The Ditherer in Chief rejects every option his own “war council” gives him on Afghanistan and, nice wave now, jaunts off to Asia.
Oh, but not before announcing — in the face of 10.2% and rising unemployment …… [drum roll, please] …. a JOBS SUMMIT!!
OOoooooo! Aaaaaaaaah!
A summit! Where The One can “listen” to small-business owners, corporate executives, economists, financial experts and union leaders and then do exactly as he has always done — ignore what doesn’t fit into his preconceived, ideological conclusions and marginalize anyone that disagrees with him.
To buy time, maybe he’ll demand next a Blue-Ribbon Commission on Jobs with accompanying whitepaper.
It would sure buy Obama some more time to posture and preen before rejecting any recommendations before flying off to a several-country tour of Europe.
Sensing a pattern here.
Comment by MikeT on 11/13 @ 1:09 am #
Did you think it was going to be easy to repair the damage of 8 yrs of Bush?
Comment by J."Trashman" Peden on 11/13 @ 1:23 am #
Did you think it was going to be easy to repair the damage of 8 yrs of Bush?
If not, then why on earth did you elect a latte Communist to do the job?
Comment by Zelda on 11/13 @ 1:27 am #
What happened to “Yes We Can?”
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/13 @ 1:33 am #
“Did you think it was going to be easy to repair the damage of 8 yrs of Bush?”
Your side apparently did, you elected a decision-averse, unproven lightweight. Congrats.
The fact that he’s done absolutely nothing but make the situation worse is completely lost on you, isn’t it?
Comment by Joe on 11/13 @ 1:37 am #
Obama should have these kids over for beers. Oh wait, there is a restraining order.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/13 @ 1:46 am #
Looks like Obama’s not very happy with the options the U.S. military presented him for Afghanistan.
Comment by Joe on 11/13 @ 1:49 am #
Peak Oil? Peak Obama.
Comment by Rich Cox on 11/13 @ 2:59 am #
Didn’t matter what anyone was going to say or do, his decision was already made and based on the desires of the political elite. Cable was leaked by the Afghanistan ambassador because the one wanted it leaked to give him an out. Meanwhile allowing his press to continue ignoring anything and waiting for anything that might push the remainder off the lead.
Comment by SBP on 11/13 @ 3:59 am #
O/T: Greg Craig joins Anita Dunn, Van Jones, Rev. Wright, and the rest of the cast of hundreds that have gone under the bus.
Comment by donald on 11/13 @ 5:47 am #
I’m really interested in the commander in chief’s final decision.
My nephew leaves for Afghanistan this morning. He called me from River Street last night. We spoke a few minutes, he’s not especially happy to go, but now that it’s here he’s ready to get on with it. I wish him the best, he’s a great kid, with a great wife, great kids (Redundant) who all have mowhawks, and he’s gonna have a pretty dangerous job it turns out.
He’s never been political. But he knows something is very wrong, as do his fellow soldiers. Their’s a rift that’s developed in his unit between factions (How’s that for finesse), and that apparently was not the issue the last two times.
I blame the piece of shit occupying the white house at this time. But that’s just me, a hater.
Comment by B Moe on 11/13 @ 5:53 am #
The beat goes on.
Comment by Carin on 11/13 @ 6:45 am #
Looks like Obama’s not very happy with the options the U.S. military presented him for Afghanistan.
Look, you retarded marmoset, the options were presented BY HIS OWN NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL. The NSC he overhauled and made into a new, “more flexible” body.
Comment by LTC John on 11/13 @ 6:47 am #
Whew – I’m glad the CinC didn’t fall for any goofy plans from his hand picked 4 star theater commander, that proven loser at CENTCOM, the VP’s Ninja and Robot plan or any combination thereof. Yes We Can vote “present”.
I hope I’m not coming across as bitter or anything.
Comment by Carin on 11/13 @ 6:47 am #
Honestly, the stupid is too much for me.
Mike, why don’t you spell out the damage done by Bush and what Obama is doing to fix it, instead of tossing-off inane comments.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/13 @ 6:54 am #
A jobs summit! Another chance for the Obamateur to come off as Presidential; so his minions can tell all complainer, “B-B-But, he’s having a job summit! What more can you ask!1!11!eleventy”…
And just as with Afghanistan,he’ll dither over the different choices “ideas” that are generated; but in the end pronounce them all lacking and go with his own Brilliant! strategy based on his impeccable Judgement!…
It’s more of the same “style over substance”, or, “all hat and no cattle” as it were…
Just as with Afghanistan, Obama dosen’t give a tinkers damn about the jobs situation; outside of how it serves his electoral aspirations. He and his Marxist pals intended this to happen; the result isn’t up for question, simply the magnitude of that result. They expected it to peak in the 9’s, so that they could gloriously proclaim Obama’s saving of the economy and return to prosperity just in time for the next election; to try to finish off the Rethugs! They expected it to be just bad enough that they could play on the “crisis” mentality for some time, and that the public would buy their enactment of all of the neo-Marxist legislative agenda, justified as being needed to “rescue” the economy in “crisis”…
And all the while they’d have heroically pensive and thoughtful photo-ops courtesy of the Afghan war, just to bolster the mythos of Obama as a world class C-in-C; something that could come in handy later, you know, if the President of the world position get’s created as an offshoot to some phony climate treaty or some other UN connivance…
This idiot-in-chief has fiddled while America burned. Not only is he unconcerned about that Just War!, that was important just long enough to get him elected, but he’s completely unconcerned with the troops there; otherwise he’s not be trying to use the additional forces requested by his hand-picked commander, to implement his grand strategy, that are needed to ensure the force protection of the troops already there, as a diplomatic chit to be leveraged against Karzai…Smart Power! indeed…
No, they too have brought the economy to a terrible position, by allowing the free-fall of the dollar and knowingly engaging in Mugabe-esque monitization of the debt; a sure-fire recipe for inflation at a later date. And let’s not even talk about the spendthriftness…
No, he’s midway through executing his plans and putting the nation in a bad spot that will take many years to get back from. It seems like the tide is changing though, that the bloom is indeed off the rose; let’s hope that folks carry their dissatisfaction into the 2010 elections, and beyond to 2012…
Comment by Eben on 11/13 @ 7:00 am #
In other news, the Partner With God had a new placard placed upon his desk today, it read:
The Buck Stops Over There
He is also expected to announce on Monday that he is holding a Summit On Summits where he will listen to professional summit holders on how to hold summits on everything from military decisions to economic recovery options. This Summit on Summits will produce a list of action items that can be applied to all future summits resulting in greater appreciation by the peasants of The Partner With God’s summit holding abilities.
The soldiers killed in Afghanistan while waiting for his New Plan could not be reached for comment.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/13 @ 7:03 am #
“Comment by MikeT on 11/13 @ 1:09 am #
Did you think it was going to be easy to repair the damage of 8 yrs of Bush?”
Maybe they could use stem cells to repair your brain damage?
Comment by Rusty on 11/13 @ 7:05 am #
15.Comment by Bob Reed on 11/13 @ 6:54 am #
A jobs summit! Another chance for the Obamateur to come off as Presidential; so his minions can tell all complainer, “B-B-But, he’s having a job summit! What more can you ask!1!11!eleventy”…
Uh. Hows about some jobs there, Barracky ole buddy. Maybe if he actually stayed at the White House for more than a couple of weeks at at time, you know, treat it like a full time job, he could come up with something.
Hint, Barracky; Just do the exact opposite of what you’re doing now.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/13 @ 7:05 am #
“Comment by Snowcone on 11/13 @ 1:46 am #
Looks like Obama’s not very happy with the options the U.S. military presented him for Afghanistan.”
Yeah that whole “winning” thing is so passe and imperialistic.
Can’t have THAT on his watch.
Comment by Barrack Milhouse Obama on 11/13 @ 7:11 am #
Actually it says:
The Buck Don’t Stop ‘Til He’s Got Enough!
But if you repeat that I’ll call you a racist.
Comment by JHo on 11/13 @ 7:16 am #
well,
Maybe you trolls could chip in together on a mendacity synchronizer.
Comment by Carin on 11/13 @ 7:21 am #
These “summits” are an insult to our intelligence.
But, I may have to qualify who is included in that our.
Comment by JeffS on 11/13 @ 7:34 am #
But, I may have to qualify who is included in that our.
It includes around 48% of American voters in the 2008 Presidential elections.
Comment by Eben on 11/13 @ 7:37 am #
It turns out that LBJ did run for a second term, he just did it in black face.
Comment by Pablo on 11/13 @ 7:47 am #
When the going gets tough, the tough hold another meeting. A diverse one.
Comment by Pablo on 11/13 @ 7:50 am #
Don’t we need a Summit Czar? Maybe Ramsey
YousefClark would like the job.Comment by Roland THTG on 11/13 @ 7:52 am #
I have had managers like that…….
They come in, fuck everything up and cry off that nothing works because well, everything is all fucked up!
HE-DOESN’T-KNOW-WHAT-TO-DO about anything.
When in doubt, have a meeting. A Summit meeting. w00t!
52%FAIL
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Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/13 @ 8:03 am #
Hell with the beer, what shade of puce do you think Obama will use for this window dressing?
I’m betting it will be borderline-mauve.
Comment by Pablo on 11/13 @ 8:04 am #
Speaking of fail, courtesy of Ear Leader:
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, and four other men accused in the plot will be prosecuted in federal court in New York City, a federal law enforcement official said early on Friday.
How utterly idiotic can one Commander in Chief be? That retarded, my friends. That retarded.
Comment by Pablo on 11/13 @ 8:05 am #
Oh, yes. Khalid Sheik Mohammed is going to be tried in a civilian court, a few blocks from Ground Zero. Yes.
Comment by Joe on 11/13 @ 8:07 am #
Dr. Krauthammer comments on Dr. Hasan.
Comment by Ric Locke on 11/13 @ 8:08 am #
No, Obama isn’t happy with the choices presented and is searching for others.
This is absolutely characteristic of Leftoids. They have a Theory of Everything that is complete and covers all cases; the problem is, it’s wrong in the sense that it does not describe the real, objective Universe, and any experiment will fail to confirm the theory. They then attempt to modify the Universe to conform to the theory, rather than the converse.
Obama demands something that does not exist: a program that will both accomplish what’s needed and conform to Leftoid theory. He will now dither until it appears or the situation is irretrievable under any set of assumptions, meanwhile defenestrating anyone and everyone who offers solutions based on the real situation rather than his concepts. The inevitable result is disaster.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/13 @ 8:22 am #
This calls for immediate discussion!
Comment by Joe on 11/13 @ 8:23 am #
Oh, yes. Khalid Sheik Mohammed is going to be tried in a civilian court, a few blocks from Ground Zero. Yes.
What could go wrong?
Comment by Carin on 11/13 @ 8:35 am #
This calls for immediate discussion!
Threadwinner.
Comment by Roland THTG on 11/13 @ 8:35 am #
Oh, yes. Khalid Sheik Mohammed is going to be tried in a civilian court, a few blocks from Ground Zero.
There. That’ll keep ‘em busy and off my ass.
-BH Obama
Comment by happyfeet on 11/13 @ 8:37 am #
A summit about jobs? Couldn’t the dirty socialist Chicago street trash motherfucker have maybe done that before pissing away trillions of dollars?
Comment by Rusty on 11/13 @ 8:38 am #
34.Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/13 @ 8:22 am #
This calls for immediate discussion!
’cause the guy in the White House can’t think on his feet.
Comment by Squid on 11/13 @ 8:48 am #
What beer will Obama serve this time?
To buy time, maybe he’ll demand next a Blue-Ribbon Commission
I see what you did there.
Comment by Carin on 11/13 @ 8:57 am #
Happyfeet, simple answer? No. Because his stimulus has SAVED us from a deeper depression, right? But still, people are nattering on about continued job losses, and the concerns of the people must be addressed with a photo-op.
Comment by Carin on 11/13 @ 8:59 am #
I heard about how one of earlier summits was run. Hilarious. Everyone was divided into little groups to have cram sessions and then report back with TEH SOLUTIONS!
Then they broke for lunch.
It was just like one of those useless college group projects.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/13 @ 9:08 am #
Why is the Warren Buffet piece of shit buying a railroad? Cause a railroad generates cash but it’s also 90% made out of stuff what will inflate quite readily I think. This is Barack Obama’s America. People aren’t not hiring cause the future is uncertain… people aren’t not hiring cause the future is shit.
Comment by Pablo on 11/13 @ 9:10 am #
Hey, why can’t The Only Man For The Job figure this out?
Comment by Roland THTG on 11/13 @ 9:10 am #
Ya know……
This was an opportunity to have the most awesomest blackest feelingest smartest bestest preznit evah!
And what have they done? Total abject-chaotic-stupid-fucked-up-100% USDA Approved FAIL!
The only thing done right was aerating some dumb Somali teenagers, and even that took twice to get right.
I don’t need Obama to fail.
HE IS FAIL!
FUBO/OUTLAW
Comment by Pablo on 11/13 @ 9:29 am #
And only after they left that call to someone who knew what the fuck they were doing, USS Bainbridge Commander Frank Castellano.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/13 @ 9:33 am #
Maybe you trolls could chip in together on a mendacity synchronizer.
No mendacity implied.
Obama sees the military as government employees who haven’t done a very good job.
Why all the squealing when he’s trying to make them do a better job?
Comment by geoffb on 11/13 @ 9:43 am #
Nope, that wouldn’t be prudent. The economy and jobs might have started getting better on their own. That was not to be allowed. The crisis would have been wasted then. The crisis had to be made worse, extended, lengthened. They needed the biggest baddest crisis ever to be of use.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/13 @ 9:49 am #
No mendacity implied.
You can’t imply mendacity, you thumbless monkey. You practice it, by engaging in deception.
Obama sees the military as government employees who haven’t done a very good job.
Why all the squealing when he’s trying to make them do a better job?
Which he’s accomplishing by doing…fuckall. Leaving the troops in the middle of a hot war with no approved plan for victory and no resources. Precisely how is that supposed to help?
Comment by Squid on 11/13 @ 9:50 am #
Obama sees the military as government employees who haven’t done a very good job.
Where’s your source for this assertion? Or are you just projecting again?
Comment by Squid on 11/13 @ 9:52 am #
No, really. I wanna see the report where it says that Obama sees the military as substandard government employees. Because last I checked, Americans think the military is the only group of government employees that isn’t performing at an appallingly substandard level.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/13 @ 9:55 am #
Which he’s accomplishing by doing…fuckall.
Just like the U.S. military has done for the past 8 years.
Unfortunately for Obama, his only choices are give the same screw ups yet another chance or cut and run.
Comment by Eben on 11/13 @ 10:07 am #
Unfortunately for Obama, his only choices are give the same screw ups yet another chance or cut and run.
Which obviously ignores the fact that he is the Commander In Chief. He doesn’t ‘give chances’ he takes command and leads.
Except when he doesn’t.
Comment by Eben on 11/13 @ 10:14 am #
Unfortunately for Obama, his only choices are give the same screw ups yet another chance or cut and run.
Also, you may want to read his speech back in March. He kinda seemed to say that the strategy going forward from then was his. So these recent failures are failures of his strategy, that he implemented, 8 months ago.
I guess in a way you could say that he will be directing ‘the same screw-ups’ again, but the ’screw-ups’ are him and his administration.
Comment by B Moe on 11/13 @ 10:20 am #
It is looking to me like in another year or so it is going to be apparent that Bush won the quagmire in Iraq we couldn’t win while Obama has lost the righteous war in Afghanistan. That is going to be hard to spin away to any one smarter than Snowcone, which is a fairly sizable voting bloc.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/13 @ 10:38 am #
He doesn’t ‘give chances’ he takes command and leads.
What a wonderfully idiotic statement.
It’s not like he can bench the U.S. military and put in China’s PLA.
He has to deal with the very real possiblility that the Taliban are better at this than our side is.
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/13 @ 10:39 am #
“Why is the Warren Buffet piece of shit buying a railroad? Cause a railroad generates cash but it’s also 90% made out of stuff what will inflate quite readily I think.”
Pure speculation on my part, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s assuming that a weak dollar and crappy economy spikes oil prices again and he’s hedging his bet that rail transport will pick up the lion’s share of shipping once the trucking market collapses further. Just a guess…
Comment by RIP Ford on 11/13 @ 10:42 am #
“He has to deal with the very real possiblility that the Taliban are better at this than our side is.”
Bullshit. What he’s currently doing is making damn sure the Taliban have the upper hand, he’s dealing with nothing. Poking his fingers into his ears and hoping it all goes away. Feckless retard.
Or maybe he’s awaiting some new development in balloon fence technology?
Comment by Carin on 11/13 @ 10:43 am #
He has to deal with the very real possiblility that the Taliban are better at this than our side is.
I have full faith in the idea that the Taliban are better at this than obama and company.
Comment by Eben on 11/13 @ 10:45 am #
It’s not like he can bench the U.S. military and put in China’s PLA.
What a wonderfully idiotic statement.
He has to deal with the very real possibility that the Taliban are better at this than The Partner With God is.
fixed
Comment by Snowcone on 11/13 @ 10:48 am #
fixed
Real funny.
Look, from the start of this “war” we have had 10x the manpower the Taliban has had and over 1000 times their budget and yet, here we are, 8 years later openly debating whether we should retreat to the cities of Afghanistan or even pull out altogether.
Which side gets the win?
Comment by Eben on 11/13 @ 10:50 am #
That sounds suspiciously like “You go to war with the army you have, not the army you would like to have..”
Comment by Eben on 11/13 @ 10:52 am #
Look, from the start of this “war” we have had 10x the manpower the NVA has had and over 1000 times their budget and yet, here we are, 8 years later openly debating whether we should retreat to the cities of South Viet Nam or even pull out altogether.
I blame Westmoreland and his fail army, LBJ and Nixon had nothing to do with it.
Of course, historians beg to differ with me..
Comment by Carin on 11/13 @ 10:52 am #
8 years later THE DEMOCRATS WHO HOLD ALL THE STRINGS ARE openly debating whether we should retreat to the cities of Afghanistan or even pull out altogether.
Fixed.
Comment by SporkLift Driver on 11/13 @ 10:53 am #
#1 is satire, right?
Comment by Carin on 11/13 @ 10:55 am #
Nah. He’s just plum stupid.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/13 @ 11:07 am #
Snowboy, if you’d ever read any book about war period, let alone insurgency, you’d know just how fundamentally flawed your argument is. It amounts to “We have not won yet, hence we will not win.”
Insurgencies only seem invincible because they make great effort to create that image. In point of fact, they aren’t invincible, but defeating them requires time and the proper application of political and military resources. McChrystal is champing at the bit to make the strategy shift, but he’s being denied the resources he needs by the President, whose motives are…God only knows.
You claim that the military has done nothing for 8 years. Really? Based on what close reading of what sources on the Afghan war? Or just based on the fact that somewhere in the dim recesses of your cerebrum, people are dying, and that’s bad?
I would dearly like to believe that you have some clue as to what you’re talking about. You have yet to demonstrate even any desire to have an understanding of war.
Comment by Pablo on 11/13 @ 11:08 am #
We have? I thought we were ignoring them, taking our eye off the ball. And that Ear Leader was going to fix that.
Comment by jacitelli on 11/13 @ 11:11 am #
Good catch pablo, they dont even beleive their own bullshit.
Comment by jacitelli on 11/13 @ 11:11 am #
I bet if you go through the archives, slowcone probably made that argument at some point.
Comment by Squid on 11/13 @ 11:15 am #
Look, from the start of this “war” we have had 10x the manpower the Taliban has had and over 1000 times their budget and yet, here we are, 8 years later openly debating whether we should retreat to the cities of Afghanistan or even pull out altogether.
Ah, Snowy’s familiar fallback position: this is too expensive. It’s just one easy step from there to the “Nuke ‘em all and let Allah sort ‘em out” position. C’mon, Snowy — go for the gusto!
Comment by MikeD on 11/13 @ 11:35 am #
Given Snowcone’s repeated comments here about sundry subjects I have come to the conclusion that he truly is the dumbest fuck to ever walk the face of the earth.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/13 @ 11:43 am #
He’s not stupid, he just knows a lot of things that aren’t so.
Comment by JHo on 11/13 @ 11:59 am #
He is also phoning it in. Don’t take it seriously. He isn’t.
Comment by LTC John on 11/13 @ 12:15 pm #
And yet how many of you give alphie the attention he craves? Too many.
Comment by JHo on 11/13 @ 12:20 pm #
Under Bush’s watch, an infantry division ran up a valley in the middle of Iraq and blew up the Republican Guard. I guess something’s changed.
Comment by JHo on 11/13 @ 12:24 pm #
You mean like I just did? Can’t. Resist.
Comment by LTC John on 11/13 @ 12:26 pm #
Yes, JHo.
Comment by JHo on 11/13 @ 12:27 pm #
Rhetorical Q, LTC…
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 11/13 @ 12:52 pm #
The 2nd Brigade CO at the time was a classmate of mine.
Comment by Matt on 11/13 @ 12:52 pm #
I distinctly recall numerous (democratic) politicians proclaiming the Iraq war lost. And yet, it was not.
The difference here is, Obama will help those naysayers by dithering. I mean seriously, what kind of plan is he looking for ? Did his guys not give him a bunch of different options ?
He should hold a seminar on afghanistan. Maybe appoint an “Aghanistan Czar” That would fix things.
Comment by Snowcone's undecended tessicles on 11/13 @ 1:30 pm #
Snowcone for Useless Fucknozzle Czar!
Comment by JD on 11/13 @ 1:40 pm #
Why doesn’t Barcky just tell them what their plan is supposed to consist of, so he can blame them when it fails. If he were a leader, his rejection of the proposals would have been followed by his outline of what would be acceptable, but that would require stones that he does not have. Better to have someone else’s plan to throw under the back of the bus when he fails.
Comment by Rusty on 11/13 @ 2:27 pm #
Because, JD, he needs to look like he’s leading. He has no experience leading or taking any kind of responsibility, so when he fails, he blames someone else. Our president is a lot like Homer Simpson.
Comment by LTC John on 11/13 @ 2:46 pm #
Anyone who has been invloved in the military decision making process would be familiar with the parts that the CinC seems to be missing – Commander’s Intent and follow up guidance. You cannot lay back and swat away all options offered and say “try again” – you have to say, “here is what I want, now go and come up with ways for that to happen.” Maybe they missed that part in the transition briefings?
Comment by sdferr on 11/13 @ 2:58 pm #
But LTC, Obama did say “here is what I want, now go and come up with ways for that to happen.”, back in the March-May period. The over-arching strategic objective was laid out and a plan to meet that objective generated. At which point, shortly after August, we learned that the str. objective had come into question in the mind of the CinC, no? And then the fretting and retrenchment began, with now Biden’s new proposals put forward, and then again McChrystal’s pushed back hewing to the original objective (since how could he do other without any clarifying guidance?), then two or three new objections rushed out — trouble with the vote, Afghan govnmt corruption, blah, blah, blah — the process is incoherent beyond reason from where I sit.
But that isn’t to say that there aren’t serious questions to be asked of whatever plan is chosen. The uncertainties are fraught with danger on every side, as always must be the case in matters of war. Obama seems to be unable to reconcile himself to that fact but seeks guarantees where there can be none.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 11/13 @ 3:03 pm #
85
Obama probably thinks MDMP is some sort cat tranquilizer you sprinkle on a joint.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/13 @ 4:30 pm #
You have yet to demonstrate even any desire to have an understanding of war.
Here once again is the laughable claim than knowledge someone with an I.Q. of 80 should be able to master in a few weeks is somehow beyond the grasp average Americans.
Comment by JD on 11/13 @ 4:54 pm #
You are so far below the level of “average” Americans that you would need a ladder and an elevator to reach the bottom, alphie/snotnose. Fuck off. Swordfish style.
Comment by Blake on 11/13 @ 5:23 pm #
Snowcone, you’re lucky my military daughter isn’t anywhere near you. She’d have you on the ground crying “uncle” within 30 seconds.
Since she’s a girl, she’d take mercy on you after you kissed some grass.
My son, ex army, not so merciful. You’d probably be in the hospital for a day or two after he kicked your ass.
Comment by SBP on 11/13 @ 6:04 pm #
Yo, Rilly: what were you doing posting on here in the middle of a work day?
I mean, since you’re so picky about people supposedly doing that, and all.
Oh, right: you neither have, nor are you capable of, a paying job.
Maybe if you ever figure out “time zones” and “weekends” you’ll at least be able to pull shifts at MickeyD’s.
Comment by SBP on 11/13 @ 6:05 pm #
Whoops, that was meant for another thread.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 11/13 @ 6:15 pm #
You are too ignorant to realize your own level of ignorance.
Comment by B Moe on 11/13 @ 6:43 pm #
Snowcone used to totally pwn his little sisters at Risk, he knows him some military strategy.
Comment by Big D on 11/13 @ 7:17 pm #
Here once again is the laughable claim than knowledge someone with an I.Q. of 80 should be able to master in a few weeks is somehow beyond the grasp average Americans.
So your assertion is that Obama’s IQ is less than 80? Interesting.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/13 @ 7:32 pm #
Snowy, responding to a charge of ignorance with arrogance is expected, but unpersuasive. Is it really your argument that war requires no study? That the history, logistics, geometry, etc., which have been pertinent to the profession of arms since the time of Alexander can be mastered by a moron?
That Sun Tzu and Clausewitz were mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers?
What is the basis for this claim? I’d really, really like to hear it.
Comment by Blake on 11/13 @ 7:50 pm #
Andrew, I’d like to order a side of Mahan to go with your menu of mouth breathing-knuckle-draggers.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/13 @ 7:53 pm #
That Sun Tzu and Clausewitz were mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers?
Both Sun Tzu and Clausewitz were on the losing side, Andrew.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/13 @ 9:18 pm #
The losing side of what? Clausewitz may have been present at Jena when the Prussians got mauled by Napoleon, but he went and offered his services to the Russians and ended up back in the Prussian Army for the Waterloo campaign. You know, on the side that won. He wrote On War about fifteen years later, incidentally.
As to Sun Tzu, exactly what did he lose and when?
And you’re dodging the point. You’ve argued, in a very mandarin fashion, that war is for dunderheads. I ask you for the basis for this claim, and you come up with nothing, which is as tedious as it is typical.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/13 @ 9:20 pm #
order a side of Mahan
I also forgot Machiavelli.
Comment by TmjUtah on 11/13 @ 9:39 pm #
We have lost the first decade of this century in this war. There may be plenty of folk who are willing, and will most certainly step up to the plate when the enemy attacks next, but Government has folded its tent as sure as the congress did in 1975 when it was time to honor the commitments made at the Paris Peace Accords.
The war the Government is interested in is on the Republic. And they are dead fucking serious about scoring big before 2010.
Our sons and daughters, mothers and fathers… those in uniform, they are consigned to being expendable props, sent out to die pointlessly.
Well, pointlessly if anybody wanted a victory against Islam.
Their deaths are being used minute by minute, hour by hour, broadcast by broadcast, to beat down the nation. This designed and sought for defeat is just another tool mixed in with socialism, marxism, and crushing taxation all aimed at breaking the system.
We’ll see the Attorney General of the United States apologizing to the world for America’s sins of privilege after KSM and his friends are acquitted.
Mark it down.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 11/13 @ 11:14 pm #
Yet another mouth breathing-knuckle-dragger.
Comment by SGT Ted on 11/14 @ 9:58 am #
What the fuck would you know about conducting massive campaigns 1000’s of miles from home soil Snowcone? Oh, thats right. Nothing whatsover.
Are you arguing that our officer corps is composed of 80 IQ people? Are you really that ignorant? In fact, you can’t be a cook in todays military with an IQ of 80; you can’t get in, period.
Your stupid is showing Snowcone. Tuck it back in. You are an embarrassment to leftists. You make ignorant assertions and call it intelligent arguement.
DO you remember when idiots like you were claiming the exact same things about Iraq? That we couldn’t win after all the money spent there. Then a General Smarter than you will ever be came in and had a plan, said he could win and he did, depsite ignoramouses like you spouting your stupidity. Now, we have the same situation in A-stan, with the only difference is that the current CINC won’t listen to his Generals, and you blame the Generals. Are you retarded, or just willfully stupid?
You are once again repeating your the same baseless, ignorant pronouncements about A-Stan that was said about Iraq prior to the Surge. Why should anyone listen you the likes of you? You have no experience in this matter and your assertions are all politically based. You should shut your suck and leave it to the adults. Listening to you is like listening to a hairdresser’s opinions about quantum mechanics. Yea, stupid like that.
But you won’t; you’ll continue to display your elitist ignorance of the military and war for all to see. GO right ahead, moron.
Comment by Great Mencken's Ghost! on 11/14 @ 11:26 am #
Jobs Summit Predictions
Comment by B Moe on 11/14 @ 12:49 pm #
He didn’t vote for Obama.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/15 @ 1:17 am #
10X the manpower? The last estimate I saw of ACM strength was 32,000+ full time fighters. Up from fairly recently but a lot less than 2002.
32,000 x 10 = 320,000.
68,000 US + 64,000 ISAF = 192,000
Then there’s the matter of the just incredible lack historical depth. 20 years to build a new country–minimum. Figure out a way to accellerate that and there’s room for discussion.
Comment by SGT Ted on 11/15 @ 7:56 am #
It just is the latest display of Snowcones braindead leftism. He read some “smart” progg who said people in the military are stupid and so he squawks it out like an incontinent parrot. The dumb people I knew in the Military are smarter than Snowcone.
I can’t wait until his mom throws him out of the house. He might learn something then.
Comment by JD on 11/15 @ 8:18 am #
All alphie would learn, Sgt Ted, is that the real world is significantly different than whay he has imagined it to be. He might learn that water is wet, though that concept might be a bit much for someone with such deficient gray matter.