I’m with The Anchoress — Dear God, please don’t let Obama channel his inner Chamberlain.
Steve Schippert over at Threats Watch keeps an eye on all those places I refer to as “guy sites” (well, they never have recipes) and he writes:
It comes to our attention that the MEMRI Blog highlights an article from the Saudi _al-Watan_ in Arabic that – according to an Afghan source – the United States is talking to the Taliban seeking to trade control of 5 provinces in exchange for the cessation of attacks on US bases. MEMRI summarizes:An Afghan source in Kabul reports that U.S. Ambassador in Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry is holding secret talks with Taliban elements headed by the movement’s foreign minister, Ahmad Mutawakil, at a secret location in Kabul. According to the source, the U.S. has offered the Taliban control of the Kandahar, Helmand, Oruzgan, Kunar and Nuristan provinces in return for a halt to the Taliban missile attacks on U.S. bases.
Kunar province borders the Khyber Pass region where the majority of US and NATO supplies pass enroute from Pakistan. And the4 remaining four provinces constitute fully the southern 25% of Afghanistan’s territory.
This, if true, is a disturbing development.
I’m speechless. Now I know why Barry won’t release his college transcripts…. he flunked history.
h/t Little Miss Attila via email
Comment by JD on 11/23 @ 6:56 pm #
Good Allah.
That should last about as long as one of the “peace accords” the terrorists agree to with Israel.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/23 @ 7:00 pm #
Why is this a bad thing?
We made plenty of deals with the bad guys in Iraq during the surge.
They’ll stay “peaceful” just as long as they continue to receive millions of American tax dollars.
Comment by newrouter on 11/23 @ 7:05 pm #
it all seems intentional but that maybe a jeff g thing
Comment by Joe on 11/23 @ 7:05 pm #
Everyone’s worse fears come true. Fuck us all.
Comment by JD on 11/23 @ 7:07 pm #
That alphie does not know why this is brain-poundingly estupido is a SHOCKA.
Comment by newrouter on 11/23 @ 7:07 pm #
“They’ll stay “peaceful” just as long as they continue to receive millions of American tax dollars.”
i agree cut the egyptians off of our chinese money
Comment by sdferr on 11/23 @ 7:08 pm #
Roggio quoting Dawn, which, well I doubt they meant to be funny:
Comment by SBP on 11/23 @ 7:11 pm #
This used to be called Danegeld.
Didn’t work then, either.
Comment by sdferr on 11/23 @ 7:19 pm #
Roggio himself, from further down the post for those who don’t click over:
This looks to be a non-story sort of story from Roggio’s pov.
Comment by Joe on 11/23 @ 7:22 pm #
No wonder he hates Churchill, he was Neville Chamberlain in his past life.
Fuck, Dharma is such a bitch.
Comment by JD on 11/23 @ 7:29 pm #
Mullah Anus is priceless.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/23 @ 7:32 pm #
i agree cut the egyptians off of our chinese money
My favorite group we’re bribing in Iraq is…Hamas.
Comment by SBP on 11/23 @ 7:32 pm #
Yeah, that’s right up there with that MILF group in the Philippines.
Comment by B Moe on 11/23 @ 7:36 pm #
It will be so much easier for them to re-enact the heroic Fall of Saigon if all our supply lines are cut off.
Treacherous fucking bastards.
Comment by B Moe on 11/23 @ 7:37 pm #
I don’t doubt that a bit, you ignorant fuck.
Comment by royf on 11/23 @ 7:41 pm #
What I love about the fascist/progressive thought process is that when something the USA does can be twisted to reflect badly on the Country they are more than willing to recognize that basicly all islamic terror groups are related. But when it comes to holding the islamist accountable for their atrocities they are all stand alone groups.
Comment by newrouter on 11/23 @ 7:50 pm #
“My favorite group we’re bribing in Iraq is…Hamas”
cite source loser
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/23 @ 8:03 pm #
Personally, I am loathe to consider the terrible and lasting effects this would have on US foreign policy in that region and elsewhere. I heard this earlier this morning and must point out that it is as yet unconfirmed; it could simply be very public “pushback” against Petraeus’, McChrystal’s, and Gates’ calls for more troops, or laying the groundwork for Obama to send only token reinforcements.
Like I said, take a breath, say some prayers, and realize that this is unconfirmed…
But, I have noticed lately thye Obama administrations adoption of the Clintonia trial balloon technique of deciding courses of action when they are frozen in political indecision…
I’m hoping this is only another one of those…
Comment by Swen Swenson on 11/23 @ 8:03 pm #
“Peace in our time!”
[And screw all the little brown people in those five provinces who will be slaughtered a collaborators, they never appreciated my splendiferousness anyway.]
Comment by Swen Swenson on 11/23 @ 8:05 pm #
[Sigh] Sometimes I can’t find my “s” with both hands..
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Comment by geoffb on 11/23 @ 8:34 pm #
Hey 52.
The blood never really washes away. Murderous betrayal of those who trust you is a permanent stain. The Devil even froze a special place in Hell for that one.
Comment by JD on 11/23 @ 8:42 pm #
Amen, geoffb
Comment by newrouter on 11/23 @ 8:45 pm #
snowcone what currency should i wear
Comment by SBP on 11/23 @ 8:47 pm #
SFAG has apparently lost the ability to construct an English sentence now.
Comment by newrouter on 11/23 @ 8:48 pm #
“From an afghan source” = Viagra In Manchester Uk
Comment by geoffb on 11/23 @ 8:55 pm #
I pray Bob Reed is correct about the “trial balloon”.
Comment by Roland THTG on 11/23 @ 9:11 pm #
Trial balloon or no, the One True Muppet wants to bail.
Makes his muzzie buddys nervous having us over there dispatching jihaddis off to the big casbah in the sky.
This will do nothing more than empower Iran. Which probably leaves it to the Juice to take care of bidniz, which then leads to WWIII thru V.
Change!
Comment by SDN on 11/23 @ 10:08 pm #
Betraying people to slavemasters: it’s what Copperheads do.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/23 @ 10:11 pm #
Dipshit isn’t pushing this into the holidays for a good brave and true American reason.
Comment by Lazarus Long on 11/23 @ 10:18 pm #
“Comment by JD on 11/23 @ 7:29 pm #
Mullah Anus is priceless.”
He’s snowcone’s favorite, for sure.
Comment by Joe on 11/23 @ 10:52 pm #
Can we drop vicious cougars on Afghanistan to change the dynamic?
Comment by Joe on 11/23 @ 10:53 pm #
As far as I am concerned, they are all Mullah Anus.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/23 @ 10:56 pm #
That actually makes me inclined to think she’s maybe not wholly contemptible. Too bad she’s so dumb.
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Comment by -Ed. on 11/23 @ 11:25 pm #
What could go wrong? The world loves us now.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/23 @ 11:51 pm #
I don’t think God has our back on this one.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 12:04 am #
I don’t think God has our back on this one.
Then he’s indifferent…or on the Taliban’s side.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/24 @ 12:11 am #
Not at all. Allah hates Muslims. That’s apparent from the conditions that he makes them live in, that he’s made them simultaneously aggressive and completely unable to win a modern war. Some few find favor somehow, and get to escape, but by and large, Allah just hates those people.
And President Obama is the instrument of Allah. By giving him a yellow streak, and gelatin for vertebrae, He ensures that the torture continues. Worse yet for the hope held out that we might have helped them change their circumstances.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 12:13 am #
Not at all. Allah hates Muslims. That’s apparent from the conditions that he makes them live in
And he must hate Christians and Jews seeing how many of them he allows to die slow, painful deaths.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/24 @ 12:19 am #
That’s just life. You can’t expect to be given everythign you kn…. Sorry. Forgot who I was talking to.
Comment by JD on 11/24 @ 12:23 am #
Good Allah, this one is vile.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 12:26 am #
That’s just life.
So, having to live in places like this mans god hates you:
http://thevinylvillage.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dubai.jpg
Lying around becoming a drug addict whilst cancer eats away your organs is “just life.”
Wingnuts are wacky folks.
Comment by JD on 11/24 @ 12:47 am #
What a fucking nozzle of douche, with all due apologies to actual douchenozzles. Alphie is fighting for its place as a Massengill heir.
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Comment by Silver Whistle on 11/24 @ 2:05 am #
Oh great, now we’ve got President Elphinstone. This will not end well.
Comment by MikeT on 11/24 @ 2:37 am #
The war on Osama bin Laden was lost by a previous president. Blame Obama, you’ll feel better.
Comment by Carin on 11/24 @ 4:48 am #
MikeT, keep fucking that chicken.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 11/24 @ 5:03 am #
With a newly discovered penchant for cheese, et voilà! I give you Le Président.
Comment by Carin on 11/24 @ 5:35 am #
Afghanistan is the good
warsurrender.Comment by Carin on 11/24 @ 5:36 am #
Discussing theology with snowcow is about as useless as discussing anything with it.
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/24 @ 6:00 am #
The war on Osama bin Laden was lost by a previous president.
Actually, that’s how I see Obama too. A helpless victim, unable to effect change in the world. Basically a little boy who has a gift for singing, uses his Blackberry like a pacifier, and does what his Wookie mom says.
Comment by Roland THTG on 11/24 @ 6:21 am #
The war on Osama bin Laden was lost by a previous president.
Wow, it’s true!
Comment by TheGeezer on 11/24 @ 7:19 am #
More importantly, WHEN WILL THE CONFLAGRATION BEGIN BETWEEN ISRAEL AND IRAN?
I have to get that out of my system occasionally, especially when I read stuff like this.
Comment by EJ D on 11/24 @ 7:54 am #
So, having to live in places like this mans god hates you:
lol, gotta love pocket book theology.
Does being tortured and nailed on a cross mean God hates you?
Does being eaten by lions mean God hates you?
When God says that you may have a rough life if you choose to follow him, does that mean he hates his followers?
You’re an idiot snotrag.
Actually, that’s how I see Obama too. A helpless victim, unable to effect change in the world. Basically a little boy who has a gift for singing, uses his Blackberry like a pacifier, and does what his Wookie mom says.
this
Obama promised to fix all of BusHitler’s mistakes and bring us a better world. Turns out all he’s really good at is telling us how bad BusHitler was.
Fixing stuff? Not so much.
Comment by LTC John on 11/24 @ 8:32 am #
I don’t really put much stock in the veracity of this story. Anything that comes off MEMRI is two strikes down in the count already…and citing Saudi press… “heh” one might say.
I do think the TTP’s time to go has come, BTW.
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/24 @ 9:23 am #
How can Obama be Chamberlain and Hitler at the same time?
“I had never before heard him speak with such passion for peace nor so movingly and persuasively. Several times during his two-hour-long oration I found myself being carried away… What could be more reasonable — and convincing — than these words, spoken, I noted, in his beautifully modulated, low, resonant voice, his face, his eyes, his frown, his manner exuding sincerity as he recalled the history of the follies of warring mankind:
‘The blood shed on the European Continent in the course of the last three hundred years bears no proportion to the national results achieved. In the end France has remained France, Germany Germany, Poland Poland, and Italy Italy…The shedding of rivers of blood has not substantially altered their fundamental characters. If these nations had applied merely a fraction of their sacrifices to wiser purposes the success would certainly have been greater and more permanent.’
Comment by Mr. W on 11/24 @ 9:24 am #
IMHO the facts point to God being quite displeased with the leftists.
If it were not so, then why has He sent Obama to destroy them?
When god wants to destroy a political party, He gives them exactly what they want…
Comment by Mr. W on 11/24 @ 9:30 am #
…and man, Snowcone, did you guys ever want you some Obama in the worst way.
So grab some popcorn and watch as the Four Horsemen of the Poli-sci apocalypse, Reid, Pelosi, the Compliant Media, and Obama, lay waste to International Socialism by loving it to death.
Comment by sdferr on 11/24 @ 9:39 am #
So the announcement of a date of announcement has come. Finally, right? Tuesday Dec 1. Slightly more than three months it will have taken to make a decision that had been understood to be in the offing more than a year ago, more than two years ago were we to go by Obama’s own presidential campaign rhetoric, not to say position. Disgraceful can hardly sum the man.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/24 @ 9:40 am #
Under the potentially “Never mind!” category:
McClatchy is reporting that the decision was made last night to send 34,000 additional troops to Afghanistan starting early next year. Of concern is the expressed demand for “off ramps” suggesting an exit strategy if things don’t work out to the president’s liking. Ed Morrissy points out that any COIN strategy is dependent upon the locals believing that we’ll be there to protect them over a period of time. Such “off ramps” may not inspire that kind of confidence in our commitment.
We’ll see …
Comment by BJTexs on 11/24 @ 9:41 am #
Baghdad Alphie must be heartbroken at this news.
Comment by sdferr on 11/24 @ 9:43 am #
“…amid opposition by some Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury and whether Afghanistan has become a quagmire…”
Just laying down their markers, eh? So we all know where they sta-……. ‘er, make that, don’t stand.
Comment by sdferr on 11/24 @ 9:48 am #
Characteristic Morrissey: “…The increase in troops is a good decision, but the off-ramps almost completely undermine it.”
No, Ed, the meager increase in troops is a bad decision, a half-hearted and eager to lose decision. A good decision would have given McChrystal every man he asked for and more if need be and logistics would permit.
Comment by Joe on 11/24 @ 9:52 am #
So the Nuremburg Nazi trials were good and Bush Military Tribunals were bad, bad, bad?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 9:53 am #
the meager increase in troops is a bad decision, a half-hearted and eager to lose decision
As long as we’re continuing to cut and run from Iraq it doesn’t really matter what we do in Afghanistan over the next couple of years.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/24 @ 9:55 am #
I see your point, sdferr, and I hope that LTC John and RTO Trainer will stop by to give their takes on this. I do think Ed raised a good point with the so-called “off ramps” though.
Why is this administration so hyped up about “political progress” in Afghanistan? Either there is a compelling national security issue or their isn’t. If so, then political progress be damned. I’m of the opinion that allowing the Taliban to reestablish themselves in Afghanistan would be the height of dishonor (they make those psychotic thugs in Burma look like Swedish socialists) and bad anti terrorism strategy. Any “solution” has to begin and end with a plan to eventually eliminate Afghanistan as a haven for terrorists in conjunction with continued support to Pakistan for the purpose of limiting havens in Waziristan.
I’m at a loss to conjure up a valid explanation as to why we are safer as a country if Afghanistan is abandoned or not prosecuted as fully as it should.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/24 @ 9:56 am #
I’m with LTC John, Baghdad alphie’s stream of obtuse has outlived it’s fantastical usefulness. Burn him.
Comment by sdferr on 11/24 @ 10:00 am #
Jules Crittenden, being kinder than he might to Obama, in an attempt to give him that last possible benefit of the doubt:
Comment by geoffb on 11/24 @ 10:20 am #
By what they will fund and what they don’t you will know both their friends and their enemies.
Comment by geoffb on 11/24 @ 10:24 am #
Obama, he supports the Afghan campaign 1000%.
Comment by EJ D on 11/24 @ 10:27 am #
amid opposition by some Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury
That’s a joke, right?
Comment by Silver Whistle on 11/24 @ 10:32 am #
I’m with LTC John, Baghdad alphie’s stream of obtuse has outlived it’s fantastical usefulness. Burn him.
Burn him, every IP address he’s ever used, the horse he rode in on, and anyone who looks like him. His drool is a slip hazard.
Comment by sdferr on 11/24 @ 10:39 am #
Since I’ve got the fool trollhammered I’m left to wonder what the heck he’s said that’s got you all so riled up? Ordinarily you just point and laugh. Or deride and piss on it. Whatever it may have been, chances still are it isn’t worthy of your attention.
Comment by Lazarus Long on 11/24 @ 11:08 am #
Oh, snotspill!!!!!
Your idol is going down, baby,:
“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15. This is the lowest Approval Index rating yet measured for President Obama.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
The empty suit is revealed for what he is, and the nation is beginning to see it.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
Oh, snotty, you puling lackwit.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 11:33 am #
Your idol is going down, baby,:
Obama’s approval among the people who voted for him is over 90%, Lazzie.
It doesn’t really matter what the yokels and rubes think of him.
Comment by Obama's Snazzy Golden Cock on 11/24 @ 11:40 am #
Spit me out snowcone! People want to hear what a douche-sandwich sounds like!
Comment by Mr. W on 11/24 @ 11:51 am #
Snowcone,
So where have all the pro-Obama bumper stickers gone?
90 percent? Rasmussen and the rest of the pollsters would take issue with that.
Comment by Mr. W on 11/24 @ 11:54 am #
Snowcone,
90 percent? Do they have rainbow colored unicorns in your world?
When even Arianna gets a whiff of that fail stench, you ain’t at 90 percent…
Comment by happyfeet on 11/24 @ 11:57 am #
Our little president man is such an unbelievable dick I can’t hardly believe it how much of a dick our little president man is.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 11:59 am #
It’s not natural for you losers to be so shrill just months into Obama’s 8 year reign.
Why don’t you channel all that crazy hatred into forming a third party?
Beck/Palin 2012!
Comment by Snowcone's Wonder Woman Underoos on 11/24 @ 12:01 pm #
Change me, I’m so so soiled.
Comment by Mr. W on 11/24 @ 12:04 pm #
I live in DC (also known as the land of the over-paid government employee) and even here, based on a sophisticated analysis of bumper stickers that meets or exceeds the standards of leading Climate scientists, Obama’s base is now pretty much down to old hippies in Volvos.
Comment by Mr. W on 11/24 @ 12:20 pm #
Go easy on Snowcone, friends. Even he and his cohort can see the staggering lack of judgement that has defined the Obama administration thus far.
I work with a large number of black leftists, which made for a lively election as they bought the Hopenchange at wholesale; a great number of them have approached me since the election to express their regret that I seem to have been proved right when I called him an empty suit.
These are decidedly not Protein Wisdom readers, they are the true-believers, and even they realize what an expensive joke this administration is turning out to be.
So don’t begrudge Snowcone his bile and anger. At what he thought was the beginning of a golden age of communist ascendancy, he now must face the realization that what seemed to be the vehicle for that communist ascedancy (O!) is instead fueling a reaffirmation Constitutional principles by a majority of the Ameriacn people.
O!Damn!
Comment by Mr. W on 11/24 @ 12:30 pm #
Obama is a loser.
Nobody likes a loser.
Especially the people that thought they backed a winner.
They will be the ones who hate him the most.
Because then they have to share the loss.
Snowcone, et al…
Comment by Darleen on 11/24 @ 12:38 pm #
Obama’s approval among the people who voted for him is over 90% 90% of 52% is still under 50%.
That’s a good thing? Even with the 24/7 fellating of Obama in the Lamestream Press?
oh.my.
Comment by Lazarus Long on 11/24 @ 1:02 pm #
“Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 11:33 am #
Your idol is going down, baby,:
Obama’s approval among the people who voted for him is over 90%, Lazzie.
It doesn’t really matter what the yokels and rubes think of him.”
As an outsider, what do you think of the human race?
Comment by Squid on 11/24 @ 1:05 pm #
And how much of that 90% is made up of guys who’ll support and vote for anyone who gives them a carton of cigarettes and drives them from the highway underpass to the polling place?
(What’s never said is that these stalwart supporters never get a ride back to their cardboard box. Turns out that once they’ve walked into the polling place, the community organizers have no further use for them.)
Comment by Lazarus Long on 11/24 @ 1:05 pm #
And I find it amusing to have an inbred, snaggle-toothed, mouth-breathing neanderthal troglodyte calling someone, anyone, “rube”.
High-larious.
Comment by Lazarus Long on 11/24 @ 1:06 pm #
“…these stalwart supporters never get a ride back to their cardboard box. Turns out that once they’ve walked into the polling place, the community organizers have no further use for them.”
I wonder how many times that has happened to snotspill.
Comment by Mr. W on 11/24 @ 1:08 pm #
Darleen,
Recent reporting indicates that the press may be getting tired of doing all the work.
Comment by LTC John on 11/24 @ 1:44 pm #
“Off ramps” the worst of the Iraqi “benchmarks” all over again. One would almost think the POTUS wants to appear hesitant and indecisive 6 months down the road.
I’m going to wait and see what the Big Guy at CENTCOM does with this…
Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 1:49 pm #
That’s a good thing?
It’s neither here nor there until he’s up for re-election in another 3 years.
Comment by Snowcone's miniscule genitalia on 11/24 @ 1:53 pm #
But an election won’t matter since my idol who makes me move in the pants of the douche I’m attached to will “reign” on! Come here Obama! I wuv you! Make me engorge!
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 11/24 @ 2:02 pm #
I seem to remember Snowcone crowing about the 3.5% GDP growth rate in Q3.
Comment by Matt on 11/24 @ 2:02 pm #
Err 90% of the people who voted for him ? So he’s lost 10% ? After less than a year in office. Really ? I can’t imagine that’s a good statistic. Perhaps this was not the hope and change they were looking for.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 2:34 pm #
Only in that it marked the end of the Republican’s recession, Mark.
I’ll crow when America’s economy grows at a rate close to the Chinese economic growth rate.
Comment by Snowcone's Vagina on 11/24 @ 2:36 pm #
Hmmm…the douche that I’m a hole in acts like he knows economics or that it matters to him. Does the slimy little douche that I am attached to even have a job?
Comment by B Moe on 11/24 @ 2:39 pm #
What does 52% minus 10% of 52% leave, Snowcone?
This should be a hoot.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 11/24 @ 2:49 pm #
Snowcone@99, I see that you didn’t bother to follow the link. Or read it if you did.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/24 @ 3:04 pm #
I’m aware last quarter’s growth was revised down a bit, Mark.
Nothing to worry about, it happens almost every quarter.
Comment by B Moe on 11/24 @ 4:39 pm #
Let me try it another way, what is 90% of 52%?
Comment by LTC John on 11/24 @ 8:52 pm #
B Moe, waiting for the “Math is hard” “Shopping is fun!” response, eh?
Honestly, so many of these threads have gone downhill with the TTP that I end up skimmming more than reading lately.
Comment by McGehee on 11/25 @ 7:11 am #
46.8%
But when a Democrat receives that proportion of the vote and wins, it’s still a landslide. See 1992, Bill Clinton and his 43% “mandate for change.”
Comment by Rusty on 11/25 @ 7:15 am #
#104
Moe. It’s not fair to ask what he is obviously incapable of doing. C’mon. There are enough dummies in the world already without encouraging this one.