One hundred billion dollars in about ten months. Ten billion dollars a month.
Improper payments by the U.S. government to people, firms and contractors rose sharply to $98 billion in fiscal 2009 and President Barack Obama plans new rules to clamp down, the White House said Tuesday.
Falling just short of blaming the previous Administration, you have to love Reuters, as the entire piece is cast in the light that these “mistakes” need only A One to set then straight. Fortunately for us, the Democrat President Barack Obama is the just-in-time guy to reign in Democrat Pelosi-Reid stimulus machinery. Note that breathless “and” inserted betwixt failure and Obama in the above.
At the moment, all recipients have to do is return the money.
Excellent news, that. Which, if all one hundred billion dollars were “returned”, would be, well, let’s let Democrat Senator Tim Carper explain.
“Unfortunately, these numbers may still be just the tip of the iceberg since they don’t even include estimates for several major programs, including the Medicare prescription drug plan,” Carper said in a statement.
Yes, the prescription drug plan is itself eighteen billion dollars upside down, Senator Carper. Shall we consider collectivizing the entire medical sector?
Thanks to my recent conversion to progressive political enlightenment, I find this all a minor inconvenience. After all, if you’re gonna make omelets the Administration after, all you need do is break a national economy.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 8:12 am #
I blame Bush.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 8:20 am #
Watch Barcky try to count this as savings.
Comment by No one you know on 11/18 @ 8:42 am #
Wait, I thought the man put Sheriff Joe in charge of this and nobody messes with Joe.
And Carper, nitwit #2 from my home state. Same guy who trumpeted the “Ain’t broke, don’t fix it” with regards to FannieMae/FreddieMac way back when the Repubs wanted to, ummmmmmmmmmm, change the regulations for said entities in 2003. Day late and dollar short, that Carper is.
Comment by SBP on 11/18 @ 8:47 am #
#2: just think of all the “jobs” “created” by those improper payments!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/18 @ 8:49 am #
OOOO OOOO, where’s snotspill?
More good news:
“Quinnipiac poll: Obama now under 50% approval”
“Rasmussen has had Barack Obama under water for weeks on job-approval ratings, but usually they’re a leading indicator. Quinnipiac now shows the same trend, with Obama dropping below 50% approval for the first time in their poll series.”
Via Hot Air:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/quinnipiac-poll-obama-now-under-50-approval/
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/18 @ 8:51 am #
Even better:
“Dems alarmed as independents bolt”
“…a flurry of new polls makes clear that Democrats are facing deeper problems with independents—the swing voters who swung dramatically toward the party in 2006 and 2008 but who now are registering deep unease with the amount of spending and debt called for under Obama’s agenda in an era of one-party rule in Washington.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29646.html
YOOOO HOOOO, snotspill!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!!!
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 9:01 am #
Now, Now, Mr. O’Brain! You know that Baghdad Alphie will be by to talk about wingnut dog whistles and Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee and the improving economy that continues to shed jobs like St. Bernard in July. It’s all good even as the tanks surround his basement and the tramp of heavy boots ring upon the stairs.
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 9:10 am #
-14
Comment by Joe on 11/18 @ 9:13 am #
That might explain the jump in gold prices.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/18 @ 9:13 am #
-14
Ouch.
Where’s snotspill?
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 9:13 am #
Thanks for that link, Pablo. That dovetails nicely with the Quinnipiac poll.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 9:16 am #
BTW, Pablo, does it still sting, just a little? ;-)
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 9:25 am #
No, I’m busy hating Eric Holder right now.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 9:26 am #
The emptiness of Holder’s arguments result in his having to call everyone opposed to his decision a coward. Stunning.
Comment by bigbooner on 11/18 @ 9:28 am #
Holder makes Janet Reno look good.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 9:29 am #
Baghdad Alphie insists that Quinnipiac and Rasmussen are evil tools of Republican Wingnuts and Obama’s favorables are awesomely high and there are no Humvees outside his house, only taxi cabs and street vendors.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 9:29 am #
Barack Obama is a lying piece of shit what is wrecking our little country and screwing poor people besides.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 9:30 am #
And now it’s “I’ve got special classified knowledge you haven’t got. Nyah-nyah, nyah-nyah, you can’t catch me!”
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/18 @ 9:34 am #
B-B-But, Jho, this isn’t Change! I can believe in…
It’s more of that “new kind of politics”, I guess…
I just don’t know how much more of that “new kind of politics” our country can afford…
Comment by DarthRove on 11/18 @ 9:36 am #
Every time I hear that number, all I can think of is Dr. Evil planning to ransom the world for One Hundred! Bill-ee-yun! Dollars! MuWAAhahahahahaaaaa!
Comment by Joe on 11/18 @ 9:44 am #
But the President’s motives are “pure” so it is all good, even if things fall apart.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 9:45 am #
This administration and Congress is engaging in nothing less than a ginormous Ponzi scheme, the extent of which makes Bernie Madow’s transgressions look like a sidewalk side three card Monte.
We are all going to pay through the ass if they are allowed to succeed.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/18 @ 9:49 am #
“Holder makes Janet Reno look good.”
Obama makes Jimmy Carter look good.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 9:52 am #
Now we have Republican lawyers who wrote supportive letters during Holder’s confirmation hearings expressing varying degrees of buyer’s remorse.
YA THINK?!?!
Comment by Joe on 11/18 @ 9:53 am #
The economy is going down and Obama seems ready to keep digging.
Meanwhile, look! Chick Fight! Ana Marie Cox, Rachel Maddow, and Nicole Walace talk about their favorite Alaskan.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 9:54 am #
You only hate Holder because he is black, RACISTS !!!
Comment by Roland THTG on 11/18 @ 9:55 am #
A Nation of Fuckwits* elected a Fuckwit to the highest office in the land.
Now we are starting to understand the price to be paid.
*Well, at least 52% Fuckwit and other inert ingredients anyway.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 9:57 am #
Joe – Which one of those is supposed to be a chick? ;-)
Comment by Snowcone on 11/18 @ 10:00 am #
[I'm still trolling]
Comment by geoffb on 11/18 @ 10:12 am #
Holder still has some work to do on that. He hasn’t gassed and burned woman and children yet nor sent a young child into slavery. The fallout from trying KSM and company in NYC civil court will most assuredly put him over the top. It is Holder’s “Great Leap Forward”. Others are working on “The Cultural Revolution”.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 10:14 am #
Baghdad alphie press conference: “Look! Bunnies in Afghanistan!! Oh and those canisters spewing smoke in my basement are not tear gas! Honest. It’s air freshener!”
[COUGH]
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 10:19 am #
And how is that useful in federal court but not in a military commission?
Oh, they couldn’t use it in the military commission because they were getting guilty pleas. And you can’t put the CI on the stand if there isn’t going to be a jury trial.
Thank God we’re going to get all sorts of JUSTICE!!! instead of accepting guilty pleas and executing the sons of bitches. Greta van Susteren is gonna dig it.
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 10:20 am #
A
There. Stick that wherever you like.
Comment by EJ D on 11/18 @ 10:20 am #
We’re pissing away $170 billion in Afghanistan this year.
Hardly pissing away. That money has gone towards saving thousands of jobs.
Now, they’re fed jobs, but still, the stimulus is working!
Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 10:25 am #
While the little president man focuses on wrecking health care people are losing jobs and becoming government-dependent peasants at the fastest rate in my whole life. Our little country deserves better than this malevolent tool I think.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/18 @ 10:26 am #
We’re pissing away $170 billion in Afghanistan this year.
Why does snowcone want to increase unemployment by killing jobs for poor people with limited opportunities? Why does he hate minorities with the racist fervor of a Bull Connor/David Duke frankensteinian mixture?
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 10:38 am #
The heartbreak that is Sarah Palin as she starts her book tour amid all of the negative press from Newsweek and others and response is lacking in Michigan during her first stop…
Oh, wait …
Comment by Snowcone on 11/18 @ 10:49 am #
That money has gone towards saving thousands of jobs.
Not really.
It costs the American taxpayers $1 million to send a single soldier to Afghanistan for a year.
That same money could fund 40-50 decent jobs here in America.
Comment by Squid on 11/18 @ 10:50 am #
Snowy can’t tell the difference between money spent on policies he doesn’t support, versus money lost through waste and fraud. If he could tell the difference between policy disagreements and outright fraud, he’d realize that his so-called “argument” is easily refuted by anyone who cares to point out the truly massive amounts wasted on welfare programs that do little apart from ensuring the continuing power of government officials who are determined to keep large voting blocs dependent on their largesse.
It’s of a piece with all the other things Snowy doesn’t understand, on account of his nuance deficiency.
Comment by Squid on 11/18 @ 10:54 am #
Oh, Snowy, you never fail to amuse. A million dollars divided by 40 or 50 means that you have “decent” jobs that pay $20,000-25,000 per year. And that’s total compensation, which means that these “decent” jobs would pay maybe half that when you take out taxes and benefits.
I realize that $20,000 is more than the allowance Mom gives you, but that doesn’t make it a decent job.
Comment by cranky-d on 11/18 @ 10:55 am #
I think the list of things that snowball understands is much smaller than the list of things it does not understand. It’s probably easier to work from that assumption.
Just trying to help, cuz I’m a helper!
Comment by Squid on 11/18 @ 10:57 am #
Oh, wait. I got ahead of myself. I forgot that in Snowy’s world, the idea is to “give” people jobs that keep them dependent on subsidized housing, subsidized child-care, subsidized public transport, subsidized school lunches, and subsidized health care.
Can’t have people freeing themselves from their government shackles, now, can we?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/18 @ 11:05 am #
[Oops. More trolling.]
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/18 @ 11:06 am #
Comment by Snowcone on 11/18 @ 10:49 am #
-14
Learn it.
Love it.
Fold it up until it’s all corners and shove it up your ass.
-14.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/18 @ 11:07 am #
Comment by Snowcone on 11/18 @ 11:05 am #
-14, snotspill, -14.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/18 @ 11:08 am #
Why is snowcone so full of hate? Hate makes baby Gandhi cry.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/18 @ 11:08 am #
“If what the U.S. military has been doing in Afghanistan these past 8 years isn’t fraud, nothing is.”
And your MOS was….what, Belisarius?
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 11:09 am #
Even more amusing, Squid, is Baghdad alphie’s assumption that the government, possessed of a million dollars, will spend it in such a way to actually create 40-50 jobs. Especially with stimulus spending running at about $700,000 per job “created or saved” even at the Obama Admins. bloated and fantastical reckonings.
Such blind faith in government efficiency and honesty. And yet such piss poor math skillz.
Not as amusing as Mile High Dirt Berms© but good for a chortle.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/18 @ 11:09 am #
“Why is snowcone so full of hate?”
He hates little brown people.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 11:14 am #
Baby Buddha weeps.
Really.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 11:18 am #
it’s like soviet fucking russia all over again except backwards
our little country is not in good hands
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 11:20 am #
How’s the yam supply, hf?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 11:21 am #
I dunno but I’m hoarding.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 11:21 am #
“Such blind faith in government efficiency and honesty. And yet such piss poor math skillz.”
Christ, they all suck at math. Al Gore thinks the Earth’s core temp is “a couple million degrees”.
The man got a Nobel.
For science!
Comment by SPC Jack Klompus on 11/18 @ 11:25 am #
“If what the U.S. military has been doing in Afghanistan these past 8 years isn’t fraud, nothing is.”
You, of course, as a member of the military (with what MOS again?) know exactly what they’ve been “doing” over there, right? Seriously, name one thing you’ve ever accomplished in your mediocre life since we know overcoming virginity isn’t one of them.
Comment by Matt on 11/18 @ 11:28 am #
Not sure if anyone heard this on Hannity last night but I found it interesting and potentially problematic for Holder and the Administration. Apparently, Holder’s prior firm represented a number of the Gitmo detainees and/or potential terrorist suspects. So first, we have a Attorney General who’s firm is in the business of defending the very people Holder is supposed to be locking away and second, whose prior firm stands to profit significantly from US criminal trials. Stateside criminal trials are much less succinct and more open to delay and showboating than a military trial. A criminal trial here obviously gives counsel for defendant’s significantly more fees the longer the trial goes on and encourages them to throw out whatever smokescreen they want to in order to defend their clients/scumbags. Plus, those lawyers, at the firm who Holder was a senior partner, will be paid by our tax dollars so Holder’s friends will stand to gain considerably.
Conflict of interest? Ya think?
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 11:35 am #
Uh, no. According to the White House, and based on the fantasy that we’ve “created or saved” 640K jobs, those puppies run $92,000 each.
Comment by Squid on 11/18 @ 11:46 am #
I’m honestly surprised that the White House hasn’t put a bullet in Tapper yet. I hope he’s taking precautions.
Comment by Squid on 11/18 @ 11:48 am #
And by “honestly,” I mean “tongue-in-cheek.”
Wouldn’t want any of our extra-sensitive trolls thinking that I was ascribing sinister deeds to our Dear Leader now, would I?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 11:50 am #
Mr. Tapper never goes home the same way as he did the night before.
Comment by Matt on 11/18 @ 12:10 pm #
Holder’s spinning his ass off on Capital Hill.
We’re showing the world our “justice system” and we’ll be happy with the outcome because KSM will be convicted and executed. Innocent until proven guilty is a foreign concept to our Attorney General apparently. And that legal principle is the freaking basis of our justice system.
W. T. F.
Comment by J."Trashman" Peden on 11/18 @ 12:15 pm #
-14
“Creating Bitter Clingers like never before!”, eh?
Comment by geoffb on 11/18 @ 12:53 pm #
I had a thought this morning on this trial. Rush danced up to it but stopped and went to the line that everyone is taking.
What if the object is to bring about a “change” in our criminal justice system, in terrorism cases, so that they can be done in the manner of the Military Tribunals. Either by changing the rules in this case to get the conviction or losing the case and channeling the outrage into changing the rules. Just for those terrorists of course. Later the definition of who and what is a terrorist can be changed quietly.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 12:56 pm #
Dude.
Comment by geoffb on 11/18 @ 1:01 pm #
Well it is a fact that the left always telegraphs what they will try to do by accusing conservatives of doing it first.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 1:10 pm #
I dunno man. Seems like the very idea could become a Catch-22, no? We advance the notion that these fuckers are plotting to subvert the American Judicial system and they turn around and prove us right by labeling us terrorists? Scooby Doo! Ruh-roh.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 1:12 pm #
Matt, geoffb and/or sdferr – Did Holder maintain that this was his decision, and his alone?
Comment by Pawn on 11/18 @ 1:14 pm #
All they have to do then is declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization and rule forever! Or for as long as their ammo holds out.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 1:15 pm #
Read this, JD. According to this account, yes:
So BK is positing that Barry could plausibly over-rule Holder. I don’t see it myself.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 1:22 pm #
Words kind of fail, sometimes, sdferr.
Comment by geoffb on 11/18 @ 1:31 pm #
I thought that Homeland Security has already done so months ago.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 1:46 pm #
geoffb, JD & sdferr,
Andy McCarthy has been all over this. His comment on global jesus’s latest KSM facepalm is here.
Sweet. Fancy. Moses.
Hey Harvard. That law school thing you guys got?
You suck at it.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 1:52 pm #
Obama: “IF! I said IF! Not when, never said when. Never.”
Comment by Danger on 11/18 @ 2:03 pm #
Joe – Which one of those is supposed to be a chick? ;-)
Now that is funny
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 2:17 pm #
geoffb, what do you think of the theory that Obama’s political credibility (are we supposed to say Brand, these days?) is undergoing a metaphorical sublimation akin to the physical sublimation ice undergoes in the Artic, for instance, passing directly from the solid state to the vaporous gaseous state without pausing to liquefy in the interim?
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 2:17 pm #
Sweet baby jesus, they are amateurs. Holder essentially said the same thing at the hearing today, no? Did Chuck Todd ask Barcky why Holder made this decision without input from the White House? Did they ask him why Gov Paterson was informed of the chance of this happening in April, but not announcing it until after the elections?
Comment by Matt on 11/18 @ 2:21 pm #
I assume since Obama “didn’t have anything to do with this decision,” if things get really bad in terms of publicity, he can throw Holder under the bus with grandma, wright, ayers, etc. I don’t foresee the issue getting anymore popular but I can easily see it get progressively unpopular. One of the diehard libs in my office, who thinks Obama is doing a “great job,” said he “didn’t care whether they tried KSM in New York” which is as close as he’s ever coming to admitting any of Obama’s idea weren’t “inspired by god”.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 2:23 pm #
Such loose talk from Barry would probably be just as bad in the event these murderous fucks were tried before Military Commissions JD. I think it has something to do with an idea they call command influence or some such name. Same reason the Gen down at Ft. Hood can’t talk publicly (or privately even probably) about his opinions of the murder guy, as his speech could be taken to influence members in the chain of command below him. Barry stands in just that position to all members of the Armed Services. But he’s such an idiot, he probably forgets now and then.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 2:29 pm #
Global Jesus / Dr Utopia / Teh One is the smartest President EVAH !!!!!
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 2:30 pm #
I bet TOTUS is going to get the ball-gag and cat o’nine tails in the near future. Can’t let Barcky look like an idiot.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 2:37 pm #
…”akin to the physical sublimation ice undergoes in the Artic, for instance, passing directly from the solid state to the vaporous gaseous state without pausing to liquefy in the interim?”
I didn’t know that happened.
No wonder Polar Bears are crying.
Polar Bear 1: “Let’s go eat baby seals”
Polar Bear 2: “Too tired”
Polar Bear 1: “What the hell is wrong with you?”
Polar Bear 2: “Exhausted”…
Polar Bear 1: “You were trying to hump that fat chick over by the glacier!”
Polar Bear 2: “No! I was out on an ice flow…almost got me a fur seal.”
Polar Bear 1: “And…”
Polar Bear 2: “Goddamn thing evaporated!”
Polar Bear 2: “The seal?”
Polar Bear 1: “No! The ice flow jackass! Floatin’ one minute, swimmin’ the next. I had two swim three miles to get back here. Asshole whales laughing at me the whole time”
Polar Bear 2: “Fucking Al Gore”
Polar Bear 1″ “God I hate that guy”
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/18 @ 2:39 pm #
The trial of KSM is simply a Potemkin village. The real trial is that of the Bush Administration – so as to keep the left base happy and the easily titillated distracted.
Comment by geoffb on 11/18 @ 2:41 pm #
So sdferr, are you intimating that O! is dry ice? He could be “The One” causing AGW then.
Now to work since I still apparently have a job, making me a minority in Michigan.
Comment by Squid on 11/18 @ 2:43 pm #
So, a quick look at the Dollar Index over at Bloomberg shows me that the dollar is down from 80 in June to 75 now. We should start a pool on when the dollar will dip below its all-time lowest point of 70.698, which it achieved about a year after Pelosi & Friends took over the economy.
I’m guessing that it’ll hold on ’til January, when the preliminary Christmas retail numbers start coming in.
But hey — the dollar-denominated stock market will be like twenty gazillion, so everything will be just fine!
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 2:46 pm #
Well, not so much him as his credibility, but yeah, like dry ice would fit the example perfectly well, better than say, a frost-free icebox.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 2:48 pm #
Lybd – That was a riot.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 2:54 pm #
OTT: I have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that Holder and Obama are both that devious and that stupid.
Honestly, I can’t see what positive political benefits stream from this decision. Even if we take the darkest conspiracy notion that this is merely an opportunity to besmirch Bush and Republicans the outcome is fraught with danger for our smartest Administration Evah! Are they really betting on the proposition that if KSM and his thugs are found innocent due to evidence being tossed that the voters are going to blame Bush? That seems like a dummass play to me, especially when people realize that Bush would have definitely tried them in Military Tribunals.
For the life of me I don’t see the “win” here at all and perceive all kinds of toxic fallout for Dr. Utopia and the Unicornettes.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 3:05 pm #
Lybd: Now if the polar bear had been humping The Goracle … ;-)
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 3:11 pm #
“Dr. Utopia”
That struck me funny.
A few months ago I was pretty scared of Obama and what he could inflict on this nation and it’s citizens. Not so much anymore. Maybe Jimmy Carter x 2, but not the plague/ famine / death apocalypse I’d thought.
With each day he seems more like the Monarch. An angry, narcissistic, shiftless idiot, surrounding himself with a bunch of retarded, incompetent henchmen, and, I guess, Pelosi as Dr. Girlfriend.
“Dr. Utopia”. I wonder if that name is already taken in the Guild of Calamitous Intent?
Oh. And y’all will either get all that or you won’t.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/18 @ 3:12 pm #
BJ – being on the left side of the bellcurve of “stupid and devious” hasn’t stopped them yet. The whole administration has been one rolling exercise of “Oh, they aren’t gonna go there/do that, are they?” and “What are they possibly thinking?”
Precedence. Just saying.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 3:12 pm #
Man/Bear/Pig BJTexs, Man/Bear/Pig.
And even polar bears have standards.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 3:15 pm #
“Not so much anymore.”
See, that’s what the theory holds LYBD, he vaporizes without people even necessarily noticing, though you happen to have. Not everyone will.
Citizen A: Did you vote for Obama?
Obama voter: Who?
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 3:20 pm #
Wow, this is interesting. JD above was wondering if holder was sticking to the “this is my decision, not the Presidents” meme. John Ashcroft just came out and blasted Holder, saying that he didn’t have the authority to remove the defendants from the Dept. of Defense without Presidential orders.
Comment by newrouter on 11/18 @ 3:24 pm #
did david axelrod’s monster do anything stupid today
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 3:31 pm #
sdferr,
So what you’re saying is…I’m not going to get my free gas and rent money from promise boy?
Well ok.
But the seas are still going to lower, and everybody is gonna hold hands across the globe (except for maybe in the Middle East), and all the dogs and cats are gonna snuggle together, and I still get my Skittle shitin’ obama autographed unicorn, right?
Right?
Oh…
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 3:33 pm #
“did david axelrod’s monster do anything stupid today”
It got out of bed. So… presumably yes.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 3:37 pm #
MKH:
Has anyone got any idea what kind of evidence it is that can be introduced in Art. 3 court but which cannot be introduced in a Military Commission?
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 3:47 pm #
Ouch. And damn, I didn’t see this before and hence had no idea how smug AG Holder appeared.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 3:48 pm #
sdferr: Also from your link:
WTF?!
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 3:50 pm #
It is easier to conduct a show trial in the criminal courts. That is all, sdferr.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 3:53 pm #
Is Eric Holder familiar with the jurisprudence of America you think?
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/18 @ 3:54 pm #
WTF?!
I’m tellin ya, its gonna be all about allowing KSM to grandstand a bit and claim:
TOORRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTUURE
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
CCCCCCCHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNEY
SHit is hitting the fan on all other fronts for the Assmidistration. The meme is when the going gets tough – just bash Bush.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 3:54 pm #
That makes no sense at all, so far as I can see, insofar as there is no problem introducing evidence into a MC that can be introduced into Art3 Court.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 3:56 pm #
For the mostest qualified and competent AG EVAH! he sure does not instill much confidence in re. his competency, does he?
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 3:56 pm #
Wow, sdferr. I have plenty of problems with Graham in general but man, oh man, he just savaged Holder. He was right, too, especially with his bin laden example.
Well done, Senator!
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 4:00 pm #
Yeah, BJT, Graham’s trial lawyer chops were put to good use right there. It’s one of the few things I know of that he does pretty well.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 4:00 pm #
#97
That’s disgusting. It’s a bit of a “trust me” thing, I suppose? Really?! On what grounds does she or any of us trust you asshole? “Trust me”? That’s the kinda thing a 19 year old kid says to a girl just after he whispers, “Just the tip. I promise”.
When this thing goes south (WHEN, not “if”), Holder needs to get his own 4 x 8 cement condo on the back end and President “Present” needs to get fitted for an impeachment suit.
With nice creases in the trousers of course.
Because that makes David Brooks go all fucking rubbery.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/18 @ 4:02 pm #
That having been said … why did Graham feel the need, in the middle of his most excellent scorching, to inject the “…you are a fine man …” comment? It was not required, had nothing to do with the topic and clearly showcased Graham’s irritating obsession with the whole “disagree without being disagreeable” concept.
That annoys me.
Also: It was stunning that Holder did not know the answer to Graham’s question about when, in American History, have enemy combatants been tried in Federal court. The five seconds of silence was stunning.
It’s amateur hour, writ large.
Comment by McGehee on 11/18 @ 4:05 pm #
Maybe he heard Patterico would be watching.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 4:06 pm #
“It was not required, had nothing to do with the topic and clearly showcased Graham’s irritating obsession with the whole “disagree without being disagreeable” concept.”
Quite, but with Combo platter, you get eggroll, no substitutions!
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 4:09 pm #
“That having been said … why did Graham feel the need, in the middle of his most excellent scorching, to inject the “…you are a fine man …” comment?”
For this answer we need Sesame Street…
[sing song]: “One man’s skin is not like the other/ One man’s skin is not the same”
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 4:10 pm #
I am just glad that today I do not dislike Graham. Tomorrow, I am sure I will. But today, he gets a pass.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 4:13 pm #
That’s disgusting. It’s a bit of a “trust me” thing, I suppose? Really?! On what grounds does she or any of us trust you asshole? “Trust me”? That’s the kinda thing a 19 year old kid says to a girl just after he whispers, “Just the tip. I promise”.
Lybd is on a fucking roll today.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 4:15 pm #
Holder’s answer to “where would you try him [OBL]“: “We’d go through our protocol.”
Has protocol been focus group tested and proven useful? It shows up in an awful lot of places it didn’t used to be, I notice.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 4:16 pm #
Is that the same “protocol” that had Barcky bending over to kiss the shoetops of the Japanese, while offering his ass to the world?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 4:23 pm #
Graham is a Carolina Senator. As such, he can’t disagree (let alone berate) an African American AG without such injection. It’s just PC politics to keep Jessie & Al off his ass come election time, and keep “racism” & “Graham” from appearing in the same newspaper story.
But I agree with JD. Graham is off my “Get the fuck out” radar for now.
But, then there will be his insufferable amnesty shit come 2010.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 4:31 pm #
On the Protocol.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 4:53 pm #
Protocol for obama was a global apology. A box set of shitty, non-playable DVDs. A gift. From the giftshop. Downstairs. An iPod with Obama speeches on it. A big fat subservient bow. A “reset button”. A fuck you to stalwart Eastern European allies. Wheels on the bus go round and round.
Obama’s protocol is now apparently policy.
That quote in #117 is stupefying. Obama and Holder are “look at me” hippies sticking flowers in evil Islamist gun barrels knowing it won’t be they that get shot.
Everything to these assclowns and their ilk is a goddamn term paper.
Comment by newrouter on 11/18 @ 5:22 pm #
the obamanator reeking havoc in America since 1961
Comment by No one you know on 11/18 @ 5:35 pm #
Man, can you imagine KSM found not guilty, and Obama not releasing him? How’s that going to make the US look?
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 11/18 @ 5:35 pm #
LYBD:
With each day he seems more like the Monarch. An angry, narcissistic, shiftless idiot, surrounding himself with a bunch of retarded, incompetent henchmen, and, I guess, Pelosi as Dr. Girlfriend.
I think Holder (aka Henchman #1) has been ordered to execute a Dark S-seven maneuver. I anticipate a similar outcome.
Comment by Kresh on 11/18 @ 5:38 pm #
@Lamontyoubigdummy
The Monarch just had a really crappy role model. He should have been raised by sharks, or wolverines, or maybe even agitated badgers so he’d have had a real chance.
Dr. Girlfriend on the other hand… he did that one right! Youwza!
*IS A GEEK*
Comment by Ric Locke on 11/18 @ 5:42 pm #
Forgot where I saw it first, but I prefer His Oliness.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by SBP on 11/18 @ 5:45 pm #
An angry, narcissistic, shiftless idiot, surrounding himself with a bunch of retarded, incompetent henchmen, and, I guess,
PelosiBarney Frank as Dr. Girlfriend.Fixed that for you, LYBD. :-)
I agree, you’re definitely on a roll here.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 6:01 pm #
Dave & Kresh,
I have an over/ under bet on how quickly Rusty Venture would tire of Obama and order Brock to beat him & then have Dr. Orpheus banish him forever to Hank & Dean’s bedroom.
In any case, I think our current President deserves his very own stupid costume.
Comment by Rusty on 11/18 @ 6:10 pm #
#125
He can’t have it. His wife is wearing it.
Comment by SBP on 11/18 @ 6:12 pm #
#126: they could work as a team. Just have Michelle wear her normal garb, but put Barry on a leash wearing a pair of assless chaps and a gimp mask.
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 11/18 @ 6:18 pm #
#125: Whenever I think of the Obama White House this Monarch quote immediately comes to mind:
“My God, look at this place. It’s like a museum of failure.”
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 6:42 pm #
No inside jokes here, so here’s what we’re laughing at folks.
Possibly the funniest show on TV in a good while. Think “Johnny Quest” from the old Hannah Barberra cartoons, add good animation and the writers from The Office and The Onion, and there ya’ go.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 6:54 pm #
Totally way off-topic, but the Phoenix Coyotes are staying in my hotel tonite.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 6:58 pm #
So guessing, you’re in Minnie-apple-us, Minnie-sota?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 6:59 pm #
…”the Phoenix Coyotes are staying in my hotel tonite.”
I had to Google that.
Don’t follow hockey.
Wait.
Do hockey teams have cheerleaders?
If so, what hotel are they staying at?
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 8:01 pm #
St Louis. No cheerleaders, but groupies. Do the Coyotes have any famous players?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 11/18 @ 8:32 pm #
“Do the Coyotes have any famous players?”
What the hell you askin’ us for? You brought ‘em up. Hell I had to Google it. They ain’t exactly on Sports Center.
Forget the Coyotes JD. Concentrate on the groupies in the hotel.
By the sound of it, you could convince any one of them your a Phoenix Coyote.
Damn it!
Why doesn’t this ever happen to me when I stay at a Courtyard Marriott?
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:11 pm #
Looks like Mr McCarthy has the same puzzlement at Holder’s testimony that I did:
Comment by geoffb on 11/18 @ 10:52 pm #
If we take as a given that Holder is not an idiot or crazy and then see that what they are doing doesn’t make any sense, there is a conclusion to draw.
There is something that we do not know. Some fact that all the other people looking at the situation do not have in evidence. Perhaps it is a secret agenda which is to be served and so that is where all the speculation is focused.
Kinda sad that I have to pray that the administration is just very incompetent.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:59 pm #
There’s a whole damned lot we don’t know geoffb and never will for that matter. It doesn’t even have to constitute an agenda though. It can amount to an emotional state abiding in these men and women, a state to which we and possibly even they have no access at all. But we take them as we find them, and so with their works. On those grounds alone, I’m more confident every day that we can in fact judge them to be plain old stupid and incompetent. And ex-post dumb decision paddling furiously to get over the river of horseshit they’ve created for themselves.
Comment by geoffb on 11/18 @ 11:01 pm #
I saw this actually happen. In the early 70’s I was on the Left. The Nixon landslide of 1972 brought down a ton of grief (deserved every bit too) on my head at work from all those who voted for RMN. Two years later not a one of them would admit to having even gone near a voting booth in ‘72.
It was years later that I finally understood what a bunch of crap the history of that episode was. All sides stunk to high heaven but some were more equal than others.
Comment by geoffb on 11/18 @ 11:03 pm #
I like that.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 11:06 pm #
I saw that too with Nixon. I’ve seen it to some extent with GWB. But this Obama dude is going to take the cake all time I think, simply because he is such a con artist. He’s the guy Melville describes. He described himself for Christ’s sake. An empty cipher people paint whatever they want upon. And then, I think, unpaint as the need occurs to them.
Comment by maggie katzen on 11/19 @ 1:00 am #
aw, that Graham clip didn’t have the part where Holder was all, “I think it’s silly of you to bring up OBL, he’s totally different than KSM” um. okay.
Comment by McGehee on 11/19 @ 6:20 am #
During those years I suspect I saw more cars with “Don’t blame me, I voted for McGovern” bumper stickers, than there were actual people who did vote for McGovern.
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