“I think I lost a contact lens”
Oh, for heaven’s sake, where the hell was Barry’s protocol officer?
… finally, apologies demand a 90 degree bow…
Clinton didn’t get any passes for his nod and shoulder shrug
But the “thou need not bow” commandment from the State Department’s protocol office maintained a constancy of more than 200 years. Administration officials scurried to insist that the eager-to-please President had not really done the unthinkable.“It was not a bow-bow, if you know what I mean,” said Ambassador Molly Raiser, the chief of protocol.
“Maybe it’s time for Valerie Jarrett to speak truth to bower.” Mark Steyn
I’m sure there are a lot of liberal bloggers burning up the Google servers trying to find an image of Bush doing this. Hopefully for their credibility they can find something better than Bush leaning over to have a medal placed around his neck.Also, I guess given this we can now assume that idea that the idea Obama was just picking something up off the floor when he bowed to Saudi King Abdulah is um, no longer operative.
This is just classic facepalm stuff from Teh Once.
At least President GHW Bush had the excuse of gastroenteritis.
h/t SBP
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UPDATED: Lefties, do you understand here that criticism directed at Obama over this crass embarrassment is about his obsequious behavior? It this really where you want to defend Obama acting like an Uncle Tom?
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via American Power, Reagan shows how an American President really behaves with respect and dignity.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 12:10 pm #
Haha, I think he just does it to make the wingnuts wee wee themselves.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 12:10 pm #
It’s embarrassing now subservient and without honor and un-American our piece of shit chavista president is but at least he didn’t make the inbred douchebag emperor and his batshit crazy wife bow to him. You know he thought about it.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 12:12 pm #
yeah I know but all royal hoochies are batshit crazy I think. That Diana one was a barking loon.
Comment by EJ D on 11/14 @ 12:13 pm #
More like he does it because he’s a community organizer, not a President. He’ll only ever be a community organizer, his stature is so far below that of a world leader.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 12:15 pm #
snotty
So your theory is that a President of the USA is going to become an international embarrassment in order to piss off his domestic political rivals?
Wow, I think so much better of Barry now!
Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 12:16 pm #
Wouldn’t his thinking about having the Emp. and Emp.-wifey bow to his own great self be a kind of double switchback hf? I mean his own great self derives its very greatness from being or thinking itself superiorly unsuperior in the world, though none of that is guaranteed to make any sense except in the mind of the superiorly unsuperior which is an impossible place to get to for those of us who just aren’t.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 12:16 pm #
Darleen,
Good manners are never an embarrassment.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 12:19 pm #
Snotty,
Ignoring the cultural protocols is always an embarrassment.
Comment by Rusty on 11/14 @ 12:19 pm #
7.Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 12:16 pm #
Darleen,
Good manners are never an embarrassment.
Then he and you should learn some.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 12:19 pm #
oh. He’s new at this is all I can think sdferr… I think his head is still spinning with the certain knowledge that he is teh awesome.
This post would go really well with a pic of that bizarre get-up M’chelle trotted out for Veteran’s Day I think.
Comment by serr8d on 11/14 @ 12:20 pm #
So it was manners that caused Obama to bow down, conehead? That was a much lower bow than ‘manners’ call for.
You’d think he was wearing chains or something.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 12:21 pm #
That was a much lower bow than ‘manners’ call for.
Haha, I think we see who the closet Royalists are here.
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 12:22 pm #
There’s good manners, and there is indicating that you are the inferior in the relationship. Even the Japanese understand that Obama should not have bowed to them. Learn some more about the Japanese and their customs before you open your gob, retard.
Comment by B Moe on 11/14 @ 12:22 pm #
The problem with being an idiot is that idiots don’t realize they should be embarrassed. It is left to the observers to be embarrassed for them. I am blushing for you right now, Snowcone.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 12:23 pm #
snotty
how knowledgable of Japan and Japanese customs are you? Outside of anime, I mean?
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 11/14 @ 12:25 pm #
I had a brief flash of annoyance, then realized: What did you expect?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 12:27 pm #
The problem with being an idiot is that idiots don’t realize they should be embarrassed.
I’m an atheist, but when I’m at a dinner where somebody’s primitive superstitions compels them to mumble a few words to their monkey god before digging in, I politely bow my head, too.
No skin off my nose.
The only people who give a crap about this stuff is the wingnuts, why shouldn’t Obama have some fun with y’all?
Comment by Joe on 11/14 @ 12:30 pm #
A deep bow is appropriate to American taxpayers and those who lost their jobs since he has taken office.
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 11/14 @ 12:31 pm #
17. Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 12:27 pm #
y’all
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I’ve noticed ‘progressives’ tend to use this sort of countrified affectation a lot.
Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 12:34 pm #
Good manners:
Comment by serr8d on 11/14 @ 12:35 pm #
@10 ‘feets, you’re right. Dueling doofuses. Brings out the post. )
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 12:39 pm #
Odd, I’d have thought you’d be able to see Soros’ hand sticking up his ass from that angle.
Comment by JHo on 11/14 @ 12:44 pm #
The problem with your theory is that it doesn’t reflect reality, snotty: Liberals applaud these “manners” you speak of because such are actually code for multiculturalism — this I know and this you know. If you were liberal, you’d reject any cowtowing to royalty by any American.
Yes, as was pointed out in thread that turned to this subject, that weak-kneed multiculturalism is both historically insensitive and an affront to liberalism.
Or do you support castes and classes and royalty, along with many other “progressives”?
But we’re not done yet. Multiculturalism aims to restore all parties to light and grace, notwithstanding the simple, brutal trajectory of the aliberal community – that bulk of the world’s peoples who have labored from birth to premature death under various tyrannies. That thing that the modern, progressive, western, political liberal simply and eternally denies, much as the dysfunctional deny their conflicts and the substance abuser his habit.
The example refers to Iran and not Japan. Yet the principle lost to us via our lost President is identical: We are who we are, an exception to the planet’s business as usual. To deny that — even in and to now-friendly Japan — denies what we stand for, and it does so not for the sake of “manners”, but for the sake of a weak multiculturalism that has yet to pay its first dividend.
The best way to project abroad who we are is for our President to represent our values and with them, our freedoms and liberties, those principles we’ll die for and we’ll die for defending others like us. In this we’re not actually American, but America is our vehicle. With these episodes Obama at best frequently spits us in the eye. At worst, he endangers the West.
If you’d like to present evidence that the West owes the global community an apology for anything from empire-building to exploitation to monetary harm, then do so. But don’t defend what has nothing to do whatsoever with bettering the lives of other of the world’s citizens and has everything to do with the President himself sticking a shiv in the American ideal of freedom and liberty. He isn’t responsible for whatever image you want to think the country presented in the past, he isn’t capable of reforming — or responsible for even managing — the actions of every ugly American tourist, he doesn’t speak for the American individual, and he’s obviously all about weakening the one thing he should be projecting and enforcing.
Among the world’s powers clearly Obama is already roundly disrespected. Prostrating himself to foreign powers in the name of manners only worsens that grave liability.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 12:45 pm #
also… here. damn these ones is losers.
Comment by JHo on 11/14 @ 12:45 pm #
Link to quoted article in #23.
Comment by -Ed. on 11/14 @ 12:47 pm #
Obviously, this is a bow of apology for our actions to end WWII.
Comment by No one you know on 11/14 @ 12:53 pm #
This guy acts like a fucking hayseed and the left has to pretend (yet again) how super smart and cultured he is. Pathetic…………….
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 12:53 pm #
I’m an atheist
and I’m sure you’re an embarrassment to the lot of them.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 12:55 pm #
and I notice snotty ignores questions of his/her/its deep and abiding knowledge of Japan and Japanese customs.
Comment by David Weisman on 11/14 @ 1:09 pm #
Better? Well, this isn’t exactly a bow.
http://www.darkgovernment.com/images/bush-kiss.jpg
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 11/14 @ 1:10 pm #
24. Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 12:45 pm #
also… here. damn these ones is losers.
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“I pledge allegience to my dick, and the republic for which it stands.”
Comment by B Moe on 11/14 @ 1:14 pm #
Isn’t exactly a bow? Cranking the stupid up to 10 right out of the gate today, are we?
Comment by Huey on 11/14 @ 1:19 pm #
“The Bent One” ver. 2.0.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 1:24 pm #
See you in a week, David.
Comment by Joe on 11/14 @ 1:26 pm #
Well, this isn’t exactly a bow.
Of course not, Obama is trying to suck his own cock.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 1:28 pm #
wiley e. obama – genuis
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 1:29 pm #
er genius
Comment by Joe on 11/14 @ 1:30 pm #
Snowcone: “I’m an atheist”
Hitchens called. They don’t want you. He suggested you try these guys out.
Comment by naturalfake on 11/14 @ 1:44 pm #
C’mon! Give the guy a break!
Afterall:
PRESIDENT OBAMA HIDES RARE MEDICAL CONDITION
Comment by Joe on 11/14 @ 1:46 pm #
Obama says military trials fine for KSM.
Comment by Joe on 11/14 @ 1:46 pm #
Oh wait, Obama changed his mind.
Comment by ThomasD on 11/14 @ 2:01 pm #
Oh to be a fly on the wall at Hillary’s place right about now.
Just, not the wall with lamp imprints all over it.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:06 pm #
God bless Mr. Drudge I think.
Comment by SporkLift Driver on 11/14 @ 2:11 pm #
Happy I don’t think the emperor is as inbred as european royalty and the moonbat is married to the PM? anyway not the emperor. You’re right about how shameful the hungarian muppet’s behavior is though.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:14 pm #
royalty thinks it’s better than me. Royalty I piss on you head.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:18 pm #
but no I think this one’s bug collector son has a wife what’s bonkers… the next next heir to the throne is born of a crazy hoochie
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:23 pm #
and then there is being a dirty socialist piece of Chicago street trash
Comment by ThomasD on 11/14 @ 2:23 pm #
So, Obama scored the toofer then?
Comment by Squid on 11/14 @ 2:32 pm #
Yes, meya, but as a representative of the rest of us, he’s supposed to PRETEND not to be.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:35 pm #
so it’s more better that he bowed to racist inbred Japenese royaltards?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:35 pm #
*Japanese* I mean
Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 2:37 pm #
but as a representative of the rest of us
What happened to, “Not my President?”
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 2:40 pm #
snotty
want to link to any PW commenter making that statement (which was the motto of leftist moonbattery from 2000-2008)
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:41 pm #
he’s not my fucking president owing to him being a dirty socialist piece Chicago street trash piece of shit and all… he’s more of a very economically damaging and generally embarrassing placeholder I thik… but he has no ability whatsoever to lead this country. People simply don’t respect his bullshit ass.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 2:41 pm #
BTW snotty
you get ten minutes to do it…then I delete your comment.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:41 pm #
*think* I mean…
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:42 pm #
oops
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 2:42 pm #
jaysus, hf,
Obama is my President and he’s yours too, until 2012.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:43 pm #
nope – he’s desecrated the office. I don’t think much of it anymore. It goes very, very cheap.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 2:51 pm #
this little president man was merely the fruition of a media and marketing campaign that had precious little to do with who he actually was… he was just a suitable whore… and he has made of our presidency an office of whores I think. It’s not that radical. Merely following suit with our abjectly gay gay gay and pitiful neo-fascist Congress. Don’t forget the Republican nominee was as wanton a whore as you could ever hope to find. Ran on a platform of cap-n-trade, he did. Who is it that can scrub the office of the stain of whorishness? Palin? Romney? Huckabee?
We’re so screwed.
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/14 @ 3:00 pm #
Obama is my President and he’s yours too, until 2012.
I hope he fails.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:04 pm #
the idea that the media could ensconce their little whore in our White House and have it be without consequence to the esteem in which the office is held is extremely quixotic, no? The dirty socialist media and their pliant whore broke the social contract I think. The cult of Palin is a manifestation of the neo-tribalism what you get when your social contract gets brokened.
I wish it could have waited til later for all this to happen.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:05 pm #
And there’s being black in japan too.
That doesn’t even make sense inside your own head, does it, SFAG?
Go on, explain to us why bowing down to a freakin’ EMPEROR is the “progressive” thing to do.
Or why a black man bowing down to the titular head of a country which is one of the most racist places on Earth is the “progressive” thing to do.
Or why you apparently still believe that anyone here takes your incompetent crapweaseling seriously.
P.S. how’s Rilly Dumb today? Did he tell you about how many instances of your deathless prose he managed to get nuked last night?
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:07 pm #
hf
Obama is on course to be even a worse President then Carter…that’s saying a lot.
But he is still the President of the USA. Period. That makes him our President.
I will oppose his anti-American policies with every fiber. I couldn’t stand Billy Jeff, but at least his neurotic need to be loved above all else made him govern closer to the center. Barry’s all encompassing narcisism makes him believe he’s loved enough that he can govern as far left as he wants.
But he is still (like Billy Jeff and Jhimmi Carter) my President.
Comment by JHo on 11/14 @ 3:09 pm #
It’s almost like race is bad religion to the left. Unfounded accusations, visions of devils and demons, inquisitions, burnings, and all.
Right meya? How is this “progressive”, really?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:11 pm #
“America” is not on the side of liberty anymores … ask the people what will go to jail for no health cares… ask a young Honduran girl… ask Meghan’s coward daddy about his cap-n-tax plan… you can’t help but notice that this is so.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:11 pm #
Remember when you made fun of those baby einstein vids and it turns out quite a few folks had bought them.
Translation: “I will now attempt to change the subject”.
Go on, SFAG. Explain why Blowbama’s subservient behavior is “progressive”. I can’t wait!
Comment by Salt Lick on 11/14 @ 3:12 pm #
But he is still (like Billy Jeff and Jhimmi Carter) my President.
Could you explain that, Darleen? This man hates America and its founding principles. He’s a totalitarian at heart.
You’re not just saying he’s your president to avoid cries of hypocrisy, are you?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:13 pm #
hey that’s really not cool at #69
I’m working on marketing planning with a Baby Einstein competitor right now so it’s just sort of how that goes I guess. It’s just a product. Not unlike our president.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:14 pm #
And there’s being black in japan too
meya/RD
you make no sense. If Barry is bowing to demonstrate his inferior class position to the emperor, doesn’t that make him an Uncle Tom?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:16 pm #
see again with the not cool at #76…
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:17 pm #
Your little country has been co-opted, Mr. #76. Deal.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:18 pm #
Looks more like “diplomacy” than “progressive.”
You’re not even trying, SFAG.
Let’s just ignore for the moment what Jefferson, Washington, Adams et al would have thought about this.
What about your own heroes? You sure didn’t see Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, or Robespierre bending over to suck the dick of some inbred “royal”, now did you?
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:20 pm #
SBP
Barry is being Steppin Fetchit to the foreigners…
weird, eh?
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:21 pm #
He’s just speaking Truth to Power, Darleen.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:22 pm #
thanks, Darleen. And I’m sorry to wax despairing today but I think that’s the first step towards acceptance, which, I think we might have to accept that in the future you pledge allegiance to your little flag at your own peril. That’s where this little train is heading so far anyway. The little president man’s Newsweek’s cover of Palin today serves notice that any standard bearer that might emerge from the right will be destroyed by the little president man’s media. That’s not the same as living in a democracy.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:26 pm #
I really think you’re giving more power to Newsweak than is really warranted, hf.
I mean, who reads that?
Also note that circulation numbers and readers aren’t the same. The only place I ever remember seeing that rag is in a doctor or dentist’s office, and I don’t remember even seeing it there recently (although granted I might not have noticed because I always have my own portable reading material and Internet access with me these days).
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:29 pm #
It’s not about who reads it… the little president man’s Newsweek ably distills its propaganda to a cover photo that sits at the checkstand of every grocery store in America.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 11/14 @ 3:30 pm #
You are a fool.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:31 pm #
Maybe so, but I don’t think it’s working, hf.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:35 pm #
oh meya/RD where have you gone?
Barry acts like a real Uncle Tom in Japan and you want to defend him, right?
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:36 pm #
That was before the Constitution explicitly prohibited titles of nobility, you fucking moron.
And Franklin wasn’t our head of state, you fucking moron.
Try again.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:36 pm #
we’ll see… I think Sarah has a kid whose future she needs to secure.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:37 pm #
right now Stanford is playing rings around ‘SC
and I’m grumpy about it.
fair warning, trolls.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:37 pm #
My #88 was in response to a post that’s been deleted, in case you were puzzled.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:38 pm #
I was puzzled. I scrolled and scrolled.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:38 pm #
SBP
I’m having little tolerance for threadjacking or sockpuppeting by stinkfinger right now.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:39 pm #
Someone dredged up a drawing of Benjamin Franklin bowing to Louis XIV.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:39 pm #
No need to apologize for deleting something that stupid, Darleen.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:42 pm #
stinkfinger, like meya/RD, deliberately ignores there is a difference between familiarity between equals and obsequiousness.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 3:43 pm #
i wonder how much reprogramming david axelrod’s monster&trade needed to do the complete bow
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:44 pm #
#96 Looks like they’re walking side by side as equals to me, troll, which of course as the heads of their respective governments, they are.
Do keep trying, though.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:44 pm #
comeon Stinky
defend Uncle Tom Obama.
Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 3:44 pm #
It’s the weirdest thing, I think I just saw a Cardinal unwrapping a condom. God only knows what that Cardinal is planning on doing.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:44 pm #
I can’t believe anyone would think that.
Hint: that would because you’re both stupid and dishonest.
Now explain to us why a “progressive” would want to suck “royal” dick.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:45 pm #
How about you talk about Obama? That BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH! mantra is pretty much past it’s sell-by date, don’t you think?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 3:46 pm #
A cardinal sin maybe?
Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 3:47 pm #
Stan’s to reason hf.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:47 pm #
I can’t believe anyone would think that
But meya/RD, you are defending Obama’s bow of inferiority while the rest of us are criticizing him for acting like an Uncle Tom.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:48 pm #
I always thought that this guy had the coolest name/title combo EVAR!!!1!
Apparently he had a sense of humor about it, too.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 3:49 pm #
Right, Darleen.
Blowbama is bowing deeply.
The Emperor is not.
You’d think that an expert on “multiculturalism” like SFAG would understand the significance of that.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:50 pm #
GW and the Pope
looks like mutual admiration to me.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 3:51 pm #
SBP
It’s pretty simple if one understands Japanese culture.
It is up to the Left to defend why they think Barry acting like an Uncle Tom is acceptable.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 4:08 pm #
Why are the R ones handing this homo the conch?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 4:10 pm #
he just wants to join his girlfriend Lindsey so they can play cap-n-trade dress-up games together
Comment by JHo on 11/14 @ 4:11 pm #
You’re here to run your mind around in lying circles, aren’t you? Just admit it, meya, and save us all some time.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 4:13 pm #
Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) damaged his 100 per cent abortion rights voting record by supporting Stupak-Pitts.*
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 4:14 pm #
Ah, meya/RD thinks Obama being an Uncle Tom is A-Ok!
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 4:20 pm #
72.Comment by Salt Lick on 11/14 @ 3:12 pm
Salt Lick, with all due respect, I don’t thing Obama “hates” America. He is a Progressive utopian — he loves the America that he believes he can shape with his ideology. He truly believes the Founding Fathers “missed” some things (his utopian ideals) and he is just the “fulfillment” of his own imaginings.
He is, of course, wrong. Deadly wrong. But he was still elected, still the CinC and still the President of the USA.
As a citizen, I have to accept that and work to oppose his policies, expose corruption of his quasi-criminal administration and elect his successor.
Anything else, that way spells madness.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 4:22 pm #
meya
Where’s the pic of GW on bended knee that you asserted? GW and Pope tipped their heads to each other (see the link @ #111).
Face it… you are defending Uncle Tom Obama.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 4:22 pm #
Kirk is a member of some moderate to liberal Republican groups such as [Meghan's coward daddy's] Republican Main Street Partnership…
Kirk has spoken out about protecting children on the Internet and has introduced bills to require parental permission for certain networking sites such as Second Life.
In 2006, he cosponsored H.R. 4411, the Goodlatte-Leach Internet Gambling Prohibition Act that would ban online poker and H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act.
In June 2009 Kirk introduced legislation to increase the penalties for selling kush, a high potency set of strains of marijuana.[27] The High-Potency Marijuana Sentencing Enhancement Act of 2009…
*
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 4:22 pm #
RD/meya
put up or FOAD.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 4:30 pm #
looks like back to drawing board for mr axelrod’s monster:
“Here is one of many websites that illustrates how to bow in Japan. The one thing that virtually everyone who teaches bowing etiquette stresses is under no circumstance try to combine a bow with a handshake.
The Emperor appears to smile, which is something polite Japanese are taught to do when embarrassed. Unlike just about everyone who comes into the Emperor’s presence, Obama obviously received no instruction on Imperial etiquette. (Note: The Japanese take their monarch and etiquette in general about 100 times more seriously than do the British.)
That’s fine with me. I wouldn’t like our president to receive such instructions from a foreign entity. But he obviously did not indicate to any of the American embassy staff, nor to any aides familiar with Japan that he intended to bow, and bow deeply. Anyone with about two days’ familiarity with Japan knows about bowing. The average person in Japan bows dozens of times a day. You see it everywhere.
Another fundamental precept of the ordinary bow: it must be reciprocated. To do otherwise is a grave insult. Yet, we see in this short video clip that the Emperor did not even nod his head. To be honest, I am not sure the Emperor is ever supposed to bow back to anyone. He is, after all, according to Shinto, a god.”
here
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 4:30 pm #
then what was the point of talking about how racist the nippers are?
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 4:42 pm #
i think mr axelrod should fire whoever is doing the monster’s programming:
“I suspect the poor Emperor was so shocked by the faux pas that he just pretended it didn’t happen. That is one way Japanese people deal with breaches of etiquette, especially from the powerful who are also ignorant. But the end resilt is that Obama has been snubbed royally. Imperially, in fact.
All in all, a disgrace. The only redeeming feature is that at least he did not bow his head and bend his knee, as he did with the Saudi monarch.”
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 4:42 pm #
I mean, what if he had knelt before the nazi pope?
and what’s with the “nazi pope” lie, too, RD? Gad, your bigotry stinks.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 4:45 pm #
does our president not taking instruction on “Imperial etiquette” rank in you guys’ subservience scale?
ALL American Presidents have an Office of Protocol.
Barry either has an incompetent one or he just ignores them and reverts to Stepin Fetchit when meeting foreign [non-white] royalty (he certainly didn’t bow to Britain’s Queen)
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 4:46 pm #
Chicago street trash to be specific.
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Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 5:01 pm #
Obama obviously received no instruction on Imperial etiquette
He doesn’t need “instruction on Imperial etiquette” to know that the President of the United States does not bow down to a foreign potentate.
Ever.
But do keep trying, SFAG.
Comment by Americaneocon on 11/14 @ 5:02 pm #
American Power tracked back with (the best video evah!), ‘Bowing Before Monarchs and Tyrants: Obama ‘Restores’ America’s World Standing With His Head Down – UPDATE: REAGAN DIDN’T BOW!!’.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 5:03 pm #
You brought race into it meya everyone else was just appalled. I don’t know what country he thinks he’s the little president man of but he doesn’t act like it’s this one.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 5:04 pm #
Was it subservient enough?
I repeat: you’re not even trying.
Your Personal Progressive Lord and Savior bowed down to an Emperor.
Now, I realize that the cognitive dissonance must be sticking in the craw of even someone as self-deluding and stupid as you, but do try to salvage what few remaining scraps of dignity you have left.
You can’t defend this, SFAG. Not by American principles. Not even by your Marxist principles.
Stop trying.
Comment by JHo on 11/14 @ 5:11 pm #
meya should train for a job in sophistry.
Oh wait.
Comment by B Moe on 11/14 @ 5:21 pm #
When he gets to China he should scratch under his arms and hop around going “ooh, oooh, oooh”.
That will really crack them up.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 5:22 pm #
the monster speaks:
““As America’s first Pacific president,” said President Obama in Tokyo, “I promise you that this Pacific nation will strengthen and sustain our leadership in this vitally important part of the world.”
It is true that the president was born in Hawaii (sorry, birthers), lived from ages six to ten in Indonesia, and attended a Honolulu prep school. But he is not our first Pacific president. Richard Nixon was born in California in 1913, and spent much more of his life in the Pacific region than the current president has. Moreover, while Barack Obama made his career in Chicago and Springfield, Ronald Reagan made his in Los Angeles and Sacramento.
And the incumbent is hardly the first chief executive to have lived in another Pacific Rim country. William Howard Taft was governor-general of the Philippines. Dwight Eisenhower had military postings in the Philippines and the Panama Canal Zone. Herbert Hoover worked as a mining engineer in Australia and China; he even learned to speak Mandarin. Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Bush 41 all served in the Pacific during the Second World War. What they did as adults was perhaps more consequential than what Obama did as a child.”
here
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 5:26 pm #
newrouter
American history begins with Obama.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 5:34 pm #
I think by “first Pacific President” he means “first President to prostrate himself before the hereditary ruler of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere”.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 5:35 pm #
#135: I think this is the accepted “diplomatic” form in China, B Moe.
Comment by B Moe on 11/14 @ 5:42 pm #
No shit, SPB.
A commenter at Ace’s just cut and pasted this without attribute or link, so I don’t know where it is from, but it is such a great point I think it needs spreading:
I think self-effacing bureaucratic toady is a pretty good descriptor.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 5:52 pm #
What this man has done is the equivalent of dipping the national colors. When I think of where the colors have been, I get very angry. This President is using the office as his personal “Hey, look at me” plaything. What he either fails to understand or doesn’t care aboiut, is that he is not simply a private citizen. He is the head of state. What he did today is inexcusable.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/14 @ 5:58 pm #
Without reading any comments, and just seeing this for the first time:
This is a fucking disgrace.
Obama should resign the office of the Preidency for being a feckless fool.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/14 @ 6:01 pm #
“Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 12:10 pm #
Haha, I think he just does it to make the wingnuts wee wee themselves.”
Do you sit around by the computer in your Mom’s basement all day long in order to
1.) be the first to post on everything put up on theis forum?
And
2.) Prove with every such post that you are a moronic cocksucker?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 6:03 pm #
Russia already plays our goof-ass little president man like a fiddle. I think it’s more likely that the Chinese will take their cues for them ones.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 6:09 pm #
bow now brown monster
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/14 @ 6:09 pm #
“Comment by meya on 11/14 @ 2:21 pm #
” There’s good manners, and there is indicating that you are the inferior in the relationship.”
There’s indicating that you are inferior, and there is actually being inferior.”
Which O!bama is admitting.
Comment by B Moe on 11/14 @ 6:09 pm #
Have the Japanese Emperors always been Hobbits?
Comment by Barrack Milhouse Obama on 11/14 @ 6:11 pm #
If you really want to know, I am just tired of Michelle cutting off the top of my head in all of our vacation pictures.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/14 @ 6:13 pm #
“Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 2:37 pm #
but as a representative of the rest of us
What happened to, “Not my President?””
He’s not. Not any more.
Not after this display of gross ignorance and moronic subserviance to the fucking Emperor of fucking Japan.
Japan.
We fucking NUKED those bastards.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 6:14 pm #
mr axelrod these images show how the monster needs to be programmed:
here
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 6:27 pm #
So how about it Darleen, we don’t want the president to get too protocoled right?
So how about it RD/meya, we don’t want the President of the USA to be an Uncle Tom, right?
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 6:28 pm #
So how about it Darleen, we don’t want the president to get too protocoled right?
Care to show how this was the proper protocol?
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Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 6:32 pm #
If Obama has to be an Oreo of any sort, I’m thinking its going to have to be one of these.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 6:35 pm #
i think that the monster throwing up on the nip would be much better than this
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 6:36 pm #
I don’t understand why meya wants people to call the little president man an oreo. The little president man’s blackness is a lot like Meghan’s coward daddy’s war hero blah blah blah. It’s neat and all but it’s not a voting issue.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 6:36 pm #
the monster is a watermelon i denounced that description
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 6:37 pm #
This is going to resonate with a large part of America. Here is why:
It started with this.
Which led to this.
And on it went.
Until this.
See, the man he bowed so deeply to was the son of the man who started it all. There are many still living that fought in that war. Many more have relatives who did so. Barcky spit on their memory today. What the hell, history started on 1/20/09 right, meya?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/14 @ 6:37 pm #
“Comment by meya on 11/14 @ 3:43 pm #
“Barry acts like a real Uncle Tom in Japan and you want to defend him, right?”
I can’t believe anyone would think that.”
Then you’re a fucking moron, moron.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 6:42 pm #
Since Barcky is headed to China I hope someone filled him in on this. Long history between the two. Bowing to Japan, but not China might be somewhat troublesome. Hope he doesn’t have lower back problems.
Comment by B Moe on 11/14 @ 6:45 pm #
Here you go, meya. Explained to you by one of your own.
Read it and weep, you pin-headed buffoon.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/14 @ 6:47 pm #
“I’d love to hear you call him an Oreo, or run through the rest of black stereotype history.”
Did your Mom repeatedly drop you on your head when you were a baby, you fucking moronic moron, or is it genetic?
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 6:49 pm #
History means nothing to you does it meya? You ignore the whole post and single out one sentence for your snark. You are an unserious person unworthy of futher attention. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
Comment by B Moe on 11/14 @ 6:52 pm #
Thick as a fucking brick, and by God proud of it.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/14 @ 6:55 pm #
“Comment by meya on 11/14 @ 6:52 pm #
“Here you go, meya. Explained to you by one of your own.”
Oh. So you don’t want him to bow to white folks. Ok.”
He didn’t bow to a white man, you moronic moron.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/14 @ 6:55 pm #
My vote goes to “genetic”.
Because even the brain-damaged occasionally shows falshes of sense.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/14 @ 6:56 pm #
“flashes”
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 7:01 pm #
i’m confused how is a guy in an office superior to sprinters? is it racist to hire sprinters? the art historian reads alot into the little ad like finding the baby jesus was a dirty socialist
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 7:03 pm #
i like mr art historian i really do but when comparing pics of slavery to this ad must be the reason all the perps in the home security coms are white dudes
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 7:05 pm #
i think mr art historian makes stuff up so his delusions are made real
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 7:07 pm #
I think it’s important to have fast computers and it’s a sign of respect when the man gives you a fast computer cause you really can do more work for the man that way and also check out blogs and stuff. If you have a slow computer you probably don’t have as much job security as you think you do.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 7:08 pm #
mr. art rooney liked the O! would pics of him standing next to a crouching hines ward make that pic racist
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 7:12 pm #
Wonder what this former president would think of Barcky’s bow. Somehow I don’t think the two would get along well. One being a wartime president, the other being a sissy. Harry’s “The buck stops here” to Barcky’s “The buck stop over there, way over there.”
Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 7:18 pm #
You all saw Obama talking about (well, not talking about, really) the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It’s the brief moments like this that do more than anyone else could to confirm his thorough-going emptiness.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 7:25 pm #
“Here’s the key part of the transcript:
… Now, obviously Japan has unique perspective on the issue of nuclear weapons as a consequence of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And that I’m sure helps to motivate the Prime Minister’s deep interest in this issue. I certainly would be honored, it would be meaningful for me to visit those two cities in the future. I don’t have immediate travel plans, but it’s something that would be meaningful to me.
You had one more question, and I’m not sure I remember it. Was it North Korea?
Q Whether or not you believe that the U.S. dropped a nuclear weapon on Hiroshima and Nagasaki — it was right?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: No, there were three sets of questions, right? You asked about North Korea?
How pathetic. In fact, though, it’s probably just as well Obama didn’t say what he really thought. In his speech on nuclear proliferation in Prague, Obama at least suggested that Truman did the wrong thing by bringing World War II to a decisive end:
[A]s the only nuclear power to have used a nuclear weapon, the United States has a moral responsibility to act.
If Barack Obama can’t stick up for the country he represents when he goes overseas, he should stay home.”
here
Comment by Lisa on 11/14 @ 7:28 pm #
These shots below are how Presidents should greet foreign leaders:
Eisenhower and the pope
Eisenhower and Charles de Gaulle
George W. Bush and the Pope
George W. Bush and King Faud
Comment by Harry S Truman on 11/14 @ 7:32 pm #
This guy’s an embarassment. Of course when I was around, democrats actually wanted to win wars.
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 7:38 pm #
Lisa
Pic #1 …mutual bows
Pic #2 … huh? where’s the sequence? Eisenhower and DeGaulle were both military generals and were friendly afterwards, so I don’t buy your assertion about the pic
Pic #3 … again mutual bows, part of a sequence
Pic #4 … different culture but still a meeting between equals
Maybe you want to defend Obama acting like an Uncle Tom?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 7:40 pm #
The little president man is an abject whore when he goes overseas. Abject and callow.
This won’t end well.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 7:41 pm #
Hahaha,
Did Darleen really stoop to calling Obama an Uncle Tom?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 7:47 pm #
He has no concept of dignity, this little president person. His hoochie with her who’s a pretty bluebird I’m a pretty bluebird outfit at the cemetery the other day, same thing.
I’m really starting to like this Robyn person. She’s cute as a little swedish pickle and also she says I press trigger I don’t press people button. That’s just an exceedingly cool thing to say.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 8:04 pm #
That’s nice, Lisa. Here are a few more recent examples. Why is it so hard for you on the left to admit that maybe, just maybe, the guy isn’t perfect?
Comment by Rusty on 11/14 @ 8:09 pm #
#180
Anything but admit you elected a loser. You know he’s doing a bad job and you know he’s a disaster diplomatically, but you would rather look like a fool than admit it. Why did I expect more intellectual honesty from you. Now I’m the fool.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 8:18 pm #
that’s not our Lisa is it? I miss our Lisa.
You’re really floundering here meya.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 8:19 pm #
“looks like your link worked out just fine b moe.”
because we want to follow idiots holding their grudges on their sniveling sleeves.
nice al sharpton tactic
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 8:19 pm #
BigD
GOOD LORD…did you see the video of the meeting? Not only did Obama bow once, but he kept bobbing his head toward them over and over again.
YIKES!!
Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 8:21 pm #
Protocol or diplomacy are entirely uninteresting emptiness, precisely the stuff Obama seems to want to appear to be made of. The better answer is one he needn’t pretend to but what he thinks or if you prefer, believes.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 8:22 pm #
“You all saw Obama talking about (well, not talking about, really) the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It’s the brief moments like this that do more than anyone else could to confirm his thorough-going emptiness.”
So what does protocol or diplomcay say the answer should be here?
“I regret that it was necessary.”
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 8:25 pm #
BigD
GOOD LORD…did you see the video of the meeting? Not only did Obama bow once, but he kept bobbing his head toward them over and over again.
YIKES!!
Indeed I did. When you factor in the events of the 20th century, it becomes incomprehensible that he would do such a thing. Hopefully it is beginning to dawn on most that he is a petty, shallow man. He is the peter principle incarnate.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 8:29 pm #
look consumers this is the beta version of mr axelrod’s monster. please wait for the software updates before complaining
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 8:31 pm #
and stop watching fox news
Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 8:40 pm #
“I regret that it was necessary.”
See, that’s you Big D, saying what you believe to be so or what you may hope Obama would believe.
But that would no way be what I think Obama himself would say, were he to figure out what he would say and then say it. But that, in turn, is just me guessing about Obama, because he hasn’t gone to the trouble to explain how we are to understand his beliefs or what he stands on. To the contrary, he has said one thing and done or said the opposite a few days later so often it is impossible to know with any confidence where he stands (or if he stands) on nearly any issue you might care to name. Outside not liking the United States of America very much. At least on that score he has been remarkably consistent.
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Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 8:47 pm #
i wonder what mr art historian would say if it watched a few college football games
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 8:49 pm #
See, that’s you Big D, saying what you believe to be so or what you may hope Obama would believe.
She asked what the correct diplomatic answer should be.
If they asked me my answer would have been, “You had designs on world domination and we ended those. Your country was responsible for untold death and destruction. Come to terms with your own history before asking for any explanation. In short, you screwed with the wrong people. Next?”
But then, I don’t have to be diplomatic.
Comment by newrouter on 11/14 @ 8:51 pm #
the correct answer is: rape of nanking loser, battan death march and pearl harbor
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 9:00 pm #
“but as a representative of the rest of us
What happened to, “Not my President?””
He’s not. Not any more.
Not after this display of gross ignorance and moronic subserviance to the fucking Emperor of fucking Japan.
Japan.
We fucking NUKED those bastards.”
This moron is one reason why it will take another generation to re-establish this nation’s reputation.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 9:09 pm #
This moron is one reason why it will take another generation to re-establish this nation’s reputation.
Establish our reputation as what, cynn?
That’s a serious question, BTW. We have covered a lot of ground in this thread. I’m curious as to what you think the president is trying to establish and do you think it was a good idea to do what he did today.
Comment by Harry S Truman on 11/14 @ 9:18 pm #
I sure as hell know what Mel’s answer would have been. Part of me is glad that he didn’t see this.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 9:21 pm #
Stupid sockpuppet. These are the travails of going back and forth between the iphone and desktop.
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 9:25 pm #
I think it is fine what he did. I also think it was appropriate to exhibit deference in the other outrageous instances. America is no longer the swift nimble beast you think it is. I believe it to be a massive, lumbering slug that is trying to attach itself to whatever means of capital that it can find.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 9:49 pm #
SFAG: So what does protocol or diplomcay say the answer should be here?
Next time don’t murder five million people and launch an unprovoked attack on the United States?
You’re not having much luck at crapweaseling tonight, are you, SFAG?
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 9:54 pm #
Thanks for the answer, cynn. Your choice of the word deference is interesting. Here is the definition from Webster:
Main Entry: def·er·ence
Pronunciation: \ˈde-fə-rən(t)s, ˈdef-rən(t)s\
Function: noun
Date: 1660
: respect and esteem due a superior or an elder; also : affected or ingratiating regard for another’s wishes
An elder perhaps, but a superior? That is where we part company, cynn. What he did today is the equivalent of dipping the national colors. That I can not accept from any president.
I may not like him much, but he is my president, the head of my country. When he goes overseas he represents us all. I would simply like him to act like he’s the head of the most powerful nation on earth rather than the leader of just one of many. Seeing as how all presidents before him, both Republican and Democrat, got that right, it’s not too much to ask.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 9:55 pm #
Not to say that is correct, I’m rather indifferent.
Of course you are. It happened before 1/20/09 therefore it is irrelevant.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 9:58 pm #
Yes, you are correct, meya. There had to be an election before there was an inauguration. Good girl. Here’s a pudding cup.
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 9:59 pm #
Big D: We have a lot of patching up to do. Allow the president some ceremonial fluff.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 10:01 pm #
Patching up to do with Japan? Bush maintained amazing relations with Japan, cynn. Weaktard is not all about strengthening our successful alliances. He could give a shit I think.
Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 10:04 pm #
Would only that the man could do better by our allies, as opposed to slapping them in the face at every turn while pretending to be their bestest friend ever, he could have all the ceremonial fluff he wanted. Far from patching up though, he seems to be intent on turning stable and mutually profitable relationships to shite, all to suit his overblown estimation of himself and his reckoning of his great works in the world.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 10:04 pm #
(sound of the point whooshing right over SFAG’s head about about Mach 4)
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 10:06 pm #
So why shouldn’t Obamas honoe the Emperor with a bow? You guys are groping big time.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:06 pm #
Big D: We have a lot of patching up to do. Allow the president some ceremonial fluff.
This is why I like you, cynn. We can disagree without being disgreeable. I wasn’t aware that we had a problem with Japan. Had he given a slight bow as to an equal, I would have no problem. What he did was bow as a subordinate and that is unacceptable behavior for a president.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:09 pm #
In case you missed it upthread, cynn. Here are some examples of other heads of state greeting the emperor. You can be respectful and polite without being subservient.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 10:10 pm #
So why shouldn’t Obamas honoe the Emperor with a bow?
Because he is President of the United States.
Which does not recognize titles of nobility.
You STUPID FUCKING BITCH.
Hope that helps!
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/14 @ 10:12 pm #
meya/RD you’ve lost all credibility since Jeff G discovered that deleting one of your comments seemed to magically delete the others party’s also. Is RD your alter ego, or is it more of a <mental thing?
“Not to say that is correct, I’m rather indifferent.”
Why is it I get the impression that you are a member of the, “America was an eeeeeevollll nation that needed to be put in her place!1!1!!eleventy; until, of course, his O!-ness descended from moun Obamus to, rightly so, apologize to the world for our unfair bullying, acting in our national interests *shudder-gasp*, using an unfair amount of energy, and hoarding an unfair amount of wealth which, in all fairness, should be distributed evenly among the poor people of Africa, Asia, and the rest of the third world that were bullied by those meanie, h8tey, white males…”
Indiffernce is the problem, both individuals as well as Obama’s; dithering while America metaphorically “burns”…
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 10:12 pm #
…and your answer to The Baatan Death March and the Rape of Nanking is, Emperor? Oh, you’re not talking about the Emperor of Japan are you.
Actually, you’re the moron. See, Japan, much like many (see:just about all of them) other societies respect strength. America, by winning the Spirit vs. Industrialism (also known by it’s less common name; World War 2), showed Japan where they stood on the totem pole. The Japanese accepted this wholeheartedly. That’s why they became such steadfast allies after we NUKED THEM. We showed who was stronger, and they understood that, and were happy with their place in the world. Mind you, this according to their societal values, not yours, or mine.
Thus, in an uncertain time, when China is becoming ascendant through both economic and military power, and is willing to flex this power, Japan has cause to be worried. We are their shield. By treaty and social convention, we have assumed the responsibility for protecting Japan. Now, President O! has upset the apple cart by showing the people he’s supposed to be protecting that he doesn’t know how to even greet their spiritual leader properly. Courtesy is simple, as is supposedly knowing your status, as in who is supposed to be following your lead. O! has shown that he isn’t sure of his status, and is therefore a weak leader. This simple faux paux has probably made the Japanese leaders, er, a tad worried about the future.
Face it, O! just destabilized Asia a wee bit further. Asia, to be honest, doesn’t believe in unicorns. They know O! is a weak horse now, even if they only suspected it before. They hold no illusion now.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:15 pm #
One of the peripheral issues I have with this is that apparently all monarchs are not equal.
King Faud – Bow
Emperor of Japan – Huge Bow
Queen Elizabeth – Pat on the back and an ipod
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 10:15 pm #
SBP, you are not king of the universe. But in case you are, fix the world. Or else, shut the fuck up. Notice I am in control of my italics?
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:17 pm #
Hi Bob. Long time so see. How are you?
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:19 pm #
Oh crap! Cynn’s the HTML police. Cheese it everybody!
Comment by Darleen on 11/14 @ 10:20 pm #
SBP, you are not king of the universe
however, cynn, SBP seems to know a great deal more about Presidential protocol than Obama Christ.
how the hell can you comment on something you are so studiously and proudly ignorant of?
oh god, rhetorical that…
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/14 @ 10:21 pm #
“They know O! is a weak horse now, even if they only suspected it before. They hold no illusion now.”
You’re correct Kresh; it’s worse than Carter could have ever been. I mean, in Jeeem-uhhz day there were at least Democratic Legislators and Senators that were actually interested in national defense and America’s standing in the world…
Lord Obamus could give a tinkers damn about those things save for how they might adversely effect his electoral success; evidenced by his campaign promises to go all kill-crazy, sooper-trooper on the “good” war in Afghanistan, but which in actuality he’s willing to lose as a sop to his liberal base…
I better get out the duct tape ‘cuz it feels like my head is ready to explode…
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 10:23 pm #
Kresh: You are fucking delusional. But monetize it; I hear anything goes.
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 10:25 pm #
SBP, you are not king of the universe.
That’s rather the point, drunkbot.
I don’t believe in kings. Or emperors. Or “nobles” of any kind.
Neither does our Constitution. You know, that “flawed document” that Obama swore to uphold?
We even fought a war about that. Really!
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/14 @ 10:27 pm #
Hey Big D,
I’m fine, thanks for asking. I hope all is OK down your way too; of course, you are in Texas so maybe that’s an unnecessary question!
I’ve been around, just at odd hours lately. I have a lot of weekend obligations these days.
Be Cool!
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:34 pm #
Come on, cynn. I provided you with several examples of how other world leaders greeted the very dame person. Even the head of Kazakhstan didn’t bow. Are you really saying that it is right and proper for the president of the United States to do so?
I generally liked GW Bush, but I also had instances of disagreement. It is possible to do so, cynn. To agree vociferously on everything Obama does borders on a cult.
He screwed the pooch here, cynn. Their not going to tear you card up if you admit it.
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 10:35 pm #
Well, SPB, have you fixed the world yet? Ok, I’ll expect it in the morning.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:35 pm #
Dammit. dame person=same person. Jeez. I blame Bush
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:37 pm #
Yeah Spies, when are you going to pay my mortgage and fill my gas tank? What about my unicorn? Some King of the Universe you are.
Oh, wait…
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 10:37 pm #
I can see why they call you an idiot. I’m not arguing my take on it from my value system. I’m noting how the Japanese (and other Asian societies) will see it, based on their values, not mine or yours. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING? See, I’ve actually done a fair bit of research on Japanese society, and by extension, other Asian societies. I’ve spent time in serious conversation with, lived with, and asked hard and involved questions of actual Japanese people who lived in Japan, about their culture and how their society thinks. Am I an expert? Probably not, at least I don’t consider myself an expert. What I do know, however, is what they think of idiot gaikoku-jin who enter their country and are ignorant of their proper polite courtesies. Based on your statements, you haven’t the slightest clue about what anyone but yourself thinks.
Fact is, O! screwed up. Nothing you say or think will change this basic fact. It is not opinion, it is fact.
You are the delusional one here. Now, stop posting until you know what the hell you’re talking about. The adults are trying to have a serious conversation here.
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 10:39 pm #
Big D: You just don’t get it.
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 10:39 pm #
Oh yeah! Thanks for the Robyn clip, happyfeet! It’d very nice!
I like her voice.
/hf inspired hijack
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:40 pm #
Bob, I guess I could have said long time no S-E-E or S-E-A. Heh. At any rate, glad to hear things are going well.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 10:40 pm #
Big D: You just don’t get it.
Enlighten me.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/14 @ 10:41 pm #
Darn it, gotta go; I have guests to entertain…
All the best!
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 10:41 pm #
Well, SPB, have you fixed the world yet?
1) Never promised that.
2) Unlike Plastic Jesus, I don’t make promises I can’t keep.
3) You are a moron.
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 10:42 pm #
FreaoutKresh: That was then, this is now.
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 10:44 pm #
Nice way of saying you agree with me.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 10:45 pm #
you are welcome. cynn you should be more nicer to Mr. Kresh.
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 10:46 pm #
I don’t. Ever.
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Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 10:48 pm #
Disagree with me? It’s a good start in getting you educated. There’s hope for you yet!
Comment by B Moe on 11/14 @ 10:50 pm #
Did Obama really stoop to shine the Emperor’s shoes?
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 10:54 pm #
You’re an imbecile. Are you an expert on China and Japan? Didn’t think so…
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 10:55 pm #
Are you an expert on China and Japan?
Are you?
Dumbass.
Comment by sdferr on 11/14 @ 10:58 pm #
We had a comment from westsoundmodern who wrote this piece about bowing in Japan on his blog. He quotes a comment he saw at another blog:
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 11:01 pm #
The first step in enlightenment is understanding that you know nothing. Of course, your assumption that because you know nothing, neither does anyone else, isn’t quite the same thing. It is, however, a good start.
HF, pleased to not be calling me Mister Kresh. Instead, try this instead. Just Kresh is fine, or even maybe a shouted HEY YOU!
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 11:02 pm #
HF, here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PmXt7rq-HY&NR=1
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 11:02 pm #
The fact is that I do get it, cynn. Many here are either current or former military. Many of us have fought and some have bled for the country we love. All of us were prepared to make the supreme sacrifice or as Lincoln said, the last full measure of devotion. We love our country and have given much to prove that devotion. For us it is not theory. It is not a professor standing in a classroom. We know what this country is, what it stands for. We have seen it all. Man’s inhumanity to man is a terrible thing.
We have been in all places in the world. We come from all backgrounds and all regions of the country. We know what it is like to sacrifice and we know what it means. All we have ever asked is that sacrifice be appreciated, both by leadership and the citizenry at large.
We have seen the worst of humanity and also the best. We know what it is to lose a brother, but continue on. We did it for no other reason than we loved our other brothers and our country.
All of us, whether young or old, active or retired stand tall when the colors go by. We get a chill down the spine and the hair on our necks rises when the national anthem is played. All of us, every damn one of us who ever wore a uniform, would pick up a rifle and head out again if our country needed us.
I don’t expect you to acknowledge or even understand this. Few do. This is who we are.
Maybe this will explain the visceral reaction to the action of the CIC.
Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 11:03 pm #
Would you like to defend this?
but as a representative of the rest of us
What happened to, “Not my President?””
He’s not. Not any more.
Not after this display of gross ignorance and moronic subserviance to the fucking Emperor of fucking Japan.
Japan.
We fucking NUKED those bastards.
Bye Bye.
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Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 11:10 pm #
ok Kresh person you bet – I saw that girl the other day… she likes milk a lot. She’s cute but something’s missing. Something that this Amanda girl isn’t missing.
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 11:11 pm #
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Comment by cynn on 11/14 @ 11:03 pm #
That comment was 5 hours and 150 comments ago. You have nothing else?
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 11:16 pm #
Big D was just more visceral than others. His opinion is as valid as any other. He’s also not wrong.
It’s just that O! has spent so much time making a mockery of the Office of The President through his daily gaffes, and complete ignorance of other societies and their customs(which, oddly enough, makes him more of a bumbling chicago-bred-wannabe-cowboy than Bush ever was), most of us aren’t surprised anymore. I don’t think any less of O! because of what he’s done, I just know what the ramifications will be on the political stage.
I think it just sunk in for Big D what an utter clueless tool our El Presidente is. I mean, after all, wasn’t O! supposed to be this multilateral super-Non-Going-Alone kinda guy? Wouldn’t that indicate that he knew what he was doing on the world stage? Wouldn’t that mean that he would at least try to discover what his actions mean to other cultures that he’s supposed to be getting to like us again?
Then again, I mean, Japan likes us, so fuck them. Right Cynn?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 11:18 pm #
here’s more Amanda. I like her attitude. I think she might could break out.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/14 @ 11:18 pm #
Did Obama really stoop to shine the Emperor’s shoes?
Uncle Tom, shoeshine boy?
Can lawn jockey be far behind from the Not Racist (Honest!) Right?
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 11:20 pm #
Ooooh, Happyfeet! That was awesome!
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 11:20 pm #
#245: Sorry, hf, but that guy reminds me of a Keith Richards quote: “Shave and go home.”
Comment by Big D on 11/14 @ 11:22 pm #
Thanks for validating the opinion, Kresh, but nothing is just now sinking in. I’ve had this guy’s number from the start.
Comment by Kresh on 11/14 @ 11:23 pm #
Mea culpa.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 11:25 pm #
he’s French, Spies… they’re just kinda that way
Comment by SBP on 11/14 @ 11:26 pm #
Ah, it was George Michael that Keith said that about. I think he may be French too or something.
Heh.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/14 @ 11:30 pm #
George would have done better being a smack addict than, well, you know.
Comment by Big D on 11/15 @ 12:14 am #
I’ve been steadily building into a classic rage all day and am now ready to erupt. Snocone, meya, and to a lesser extent cynn, let me tell you about someone very close to me. Growing up, he would not ever speak of his experiences. It was not until I had earned the right to call myself a United States Marine would he speak of his exploits.
He was the son of a dirt farmer in Nyssa, Oregon who joined the Marine Corps in January of 1941. He went in with one of his best friends with the understanding that they would get to serve in the same unit/locale. That didn’t happen. After graduating boot camp and ITS he went to fifth Marines, his buddy to the fourth. He was in California, his best friend went to Shanghai. That was the last time they saw each other. The 4th Marines were transferred to the PI as it became clear that China would fall to the Japanese. The last letter he received was from was from the PI. Whether his friend died in battle, on the death march, or in captivity is unknown. His remains were never recovered.
My Uncle first went into battle on Guadalcanal. He was in the first wave that went ashore, but that was just the beginning. He was wounded on Edson’s ridge later to be known as “Bloody Ridge” for the carnage.
He spent time on a hospital ship. but made it back into the 1st MarDiv for the invasion of Pellilieu, Saipan, and Tinian.
His final battle was on the slopes of Mt Suribachi on Iwo Jima. He told me that the funniest thing was that the briefers would always say to not worry, that naval gunfire has softened the beach. That was a bitch of a battle.
Respecting the space here, I want to offer up a small synopsis of his service.
He went out to secure a piece of real estate occupied by several Japanese. According to the citation, he attacked with absolute disregard to his own personal safety, a unit no smaller than a platoon. During the engagement, he was bayoneted in the neck. He pulled the rifle away from his opponent and defeated him with it. (He beat him to death with his own rifle as Mel put it) He was subsequently shot twice more, once in the left thigh and the right upper arm, but killed no less than 20 of the enemy. For this he was decorated with the Navy Cross.
Over the years I got much more of the detail out of him, but that is the reader’s digest version.
If he were here today and saw what the commander in chief did, the expletives would have flown.
Perhaps it is you, cynn, that just doesn’t get it.
Comment by SBP on 11/15 @ 12:41 am #
Thanks for sharing that with us, Big D.
Comment by len .langan on 11/15 @ 1:21 am #
So The United States, still a world power, has at last got a President with the good manners to accommodate the customs of other cultures. A man of real stature. His detractors are pathetic for his courtesy will bring a higher level of respect amongst the nations than their absurd pride and immaturity. The majority of countries with a monarchy hold their royal failies in great respect. Do grow up and realise that you have a Great Man Leading you.
Comment by Big D on 11/15 @ 1:31 am #
OK len. Do grow up and realize if it wasn’t for the US, you would be under tyranny. From your post you are obviously european. Twice last century we sent our sons to liberate your lands. We kept only the ground to bury our dead. When we left, we gave it all back to you. I think I can speak for all who have served in the military to protect your sorry ass when I give you a hearty GET BENT.
Comment by Big D on 11/15 @ 1:36 am #
Thanks for sharing that with us, Big D.
My pleasure, Spies. I wish I coulod share it with more. I begged him to write it down, but he never would. I am furiously writing down for the sake of my children as I don’t want it to be lost. WWII was only the beginning for him. The man was a fry cook, handyman, commercial fisherman, wildcatter, and held numerous other positions . I only knew him later in life as he was working for my father in the 80’s before they both kicked it over and retired.
Comment by Ric Locke on 11/15 @ 1:48 am #
No, len.
We have a “man” “leading” us who just admitted that his social status is “toilet cleaner”. This is not a mark of greatness.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by sdferr on 11/15 @ 2:09 am #
Since when, I wonder, has Great Man been defined by excessive pusillanimity?
Comment by alppuccino on 11/15 @ 6:55 am #
Obama is our President like a pool boy is president of Chlorine Management and Bug Removal. And he can’t even get that right.
If he was a waiter, he’d be fired by now. He’d spill so many drinks bowing to people who look royal or culturally diverse to him.
Obama is an idiot. I agree whole-heartedly with hf. How does he lead? “Oh, uh, that was Holder’s decision. Ask him.” “I, uh, am going to have to see how the election in Afghanistan turns out before I make a decision. Give me some space. Okay, I’m ready to consider making a decision about when I might consider making a decision.” “I just pooped my pants.”
The last one was a bonus quote.
Comment by B Moe on 11/15 @ 7:02 am #
You like Amanda’s version better than the original, hf?
Comment by Rusty on 11/15 @ 7:03 am #
#259
You want him? You can have him.
Comment by SBP on 11/15 @ 7:10 am #
So The United States, still a world power, has at last got a President with the good manners to accommodate the customs of other cultures.
Liar.
The majority of countries with a monarchy hold their royal failies in great respect.
Maybe Blowbama should move to one of those countries, then.
Comment by Pablo on 11/15 @ 8:28 am #
Big D, thank you for #257. And thanks for sending Mel over. I miss that guy.
Comment by Pablo on 11/15 @ 8:29 am #
That is just so wrong in so many ways. Heads of state the world over just chuckled at the President of the United States. Subservient “courtesy” does not engender respect, particularly not when it is uncalled for under the well established international protocol. This is a gaffe, plain and simple.
That said, do you think Gordon Brown has gained a greater respect for Obama since his inauguration? And do you think the terms “pride” and “immaturity” factor into Brown’s opinion?
I’d ask you the same about Sarkozy, but that question’s been answered.
Comment by ThomasD on 11/15 @ 8:30 am #
a President with the good manners to accommodate the customs of other cultures.
Except of course, that by attempting to bow and shake hands simultaneously, he got is shamefully and ignorantly wrong.
Not accomodating, just clueless and inept.
An American Rube in Tokyo.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/15 @ 10:04 am #
Thanks for sharing some of Mel’s saga with us Big D,
He was a hell of a man I’m sure, and always conducted himself here with class, aplomb, and humble courtesy; as I’m sure he was in all aspects of life. It never ceases to amaze me, the humility of great men. As a Navy cross winner, Mel was a certified hero, yet he would probably prefer to think of the men he served with, men that gave their full measure of devotion, as the real heroes…
We all stood on the backs of great men like Mel, as the current group stand on ours. We need to make sure that the next generation is provided the same firm foundation so that they can take our nation to the next level and so that all our descendants enjoy the freedom, liberty, and chances of success that we’ve had…
God Bless Mel and all like him,
God Bless us all,
And may God bless the United States of America.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/15 @ 10:33 am #
Then why bother to use proxies at all meya; why not be more “straight-up” like most of the commentariat? Unless you plan to say things in the ether of the internet that you don’t really want to be associated with…
Nice dodge on that other qhestion I posed, it wasn’t rhetorical, and I don’t think that “whitey” owes anyone anything…
And I’ll ask you to not to invoke the trail of tears in any of your rhetorical queswts for absolute moralo authority; I had ancestors involved in that one, and don’t like to see it cheapened by using it as a cudgel, thank you…
Many have gone on to serve this nation, as I have done, since then. We’ve buried the hatchet, and it’s not for others to capriciously take it up…
Comment by Rusty on 11/15 @ 10:46 am #
I’d use an event in history to illustarte your point Bob, but knowing mayas firm grasp of ignorance it would be a waste of time.
Comment by SBP on 11/15 @ 11:08 am #
Yeah I think
Liar.
Comment by Rahm Emanuel on 11/15 @ 11:38 am #
“It this really where you want to defend Obama acting like an Uncle Tom?”
Hey,I put a lot of effort into
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Comment by happyfeet on 11/15 @ 6:51 pm #
I like the original too and the a girl in trouble song. But I’d almost forgotten about them.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 11/15 @ 8:20 pm #
279
I know right……………..chickenhawk.
Comment by SBP on 11/15 @ 8:22 pm #
Yo, SFAG: check this out.
Then reflect on how many people are laughing at you right now.
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Comment by B Moe on 11/16 @ 2:16 am #
Probably because you didn’t say that. If you really want people to understand you, whole paragraphs, or at least complete sentences, would be a good place to start.
Comment by Patrick Chester on 11/16 @ 7:56 pm #
len blathered:
Do grow up and realise that you have a Great Man Leading you.
Does this Great Man know Obama is using his position?
Comment by Patrick on 11/17 @ 8:40 pm #
Nixon bowed… Eisenhower bowed…. Bush bowed, kissed, and held hands with the Saudi Arabian king (they were really close, practiacally slept with each other).
Comment by JD on 11/17 @ 8:43 pm #
Do grow up and realise that you have a Great Man Leading you.
Len is a fucking Euro, and buggers goats. Patrick too.