Baffled?
That thing about language and meaning Jeff’s been stressing? Nah.
Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years.
Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the upcoming world summit in the Danish capital, where thousands of politicians, bureaucrats, scientists, business leaders and environmental activists plan to negotiate a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations.
Probably billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations. Theory wanting? Get creative.
Comment by Carin on 11/19 @ 1:28 pm #
I don’t think we’re giving credit where credit is due.
IS THERE NOTHING OBAMA CANNOT DO?!!!
I bet all you doubters feel pretty stupid right about now.
Comment by Carin on 11/19 @ 1:30 pm #
“We don’t really know why this stagnation is taking place at this point.”
ba ha ahaa haa aaa..
I know how they can figure this one out. They can take a poll of various “scientists” and come to a consensus.
It just gets better:
IT IS HOTTER. IT IS IT IS IT IS. [stamps foot]
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/19 @ 1:35 pm #
“Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years.”
Because true believers are never swayed by facts. Or those with a pecuniary interest in a lie.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/19 @ 1:37 pm #
Al Gore will paint a picture for you. Unfortunately, not reality-based.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/19 @ 1:39 pm #
“If you’d asked any scientist or doctor 30 years ago where stomach ulcers come from, they would all have given the same answer: obviously it comes from the acid brought on by too much stress. All of them apart from two scientists who were pilloried for their crazy, whacko theory that it was caused by a bacteria. In 2005 they won the Nobel prize. The “consensus” was wrong.”
-Ian Plimer
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/19 @ 1:40 pm #
“Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future.”
-Niels Bohr
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/19 @ 1:41 pm #
“There are two ways of forming an opinion. One is the scientific method; the other, the scholastic. To the scientific mind, experimental proof is all-important, and theory is merely a convenience in description, to be junked when it no longer fits. To the academic mind, authority is everything, and facts are junked when they do not fit theory.”
-Robert A. Heinlein
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 1:47 pm #
Why do you reichwingNazis hate science?
Comment by Carin on 11/19 @ 1:50 pm #
Because we’re all creationists, JD. You should know that.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/19 @ 1:54 pm #
We’re in danger of becoming Venus, you see. All we have to do is gain 92x more atmospheric mass, turn about 95% of that into CO2, and move our planet closer to the sun so as to about double the amount of energy raining down, and we’re Venus! CAN’T YOU SEE THE DANGER?
Comment by Carin on 11/19 @ 1:56 pm #
God won’t let that happen Slart. Or he will because it’s End Times. And the jews fit in here somehow.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/19 @ 2:05 pm #
Of course the article completely misses the most important point. Ya see, it’s not about whether or not the Earth is warming, cooling or staying the same. It’s about whether or not that warming is caused by increased CO2 in the upper atmosphere and the assumption that the increase is man made.
That’s why the whole seventies cooling trend while CO2 levels were increasing (slightly) kind of doesn’t get talked about. It also shows why significantly impacting the economies of industrialized nations on the basis of climate models is akin to picking stocks by closing one’s eyes and randomly pointing at a list.
Again, these people can’t predict next month’s climate with any certifiable degree of accuracy. Why are they obsessing about 25 and 50 year models? We haven’t even started discussing variances in solar radiation, a field not well understood by most climatologists.
Bah!
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/19 @ 2:10 pm #
All that I know is that when it snows in Florida for Easter, it’s either irrefutable evidence of Global Warming, or “you don’t know the difference between climate and weather, idiot.” When it is an unseasonably balmy day, that too is conclusive evidence of Global Warming.
Neat how that works for them . . .
Comment by JHo on 11/19 @ 2:16 pm #
So does The Jew.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/19 @ 2:18 pm #
This is fun. Al Gore couldn’t find a picture for his new book that was ManBearPiggish enough, so they airbrushed in some hurricanes and took out the Arctic ice. Also, check out the hurricane that got added off Florida. Seems to be spinning a bit … backwards. Unless AGW has reversed the Coriolis Effect and nobody noticed.
Comment by Al Gore on 11/19 @ 2:19 pm #
{Forefingers firmly in ears}
La la la la la… I can’t hear you.
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 2:19 pm #
Al Gore surely must believe someone is stoking the furnace of hell to get the Earth’s core up to millions of degrees, why not the Jew?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 2:35 pm #
You wingnuts don’t understand: The cattle can’t be stampeded with the truth.
Comment by Matt on 11/19 @ 2:41 pm #
“Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research”
Also known as the Potsdamn Institute for Profiting over Paranoia about Global Warming.
Its funny, the left HATES corporations for making a profit but when “scientists” do it, apparently its ok.
Comment by Matt on 11/19 @ 2:42 pm #
*Unless AGW has reversed the Coriolis Effect and nobody noticed.*
Probably Karl Rove’s weather machine- you know, the same one he used to destroy New Orleans at Bush’s behest.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/19 @ 2:54 pm #
It “stalled” because “AGW” never really existed…Sheesh, what are they going to say next when the temperatures begin declining below the baseline from which the horrific warming that was hand-wrung over for years was measured…
I’m not sure exactly, but I’m sure that it will be accompanied by the mournful wailing, “I BLAME BOOOOOOOOSH!…”
Comment by dakotas5 on 11/19 @ 2:56 pm #
It’s the sun stupid
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/19 @ 3:03 pm #
“Al Gore couldn’t find a picture for his new book that was ManBearPiggish enough, so they airbrushed in some hurricanes and took out the Arctic ice.”
Same article JHo linked to, no?
Comment by mongo78 on 11/19 @ 3:26 pm #
I remember in 2005 when the consensus was that California housing prices were going to continue going up forever, which is why the median San Diego price for a 3-bed, 2-bath crackerbox off of El Cajon Blvd. is now $2 million.
The people who promulgated that bit of malarkey were doing it for the same reason the AGW crowd is relentlessly flogging theirs – they got paid vast sums of money, at least until they ran out of suckers.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/19 @ 3:39 pm #
I suppose that profiting from globalclimatechangemongering is considered substantially more moral than icky stuff like defense contracting.
Comment by the other Ken on 11/19 @ 3:40 pm #
I know that global warming is real because Naomi Klein told me so. It’s right there in the Nov 11 issue of Rolling Stone. Also, it’s our fault and we need to immediately send money to the poor countries that are suffering because of our piggish ways. So there.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/19 @ 3:49 pm #
Stupid wingnutz! Senator Debbie Stabenow can feel, FEEL CLIMATE CHANGE FROM HER JET!!!
linky no worky
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 3:50 pm #
You flat-earth new-earth godfreaks that deny AGW and global climate change disgust me. Why do you hate the earth so much that you rape and pillage mother nature for fun, profit, and racism?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/19 @ 3:50 pm #
where is the maggie? There is opportunity of which her to be aware I think.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/19 @ 3:53 pm #
Slart@23: Same article JHo linked to, no?
Oops on me. I should learn by now to click all the ornage linky thingers before posting. Good pickup.
But Teh Goracle is still a whackjob.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/19 @ 3:59 pm #
The Goracle says the Earth’s interior is millions of degrees, and you Godbotherers are morons if you don’t believe that.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 4:07 pm #
fun, profit, and racism
Now there’s a party I wanna go to.
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 4:07 pm #
Why don’t you Jesuslander bitter clingy science deniers go fantasize about some end of days scenario and let the sentient beings save the earth. Teh One already stopped the oceans from rising. Next he will cool the earth’s core to 500,000 degrees. Just get out of our way and let us do the work of Mother Gaia.
Comment by Bill D. Cat on 11/19 @ 4:15 pm #
Why do you hate the earth so much that you rape and pillage mother nature for fun, profit, and racism?
On a personal note , for me , it’s all about the racism .
Comment by maggie katzen on 11/19 @ 4:20 pm #
I don’t think I have enough gold here. : (
When I take Roxie to class at Petsmart, we always go look at the kitties. a couple weeks ago there was this one kitten that hissed at her, but usually they don’t care.
Comment by SPC Jack Klompus on 11/19 @ 4:24 pm #
JD I’m too busy supporting Zionism only for the sake of speeding up the Second Coming here in red state flyover country. I need Frank Rich to diagnose my maladies.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 4:27 pm #
I’m holding out for a scan of my limbic brain by noted neurologist Janeane Garofalo.
Comment by The Lost Dog on 11/19 @ 4:32 pm #
““Climate change is very real,” she confessed…”
And has been real for about 2 billion years, you stupid twit.
Comment by SBP on 11/19 @ 4:45 pm #
“We don’t really know why this stagnation is taking place at this point.”
But by golly we still want to implement an economic dislocation adding up to trillions of dollars.
Because it’s the Scientific Way.
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 4:48 pm #
Climate change is very real. REAL, I TELL YOU. REAL! Why just this year, it has changed from winter, to spring, to summer, to fall, and soon winter again. What the fuck is the matter with you science denying reichwingNazi Jesuslanders?!?!?!
Comment by McGehee on 11/19 @ 4:49 pm #
Global cooling is irrefutable proof of global warming! While we weren’t looking (probably because we were blinded by the awesomeness that is Obama), the earth got so warm that the Gulf Stream reversed and now the oceans are cooling and lower temperatures are being measured but it’s all because of the warming! ‘Cause see, if the earth hadn’t got as warm as it is, it’d be even hotter!
Comment by SBP on 11/19 @ 4:52 pm #
If climate change doesn’t exist, how come it was raining when I left for work this morning and now it isn’t?
Explain THAT, deniers. Go ahead. I’m waiting.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/19 @ 5:00 pm #
also I hate public housing especially when they put it near real people and then there are crimes
Comment by Bill D. Cat on 11/19 @ 5:02 pm #
Explain THAT, deniers. Go ahead. I’m waiting.
It’s the offsets , stupid .
Comment by Blake on 11/19 @ 5:03 pm #
@SBP,
That’s weather, not climate.
Sheesh, how mahy times do we deniers have to explain..oh, what, that’s the argument the believers use?
Carry on, then.
Comment by Blake on 11/19 @ 5:04 pm #
mahy=many
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 5:09 pm #
You godfreaks prolly deny that water is wet and that Eliza Dushku is Teh Hawt. /spit
Comment by Kresh on 11/19 @ 5:12 pm #
Hmm. I’m trying to remember the last storm that I flew through that wasn’t volatile. Her “SHAKING UP/DOWN” meter is super sensitive.
I wonder what she’d say about the “IMPENDING CLIMATE CHANGE O’ DOOOOOM!” if she hit real turbulence, as opposed to the turbulence on experiences over Las Vegas.
Oh, wait, she’s pol. My BS Meter just buried the needle, broke the needle stop, and is now just spinning and spinning. I think I’ve got one of them perpetual motion thingies here! Woo-hoo!
Comment by SDN on 11/19 @ 5:26 pm #
I nominate Al’s knowledge of geothermal for the Rosie “Fire Doesn’t Melt Steel” O’Donnell Science Prize.
Comment by cranky-d on 11/19 @ 5:36 pm #
Don’t tell the enviro-wackos that the only reason this planet didn’t die millions of years ago is because of all the radioactive material inside keeping it warmer. That’s right, nuclear power is the only thing keeping this planet alive!
Google it!!
Comment by Jim in KC on 11/19 @ 5:39 pm #
Too late. Obama already won it. If I remember correctly, they’ve already awarded him the Stanley Cup, too.
Comment by newrouter on 11/19 @ 5:41 pm #
“Explain THAT, deniers. Go ahead. I’m waiting.”
come on everyone knows the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.
Comment by Rusty on 11/19 @ 5:49 pm #
Gaia got bored and went out for a sammich. As she was leaving she turned down the thermostat. Just as valid as anyhting Algore can come up with.
Comment by cranky-d on 11/19 @ 5:49 pm #
I think Obama is up for an Emmy and a Tony as well, right? Of course an Oscar for best actor is already sewn up.
Comment by Jim in KC on 11/19 @ 5:56 pm #
Let’s just say it wouldn’t be a shock, cranky-d.
I’d be a lot more impressed with the reality of AGW if the believers could successfully put their sooper-genius powers to work effectively on a smaller system first. Like stock-picking, let’s say. Surely such statistical geniuses could accurately and consistently pick winning stocks, right?
Comment by Kresh on 11/19 @ 6:00 pm #
Sorry, it’s against their religion. Free Market Capitalism = Teh Debbil.
Comment by newrouter on 11/19 @ 6:03 pm #
so if the earth’s core is 1 million degrees might that cause global warming/climate change
Comment by Jim in KC on 11/19 @ 6:06 pm #
Making money is so bourgeois, Kresh. Taking it from someone else, or rendering it valueless, is ever so much cooler.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/19 @ 6:15 pm #
“You flat-earth new-earth godfreaks that deny AGW and global climate change disgust me. Why do you hate the earth so much that you rape and pillage mother nature for fun, profit, and racism?”
JD, that is an instant classic bit of snark there, especially the, “…for fun, profit, and racism?”, part! So far into character, with pitch perfect tone, it could have come directly from one of the nutroot trolls…
Have you ever considered a career in theater?
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/19 @ 6:17 pm #
“Why don’t you Jesuslander bitter clingy science deniers go fantasize about some end of days scenario and let the sentient beings save the earth. Teh One already stopped the oceans from rising. Next he will cool the earth’s core to 500,000 degrees. Just get out of our way and let us do the work of Mother Gaia.”
You are on a roll today! I’m renedered veritably speechless…
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 11/19 @ 6:28 pm #
I still think that alphie is really al gore. The couple million degrees thingie convinces me even more.
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 6:32 pm #
Thank you, Bob. I have my moments. While you are busy praying to the flying spaghetti gawd in the sky, contemplate what your actions are doing to our beloved planet. Until we all quit expelling CO2, Goddess Earth cannot be safe.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 11/19 @ 6:33 pm #
Let us try a new concept, one without pride attached to it: The earth will do as it will, and puny humans cannot affect that.
Comment by newrouter on 11/19 @ 6:37 pm #
geez are you saying “let nature take its course”? how can you run a decent scam with an attitude like that
Comment by Jim in KC on 11/19 @ 6:56 pm #
I’m not holding my breath on that one…
Comment by geoffb on 11/19 @ 7:02 pm #
As a Michigander I apologize.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 11/19 @ 7:18 pm #
Me too, geoffb.
Sorry, newrouter. I guess I am too honest.*
*My little brother has said that I missed my calling as either a pundit or as a military officer – but he said I would have gotten into trouble for being too honest.
Comment by newrouter on 11/19 @ 8:21 pm #
no sun spots gorester que “the sting”
Comment by dicentra on 11/19 @ 8:21 pm #
Anyone want a primo presentation on why AGW is a crock, now with new data?
This is Richard Lindzen, prof of Atmospheric Sciences at MIT, showing how actual measurements that he spent 20 years taking disprove the core assumption behind AGW.
And here is a video of that same presentation, plus other resources for the taking.
Enjoy!
Comment by Roland THTG on 11/19 @ 9:08 pm #
Global Warming is real.
The inside of the Earth is already like a MILLION FUCKING DEGREES!!!!!111!1
- AlGore
Comment by newrouter on 11/19 @ 9:18 pm #
ferraro idiot from new york
Comment by Hvy Mtl Hntr on 11/19 @ 9:20 pm #
It’s been 10 freakin’ below zero every morning for the past week here in snowbilly country- We need Algore to take pity and spew some hot gas up here, but NO…. he has to be in freakin’ Florida!
Comment by Roland THTG on 11/19 @ 9:30 pm #
Funny thing happened to me when I was living outside of PHX, waaaaay out in the sub suburbs. Mostly cotton fields.
Went to fetch the bro-in-law at Sky Harbor one evening in September. About 30 mi one way.
I left the house the outside temp gauge in the car read 85. I get to the airport about 9:00 PM, and it reports that it’s 104.
Hmmmm, I wonder where the official PHX temp is recorded?
It was probably closer to A MILLION FUCKING DEGREES, I’m not sure, maybe AlGore can help.
Comment by Pablo on 11/19 @ 9:39 pm #
Not to mention Best in Show at Westminster.
Comment by newrouter on 11/19 @ 9:55 pm #
harry out pelosi @12,000,000 pages of rube golberg device
Comment by nbindo on 11/19 @ 10:29 pm #
A funny thing happened on the way to the Copenhagen Conference on Climate Change (Used to be called global warming, until it didn’t).
Seems a skeptic in the warmist’s cabal has released 61MB of incriminating emails about preventing a fair review of the doom and gloom predictions.
Link:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/#more-12937
One example:
From: Michael Mann
To: Kevin Trenberth
Cc: Tom Wigley , Stephen H Schneider , Myles Allen , peter stott , “Philip D. Jones” , Benjamin Santer , Thomas R Karl , Gavin Schmidt , James Hansen , Michael Oppenheimer
Kevin Trenberth wrote:
Hi all
Well I have my own article on where the heck is global warming? We are asking that here in Boulder where we have broken records the past two days for the coldest days on record. We had 4 inches of snow. The high the last 2 days was below 30F and the normal is 69F, and it smashed the previous records for these days by 10F. The low was about 18F and also a record low, well below the previous record low. This is January weather (see the Rockies baseball playoff game was canceled on saturday and then played last night in below freezing weather).
The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.
or here is Phil Jones about his urbanization paper which were published in 1990:
I have another paper just accepted in JGR coming out on Chinese temps
and urbanization. This will also likely cause a stir. I’ll send you a copy when
I get the proofs from AGU. Some of the paper relates to the 1990 paper
and the fraud allegation against Wei-Chyung Wang. Remind me on this in
a few weeks if you hear nothing.
Cheers
Phil
PPS Our web server has found this piece of garbage – so wrong it is unbelievable that
Tim Ball wrote a decent paper in Climate Since AD 1500. I sometimes wish I’d never
said this about the land stations in an email. Referring to Alex von Storch just
shows how up to date he is.
[2]http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3151
At 20:12 21/05/2008, Michael Mann wrote:
Comment by Joe on 11/19 @ 10:30 pm #
Then again perhaps manmade CO2 is helping to prevent a new ice age. Win Win.
Talking about language, I am not a fan of little lindsay graham, but man does he do an asswhoppin on eric holder.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 10:42 pm #
Not to mention Best in Show at Westminster.
Dare we hope for a Darwin?
Comment by maggie katzen on 11/19 @ 10:55 pm #
Did we ever hear about the Heismann? I voted for him.
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 11:10 pm #
Thankfully Obama wasn’t awarded the AL Cy Young and the right guy, Zack Greinke was.
Comment by qwerty1 on 11/19 @ 11:59 pm #
nbindo, the original ftp site link does not work. If you want the file it is on bit torrent at:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/3168330
Comment by geoffb on 11/20 @ 12:37 am #
I’ve commented before about how one big inflationary effect of Obama is on the cost of bribes. A new mark has been established for a single vote on a single bill.
Democrat Senator Mary Landrieu, $100,000,000. Way to go Mary, bringing home the fresh pork butt for the Big Easy.
Comment by SDN on 11/20 @ 3:52 am #
JTDW, that’s what’s known as “toss our political masters a bone, and hope they get the hell out of the way.”
Comment by Jim in KC on 11/20 @ 6:58 am #
If he shows up at a press conference wearing a garland of roses, I’m moving to Bahrain.
Comment by Danger on 11/20 @ 7:19 am #
“Dare we hope for a Darwin?”
Now cool is a rule but sometimes BAD IS BAD!
I’d provide a link but the utube is ublocked here so I’m assigning this recon mission to Happyfeet. PW is counting on ya feets.
Comment by Carin on 11/20 @ 7:37 am #
Senator Debbie Stabenow
As a Michigander I apologize.
You apologize all you want Geoff, but I ain’t taking the blame for that. Or Levin. Or Conyers.
Fuck ‘em all sideways with a swordfish, I says.
Comment by Joe on 11/20 @ 8:25 am #
Global warming fraud!
Comment by McGehee on 11/20 @ 8:39 am #
JTDW, the Navy also has plans for a submarine invasion of the New York City sewers. Bet’cha anything.
That’s what military planners do.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/20 @ 8:42 am #
Beyond the sneering use of scare words like “denial” you are unaware that the military literally has hundreds and hundreds of wartime and logistical scenarios from the plausible to the barely bizarre. buy it’s easier to just pluck a random bit of data, sneer ate the commentariat and them poop it onto a thread like it is holy scripture.
Pretty much defines the entire AGW debate right there.
And don’t bother running the “peer reviewed” narrative at us either. There are some serious problems with that meme:
(h/t: Hot Air)
But hey! Al Gore’s got millions and millions of degrees of molten rock to create geothermal energy for everyone! THE NARRATIVE MARCHES ON, TRAMP TRAMP!
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/20 @ 9:26 am #
I thought the Yamal proxies were lake sediments. Which, interestingly, also make damned fine thermometers, if you remember not to regress on the data inverted, which they did.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/20 @ 11:43 am #
I guess the denial about global warming isn’t affecting the US Navy, as they have to plan for an ice free arctic.
Back in the 30’s, we had a warplan to invade Canada. That doesn’t make Canadian Bacon a good movie.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 11:51 am #
Andrew – Excellent point. It is not a good movie. It is a great movie. Methinks JTDW is a mental midget. I wonder if the Navy has contingency plans for when the Chinese invade by way of shipping containers, or riding over on the backs of sharks WITH LAZERS !!!!!
Comment by SBP on 11/20 @ 11:52 am #
Right, that’s their job. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that the Pentagon has a contingency plan for invading the Vatican. Not a high-priority plan, mind you, but at least some preliminary spadework similar to “we’d cut off the power and water here and here, then send the tanks in here and here”.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/20 @ 12:53 pm #
Oh, the upside-down data was the Tiljander proxies. There’s so many bones of contention there that we could all keep our rose gardens beautiful for decades, so much bone meal would there be.
Comment by Riff on 1/2 @ 6:04 pm #
Its a very scary world when suckers like JD are duped beyond help into believing the world is flat and that man can alter the enormity of the Earth’s atmosphere.
Such morons will EVENTUALLY know the truth but until then we must endure these cretins.