James Delingpole has a summary at the Telegraph.
If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW.
When you read some of those files – including 1079 emails and 72 documents – you realise just why the boffins at Hadley CRU might have preferred to keep them confidential.
More: Investigate Magazine. (PDF)
Comment by happyfeet on 11/20 @ 10:01 am #
That hacker is a heroic person the like of which seems to be very rare in our little country these days.
Comment by ThomasD on 11/20 @ 10:13 am #
And, perhaps most reprehensibly, a long series of communications discussing how best to squeeze dissenting scientists out of the peer review process.
Behold the little Eichmanns of the scientific community.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/20 @ 10:13 am #
I love the taste of schadenfreude in the morning…It smells like…the end of the AGW connivance and man/bear/pig’s Waterloo…
It doesn’t get any better than this. And, what do you want to bet that any time this prooof is mentioned, enviro-nazi’s will go off on the eeeeevollls of “hacking” into their system as opposed to admitting any fraud or intent of the same…
Comment by Joe on 11/20 @ 10:14 am #
Are you telling me that these climate change folks lie?
This never gets old.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 10:19 am #
Alright. This made me laugh. Schadenfreude tastes great for breakfast.
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/20 @ 10:27 am #
I feel dirty after reading that. I hope they strap those mf’s to a tanning bed.
Comment by LTC John on 11/20 @ 10:30 am #
Somewheres Down Under, Tim Blair and Andrew Bolt are smiling.
Me too (but up here in America as opposed to down in Oz).
One reaction I hope to see is that of, in the words of happyfeet, the hoochie from the Weather Channel (Heidi Cullen) who wanted the AMS Seal of Approval removed from any TV weather person who dared deny AGW.
Or David Roberts, last seen on “The Climate Code” demanding Nuremburg type trials for “Global Warming deniers”.
Comment by Raving Moonbats R Us on 11/20 @ 10:30 am #
It’s all lies! Lies, I tell you. AGW is real and we’re all doomed! Unless we stop generating CO2 yesterday, all the animals and insects and plants will die!
I guess some people will die too, so it isn’t all bad, but still… .
Besides, it was for your own good. You’re all too stupid and clingy with your guns and religion to understand Teh Truth! So what if we had to lie a little?
Anyway, only FauxNewz will report this stuff. We otherwise own the MSM. So only you wingers will ever see it.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/20 @ 10:32 am #
If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW.
More sage investment advise from the right-wing fanatics who told you to sit out the Dow’s recent 50% rise.
Comment by Joe on 11/20 @ 10:33 am #
I like spreading climate change lies on my toast in the morning. It tastes delicious.
Comment by Joe on 11/20 @ 10:34 am #
I like sprinkling climate change lies on snowcones–Hey Look Global Warming, my icee is melting!
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/20 @ 10:39 am #
If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW.
Oh, crap. Where’s Semencleo going to buy the windmill power adapter for his lentil seed incubator?
Comment by mcgruder on 11/20 @ 10:40 am #
I’m thinking some of this might be BS. It is too good to be true.
I’ts all too easy and highly-scripted with the only element that’s missing is a Snidely Whiplash chuckling in an e-mail, “It’s working! My fiendish plan is working!”
I am an AGW skeptic, of an increasingly avowed nature, but something might be off here. I counsel caution.
Comment by JHo on 11/20 @ 10:41 am #
Shall we let snowy’s stuff stand for today? I’m thinking the entertainment value could be high, adding even more deliciousness.
Fanatic brownies. Yummm!
Comment by JHo on 11/20 @ 10:43 am #
It looks real, mcgruder.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/20 @ 10:46 am #
Shall we let snowy’s stuff stand for today?
Um, in England, James Delingpole is considered something of a loon even by conservatives, JHo.
Comment by Carin on 11/20 @ 10:46 am #
I say we let snowy spew. It should be cathartic for it.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/20 @ 10:46 am #
I don’t know, mcgruder. the head of the institution has acknowledged the hack and the authenticity of the E-Mails. As to whether any of the individual E-Mails were altered or maid up … I guess we’ll see.
Comment by JHo on 11/20 @ 10:48 am #
I look forward to snotty fisking Delingpole. Republicans are considered loons in the progressive US, snotty.
Comment by Carin on 11/20 @ 10:48 am #
The website he references “Watts us with that” isn’t loony, Snowy. But I understand this might be stressful news for you.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/20 @ 10:49 am #
Baghdad Alphie: “Come now! You people missed the stock market, which has nothing to do with AGW but is a good thing to poke with a stick. AGW is real and I say so and, no, those bomb craters in my basement are cutting edge new wave decorating ideas called “War Porn Feng Shui!”
Comment by Pablo on 11/20 @ 10:51 am #
This is like living through the weirdest movie ever. Scroll down the front page of pw, and ask yourself how much of this reality (and attempts to approximate such) you’d have thought remotely plausible 15 years ago.
We need an intermission.
Comment by mcgruder on 11/20 @ 10:52 am #
BJT and JHO,
I hear and respect you. This wouldnt be the first time I’m wrong, Lord knows.
Let me just say this: I have seen dozens–and I do mean north of 12—legal cases launched with some truly titillating and apparently damning E-mail and electronic discovery–only to see an easy 50% sink like the proverbial lead zeppelin. What seems balls out damning often has some more context that was not disclosed or not revealed. Full disclosure: I have often written glowingly of these things, only to be proved less than judicious later. I have learned the hard way is what i am trying to say.
I agree it LOOKS bad. We shall see. I may well be wrong here.
Comment by Pablo on 11/20 @ 10:54 am #
Ah, and just in time to validate my weird movie allegory, in walks the ball-gagged gimp.
Comment by mcgruder on 11/20 @ 10:55 am #
In the future, people will study Snocone’s attempt to redirect this into a stock market thread and be greatly amused. Also, people in the present will laugh too.
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/20 @ 10:56 am #
I’m thinking some of this might be BS. It is too good to be true.
I worked among university “scientists” for 20 years and this sounds exactly like the kind of crap they’d do. Even relatively well-informed people don’t realize how much science has been twisted to fit social agendas. Have a talk with Larry Summers if you don’t believe me.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 10:58 am #
This would be even more fun if SemenKKKleo were here to talk about her windmill, and regale us with stories about her PRE-traumatic stress disorder.
Comment by JHo on 11/20 @ 11:00 am #
mcgruder, assuming this is genuine data, and assuming it was illegally obtained, and without knowing law — international, British, or otherwise — do you have any idea how this would stand up to scrutiny?
The jacked US press notwithstanding, of course.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/20 @ 11:00 am #
mcgruder: I think you are being prudent and it doesn’t hurt to continue to follow the story and see how it plays out. If it turns out that there is information withheld that would present a different picture then we should expect the outed to scream like toy denied two year olds. Absent of that (perhaps a forlorn hope that the issue will magically drift away) we’ll know soon enough.
Comment by sdferr on 11/20 @ 11:05 am #
Journalism 101: Flunking, an elementary how-to.
Comment by cranky-d on 11/20 @ 11:06 am #
You do know that to summon a demon you speak its name, right. It might be the same for trolls.
Comment by cranky-d on 11/20 @ 11:06 am #
Feel free to add a “?” in the appropriate place.
Comment by cranky-d on 11/20 @ 11:13 am #
I’m waiting to see what the official spin on this will be. I expect the trolls will let it be known through their talking points.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/20 @ 11:15 am #
I second tha call for an intermission Pablo; but funny thing is Obama’s not taking my calls these days…
I can only imagine the scene:
Secretary: Mr. President, you have a call on line 2.
The Won!: Uhh, who, uhh, is it, Mabel..?
Secretary: I’m not sure, sir, but it sounds wingerish to me; he wants to know about Afghanistan, oh and jobs too sir…
The Won!: How can you be sure he’s a winger, Mabel..?
Secretary: Well, sir, he’s…polite.
The Won: Take a message…
Comment by BJTexs on 11/20 @ 11:27 am #
Bob: That’s great! Now if JD happened to call …
Secretary: Um … sir? you have an … ah … interesting call in line 3.
The Won: Uh Uh Mabel? What do you, uh, mean by, uh, interesting?
Secretary: Well, sir he um … I don’t know if I should say this …
The Won: Just spit it out, uh, Mabel.
Secretary: Well he, uh, asked to speak to … uh … sir?
The Won: What, Mabel!?!?
Secretary: What is a “mendouchious twatwaffle?”
The Won: …
The Won: Call the Secret Service.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/20 @ 11:29 am #
Unless we stop generating CO2 yesterday, all the animals and insects and plants will die!
I suspect even the most strident AGW booster knows that to be false, and that it’s also impossible to stop generating CO2. They don’t want that…what they want is political control over the generation of CO2, something very different, with benefits accruing to a certain political class.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 11:37 am #
BJ – I am pretty sure that it is spelled mendoucheous ;-). And I am pretty sure they are not taking my calls.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 11:41 am #
I just had a piece of pie, and this hole-in-the-wall place. They claim that their pies are a foot tall with the merengue (sp?) And I’ll be damned if it wasn’t. I bought a whole pie to take home.
Comment by SBP on 11/20 @ 11:47 am #
I’ve still got NippleNut ‘Hammered. Has he called it a One. Day. Story yet?
There’s much, much more to this than the bits that were quoted in the Torygraph. If this proves to be legit, I expect to see some perp walks before it’s over.
Comment by Matt on 11/20 @ 11:53 am #
Al Gore lied, economies died.
Comment by Matt on 11/20 @ 12:01 pm #
My guess is this institute gets thrown under the bus. “Maybe THEY were overzealous but AGW is REAL damn it. Now cut me a check.”
Comment by mcgruder on 11/20 @ 12:09 pm #
JHo, I have been pondering this as well.
The press has obviously fallen hook-line-sinker for the AGW camp’s line, but this does change the playing field. My guess is that it gets picked up bit-by-bit. It doesnt appear to do much credit to the AGW camp.
The media’s cover will be the ‘net….writing about the emails as documents themselves is difficult, given they were clearly stolen (which is all hacking is, pure and simple), but writing about the internet’s take on it, blog v. blog (think rathergate) is the story.
we can also imagine a major blowback for this think-tank. They get carried out.
Comment by Kresh on 11/20 @ 12:12 pm #
Hmm. I’m with McGruder. Caution, until proven authentic. Remember, counter-intelligence is a powerful weapon, and seeing as how they own the media, any mis-steps on our part will only be magnified until even Snowdouche can comprehend that something happened. Not that he’ll understand it, but he’ll know that those reichwingnutterz got all atwitter Dan Rather-style over something.
Let’s be sure it’s real. THEN we’ll stomp their tiny dicks into the dirt.
Comment by No one you know on 11/20 @ 12:14 pm #
I’m thinking that, much the same way a whistleblower is treated when the scandal involves Dems, the focus of this story will be on the hacker and the illegalities of his behavior.
Comment by geoffb on 11/20 @ 12:24 pm #
Several things. I believe the emails have all their header info which should help in verifying them.
The large number of emails would suggest it would be hard to fake them all, however slipping in a few damning fakes would seem possible.
It was mentioned that many of the emails come from US University email accounts and that that may make them subject to FOIA requests. Is this true?
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/20 @ 12:27 pm #
That’s a great dialogue BJT, I can see them sending the Secret Service to JD’s place, and calling for back-up once they get a load of the ma deuce and the concertina wire…
“You men better bring in the APC, I’m getting that Ruby Ridge feeling all over again!”
Comment by SBP on 11/20 @ 12:27 pm #
geoffb, it’s true. As I understand it, there are also some emails in the set that discuss how best to stonewall FOIA requests.
Comment by SBP on 11/20 @ 12:32 pm #
P.S. Can anyone say “RICO”?
Comment by Pablo on 11/20 @ 12:41 pm #
Do we know it’s a hacker? I think that’s an unfounded assumption at this point. Despite CRU’s use of the term “hacked” my impression is that they’ve just been completely blindsided by this and don’t have a clue what happened.
Could be a disgruntled employee/whistleblower. Or it could be like Zoe Lofgren’s cyber-hacking in which a dipshit staffer left classified material available to a file sharing network.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/20 @ 12:44 pm #
And how that data wasn’t really smuggled out in their socks, wingnuts!
Comment by Joe on 11/20 @ 12:46 pm #
sprouts are good.
you sprout barley to make beer malt.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 12:54 pm #
Bob – I cannot wait for the Census people ;-)
Comment by JHo on 11/20 @ 1:01 pm #
Where’d nipply go? I demand my communist manifesto and the left, why it lets us down.
Anyway, I do believe that cow fart bags won’t be an investment opportunity any time soon.
Comment by J."Trashman" Peden on 11/20 @ 1:06 pm #
I am an AGW skeptic, of an increasingly avowed nature, but something might be off here. I counsel caution.
Of course, mcgruder, but how else would a real scientist or a Classical Liberal/fill-in-blank proceed?
I already know that the elite “Climate Scientists” are not doing real Science, and instead are involved in what is no more than a gigantic propaganda op. – so that something like what these files so far seem to contain or might portend at this point must be happening.
But that does not prove that the files are authentic, which I’m pretty sure nearly everyone here knows anyway.
I don’t even know yet if the files are real, were actually hacked, or if what they contain is authentic, critically damning material that goes beyond what the “Climate Scientists” have already authentically demonstrated for anyone who wants to, to see.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/20 @ 1:06 pm #
That’s a whole ‘nother GHG, JHo.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/20 @ 1:08 pm #
“Comment by SBP on 11/20 @ 12:32 pm #
P.S. Can anyone say “RICO”?”
Is there a British equivelant?
Comment by JHo on 11/20 @ 1:12 pm #
There’s got to be something to it all, Slart. Owing to its blinding effect on the unwashed, probably the left hides it.
I’m working on a vast conspiracy theory involving hidden star gates and ancient clicky tumbler thingies that reveal hidden realms of mystery when you dial em in just so. Watery-looking portals too. Anything that self-describes as progressive just has to be all light and joy when you know exactly where to look and precisely how to get there.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/20 @ 1:13 pm #
Watch out for Ra. He’s a BAMF.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 11/20 @ 1:15 pm #
And how that data wasn’t really smuggled out in their socks, wingnuts!
HAH!
Comment by SBP on 11/20 @ 1:18 pm #
#56 Many of the people mentioned in these emails are U.S. based, N.O.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 11/20 @ 1:24 pm #
From a Tim Blair update, the “hacked” email server was at the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit (CRU), not the Hadley Climatic Research Centre – which, interestingly, had their Ministry of Defence funding cut. Hmmm.
Comment by Pablo on 11/20 @ 1:31 pm #
And while confirming the “hack” the Beeb makes it clear that they don’t know what happened.
Maybe they don’t know what “hacked” means. Or maybe they don’t care.
Comment by SBP on 11/20 @ 1:48 pm #
Whoa, even NPR is covering this, and without even burying the lede.
Comment by SBP on 11/20 @ 1:56 pm #
OT: Doctor Utopia drops below 50% in Gallup for the first time.
Considering how thoroughly rigged the Gallup Poll is, that’s going to leave a mark.
Comment by sdferr on 11/20 @ 2:43 pm #
Q: Feeling murderous?
A: Nah, no more than usual. Why?
Comment by Joe on 11/20 @ 2:45 pm #
Sorry to go off topic but:
Iraqi detainees are taunting Wisconsin National Guard members with Brett Farve jokes.
Maybe these Iraqis Detainees are just being like ignorant monkeys just mimicing taunts they over heard about Farve, but if they actually get this issue, and are following American Football–is hell freezing over?
Somehow this seems like a good thing.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/20 @ 2:56 pm #
If there’s the substance to this that there seems to be, I’m going to be looking forward to climate scientists washing my convertible and mowing my lawn.
Comment by SDN on 11/20 @ 3:00 pm #
I’ll let Snowblow argue with that right-wing hotbed CNBC:
Comment by Dr Carlo Lombardi on 11/20 @ 3:13 pm #
Hey,Alphie. Let me refresh your polemics with the reliable leftard starter kit: “Boooosh! Cheney! Halliburton! Limbaugh! Beck! Palin! Wingnuts! 230.000,000 million dead in Iraq! 9/11 was an inside job! I need to get laid!”
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 3:15 pm #
You forgot RACISTS, Dr Lombardi.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 3:22 pm #
Why is it that you mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging neanderthals deny the scientific consensus that AGW exists and is destroying our delicate planet? But since you RethugliKKKan totalitarian fascists believe that the earth is only 6000 years old and that the flying spaghetti monster in the sky was sent by sweet baby jesus to save the world from communism, it is really no surprise that you deny that which is obvious to any thinking person. Buddha weeps at what you are destroying.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 11/20 @ 3:32 pm #
If you could work the military-industrial complex and Zionism in there, JD, I think you could have a winner.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 3:36 pm #
How could I forget the JOOOOOOOOS ?!
Comment by BJTexs on 11/20 @ 3:36 pm #
Is JD the Dean of Denunciators or the Sultan of Smack?
Inquiring minds want to know, wingnutz.
What, JD, no misogynists? You no like teh womyns.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 3:40 pm #
Because of TEH PATRIARCHY!!! ZOMFG!!!
Comment by Silver Whistle on 11/20 @ 3:44 pm #
N. O’Brain, I don’t think there is an equivalent to RICO in England & Wales. I’m not sure about Scotland.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/20 @ 3:44 pm #
Thee important thing is hopefully our piece of shit Chicago street trash president and his collective of dirty socialist thugs will stop abusing children with their bullshit climate change catastrophe stories. Barbara Boxer especially should have her heinous bitch ass muzzled I think.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 11/20 @ 3:50 pm #
Muzzling an ass can have serious repercussions, Happy.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/20 @ 3:51 pm #
Did the wingnutz declare victory over Global Climate Change and I missed it?
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 3:55 pm #
Alphie got into the paint chips again.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 3:58 pm #
The things you have missed would fill the Grand Canyon, alphie.
Dance, monkeyboy. DANCE!
Comment by dicentra on 11/20 @ 4:17 pm #
That hacker is a heroic person the like of which seems to be very rare in our little country these days.
The stuff was posted on a Russian site, so I don’t know the citizenship of the hacker.
My guess is this institute gets thrown under the bus
The e-mails involve Michael Mann, who ranks second only to James Hanson in the AGW crime family.
As for whether the files are real, the deafining silence over at realclimate.org means that everyone got the message to clam up until the real damage-control team can swing into operation.
Also, the level of detail in the e-mails (naming specific series and the ways to use them to fraudulent ends) might bespeak authenticity. You’d have to be Steve McIntyre or a faithful reader of climateaudit.org who understands all of the science to fake such docs.
Me, I’m fairly sure Glenn Beck did it.
Comment by dicentra on 11/20 @ 4:18 pm #
Global Climate Change
Why the weasel euphemism, alphie? The only climatic change that merits One-World Gubmint is uncontrolled WARMING.
Actual global climate change? That’s been going on for 4.6 billion years.
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/20 @ 4:26 pm #
I guess it’s too early to call Al Gore the Bernie Madoff of the Environment.
Comment by Raving Moonbats R Us on 11/20 @ 4:28 pm #
I thought you Xianists thought the earth is only 6 thousand years old and Moses rode a dinosaur or something. I saw it on twitter so it must be true.
Comment by Jim in KC on 11/20 @ 4:48 pm #
Moses drove a Yugo.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/20 @ 4:51 pm #
Overheard on an iceberg…
Polar Bear 2: This thing was huge 10 minutes ago…
Polar Bear 1: I fuckin’ told ya.
Polar Bear 2: I thought you were kidding. And it just goes to vapor?
Polar Bear 1: Yup. It’s because of those CRU e-mails.
Polar Bear 2: Would you cut it out with the CRU email crap!
Polar Bear 1: Well…it’s true.
Polar Bear 2: You need an email to tell you this whole AGW shit was all about power and money?
Polar Bear 1: No. But I need a sandwich.
Polar Bear 2: This thing is gonna evaporate in about five fucking minutes and you’re thinking about food?
Polar Bear 1: I’m hungry. Plus, there’s a ton of ice beneath us. We’re OK.
Polar Bear 2: How far out do you think we are?
Polar Bear 1: I saw snowcone a while back, so maybe not too far.
Polar Bear 2: snowcone?…That stupid penguin?
Polar Bear 1: Yeah.
Polar Bear 2: Dude. He’s retarded. He gets lost in his own nest.
Polar Bear 1: Well I did see him crying one time. And rubbing his own shit all over his face.
Polar Bear 2: That’s what I’m saying! Jesus! We could be in Russian waters for all we know.
Polar Bear 1: Russians put bears in the circus.
Polar Bear 2: Well, you wouldn’t like it and I can’t juggle.
Polar Bear 1: So…what do we do?
Polar Bear 2: I dunno.
Polar Bear 1: I have an idea.
Polar Bear 2: So spill it.
Polar Bear 1: Humans use these icebergs for fresh water, right?
Polar Bear 2: Yeah. So…?
Polar Bear 1: So lets poop all over this one.
Polar Bear 2: [sigh] You’re an idiot.
Polar Bear 1: Could wind up in Al Gore’s pool.
Polar Bear 2: … Ok. I’ll shit here. You go over there.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/20 @ 4:52 pm #
“Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 3:55 pm #
Alphie got into the paint chips again.”
“Not only am I the President of The Paint Chip Of the Month Club™, I’m a member!!!!
-snotspill
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/20 @ 5:25 pm #
FoxNews – UN IPCC: “Confirmed: Global Climate Change is Killing the Loch Ness Monster. Also, Please Delete All Your Emails.”
Comment by newrouter on 11/20 @ 5:34 pm #
an inconvenient truth
Comment by newrouter on 11/20 @ 5:39 pm #
after talking with bertha lewis @ acorn:
“Professor Michael Mann, director of Pennsylvania State University’s Earth System Science Centre and a regular contributor to the popular climate science blog Real Climate, features in many of the email exchanges. He said: “I’m not going to comment on the content of illegally obtained emails. However, I will say this: both their theft and, I believe, any reproduction of the emails that were obtained on public websites, etc, constitutes serious criminal activity. I’m hoping the perpetrators and their facilitators will be tracked down and prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows.”"
here
stick your hockey stick where the sun don’t shine
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/20 @ 5:44 pm #
That’s it. These are emails are real.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/20 @ 5:48 pm #
Dear Michael Mann,
After parsing your response, what, in your opinion sir, would be the scientific definition of “corn holed”?
If you’ll hold on, I’ll get you a mirror.
Comment by SBP on 11/20 @ 5:58 pm #
So we have a “no comment” from Mann and a “no comment” from Jones.
All we need is one from Hansen to complete the trifecta.
Comment by geoffb on 11/20 @ 6:21 pm #
Hat trick since ice is involved.
Comment by geoffb on 11/20 @ 6:22 pm #
And a hockey stick.
Comment by No one you know on 11/20 @ 6:27 pm #
He said: “I’m not going to comment on the content of illegally obtained emails. However, I will say this: both their theft and, I believe, any reproduction of the emails that were obtained on public websites, etc, constitutes serious criminal activity. I’m hoping the perpetrators and their facilitators will be tracked down and prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows.””
Ah, there’s the spin I was thinking about earlier today. If this story gains any traction at all, look for the hacker to take on Linda Tripp or Joe the Plumber status. Messenger is about to be zorched.
Comment by dicentra on 11/20 @ 6:33 pm #
Lamont, you really are a big dummy:
1. Penguins and poley bears do not commingle in nature. Get an atlas.
2. Penguins do not use nests. They incubate their eggs on their foots. Watch March of the Penguins already.
Comment by Pablo on 11/20 @ 6:40 pm #
Aw, information wants to ge free, Mikey. And that ‘hacker’ might be one of your colleagues, leaving no crime at all to speak of…except maybe the fraud you’ve been perpetrating.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!
Comment by Joe on 11/20 @ 6:45 pm #
Someone must have frozen Levi Johnson. He looks cold.
Comment by Raving Moonbats R Us on 11/20 @ 6:51 pm #
Here’s another one, dicentra. Polar bears can’t talk.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 6:51 pm #
But there is a consensus !!!
Comment by Cranky-d & Associates on 11/20 @ 6:52 pm #
Darn sockpuppet.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 7:16 pm #
Imagine, if Mann were a conservative, how the reaction would differ. The mediacritters should be jamming their microphones in the faces of Mann and algore and the rest of those that perpetuated this hoax.
Comment by newrouter on 11/20 @ 7:19 pm #
as a pitt fan lets attack psu w/foias
Comment by Adriane on 11/20 @ 8:00 pm #
or, one could just watch this advertisement for March of the Penguins … and have a good laugh or two
Comment by rao6n on 11/20 @ 8:14 pm #
I seized 3 times, threw up in my hands twice and died laughing. . . . A Pulitzer! ! ! ! ! !
Comment by rao6n on 11/20 @ 8:16 pm #
damn comment thingy– I meant for Lamont’s #87 comment
My apologies, and back to your recently changed AGW, climate change, cooling, greening, browning, whatever. . .
LAmont– a classic! ! !
Comment by happyfeet on 11/20 @ 8:50 pm #
this was funny I wish I’d read it earlier today everyone was so grumpy at work I could have used some funny
I don’t really understand why they get so grumpy it’s just marketing you shouldn’t get your sense of self-worth involved is the first rule of marketing I think.
Comment by Pablo on 11/20 @ 8:57 pm #
This is funny too. Read the wonders that lie behind this delightful URL:
https://donate.barackobama.com/SarahPalin
And then read this.
If you’re not laughing yet, you didn’t click through the last link on that HA post.
Comment by TopsecretK9 on 11/20 @ 9:51 pm #
Pablo is NOT kidding about the last link at HA. Put drink down.
Comment by Darleen on 11/20 @ 11:00 pm #
Pablo
the Left says Palin is a liar or psychopath or trailer trash
so why are they so afraid of her that she is the poster grrrrl for OFA/MoveOn fund raising?
Democracy died in this country when the DC/NYC/Frisco/Chicago/LA elites decided that “voters” were rubes too declasse to be allowed a voice in the politics or policies of this country.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/20 @ 11:07 pm #
Barack Obama has no dignity. This is why everybody says he’s just a Chicago street trash piece of shit. I think it’s cause his mommy and daddy both abandoned his ass is why he has no dignity. Some people just never get over that kind of rejection.
Comment by peter jackson on 11/20 @ 11:52 pm #
If you think about it, carbon regulation would essentially be the political control of all instances of the use of fire in society. Time to take science back from the dickheads.
Comment by geoffb on 11/21 @ 1:56 am #
CRU email file is at Megaupload. according to Ace.
Lot of reading there.
Comment by Pablo on 11/21 @ 6:53 am #
Never waste a crisis.
Comment by B Moe on 11/21 @ 8:46 am #
And breathing.
Comment by dicentra on 11/21 @ 10:53 am #
Powerline has a great analysis of some of the more damning e-mails.
Me, having downloaded and extracted the infernal archive, now have less than 1 GB free on my hard drive. It’s worth it.
If you think about it, carbon regulation would essentially be the political control of all instances of the use of fire in society.
And breathing.
And decomposition.
So, no combustion, no living, no dying. Other than that, do as you will.
Comment by dicentra on 11/21 @ 10:59 am #
Oh, and this is one of the smokingest guns, so far, IMAO:
That’s some genu-wine, bona fide moonbat reasoning going on there. The scientific method DEMANDS that data NEVER be withheld, that it all be transparency and double-checking and the like.
But these fools are True Believers, as Hinderaker said in my link, above. They are fully marinated in the assumption that Teh Cause is what’s important, and their manipulations of data isn’t problematic except to the evil people on the outside.
Yup, it’s bunker mentality for sure. Critiques of one’s methods and conclusions is NOT WELCOME, and anyone who isn’t fully on-board with the project can’t be trusted to do “good science.”
Wow. Just. Wow.
Comment by sdferr on 11/21 @ 11:06 am #
No doubt many years from now, so many years that these dishonest men who are happy to call themselves scientists will all be long dead, someone will look back at this shameful episode and shake their head in wonder. Until then, will justice be done? I think not.
Comment by geoffb on 11/21 @ 11:35 am #
After #118 I wondered how big those extracted files were as I hadn’t done that part yet. 157 meg. Sizable but not drive busting. Oops, there are zip files inside the zip file. Now up to 201 meg. Probably more hidden inside somewhere.
Comment by dicentra on 11/21 @ 5:58 pm #
#121
But I had so little drive space to begin with, the rest of it being occupied by LOLcats.
Comment by B Moe on 11/22 @ 6:55 am #
On another forum I frequent, some of us were chastised by a stalwart defender of SCIENCE for being totally immersed/caught up in/consumed by the quest to prove AGW wrong. He just couldn’t understand why.