treatment, etc., etc. I suppose not signing up would force military contracting companies recruit to fill the gap and guys would get their pay raised five or six fold. And total immunity from prosecution to boot. Win Win.
So Glenn Beck must be a genius or something. I guess the military should “go Galt.”
Comment by DarthRove on 11/25 @ 12:09 pm #
Assertion monkeys are my favorite kind.
Comment by Pablo on 11/25 @ 12:13 pm #
If either Beck or I had said that, you might have a point. As things actually are, not so muuch.
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 12:13 pm #
You mistake me Joe. I’m not proposing policy at all. I’m pointing out the predictable likely economic consequences of human behavior, that’s all. That these consequences might happen to align with your or my favored outcomes is an accidental fortuity, merely.
Comment by Mobiltek.ru on 11/25 @ 12:16 pm #
Спс инфу.
Comment by JHo on 11/25 @ 12:25 pm #
Ask him to his face, snotty.
So. When exactly will 50 years of welfare statism finally pay off, snotty? When a year in under o!bama’s feckless reign of secproggidity nearly 35% of young black males are unemployed and there’s a smoldering trillion dollar crater where the economy used to be?
What sickness is it that makes the left abuse these people for all these generations? I do believe it’s racism.
Comment by royf on 11/25 @ 12:33 pm #
Comment by Snowcone on 11/25 @ 11:46 am #
As is typical of wingnut military “heroes,” he proved his heroism abusing defenseless detainees.
Not good enough dumbass, I said what exactly did Col. West do and what articles of the UCMJ did he violate?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/25 @ 12:38 pm #
I just sent $50 to LTC West’s campaign. I’m off the sidelines now.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 12:45 pm #
This is making more and more sense (maybe Pablo and Beck are right):
But we bequeath a parting tip
For sound advice as such men
As come across in transport ship
To polish off the Dutchmen!
If you encounter any Boers
You really must not loot ‘em,
And if you wish to leave these shores
For pity’s sake don’t shoot ‘em!
And if you’d earn a D.S.O.-
Why every British sinner
Should know the proper way to go
Is: ‘Ask the Boer to dinner’!
Comment by geoffb on 11/25 @ 12:54 pm #
Which PCA?
Portland Cement Association, Positive Coaching Alliance, Pacific Coast Academy, Porsche Club of America, Presbyterian Church in America????
Comment by Confederacy of Wiggers on 11/25 @ 2:09 pm #
Do you read Robert Stacy McCain? Go look up his discussion about the guy who said obama’s health care plan was to “Nigger Rig It.” That’s how it works these days.
Comment by Makewi on 11/25 @ 2:24 pm #
First of all, Patrick Lanzo isn’t originally from Paulding County, Ga., and . . .
. . . second, his tasteless sign is not a valid commentary on ObamaCare.
That discussion?
Comment by doubled on 11/25 @ 2:27 pm #
What sickness is it that makes the right worship these freaks?
That’s a good one.
Here is another : What sickness is it that makes the left hate those who stand up against those who worship the stoning of adulterers and gays, the subjugation of women, who worship the idea that church and state are one and the same and further that it is their duty to make everyone else live under their idea of ‘utopia’, the sharia law, who worship blowing themselves up to kill as many innocents as possible to make political statements, etc, etc, etc ad nauseum.
Comment by Danger on 11/25 @ 2:29 pm #
I just spent the last 10 minutes downloading and watching an awe inspiring speach”
In the video a black candidate for office makes the following statement: “The constitution says promote the general welfare, not provide welfare” and when I come back to the page to see what kind of discussion it generated I find an argument over the statement of a talk show host.
WTF guys, did you even bother to watch the video?
Snow troll slithers in and calls the man a criminal and a freak and the only ones to challenge him are royf JHo and Jeffersonian.
Not only have you strayed from the topic of the thread you have forgotten the OPORDER. Now get back on track. That video was worthy of better support.
Comment by Danger on 11/25 @ 2:32 pm #
Hear hear doubled!
Comment by Wigger Rig It on 11/25 @ 2:52 pm #
“That discussion?”
Yeah, like the part where he, oddly, gets into this:
That, my friend, is what race is about these days. As someone like SEK would say, that’s how you find the REAL racist.
Comment by McGehee on 11/25 @ 2:57 pm #
Finding the REAL anything doesn’t work too well when it hides behind a situational pseudonym. I think I’ll Hammer the one that rhyme with “figger.”
Comment by Makewi on 11/25 @ 2:58 pm #
SEK couldn’t find a REAL racist if it was pissing on him. He has surrendered his brain to a cult of stereotype and circular logic.
Comment by B Moe on 11/25 @ 3:02 pm #
Awesome speech. I think “affix bayonets” needs to join “volley downrange” as a pw battle cry.
And I have tried running Wigger Rig It through every combination on BablelFish and it all comes out nonsense.
Comment by Danger on 11/25 @ 3:09 pm #
From the video:
“Right now in the United States of America we have a class warfare going on. You got a producing class and you got an entitlement class”
I didn’t hear anything about racist southeners, perhaps you are in the wrong thread.
Comment by Joe on 11/25 @ 3:20 pm #
Danger–Col. West is a hero and patriot.
Snowcone has the morals of a chimpanzee on xantax. Fortunately for us all he does not have the physical strength and canines of one, nor for that matter, the intellect. Chimps can be clever.
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 6:20 pm #
Racism. h/t Insty.
Comment by Matt on 11/25 @ 6:31 pm #
I think it would be interesting to have an intelligent, genuinely experienced black man on the next republican ticket.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 6:32 pm #
sdferr
funny how when it is pointed out that modern anti-Semitism is centered squarely on the Left, there will be the usual suspects showing up to say “no it aint so!” by way of trying to defend the Left by saying they are really anti-Zionist.
Which is really the same thing. To-may-to, To-mah-to…
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 6:35 pm #
Darleen, here’s what Landsmann said about these clowns claiming they are anti-Zionists:
Comment by geoffb on 11/25 @ 7:02 pm #
I like that term. The “Pol-Pot Left”. The glove fits.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 7:07 pm #
snotty doesn’t understand “Jewish”
but snotty is an anti-Zionist so “Jewish” is just a passing thing anyway as far as it is concerned
Comment by geoffb on 11/25 @ 7:09 pm #
Also came across a headline at CBS news that stopped me in my tracks. Although it is only an opinion piece still, “John Bolton Was Right After All”.
Comment by Hvy Mtl Hntr on 11/25 @ 7:51 pm #
Also came across a headline at CBS news that stopped me in my tracks. Although it is only an opinion piece still, “John Bolton Was Right After All”.
IT HAS BEGUN. MSM turns on Teh One, meltdown of “O” administration by New Years.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/25 @ 8:19 pm #
Nah, we just point out that 90% of Jewish Americans vote for the Democrats every single election.
All that means is they prize their leftism more highly than their Judaism, snowy. Which, for American Jews, is understandable insofar as there’s no existential threat to them, at least not right now. It in no way refutes the truth that anti-semitism is rife amongst the Left today.
Comment by sdferr on 11/25 @ 8:28 pm #
“…the truth that anti-semitism is rife amongst the Left today.”
I think J-Street is on a self-impelled mission to prove it to them Jeffersonian. And making great headway.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/25 @ 9:24 pm #
Colomel West is a fine gentleman, an un-prompted compelling speaker, and a natural leader. He almost won in 2008, and I have no doubt that he’ll beat Klein in 2010. We need nore good folks like him to come forward and help lead this nation; and give the voters the resolve to toss out the current corrupt crew…
Comment by cynn on 11/25 @ 9:30 pm #
JHo: I am unfamiliar with Col. West. Thanks for the info. I will keep my eye on him. He’s certainly clean and articulate. And he likes bayonettes. And probably those fancy french swords with ping-pong balls on them. And also catapults and shivs. Just kidding; excitable guy, he has some good points.
Comment by David R. Block on 11/25 @ 9:32 pm #
91. I’m sure Obama would like to have that.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 9:34 pm #
Of course, snotty would never listen to an actual, practicing, observant Jew.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/25 @ 9:45 pm #
Jeffy comes through wit the “No true Scotsman” tale.
Uh, no. OTS isn’t a one-size-fits-all refutation.
Comment by cynn on 11/25 @ 9:50 pm #
How did this go from a discussion on race to the Jewish Question? Is there a commercial tie-in I don’t know about?
Comment by JD on 11/25 @ 9:57 pm #
Snowcone hates him some Jooooooooooooooos. Almost as much as alphie/snotnose hates the US of A and the military.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 10:04 pm #
see, snotty, you dismiss Prager because he’s a religious Jew.
You’re not interested in Jews, you’re a proud anti-Zionist.
Comment by cynn on 11/25 @ 10:04 pm #
Apparently, Jewish is a race and is therefore appropriately protected.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 10:05 pm #
uh, cynn? Jewish isn’t just a religion.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 10:06 pm #
cynn
Jewish is a religion, a culture and an ethnicity. Pretty unique, but there you have it.
One can be an atheist Jew.
Comment by Rusty on 11/25 @ 10:06 pm #
98.Comment by Snowcone on 11/25 @ 9:47 pm #
Of course, snotty would never listen to an actual, practicing, observant Jew.
I’m always willing to listen, Darleen, but I can’t take someone like Prager seriously.
That’s OK nobody takes you seriously. meshuganah goyim.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 10:12 pm #
Comment by cynn on 11/25 @ 10:13 pm #
OK. Jewish is a cultural identity. Hebrew is a language. Israel is a political entity. Yiddish is a borough in New York. Got it.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 10:27 pm #
GGW
Because Jew is more than ethnicity. Rejecting one of the three criteria doesn’t make one a non-Jew, but it still doesn’t make one a full Jew.
Comment by Jew'Fro Power on 11/25 @ 10:28 pm #
“But if this theory were valid, the Orthodox would be the most liberal sector of the Jewish community. After all, it is they who are most familiar with the Jewish religious tradition and who shape their lives around its commandments.”
Is this what Reform jews think? Or is this what some right wing shiksa thinks? Why just simply cede authenticity to the Orthodox? Because it is convenient? Because it lines up with our own ideas of “conservative” being a more authentic representation of tradition? Even if it clearly is a minority view of that tradition?
Comment by Dennis the Mensch on 11/25 @ 10:31 pm #
“Because Jew is more than ethnicity. Rejecting one of the three criteria doesn’t make one a non-Jew, but it still doesn’t make one a full Jew.”
One thing jews do love from their shiksas is being told who is full Jew and who is not — who counts and who doesnt. Specially when told from the point of view of how that lends authenticity to the goy’s politics.
Comment by Zombie Hitler on 11/25 @ 10:36 pm #
I like the cut of your jib, snowcone. You are using all of my tactics. Bravo young man.
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 10:41 pm #
Geez, wonder who the Judenhass troll is piddling on the Magen David?
Comment by Darleen on 11/25 @ 10:44 pm #
oh come on, snotty, Prager is far and away more educated and published and accomplished as a university teacher than your Savior Barry but you dismiss him as a “moron”. It’s cause he’s a Jew. I understand. You’ve never been particularly clever in covering your anti-:::ahem:::Zionism.
Comment by Larry Gatlin on 11/25 @ 10:53 pm #
don’t go slamming Mogen David. I wrote a nice song about that. Made my career.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/25 @ 11:26 pm #
Prager is far and away more educated and published and accomplished as a university teacher than your Savior Barry
Haha Darleen, remember this Prager classic piece of brilliance?
When a Woman Isn’t in the Mood:
http://townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2008/12/23/when_a_woman_isnt_in_the_mood_part_i
Move over Einstein…
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/25 @ 11:34 pm #
I’m having trouble with the logic, here. Snowcone is clearly a dishonest little twit; anyone with an IQ larger than that of a hamster can see that. Why does anyone care what an idiot thinks about…well, anything?
Snowcone isn’t here to converse; it’s here to annoy. Why let it have what it wants?
Comment by Zombie Hitler on 11/25 @ 11:41 pm #
Snowcone serves a purpose. He just doesn’t know it.
Comment by Darleen on 11/26 @ 12:14 am #
snotty
You don’t know Prager or listen to him so why should I expect you actually READ his articles?
He’s a Jew and therefore you dismiss him. Actually, that you can’t stand him is actually a great recommendation for everyone else to read him.
Comment by royf on 11/26 @ 5:44 am #
Hey you scumbag that goes by the stupid ass name of snowcone, earlier on this thread you made accusations about LTC West. You are a liar everyone here knows that, you also are a insignificant jelly spined little coward. You haven’t even a tiny speck of the courage and principle of LTC West. Either support your fucking lies or shut the fuck up you little scumbag.
Comment by Danger on 11/26 @ 6:48 am #
124. Comment by royf on 11/26 @ 5:44 am #
Amen brother
Comment by Rusty on 11/26 @ 7:38 am #
#121
Bird strike test dummy? Crack tester? The best impersonation of an element? Help me here.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/26 @ 10:04 am #
I know that some tasty frozen treat has failed to grasp that point, all right.
Comment by Tha OG Zionist on 11/27 @ 2:42 pm #
“It’s cause he’s a Jew. I understand. ”
That explains the penchant for Chomsky and Brandeis