To understand the sheer idiocy and harm to be done by the CPSIA (best coverage at Overlawyered and I’ve covered it here and here) is to see CA AG Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown hold a press conference in order to rattle his saber at retailers.
Here at the cusp of the holiday buying spree (or what passes for a spree in the midst of this pesky recession), California Attorney General Jerry Brown issues a warning. It’s okay to drop a lump of coal into Junior’s stocking if you see fit, but you can’t have lead in any product aimed at children.Brown sent out letters to six big retailers, telling them to pull from their shelves a number of products testing shows contain excessive amounts of lead. California considers anything more than 300 parts per million to be excessive when it comes to lead.
Certainly, no one wants kids ingesting lead. However, let’s look at that list of potentially harmful, OH MY GAWD! ELEVENTY!!! WALMART WANTS TO KILL MY KIDS!!! “toys”
•Kids Poncho, sold at WalMart, contains 667 ppm of lead.
•MSY Faded Glory Rebecca Shoes, sold at WalMart, contains 1331 ppm of lead
•Dora the Explorer Activity Tote, sold at TJ Maxx, contains 2348 ppm of lead
•Paula Fuschia Open-Toes Shoes, sold at Sears, contains 3957 ppm of lead
•Reversible Croco Belt, sold at Target, contains 4270 ppm of lead.
•Barbie Bike Flair Accessory Kit, sold at Tuesday Morning, contains 6196 ppm of lead.And the most leaded of them all…
•The Disney Fairies Silvermist’s Water Lily Necklace, sold at Walgreens. Brown says his test results show 22000ppm of lead.
Do you see one toy on that list? Goodness, the majority of it is CLOTHING. And that’s because brass or any metal that may have lead in it is verbotten. It doesn’t matter if your 11 year old is not going to be chewing on the beltbuckle of a reversible croc belt, the mere presence within five yards of the youngster is magically going to TAINT THEM FOREVER!!!! Children under 12 cannot have bikes, buttons, zippers, grommets or any piece of clothing, jewelry, books, notebooks (think of those horrible, dangerous spiral pads), ballpoint pens ….. well, you get the picture. Children should be dressed in flour sacking, use brown paper bags and crayons for writing and “toys” made strictly from unbleached organic cotton or wool.
Congress passed a “feel-good” bill written by evil troll Henry Waxman and Jerry Brown is taking advantage of it …
Brown’s office says the Consumer Product Safety Commission has also been notified.
… as a distraction from his own problems.
Comment by Squid on 11/19 @ 8:51 am #
Why does anyone still live in California? No water, no electricity, no jobs, high taxes, crooked government, and anything you might want to do for fun is illegal. When it rains, the hills slide into the canyons, and when it doesn’t rain, everything catches fire.
I mean, if you really want that lifestyle, move to some little Caribbean island. At least there, you’ll have decent booze and cigars. Hell, the dollar’s still worth something down there, too.
Comment by slackjawedyokel on 11/19 @ 9:34 am #
Don’t forget, buckshot pellets have to be steel. Don’t want to endanger the home invaders’ health by having their vital organs penetrated by poisonous old lead! Might stunt their growth.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/19 @ 9:46 am #
The missus has to deal with many levels of stupid in her line of work. She had one whacked-out uber-protective stupid mom freaking out because they wanted her to wear a lead apron while her kid was getting x-rayed. She was upset that they would actually put her child in the same room with a big hunka lead. Never mind the high-energy radiation pouring through the kid’s body, she might catch LEAD COOTIES!!!!!!11!!!!!!1!!!
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 9:57 am #
Today’s conservatives – defending Chinese manufactures who put lead in our kid’s clothing…for free!
Comment by cranky-d on 11/19 @ 10:01 am #
With each passing day, doom looms larger.
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 10:04 am #
I’ll bet there a more than a few people who wonder at times how much lead you ingested when you were a tyke snowcone. It wouldn’t surprise any of them to learn that you ate quite a lot of paint chips back when.
Comment by dneff on 11/19 @ 10:07 am #
I just learned that fishing weigths are 1,000,000 ppm lead.
Comment by Curmudgeon on 11/19 @ 10:10 am #
Why does anyone still live in California?
We are in shock and we hope against hope that Cali can be restored to “the not so long ago time” to paraphrase a South Park cartoon.
Believe it or not, not long ago this state was arguably the best place on Earth. It is sad to watch what the Commiecrats and RINOs have done to it.
Comment by Curmudgeon on 11/19 @ 10:14 am #
Trace amounts of lead can be found in the “snowballs” you give to your “partner”, Snowconedupe.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/19 @ 10:15 am #
Today’s progressives – they’ll fight to save your life, even if it kills you.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/19 @ 10:16 am #
For $873,000,000,000.
Comment by geoffb on 11/19 @ 10:16 am #
You’re taking the wrong perspective on this. There are tremendous job and wealth growth possibilities to be had, not only in the government union job sector, but the trial lawyer part of our economy can see vast expansion ahead from this, and all the other new improved laws Congress in it’s wisdom is passing everyday. It’s a win-win, really. You just have to get your mind right, right? er left, correctly aligned, that’s the ticket.
Comment by Curmudgeon on 11/19 @ 10:21 am #
Don’t forget, buckshot pellets have to be steel. Don’t want to endanger the home invaders’ health by having their vital organs penetrated by poisonous old lead! Might stunt their growth.
The argument against lead shot was a clever move by the gun grabbers in cahoots with the eco-fiends to make shotgun ammo more difficult and costly to purchase.
It was the lack of a saline drain all the way to the Bay/ocean as originally planned that did in Kesterson Wildlife Refuge, not lead shot.
Can lead shot buildup be hazardous? Sure, if you are running a trap and skeet range patronized by thousands of target shooters for years and years. But a acres of marsh only frequented by a handful of sportsmen during duck season? Not so much.
Comment by General Jack Ripper on 11/19 @ 10:31 am #
Thank you, Jerry, for protecting<a href=”our precious bodily fluids.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 11/19 @ 11:19 am #
Snowcone, was that you?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 11:32 am #
Snowcone, was that you?
Sorry, what?
Just reading that a sergeant and three other men in Scott Beauchamp’s outfit were just convicted of murdering Iraqis:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=30030
But they’d never run over a dog! Honest!
Comment by Pablo on 11/19 @ 11:43 am #
Twisting lies into twoof again, eh snotcone? So, did they use those square backed bullets?
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 11:47 am #
It has long been a question what we mean when we say communist China. I’ll bet there are many serious people, whether in China or elsewhere, who think hard about that question and are even so uncertain as to the answer. Jason, evidently, isn’t one of them.
Comment by Curmudgeon on 11/19 @ 11:51 am #
Obviously, Jason wasn’t paying attention when so many of us were disgusted with the Bushyrovie trade and immigration policies. Somehow he still lives with the delusion that we all thought Bushyrovie shit didn’t stink.
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/19 @ 11:53 am #
Awe, Jason got a new talking point today. Ain’t it cute!
Comment by Curmudgeon on 11/19 @ 11:56 am #
They always have to change the subject, don’t they?
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 11:59 am #
Shit, you think they change the subject Curmudgeon? Seems to me like these fools are always say the same thing, no matter the underlying details.
Comment by SDN on 11/19 @ 12:05 pm #
Jason, fool,
1. You don’t know where I shop, but I can assure you that unless you plan for Smoot Hawley round 2 importing goods is always going to happen.
2. If you restrict interest rates on anything so that risk can’t be factored in, you will end up with the same mess in credit cards that the CRA caused in mortgages…. or lenders will simply refuse to extend credit at all. No one will be shopping then, either.
3. As for “the unhealthiest states in the nation”, I don’t see why I should take the word of people who have a vested interest in defining healthy down so they can run my life.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 12:07 pm #
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-face for the urge to rule it. – Mencken
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 12:09 pm #
Twisting lies into twoof again, eh snotcone?
Beauchamp’s sergeant was convicted of murdering four Iraqis, Pablo.
Four.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jzL3G8ABJqqfDQndBQiOijDCvEbA
Are you saying he’s innocent?
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/19 @ 12:13 pm #
I can’t help but picture Lennie Small and his obsession with rabbits when I read their unrelated drivel.
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/19 @ 12:16 pm #
Or the simple notion that Red and Blue States are monolithic in their voting patterns. I guarantee you the poorest parts of the state, those “unhealthy” by their standards, are more than likely democratic strongholds.
Comment by Curmudgeon on 11/19 @ 12:26 pm #
Shit, you think they change the subject Curmudgeon? Seems to me like these fools are always say the same thing, no matter the underlying details.
I guess I should define terms. The specific subjects (credit cards, socialized medicine) change.
However you are correct that Jason’s underlying theme does not change. Jason thinks he can go on spending sprees without consequence, and it’s the bankers fault when the consequences come due. Jason thinks he can put anything down his slimy throat or up his puckered anus without consequence, and we have to pay for him when those consequences come due.
Comment by Pablo on 11/19 @ 12:58 pm #
Did Beauchamp say he was guilty, snotty?
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 1:43 pm #
Jason got his marching orders, good wittle footsoldier. Alphie is defending a serial fabulist. Pretty much a normal day.
Comment by J."Trashman" Peden on 11/19 @ 1:49 pm #
Interesting to note that are so happy to hurl the accusation of socialist and communist at people they don’t agree with but are more than happy to support communist China by shopping at Walmart where almost every manufactured item is from China.
As proven, capitalistic principles raise standards of living/create wealth and are actually a powerful form of diplomacy which encourages peace and more capitalism instead of poverty and war. Communism and extreme Socialism do the opposite.
Jason, you need to try to catch up with “the curve” instead of staying so resolutely behind it – or wherever in hell the Progressive fantasy world is. So does Obama, also as proven.
Comment by Dr Gerald Click on 11/19 @ 1:55 pm #
Ahh, yes… Jerry Brown.He gives a bad name to the name “Jerry.”
Many years ago my wife was friends with Snowflakes sister (they were neighbors.) His sister is apparently normal.
Comment by B Moe on 11/19 @ 1:58 pm #
William Jefferson got convicted of corruption. Any other Democrat Congressman we accuse of corruption will now obviously be guilty.
I like this new Snowcone logic!
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/19 @ 2:04 pm #
yet Senate Republicans rushed to block legislation to stop credit card interest rate hikes
What reduces consumption? Price. Keep prices (in this case the price of risk) low and consumption will outrun production and production will be witheld from the artificial market or find its way to the black market. Price controls are a good example.
Oh and it works the other way too. Make something too expensive via taxation and it will find itself into the black market where it will change hands with no taxes being collected. Cigarettes is a good example.
So why block the ability of the market to find its equilibrium? Its a rhetorical question, Jason.
See Soviet Socialist Republics, Union of, for a definitive case study.
Peace out.
Comment by Squid on 11/19 @ 2:42 pm #
Is Snowy really going back to the “Fake But Accurate” well? I thought that thing ran dry ages ago.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 3:24 pm #
I thought that thing ran dry ages ago.
Well, until the guys accusing Beauchamp of lying got convicted of mass murder.
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 11/19 @ 3:30 pm #
What about air rifle pellets? Those things are solid lead.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 3:42 pm #
Well, until the guys accusing Beauchamp of lying got convicted of mass murder.
I see that one (not all, not even two) of the guys Beauchamp worked with got convicted of something I don’t believe Beauchamp ever mentioned happening. I find it hard to believe that Scotty would have failed to mention this had he witnessed or even heard about it. So it doesn’t really do anything to his credibility, does it?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 3:56 pm #
So it doesn’t really do anything to his credibility, does it?
Let’s see ,Beauchamp accused his comrades of:
1. Making fun of a scarred food server.
2. Messing around with some bones
3. Running over dogs
All of which we were told by very serious wingnuts were not things the super patriots serving in Iraq would ever, ever do!
Now it turns out these same guys were gunning down Iraqi civilians for sport.
I’d say that gives Beauchamp a big boost in cred.
Comment by Makewi on 11/19 @ 4:09 pm #
All of which we were told by very serious wingnuts were not things the super patriots serving in Iraq would ever, ever do!
ORLY? I suppose you can back this up with an actual serious wingnut making such a claim?
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 4:14 pm #
Oh for the love of Allah. Alphie is trying to out-estupido meya again.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 4:16 pm #
I’d say that gives Beauchamp a big boost in cred.
Uh, why?
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 11/19 @ 4:17 pm #
From the link that dipshit… I mean snowcone… provided:
Hardly sounds like they were “gunning down Iraqi civilians for sport”. And does ZIP ZERO NADA to support Beauchamp’s accusations.
God, what an lying, ignorant tool snowcone is. Though only slightly worse than Beauchamp.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 4:30 pm #
Hardly sounds like they were “gunning down Iraqi civilians for sport”. </i.
Do you really think “our fallen soldiers” give a rat’s ass what we do in this life?
That’s worse than killing someone because you think your monkey god told you to.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 4:39 pm #
Do you really think “our fallen soldiers” give a rat’s ass what we do in this life?
Possibly. I’m pretty sure the rest are trying to avoid the “fallen” adjective, though, hence the eagerness not to play insurgent whack-a-mole.
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 4:40 pm #
Alphie appears to be getting agitated again. Not long until he wishes harm to Danger, RTO, and LtC John. It is what is does.
Comment by royf on 11/19 @ 4:46 pm #
snowcone you are a low information “useful idiot”. Even if I agreed with your ridiculous theory that somehow the Staff Sargent’s testimony about that scumbag Beauchamp was somehow tainted by the fact he got tired of letting go the terrorists which were killing his fellow soldiers. It doesn’t change the testimony of the other eleven soldiers which also said Beauchamp was a lying sack of shit.
You are easily fooled but that is obvious, just look at the loser ideology you support and the thug and criminals you claim as you political heros.
Comment by maggie katzen on 11/19 @ 4:49 pm #
so, has he been licking the Dora the Explorer Activity Tote or the Barbie Bike Flair Accessory Kit?
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 4:50 pm #
I think it is mainlining lead paint, maggie.
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 11/19 @ 4:50 pm #
That loud boom you just heard snowcone was the point of my comment going over your head at Mach 4.
Do you really think “our fallen soldiers” give a rat’s ass what we do in this life?
Two points about this statement, douchenozzle:
1. You clearly mean “your fallen soldiers” rather than “our fallen soldiers”, since your “super patriots serving in Iraq” (as well as numerous past comments) make it abundantly clear that you claim no allegiance to our men and women in uniform who have often made the ultimate sacrifice for their country and their fellow troops.
2. WTF are you even trying to say? Come back when you can craft coherent in-context sentences.
That’s worse than killing someone because you think your monkey god told you to.
Sure, taking the law into your own hands and killing someone out of a sense of frustration because you believe that they will not be punished for their crimes and will likely go on to kill innocent civilians as well as your fellow comrades is exactly the same as killing infidels because your local religious leader told you to so’s you can get yourself some virgin hoochies in Paradise.
Idiot.
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 4:53 pm #
Alphie is rooting for the terrorists, Dave. Once you understand that, the rest is easier to follow.
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 11/19 @ 4:53 pm #
so, has he been licking the Dora the Explorer Activity Tote or the Barbie Bike Flair Accessory Kit?
My money’s on the Reversible Croco Belt in suppository form.
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 4:55 pm #
http://tinyurl.com/yjdrmce
Killing mercilessly for religious devotion. Remember?
Comment by SBP on 11/19 @ 4:56 pm #
I’m thinking the Paula Fuschia Open-Toes Shoes. They make him feel so…pretty.
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 5:04 pm #
As someone pointed out earlier, alphie prolly eats lead paint chips for breakfast, with milk, sprinkled with asbestos.
Comment by SDN on 11/19 @ 5:21 pm #
That’s why I keep Snowy ‘hammered as a mater of course.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 5:53 pm #
killing infidels because your local religious leader told you to so’s you can get yourself some virgin hoochies in Paradise.
Don’t the terrorists believe they are punishing people for crimes they’ve gotten away with just like the Beauchamp accusers wee doing, roy?
Comment by Makewi on 11/19 @ 5:58 pm #
You have to give snowy credit, intentionally being this stupid takes some doing.
Comment by Rusty on 11/19 @ 6:01 pm #
#55
He’s the reason there’s warning labels on buckets and ladders.
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 6:12 pm #
Makewi – It is a special kind of stoopid. Short bus kind of stoopid. The kind that should hurt.
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 6:21 pm #
When they put the warning label on irons that say “do not use while wearing the clothes”, they have alphie and meya in mind. Same with the “do not drink” on the gasoline containers.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 7:03 pm #
Don’t the terrorists believe they are punishing people for crimes they’ve gotten away with just like the Beauchamp accusers wee doing, roy?
Not likely, but let’s assume you’re right. Are we to say that because A feels B is wrong and B feels likewise about A, that they are morally equivalent? Does it make a difference if A is an FBI agent and B is a Klansman? An armed robber and a shopkeeper? A jihadi and an American soldier?
Or do we just keep pulling back until all moral distinctions are blurred?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 7:08 pm #
Or do we just keep pulling back until all moral distinctions are blurred?
Let’s just say if you kill somebody with a bullet to the back of the head whilst they are bound and blindfolded , you probably aren’t standing on the moral high ground, Jeff.
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 7:11 pm #
No, let’s don’t. The mere description of blindfolds and bullets comes nowhere near the question Jeffersonian asked.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 7:14 pm #
Well, I see no difference between the murdering troops from Beauchamp’s unit and the 9/11 terrorists.
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 7:17 pm #
That, snowcone, isn’t surprising (nor is it informative) in the least. And still doesn’t approach any sort of answer to the question Jeffersonian formulated.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 7:21 pm #
Let’s just say if you kill somebody with a bullet to the back of the head whilst they are bound and blindfolded , you probably aren’t standing on the moral high ground, Jeff.
That would largely depend on whether some due process preceded the bullet, no? In a war zone, non-uniformed combatants are, by definition, spies and can be summarily dispatched. This soldier’s crime, it would seem, was to short-cut what little due process was to be afforded the four insurgents. On the other side, it’s probably also true that the military’s refusal to provide a credible due process to deal with such people.
So yes, you’re right that the soldier broke the law. Whether what he did was criminal is not entirely clear.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 7:23 pm #
Well, I see no difference between the murdering troops from Beauchamp’s unit and the 9/11 terrorists.
And you had just shown a glimmer of moral reasoning, too. I shoulda known better.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 7:25 pm #
The mere description of blindfolds and bullets comes nowhere near the question Jeffersonian asked.
True, he dodged the issue, but one finds little nuggets of rationality wherever one can.
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 7:25 pm #
To say nothing of the cases wherein the law itself is criminal, or perhaps better, simply immoral. Where, for instance, we think Einsatzgruppen.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 7:27 pm #
Murder is murder, Jeff.
Unless you think 9/11 was a hate crime?
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 7:28 pm #
Tautologies from the tautological. Very good snowcone, now run along.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 8:25 pm #
Murder is murder, Jeff.
Well, yeah. But as I pointed out above, what this guy did was pretty close to not being murder insofar as these were almost certainly unlawful combatants and thus not protected by the Geneva Conventions. They were engaged in immediate, direct hostitlities against our troops. What he lacked for this to be perfectly lawful was a short process whereby the detainees would have been deemed as spies and thus subject to immediate execution.
If you don’t see the difference between this situation and the killing of 3,000 people not even remotely engaged in violence against those who killed them, I don’t think I can tutor you in such basic moral reasoning.
Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 8:32 pm #
Alphie hates you, and all that we stand for. Sooner you accept that, the better. Mock and scorn. Point and laugh.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 8:48 pm #
Al-phee knows that the enemy is here at home, in the form of anyone that has any concept of authority outside of the dictates of the left wing Hive and its shabby deity, the Central State. In that, he’s a standard-issue port sider.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 9:00 pm #
what this guy did was pretty close to not being murder
I disagree.
The most dangerous freaks in the world are the self righteous ones.
The U.S. military disagrees, too, btw.
Comment by Pablo on 11/19 @ 9:01 pm #
I think it was an act of war. But now that Holder has decided that it was a crime, does he think it’s a hate crime? Or just a man made disaster?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 9:18 pm #
I disagree.
The most dangerous freaks in the world are the self righteous ones.
The U.S. military disagrees, too, btw.
You don’t have enough information to claim the US military is in lockstep with your view. As I said, what this guy did is within the technical definition of murder, but just barely. He executed four people who were almost certainly unlawful combatants, something even the Geneva Conventions permit. That he did so without the minimal due process required by military law is what got him a murder conviction. One not need be “self-righteous” to recognize this.
Comment by B Moe on 11/19 @ 9:27 pm #
But the ones who lack all self awareness are the funniest.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 9:34 pm #
That he did so without the minimal due process…
Haha, The 9/11 terrorists were a little lacking in the duew process department, too.
Comment by Pablo on 11/19 @ 9:41 pm #
Was 9/11 a hate crime, snotty? Don’t take too long. We really need to know, because we’ve got a trial coming up.
Comment by Rusty on 11/19 @ 9:46 pm #
There are no rules in war. That’s why it’s called war. You want rules? You want morality? Play chess.
Comment by Pablo on 11/19 @ 10:00 pm #
That was then. Rusty. This is now. The rules just changed.
Elections have consequences.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 10:06 pm #
That was then. Rusty. This is now
Huh?
The U.S. Military would have executed these guys if they’ll pulled their stunt during WWII.
Comment by sdferr on 11/19 @ 10:07 pm #
Oh bullshit snowcone. You haven’t any idea what you’re talking about as usual.
Comment by Pablo on 11/19 @ 10:10 pm #
Dude, we just extended Constitutional protections to one of America’s greatest enemies and the guy most responsible for the largest loss of American life in any attack on this country, ever.
War? Huh?
That rulebook you’re thinking of has been shelved. Archived, even.
Comment by Pablo on 11/19 @ 10:12 pm #
Oh, and we did that while he was perfectly willing to plead guilty and die. For his cause, Allahu akbar.
But apparently, we’re too good for all of that.
Comment by Pablo on 11/19 @ 10:16 pm #
Cite, snotty?
And I’ll ask again because we really need to know. Was 9/11 a hate crime?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/19 @ 10:45 pm #
Haha, The 9/11 terrorists were a little lacking in the duew process department, too.
Snark won’t cut it, Snowy. You either understand the difference or you’re as morally squalid as everyone says. Dishonest or diseased, take your pick.
Comment by SDN on 11/19 @ 11:05 pm #
Snowblower, go do a Google search on “biscari sicily peiper”. That one involved uniformed Axis soldiers (you know, the kind actually entitled to Geneva Convention protection). The Army didn’t shoot anyone.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 11:56 pm #
You either understand the difference or you’re as morally squalid as everyone says.
Morally squalid is thinking just because some freak of nature is wearing a uniform they should be able to kill whomever they like.
Odds are these morons executed 4 innocent people.
That’s why the army locked ‘em up for 40 years.
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Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/20 @ 1:50 am #
Morally squalid is thinking just because some freak of nature is wearing a uniform they should be able to kill whomever they like.
Odds are these morons executed 4 innocent people.
Innocent guys that just happen to be hanging out around a weapons cache.
Comment by B Moe on 11/20 @ 5:48 am #
They got locked up for violating procedure, their guilt does not confirm or even imply their victims innocence. If you had even a sliver of honesty in that void of a soul you would care about this.
Comment by royf on 11/20 @ 5:56 am #
Comment by Snowcone on 11/19 @ 5:53 pm
Don’t the terrorists believe they are punishing people for crimes they’ve gotten away with just like the Beauchamp accusers wee doing, roy?
Look retard Beauchamp was doing the accusing not the other way around.
And I will never enter into a logical discussion with you, You are either too ignorant or just completely dishonest to have a real conversation with. Your just a talking point spout, more commonly known as a “useful idiot”.
Comment by Rusty on 11/20 @ 6:17 am #
The U.S. Military would have executed these guys if they’ll pulled their stunt during WWII.
Nope. See the USMC on just about any Pacific Island, or Airborn troopers in Normandy.
Comment by Rusty on 11/20 @ 6:23 am #
#84
Whenever there are troops on the ground, in harms way, it will always be about survival.Politics not withstanding.
Comment by LTC John on 11/20 @ 7:30 am #
Another thread derailed and shot by the TTP. Just keep giving it the attention it craves folks, and this is the future of every thread on this blog.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/20 @ 10:37 am #
their guilt does not confirm or even imply their victims innocence
Maybe not, but the fact that they were handcuffed and blindfolded when they were shot in the back of the head shot means the Beauchamp accusers were guilty of murder.
Comment by JD on 11/20 @ 10:45 am #
Which has exactly nothing to do with the fact that Beauchamp, and alphie-by-proxy, are serial fabulists.
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