via Gateway Pundit
Team Obama was off on their October budget predictions by nearly $20 billion.
The deficit for the first month of the 2010 fiscal year reached $176 billion.
(It must be Bush’s fault, right?)
The Wall Street Journal reported:The federal government kicked off fiscal year 2010 by posting its widest-ever October budget deficit, the Treasury Department said Thursday.
The $176.36 billion gap is more than $20 billion wider than the shortfall recorded in October 2008, driven up by lower tax receipts, stimulus-related revenue reductions and consistently high government outlays.
…The October deficit figure is wider than the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate for a $175 billion deficit in the month and wider than the $165.9 billion expected by analysts surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires.
President George Bush never did this
The disconnect between what President Obama says and what he’s doing is so glaring that most people could not abide it. The president, his advisers and allies have no trouble. But reconciling blatantly contradictory objectives requires them to engage in willful self-deception, public dishonesty, or both.
First, subservience to Japan, now Taiwan under the bus.
Freedom of speech? From hypocrisy to irony.
Remember that Obama “tax credit” last February that was part of the Stimulus Pork bill? SUCKERS!!!
Iran gives the middle finger and The Once senses a “disturbing pattern”. Oh my, He might write the sternly worded letter! Or order the ::::gasp::: comfy chair!
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Palate cleanser: Secret WH briefing exposed
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/17 @ 3:53 am #
Sometimes you have to beat the child to make it perfect. Mao said that.
Screw the National Anthem. Obama said… well, pretty much.
Comment by alppuccino on 11/17 @ 5:32 am #
Uh, Salt Lick, I think he thinks they’re singing to HIM.
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/17 @ 5:41 am #
It’s intentional, al. It’s like his shooting opponents the bird, right on camera, and calling Sarah Palin a pig, right on camera. Inside, he’s laughing at the world. He thinks he’s cute. I have to admit, it must be an incredible trip.
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 6:20 am #
But enough about Obama. Let’s talk about Bush.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/17 @ 6:27 am #
I know that all these problems, including “Bow-gate”, are at their root caused by Boooooooosh!…
But seriously:
I lived in DC for many years, and although this is only an op-ed columnist, when Obama’s starting to lose the WaPo, it’s an indication that he’s going to have a hard road to hoe up ahead…
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 6:34 am #
Bankrupt country, lying President, foreign policy in ruins, liberty diminished, runaway corruption in DC. Where’s the outrage?
Thanks, Fourth Estate, for your undying fealty to bullshit.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/17 @ 6:48 am #
And all I can say about Taiwan joining others under the Obama Bus? It’s effin’ shameful, that we would basically renounce them, abandoning another democratic ally, as well as the other dissidents in China simply to be able to make nice and encourage them to buy more treasury bonds…
I mean, what was this trip’s purpose? Actual diplomacy or, you know, a sales call..?
It’s shameful, especially since all his predecessors have reiterated our dedication to the sovereignty and security of Taiwan. And it also is just another example of the hypocrisy of the left, after years of palaver and feigned Outrage! over Booooooooosh! refusing to snub China out of concern for “human rights abuses”…
Friggin’ hypocrites! Obama should have told the Chinese he’s talk about Taiwan after they stopped artificially manipulating their currency to give themselves an unfair trade advantage…
Comment by Rusty on 11/17 @ 7:01 am #
#7
I’m not proud to say it, but I called that one. Not like it was a reach or anything. Just figure what a decent person would do and bet Obama will do the opposite. How anyone can laud this mans behavior is beyond me.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 11/17 @ 7:13 am #
Cigs here in VA are now around 5.15 a pack, beer went up from 16.99 to around 20.50 a case. I thought I wasn’t going to see my taxes go up to pay for all this shit if I didn’t make over 250,000 a year?
Comment by sdferr on 11/17 @ 7:13 am #
That Reuters article on Taiwan appears deeply dishonest in the headline and use of “sovereignty” to me. But I’ll have to look further to be able to see what has actually taken place while the Reuters thing sits to the side awaiting validation or invalidation.
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/17 @ 7:15 am #
What was the purpose of this trip?
I was looking for that on the China Daily website and found a wonderful story about Obama’s Grandma and a special kind of “hope.”
She waved to a group of barefoot school children who were singing an emotional African praise song.
“Look how beautiful she is! See how she walks with dignity! Look at her neck! Sarah is our heroine. I will hang myself if anyone would dare take Sarah away!” the children sang, with their faces shining with hope.
Comment by Matt on 11/17 @ 7:27 am #
Its funny JHo mentions Bush because during a conversation with a hard core liberal I know, when asked about the bowing, he told me with a straight face that Obama feels the need to overdo it with diplomacy when he goes abroad because Bush made so many enemies overseas. He feels like the US should be “humbling itself” (his words) when dealing with other countries.
I know my mouth was agape for several seconds at least.
Comment by serr8d on 11/17 @ 7:36 am #
You think that chart is scary? This one…
Buy seeds that will actually germinate, and stash ‘em with the ration packs. This might not be much fun.
Comment by sdferr on 11/17 @ 7:48 am #
CNN poll on the “Holder” decision:
oopsie.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/17 @ 7:59 am #
Yeah, I saw that poll yesterday at RCP:
http://powip.com/2009/11/flash-majority-feel-ksm-should-be-tried-by-military-tribunal/
Looks like Obama will have to ’splain that one; I wonder of Holder will suddenly not be the Eric Holder he’s known all these years..?
Comment by sdferr on 11/17 @ 8:06 am #
That one would be the king bullshit cut-out winner of all time Bob, if he could pull that off. He can’t of course, it’s simply out of the question. Too many asses have crawled out on the limb with them, them mind you, in recognition of Obama’s own role in making this decision, a role impossible to paper over or cover up. They are truly hoist with their own petard on this one.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/17 @ 8:17 am #
You’re right sdferr,
But I have to pause for a moment and wonder why it was announced after he left the country. Do you think it was simply to keep the press from asking him about it? Or twisting that bufoon Gibbs’ arm for answers on the issue?
But you’re correct that there are a whole lot of asses out on the limb with the won on this one.
Comment by sdferr on 11/17 @ 8:26 am #
Why after Obama had bugged out already, why on a Friday in classic document dump fashion, why by the AG instead of the Commander in Chief? There are plenty of questions to raise on that score. All of the answers, however, point directly back to the quality of the decision itself and the certain knowledge within the Obama administration that the decision would not, repeat, not be well received by the nation once it would become known. They knew damned well these poll numbers were coming. They don’t give a shit, evidently. They will give you, me, us, what they want to give us and tell us it is for our own good, despite whatever we may say about it. That is because they know what is good and we do not.
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 8:38 am #
So. By what objective, rational standard would anyone defend this Administration? On what grounds? By what record or qualifications? By what history of success?
Or can we all just finally admit that he was the president that projection built.
Comment by sdferr on 11/17 @ 8:48 am #
“Or can we all just finally admit that he was the president that projection built.”
No, of course “we” can’t admit any such thing JHo, if by we you intend the people of the US taken as a whole. There are many millions, represented here by our everyday visitors (you know them) who still think, and long after he’s out of office, no doubt, will continue to still think, that Barry Obama and his worker bees are the bestest most perfectest political phenomenon to every hit the bigtime. We, meaning you and I and people who agree with us about the poverty of decisions and positions of this administration, will have to figure out how to live with these others, who dislike our very existence. In better circumstances, we will probably return to ignoring them. In worse, they are in our faces to such an extent that the ignoring option isn’t available.
Comment by Squid on 11/17 @ 8:49 am #
By what objective, rational standard would anyone defend this Administration? On what grounds?
Well, the Hope, of course! That, and the Change!
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 8:53 am #
RACIST!!!!!
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 9:04 am #
Is that you, alphie?
Comment by sdferr on 11/17 @ 9:14 am #
Reason and rational standards, whatever they may be, are probably not the place we’d want to begin, I think. They have (or bring along in train), all sorts of problems that get us away from where it is we want to be. Could be I’m wrong though, so it may be worth the trouble to sort it all out. On the other hand, sorting out that question, going to that trouble, is precisely what I meant to begin with.
Comment by ghost707 on 11/17 @ 9:24 am #
I think the International Hookers Union should sue the media in general for giving whores a bad name.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/17 @ 10:37 am #
Deficits don’t matter.
Besides, we can just tax the rich to balance the budget:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091117/ap_on_bi_ge/us_ap_poll_health_taxes
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/17 @ 10:51 am #
Deficits definitely do matter.
Comment by Reason on 11/17 @ 10:54 am #
Shorter meya/Snowcone: I think there’s gold up my nose! Pick pick pick!
Reality weeps.
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 10:57 am #
That’s what that graph shows. Idiot.
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 11:01 am #
Only until it understands who’s really boss.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/17 @ 11:02 am #
Deficits definitely do matter…when there’s a Democrat in the White House?
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 11:05 am #
Hope!
Change.
“Sweetie if I start doing autographs I just won’t be … I am really late.”
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 11:06 am #
If you weren’t so perfectly and unassailably immune to reality I’d point you to this.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/17 @ 11:06 am #
From Snowcone;s link on taxing the rich to pay for healthcare: (Specifically refferring to the Senate pla which is the only one that matters now).
With lawmakers searching for new revenue sources to pay for their overhaul legislation, upper-income taxes may be increasingly gaining favor.
Legislation passed by Senate committees did not go that route, but now Majority Leader Harry Reid, who has a free hand in merging two committee-passed bills, is considering raising the payroll tax that goes to Medicare on income above $250,000 a year, officials told The Associated Press last week. Current law sets the tax at 1.45 percent of income, an amount matched by employers.
The Senate Finance Committee bill would tax health insurance plans costing more than $8,000 annually for individuals and $21,000 for families, although those numbers could rise. Union members are lined up against that approach because they fear their benefits could be hurt, and the public doesn’t like it either, the AP poll found. Fifty-six percent were opposed and only 29 percent in favor.
Other payment methods being contemplated on Capitol Hill also met with disapproval. Participants in the poll didn’t support new taxes on medical device makers, drug companies or even insurers — even though they said in response to different questions that drug companies and insurance companies made too much money.
Forty-eight percent in the poll were opposed to new taxes on insurance companies, and 42 percent were in support. Fifty-one percent opposed raising taxes on drug and device makers, while 41 percent supported that approach.
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/17 @ 11:07 am #
“Deficits definitely do matter…when there’s a Democrat in the White House?”
Nope. How many times are you going to trot out this tired nonsense?
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 11:08 am #
They certainly do: When there’s a Republican congress behind a Clinton Administration the Democrats can take credit for, anyway.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 11/17 @ 11:09 am #
Comment by Snowcone on 11/17 @ 11:02 am #
Deficits definitely do matter…when there’s a Democrat in the White House?
Obviously not to Democrats who bitched about it during the past 8 years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsrFa9jrpv8&feature=player_embedded) but now seem totally cool with taking the deficits of the past and multiplying them by 3 or 4. Only in your retarded world did not only noone on the right complain about Bush’s spending, but now spending that dwarfs his is AOK simply because it is Obama doing it. Or are you just saying “but Bush” as a longer form of “shut up”?
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 11:10 am #
snotty just lost FactMatch 2000™ for the fifteenth straight time.
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 11:10 am #
Hey, look who’s rich!
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/17 @ 11:11 am #
Yep – Snowcone, it ain’t the Republicans or conservatives foiling your schemes … you have far worse problems. One of your huge boosters (organized labor) and of course the voters are not down with the crime. Go ahead, use your supermajorities, vote it in. DO IT. The F you waiting for?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 11/17 @ 11:11 am #
Sorry about the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsrFa9jrpv8&feature=player_embedded
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 11:16 am #
Oh. You’re new here?
Comment by BJTexs on 11/17 @ 11:20 am #
Shorter alphie/Baghdad Bob” “Deficits? What deficits? this is all good spending and soon those deficits will disappear like American Troops at the airport!”
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 11:20 am #
It takes a special kind of stupid for alphie to talk about a balanced budget without its head assploding.
It would be interesting to see how it would define “the rich” and how much it would tax those evil successful people in order to get rid of the trillions of dollars of deficits.
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 11:22 am #
Yeah. He’s losing Indies in droves too.
But his approval numbers are up, so you can just ignore all those…uh, numbers.
RASMUSSEN! AND BOOOOOSSSSSH!!
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 11:28 am #
Barry’s SocProgg bona fides have left Teh Europeens inconsolable.
BOOOSH!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/17 @ 11:32 am #
“Comment by Snowcone on 11/17 @ 10:37 am #
Deficits don’t matter.
Besides, we can just tax the rich to balance the budget”
I won’t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 11:37 am #
On the bright side, the stimulus has done some amazing stimulation.
$6.4 Billion Stimulus Goes to Phantom Districts
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/17 @ 11:39 am #
“The web site operates on an $84 million budget….”
Think about that for a minute.
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I couldn’t spend $84,000,000 on a web site if I used gold plated intertubes.
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 11:41 am #
Give it a few years, N. O’Brain. You might be able to spend that on dinner.
Comment by Squid on 11/17 @ 12:06 pm #
That’s what I love best about Snowy’s support for “soak the millionaires” schemes. He seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that very soon, we’re all going to be millionaires.
Comment by McGehee on 11/17 @ 12:32 pm #
…because — it being blowchunk you’re talking to — it simply isn’t possible.
Comment by JMD on 11/17 @ 12:39 pm #
YES …. BUSH RUINED THE AMERICAN ECONOMY. Read the link if you want to learn something. The Clinton years sure are looking good, aren’t they now?
Finally, the worst recession of the modern era is beginning to turn around, thanks to the Obama Administration. Did you expect Obama to repair the damage of Bush in a few months, or do it cheaply? Even GM is beginning to turn the corner and pay off their bailout debt. Remember, when you look at that chart, the nearly trillion dollar financial corp bailout that Bush pushed through. That in and of itself accounts for hgalf the deficit. The amazing thing is that this 700 Billion dollar bailout – Bush had absolutely NO CLUE on what he was doing. Can you imagine? Bush bails out the CEOs while America suffers. Just look around you… do you ever remember a time where so many have lost their jobs?
Yea right, blame Obama because it feels good.
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 12:53 pm #
December 2007 from the Vanity Fair. Good one, JMD. Are you playing here all week?
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/17 @ 12:56 pm #
“$6.4 Billion Stimulus Goes to Phantom Districts.”
Paging defecit hawk, eleventy star general, stimulus “sherrif” Joe Biden…
I wonder which one of the 57 states those districts are in? Brilliance, Judgement!, Ethics!, Transparency!, thy name is O!…
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 12:59 pm #
Which do you like better? The 26 year unemployment high or the deficit which more then quadruples anything Bush ever imagined? Or maybe it’s the 640,000 jobs saved or created. I like that one best, but I’m only in it for the lulz.
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/17 @ 1:00 pm #
Even GM is beginning to turn the corner and pay off their bailout debt.Bah ha ha ha. Paying off their debt with money we loaned them is now considered turning a corner? Good grief, I weep for our future.
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 11/17 @ 1:03 pm #
Yea right, blame Obama because it feels good.
Or we can blame him because the incompetence of HIS administration is mostly responsible.
And please enlighten us as to exactly how the recession is “beginning to turn around, thanks to the Obama Administration”. What with the rising unemployment, falling revenue and all.
Comment by EJ D on 11/17 @ 1:05 pm #
I love it when wingnuts blame Repub presidents for the awful budgets that a Dem congress passes and then weep tears of blood when Dem presidents are blamed for the awful budgets passed by a Repub congress.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 1:07 pm #
That was one ginormous steaming pile of verbal diarrhea there from the drive-by asshat. Copying and pasting a rant does not make your douchenozzlery any less laughable.
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 1:08 pm #
Hey, didn’t Senator Messiah vote for that clueless Bush bailout? And what is the meaning of this?
Comment by ghost707 on 11/17 @ 1:09 pm #
Damn that Bush for starting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Oh, wait….
Comment by Thomas on 11/17 @ 1:10 pm #
GW Bush on the $700 bailout of AIG, etc…
When it was explained to him that his concept of the bailout proposal wasn’t correct, the president was momentarily speechless. He threw up his hands in frustration and said,
“Why did I sign on to this proposal if I don’t understand what it does?” – GW Bush
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 1:12 pm #
That’s DC protocol now, ain’t it?
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 1:14 pm #
Bush left at least half of the TARP $$$ for Barcky to spend, monies Barcky voted for. And, it is fucking hysterical to hear a leftist wail about deficits when their only objection to things like TARP, prescription drug bill, NCLB, “stimulus”, etc … is that they did not spend enough.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 1:16 pm #
Thomas – Bush ain’t in office, fuckface.
Comment by Blake on 11/17 @ 1:20 pm #
Leftists are still campaigning against Bush, Cheney and Palin.
None of whom hold elective office any more.
I guess leftists didn’t get the memo that the campaign is over and it’s time to start governing…as in, being responsible for current policies that are being pursued or being implemented.
Comment by ghost707 on 11/17 @ 1:20 pm #
This uber deficit is all Obama’s. The democrats have been in control of the budget for almost 3 straight years.
Learn to to love it lefties.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 1:23 pm #
Since Tomas knows all, maybe he could explain how the stimulus has created or saved imaginary jobs, or was going to keep unemployment under 9%.
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/17 @ 1:26 pm #
Heh. Weak sauce man, thanks for playing though. Get back to us when those responsible for the budget start reading the legislation they’re passing.
Comment by Blake on 11/17 @ 1:28 pm #
: It would have been even worse, had the stimulus not passed. I mean, Obama seriously underestimated how bad the economy Bush left us was, but, it would have really gotten bad, had Obama not done something about it.
/end Tomas channel
Comment by Squid on 11/17 @ 1:28 pm #
ATTENTION, TROLLS: I never liked Dubya. I didn’t vote for him in 2000, and I only voted for him in 2004 because I couldn’t stand the thought of “Christmas in Cambodia” being in charge of our troops. I thought Medicare Part D was a supremely bad bit of legislation. I thought “compassionate conservatism” was a stupid and misguided platform. I thought TARP was an abomination that never should have passed. I still support the idea that nothing is “too big to fail.”
So, I don’t want to hear another word about how bad Dubya was on domestic spending. I agree with you. Even granting that Congress passes budgets, I thought he should have done far more to press for smaller budgets and to veto the piles of shit that Congress put on his desk.
Now, here’s the thing: Bush isn’t President any more. Hasn’t been for almost a year. It’s Obama’s show now, and by all accounts he knows even less about the economy than Bush did. He’s encouraging dangerous monetary policy. He’s putting in place tax policies that will punish successful businesses, causing them to flee to foreign shores or just close up shop entirely. He’s given mixed signals on his intentions, causing markets to freezes as the major players pull back until they find out what the playing field will look like. Hell, even TARP was passed mostly so that Obama would have plenty of Monopoly money to play with the day after the Inauguration.
So, for as bad as Bush was (and I remember plenty of you guys agreeing with me that he was bad), Obama is worse by at least a factor of four. This means that “Bush was terrible!” is not a valid argument. I agree that Bush was bad, but Obama is four times worse. Every time you try to remind us of how bad Bush was, you only drive home the fact that Obama is four times worse.
For the love of all that’s holy, you need to send word up the chain of command and let Soros know that this is the wrong line of attack. It’s self-defeating. Time to find another tactic. Really!
Comment by ghost707 on 11/17 @ 1:29 pm #
How many times did Bawny Frank tell us that Fannie/Freddie were A-OK and not to regulate them?
Comment by Blake on 11/17 @ 1:31 pm #
Well said, Squid.
Comment by ghost707 on 11/17 @ 1:36 pm #
So, for as bad as Bush was (and I remember plenty of you guys agreeing with me that he was bad), Obama is worse by at least a factor of four.
You’ll get no argument from me squid.
Like Bill Whittle said, it’s all the “smart” Harvard types that have wrecked the economy.
Too many fucking lawyer types in Washington that have never created a single dollar’s worth of wealth in their entire life.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/17 @ 1:36 pm #
The Barack Obama one is not in the best interests of our little country. Did anyone read Roubini whoring himself out for Stimulus III? Drudge has it today. It’s very sad how the Roubini is such a willing whore. He’s joining the bought and paid for Mark Zandi one in prostituting himself like a dirty dirty whore to abet the dirty socialist anal rape of our little country. They’re gonna get diseases if they keep spreading it around like that I think.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 1:37 pm #
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSh!
Bunnies!
Racists!
The Moonbat Trilogy
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 1:48 pm #
Gotta love how the guy did an about face, ‘feets. Espousing what he once decried. He of all people know where it leads.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/17 @ 1:50 pm #
It’s self-defeating.
In what way?
It wins elections.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/17 @ 1:58 pm #
Snowcone wakes up to the sight of his piss-boner and yells out in the dark …
“It wins elections.”
Comment by Jon Corzine on 11/17 @ 2:00 pm #
Fuck you, Snowcone.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/17 @ 2:02 pm #
How you gonna soak the already soaked upon?
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 2:06 pm #
GM’s sterling http://finance.yahoo.com/news/GM-reports-12B-3Q-loss-says-apf-899930954.html?x=0:
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 2:09 pm #
JHo – Sounds like Congress needs to amend the “healthcare reform” to add mandatory purchase of GM cars.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 2:13 pm #
While they are at it, I wish they would mandate the purchase of 80+ inch DLP’s, as I saw a new one this afternoon with the best picture quality I have ever seen. Mandating the purchase of same under penalty of jail for failure to do so would keep Better Half fro$ kicking my ass.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/17 @ 2:15 pm #
Just how big is the stimulus package? Well for one, it has doubled the size of the House of Representatives, according to recovery.gov, which says that funds were distributed to 440 congressional districts that do not exist.
According to data retrieved from recovery.gov, nearly $6.4 billion was used to “create or save” just under 30,000 jobs in these phantom congressional districts–almost $225,000 per job. The web site operates on an $84 million budget
F … that money went somewhere. Likely into someones pocket. It just did not up and disappear like a fart in the wind. It is somewhere. Congressional investigators need to be summoned. F* Bullshit like it made it to fake districts …. this has the total whiff of a poorly executed or lazy attempt at money laundering.
Comment by Danger on 11/17 @ 2:22 pm #
“$6.4 Billion Stimulus Goes to Phantom Districts.”
Mayor Kevin Johnson had no comment on the matter.
Comment by sdferr on 11/17 @ 2:29 pm #
It was a fine thing to see IG Walpin vindicated. He has also said he wants his old job back. This was on the whole a shameful episode for the Obama administration, though they’ve not apologized so far as I’ve seen.
Comment by Squid on 11/17 @ 2:36 pm #
Snowy, promising 52% of the electorate that they can steal everything they want from the other 48% of the electorate will indeed win elections. It’s sad that you don’t see anything wrong with that. It’s also sad that for all your talk about “sustainability,” you refuse to admit that it’s unsustainable.
Power for power’s sake, and damn the consequences. It’s the Chicago Way. And it’s 100% Snowcone approved!
Comment by ghost707 on 11/17 @ 2:44 pm #
I’m wondering who is going to buy all the new GM stock once they throw it on the market.
I know! Let’s have the Government buy the majority of the shares to keep the ponzi scheme going! Brilliant!
Comment by Snowcone on 11/17 @ 2:53 pm #
It’s sad that you don’t see anything wrong with that.
I’ll be happy to see Obama just cut farm subsidies and military spending.
That ought to pay for everything Obama’s fans want.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 2:59 pm #
Alphie really does hate our country.
Dance, monkeyboy. Dance!
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/17 @ 3:02 pm #
…or not. Even if it did, they’d just want more free stuff! Pretty soon, everything you and your ilk looted will be gone and we’ll be left with the hefty bill and no way to pay for it.
Congrats. You’re bankrupting a once prosperous country. The scary part is you just don’t seem to care. It’s all about party and power, results be damned. You’re a sad sack of an excuse for an American you little snotnose weasel.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/17 @ 3:13 pm #
All I see are a couple of whiners praying for America to fail just like Rush and Glenn told ‘em to.
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 3:19 pm #
*
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 3:19 pm #
rather *
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/17 @ 3:30 pm #
America isn’t failing, it’s leadership is. One day you’ll learn the difference between the two and when you do you’ll be one step closer to actually understanding this country and all that made it once great.
Get bent, you fuckin’ amoral loser.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/17 @ 3:36 pm #
Wingnut history is always worth a laugh, Ford.
Why don’t you share some with us.
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/17 @ 3:37 pm #
Obamas home teleprompter malfunctions.
Comment by SPC Jack Klompus on 11/17 @ 3:37 pm #
“Why don’t you share some with us.”
Why don’t you take the advice that everyone has given you and throw yourself in front of a speeding train, you sniveling dickless, lifeless loser?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/17 @ 3:40 pm #
U.S. stocks rose to fresh 13-month highs on Tuesday
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-St-advances-to-fresh-rb-1625006309.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=
Pray harder, America haters.
Comment by SPC Jack Klompus on 11/17 @ 3:40 pm #
100 Ford – hilarious. I like their take on Gore, too.
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/al_gore_places_infant_son_in
Comment by SPC Jack Klompus on 11/17 @ 3:41 pm #
100 Ford – I especially like the end of the Obama-teleprompter story where she says, “A Philadelphian shares with us some of the best places to get murdered.” Great shout out to my home town.
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/17 @ 3:43 pm #
Why should I put forth the effort into that when it’s clear that your parents and school district so spectacularly failed the first time?
Comment by SPC Jack Klompus on 11/17 @ 3:46 pm #
And once again snotshit takes one line from an article that in his feeble useless mind is a vindication of his POV. All one has to do is go to the SECOND paragraph and read: “Even so, the underlying tone was negative as investors fretted about the strength of the recovery and the recent rally, and more stocks fell than rose.”
You’re a fucking idiot. You know nothing about anything. You’re a clueless, useless tool. Hilarious.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 3:49 pm #
Why is it that leftists conflate Barcky and America?
Dance, alphie/snotnose/monkeyboy. Dance!
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 3:54 pm #
In what?
Comment by Squid on 11/17 @ 3:55 pm #
Well, let’s see. On the farm subsidy side, we have $11.4 billion in commodity payments. I’m assuming you’re okay with the $2 billion in conservation grants, since that’s all green and Gaia-friendly.
On the military side, I have to ask: do you want to get rid of the armed forces entirely, or just cut them back somewhat? Do you want to get rid of pension and medical payments for veterans, or is your hatred of our military limited to just those currently serving? Is research and development of new systems okay, or do you hate engineers as much as you hate soldiers? Are you willing to admit that cutting the military will necessitate the creation of a new Department Of Asking Very Nicely For Other Countries To Please Not Kill Us And Steal Our Stuff, with its attendant costs?
Don’t bother answering, since everyone here already knows that you don’t actually give any thought to the drivel that spews from your empty cranium. I hope, for your sake, that your mother never realizes just what it is you do in the basement all day. I hope she thinks you spend all your time playing World of Warcraft, since that’s much less sad than the truth. Hell, you could tell her you spend all day trying to talk 14-year-old boys into “special weekend getaways,” and it would still be less sad than the truth.
Comment by Makewi on 11/17 @ 3:56 pm #
I remember a time when a rise in the market coupled with such a massive decrease in employment would make folks like alphie enraged over the greed of the corporate fatcat types. I guess this signals the CHANGE Obama was talking about.
Comment by Makewi on 11/17 @ 3:58 pm #
Why do you hate the unemployed alphie?
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/17 @ 3:59 pm #
Snowcone – we’ve covered this ground before re the stock market. You keep missing the point here.
Equities/Fixed Income/Commodities are rising as the dollar sinks, it is only one leg of a massive dollar carry position (and it is the hedge leg). A leverage short position in the USD is returning 20%, the spread to equities is simply to keep the book delta (position) neutral.
So net net as a naked holder of US dollar assets (unleveraged) you and I (retail size) folks are losers. Big losers. It is not wishing America fails – it is, unfortunately, watching it do so in real time.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/17 @ 4:05 pm #
global defense spending
Chicken or egg? What would global defense spending be if not for the US providing security gaurantees all over the world?
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/17 @ 4:15 pm #
No .. I think you can carry the line of reasoning out to its logical conclusions. Its gonna be a lot higher, therefore the cuts you hope to realize will be much smaller. Perhaps even non-existent. Very much so. Not to mention the concomitant issues of hot wars from multiple arms races spilling over in areas where checks and balances like those here do not exist. The AK47 and its production licensing is a great case study of this problem in a smaller scale.
This is the same fallacy that surrounds taxation arguments you make. You refuse to acknowledge that all circumstances are dynamic, because people react to changes in incentives and not in a rational way (the latter, most of the time).
Comment by Squid on 11/17 @ 4:23 pm #
That’s almost $500 billion worth of pork to spread around on more productive uses.
How much are you planning to invest in the Department Of Asking Very Nicely For Other Countries To Please Not Kill Us And Steal Our Stuff?
Comment by Squid on 11/17 @ 4:25 pm #
I mean, just the Undersecretary of Begging Pirates To Please Stop Harassing Our Merchant Ships will cost several billion, once you figure the Danegeld into the budget.
Comment by Alphie on 11/17 @ 4:26 pm #
How much are you planning to invest in the Department Of Asking Very Nicely For Other Countries To Please Not Kill Us And Steal Our Stuff?
Hahahaha, Squid.
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 4:32 pm #
Get back to us with your reconciliation of those two statements.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 4:37 pm #
Stoopid that pervasive should be both visible and painful.
Comment by Pablo on 11/17 @ 4:48 pm #
When will we end this stupid war?
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 5:10 pm #
I think it gave itself a frontal lobotomy.
Comment by JHo on 11/17 @ 5:19 pm #
*
They say most monkeys don’t make the same mistake twice, Alphie.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 6:29 pm #
JHo – I will not even bother noting how fucking racist that was.
Squid wins comment of the day.
Comment by Rusty on 11/17 @ 6:39 pm #
the funny sad thing is they really think they’re being clever.When may/snocone and drive bys comment.
17.2% unemployment. The economy is not recovering.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 7:21 pm #
Rusty – I don’t even think they believe they are being clever. They just lie.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 8:29 pm #
Anyone sensing a manic episode from meya/RD ?
Comment by Darleen on 11/17 @ 8:30 pm #
RD/meya
Obama is allowing 40% unemployment the CA Central Valley.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 8:39 pm #
He is not allowing it, Darleen, he is causing it.
Comment by Darleen on 11/17 @ 10:34 pm #
RD/meya
Obama has the power to turn on the water. He refuses to do so.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 10:36 pm #
I have never heard a good or rational reason as to why they hate the CA Central Valley citizens.
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 10:37 pm #
And by “they”, I mean Barcky and his band of hateful degenerate smegma-eaters.
Comment by Darleen on 11/17 @ 10:42 pm #
JD
it’s a red section of California…thorn in the side to Bay area blues
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 12:26 am #
Are you really that dense, snotnose? I mean, seriously. You should not be allowed outside unsupervised.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 12:29 am #
That was commerical/industrial grade douchenozzlery, alphie.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 12:32 am #
When you get a job and actually pay taxes, get back to us. What is being done to the residents of the Central Valley has nothing to do with unpaid taxes, or even some imaginary cost savings and a show of fiscal restraint on behalf of the Dems. My daughters are spoiled rotten, and on their worst day, they are exponentially better people than you.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 12:38 am #
Delta smelt, bitch. FOAD, alphie.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 12:41 am #
There is a free solution. Choose people before delta smelt. FOAD, alphie.
Comment by SBP on 11/18 @ 12:44 am #
I like your use of the word “allowing.”
I like the way you keep pretending that anyone here takes anything you say seriously.
Mental health, SFAG. Look into it.
Comment by B Moe on 11/18 @ 5:58 am #
Clue for Snowcone: water is the most heavily regulated resource in the United States. If there were private sector solutions available, believe me they would be in use.
Its pretty amazing, isn’t it?
Comment by Carin on 11/18 @ 6:09 am #
on’t call U6 “unemployment.” It makes you look like you don’t know what you’re talking about. But there’s no need with me to try to scare me. We’ve seen the chart on how the job losses from this downturn look compared to others. It’s terrible. All the more argument to be a deficit hawk! Bring on the budget cuts — unemployment is up, time to tighten our belts.
Michigan unemployment numbers due out today.
Comment by Rusty on 11/18 @ 6:57 am #
#151
Two middle management types, one in his 40s and the other in his 50s, got laid off last week. They live just down the block. In 2007 their homes were in the over 500,000 range. No house sold in this neighborhood last year for more than 320,000. Trophy homes are going cheap is some cases less than half of what they originally sold for.
My brother and his wife bought a house in Mich, near New Buffalo, however they both still work in Chicago.He’s making half of what he was a year ago and she has sold her first house in two years. Things picked up for me, I now only have every other Friday off.
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 7:21 am #
Could that be because the private sector can’t, due to the government?
Comment by Ric Locke on 11/18 @ 7:29 am #
They already did, meya — since, like, the Twenties. Or didn’t you ever see Chinatown? There are few parts of California, and none where people live, that don’t have extensive water infrastructure, some public, some private.
There is no water to put into the infrastructure because the fish get it instead. There is no private investment in water infrastructure because there is no water to put into the infrastructure and therefore no point in it. That isn’t an objection to “public” spending on water infrastructure, of course. Hey, California’s only $21 billion in the red this year — they should spend another $20 billion or so building dams, reservoirs, canals, pumps, and Archimedean Screws. There’d still be no water to put in it, because the fish get it instead, but it’s a lovely WPA project, no?
When you figure out how either the “public” or the private sector can make water, get back to us. In the meantime you’re just another spoiled preadolescent assuming that since there’s been water in the past there will always be water, and the task is distributing it fairly, right?
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 7:36 am #
Ric, why do you hate the delta smelt?
Comment by SBP on 11/18 @ 7:41 am #
When you figure out how either the “public” or the private sector can make water, get back to us.
Maybe Plastic Jesus can turn hot air into water.
Comment by Ric Locke on 11/18 @ 7:43 am #
Because preserving it means I can’t have fresh arugula.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 7:45 am #
Alphie and meya appear to be dummerer than I had given them credit for.
Comment by McGehee on 11/18 @ 8:10 am #
Then obviously we need to spend more money on that infrastructure! Water doesn’t grow on trees, you know!
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 8:40 am #
Was there ever a worse liar in public life than Sen Patrick Leahy? We might suppose that there has been someone (Teddy Kennedy?) but this pig would give them all a run for the prize.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 8:59 am #
What did Leaky Leahy do this time, sdferr?
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 9:04 am #
For the moment, I’m going with Eric Holder.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 9:44 am #
Feinstein commits to the stupidity. I’m just a little surprised at that. I had thought she was a little sharper in figuring out her political interests, but I guess her delusions are somewhat wider ranging.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 9:57 am #
Grassley sounds like a genuine retard when he speaks. Not to say with any assurance that he is a retard, just that he sounds like one.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 9:59 am #
Are you watching CSpan, sdferr?
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:00 am #
Yes, I am.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:17 am #
“Show us the money”, says Senator Schumer.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 10:25 am #
What are they having hearings on? Does that make you a voyeur, as you are watching us all get fucked, live? ;-)
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:28 am #
“What are they having hearings on?”
There isn’t a topic as such. Holder is appearing before the Senate Judiciary committee. Right now Graham is asking Holder where Bin Laden would be tried if he were captured. Holder is in a world of hurt, at the moment.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 10:32 am #
Is he still maintaining that this was his decision, and his alone?
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:34 am #
I haven’t heard him say that JD, but my connection has dropped out a number of times, so it’s possible he has.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 10:34 am #
How do you stomach watching Durbin, Feinstein, and Chuckles Schumer? Every time he sneers at someone while looking over his glasses I want to kick the nearest cat.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:35 am #
They just went into recess for 10 min.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:35 am #
Easy, listening not watching. Ha!
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 10:37 am #
Sdferr – His claim that it was his decision alone was one of the more brazen lies, no small feat, considering the company he keeps.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:42 am #
Yes, Sen Sessions was reminded by Sen Leahy that he was born in Alabama and therefore as a nigger-hating racist Southerner, he ought not be citing Lincoln or Grant with approval. Very perceptive of you meya.
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 10:53 am #
Sen Durbin: “Give me the money.”
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 10:58 am #
STFU, meya, you lying fucking fascist douchenozzlette.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 11:00 am #
Oh for the love of Allah. Alphie is amazing. Hint. It wasn’t a desert until Barcky’s boys turned off the water to save a minnow.
Comment by B Moe on 11/18 @ 11:03 am #
I wondered how that exploding Saudi agri-business came about…
Wait.. what?
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 11:04 am #
Leahy plays the “prison rape” card, though the “prison” would be the streets of NYC in KSM’s case. Nice.
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 11:06 am #
Amber waves of grain, bitches!
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 11:08 am #
Can you imagine the depths of douchenozzlery that could be attained were alphie and meya to mate?
Comment by sdferr on 11/18 @ 11:08 am #
“…Saudi agri-business…”
I don’t know about exploding, but a scan of the northwestern Saudi peninsula in googleearth reveals quite a few acres under modern irrigation. Big-assed crop circles, in other words.
Comment by JD on 11/18 @ 11:16 am #
Turning off the water had nothing to do with paying taxes, you lying fucking fuckity fucker.
Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 11:40 am #
Who’s saying they don’t want to pay for water, liar? And who wants free health care?
-14.
44%-32%.
Comment by Danger on 11/18 @ 1:39 pm #
“Because preserving it means I can’t have fresh arugula.”
Smart AND Snarky
Well played Ric
Comment by B Moe on 11/18 @ 1:42 pm #
I just blew hot coffee out my nose all over my desk.