Pelosi/Obama “healthcare” [heh] bill in 90 seconds
Oh, shush, remember Hasan is just the alleged shooter
When being “cool” is taken so far that people consider you, well, you know, “bloodless”…
… as opposed to being very hot-blooded and ready to cut off the heads of those that don’t believe as you do …
But that can’t be the concern of the authorities. They do have their priorities.
Comment by alppuccino on 11/9 @ 5:12 am #
I will go to jail before I am forced to buy health insurance. And when they ask me what I’m in for, I’ll answer “I wouldn’t buy the man’s health insurance.” And they will give me a wide berth.
What if all healthy Limbaugh listeners refused to participate? 10 million people, maybe. Where would they be housed when they refused to pay the fine? Does no one remember A Bug’s Life?
Comment by B Moe on 11/9 @ 5:55 am #
Extremist interpretation.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 11/9 @ 6:05 am #
Any coverage in the US yet of that Sunday Telegraph article linking Hasan to the Va. mosque and imam frequented by the 9/11 jihadis? I have a hard time believing the FBI haven’t gone through every last congregant with a fine-tooth comb. To find one popping up as a major in the Army is really going to reflect rather poorly on various agencies and procedures.
Comment by B Moe on 11/9 @ 6:57 am #
Nothing major so far, SW. Meanwhile dissent continues to lose it’s romance.
How long before the unions start hiring Pinkerton Agents for security?
Comment by LTC John on 11/9 @ 7:21 am #
I was busy this past weekend, inspecting two units just returned from Afghanistan. I kept expecting the soldiers to ask me - “what the #$%* happened while we were gone?!”
Comment by Joe on 11/9 @ 7:29 am #
I can only hope people wake up, but the scary part it might take having some POS health care bill to actually become law and start imposing draconian results to the economy.
And then it is too late.
Comment by Joe on 11/9 @ 7:34 am #
Clemenza: You know, Mike, you’re gonna turn out all right. You take a long vacation, nobody knows where, and we’ll catch the hell.
Michael: How bad do you think it’s gonna be?
Clemenza: Pretty goddam bad. Probably all the other Families will line up against us. That’s all right. These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one. You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble.
[Clemenza now finishes working on the gun]
Comment by newrouter on 11/9 @ 7:35 am #
”
Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used ‘Electronic Means’ to Connect with Terrorists
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS
Nov. 9, 2009 ”
link
Comment by Joe on 11/9 @ 7:36 am #
And that Godfather quote is not some veiled or over support of violence. It is a suggestion that standing up politically to this healthcare “reform” now is critical before it gets out of hand.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 7:39 am #
I just saw the mosque connection mentioned on the Teevee, SW. But it was on Fox, so I think that might just have been an entertainment piece and not really news.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 7:53 am #
Speaking of rounds: Hysteria, meet reality.
Comment by Darleen on 11/9 @ 8:06 am #
The thing that really is bothering me about the MSM is the “alleged” shooter or “alleged” shooting.
There is NOTHING ALLEGED about it! The shooting DID happen. Hasan IS the shooter. Now, what he will be charged WITH or convicted ON, remains to be seen but 13 people dead by gunshots is not “questionably true”
Crimeny, I don’t see the MSM ever say “alleged” Global Warming.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 8:09 am #
Let’s keep in mind that he just snapped. Islam and/or his imam have absolutely nothing to do with it. And don’t you go reading this.
Comment by Darleen on 11/9 @ 8:14 am #
Pablo
That compare and contrast was hilarious…love the closing line:
Comment by Darleen on 11/9 @ 8:15 am #
SW
Looks like AP has picked up on the mosque, but they really downplay any connection.
Comment by Joe on 11/9 @ 8:43 am #
Pablo, wow. Thanks for that link.
http://tiny.cc/97fVk
Here is Hasan’s Islamic Cleric praising his acts. Seriously. Major Nidal Hasan was a hero for putting Allah first.
Everything comes into fashion again, including (unfortunately) September 10, 2001 thinking.
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 8:47 am #
Words really fail sometimes …
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 8:52 am #
Jesus H. Fucking Christ.
Meanwhile…
Hope and change, people. Hope and change.
Is it wrong for me to be pining for my old M-60?
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 9:00 am #
I think they have to say “alleged” until a court of law pronounces him guilty. It’s annoying, but it’s also SOP.
Jesus H. Christ
Quick! What does the H stand for?
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 9:01 am #
Also, you can dispute if Hasan engaged in terrorism, but you can’t dispute that he waged JIHAD.
Go on, lefties, tell us it wasn’t jihad. Do it. Do it with a straight face.
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 9:05 am #
Teh Funneh.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 9:22 am #
It’s all Greek to me, di.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 9:32 am #
Just, wow.
Shadowy cleric revered by disenchanted Muslim youths throughout West cited in Toronto 18 case
Guess who?
Comment by SBP on 11/9 @ 9:46 am #
Quick! What does the H stand for?
Haploid. :-)
There’s a Mark Twain essay where he talks about being a printer’s apprentice as a boy. He and another apprentice had been given the job of typesetting and printing some sermons by a local preacher, who wanted to mail them to his fellow preachers in other cities.
When they finished the job they discovered that they’d left out a word on one of the early pages. Now, those of us who are old enough enough to remember manual typewriters know what that means — the insertion can cascade through subsequent pages, which requires that all of them be retyped (or re-typeset, in this case).
Young master Clemens and his colleague observed that if they simply abbreviated Jesus as Jes. on the flawed page, they’d have enough extra space to get by with only resetting that one page. They did so, ran off a proof, and sent it to the preacher.
He arrived at the print office in high dudgeon, ranting about the near-blasphemy of abbreviating the name of the Savior, and insisting that the job be done over with the FULL NAME.
Soooo… they reset the job using the full name (”Jesus H. Christ”), printed it, and dropped the results off at the post office.
Heh.
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 9:48 am #
As Barbarossa over at Jawa is fond of pointing out:
Comment by DarthRove on 11/9 @ 9:49 am #
I need some good humor today. The incredibly sad state of the self-appointed overlords and vlasti in DC have me really down today. I’m just tired of people not only thinking they CAN leech off me, but that they SHOULD leech off me.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/9 @ 9:50 am #
As Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid tries to advance a healthcare reform bill onto the Senate floor, just under half of Americans, 48%, say they trust the Democrats in Congress to change the nation’s healthcare system; 52% express little or no trust in them. Trust in President Obama on healthcare is a bit higher, at 55%, while trust in the Republicans in Congress — 37% — is significantly lower.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/123917/On-Healthcare-Americans-Trust-Obama-More-Than-Congress.aspx
Poor misunderstood Republicans.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 9:53 am #
Hasan is awake and talking. Also, he’s a really good tipper.
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 9:53 am #
Look! Something shiny! And BUNNIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 10:04 am #
Has Obama removed Gen George Casey from his duties yet? No? Stunner that.
Comment by Carin on 11/9 @ 10:24 am #
Fuck you snowcone. If this monstrosity passes, estimates say my health insurance bill is going up by a $1000 a month.
You know what’s going to bankrupt my family? Obama care. That’s fucking what.
Or, I could just drop insurance and go to jail.
This just isn’t fucking funny.
Comment by Carin on 11/9 @ 10:25 am #
But, you know, keep posting irrelevant polls. I’ll take a poll in my family once we lose our house.
Yes, this will be a boon for Michigan.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 11/9 @ 10:34 am #
The bill is designed to make your insurance go up, so then you beg to go on the subsidized government plan. Once that happens enough times private insurance goes out of business and then hallelujah we have single payer. The galling thing to me is they keep lying about what they are trying to do while the press runs smoke screens for em. It is not like you do not have shit loads of Dems on video tape stating unequivically single payer is their goal. Our press is literally aiding our politicians and lying to our faces.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/9 @ 10:38 am #
estimates say my health insurance bill is going up by a $1000 a month
Can you tell us what page of the bill that’s on so we can see if you’re just being shrill or not, Carin?
Comment by Silver Whistle on 11/9 @ 10:39 am #
Thanks for the updates, guys. The ABC report linked by newrouter is really worrying. If the FBI doesn’t treat al-Awlaki like a contagious disease and track all of his connections now, I don’t know what to say.
Comment by geoffb on 11/9 @ 10:44 am #
Also at the Daily Mail:
Melanie Phillips
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 10:45 am #
Snotnose is trying to out-idiot itself again.
Comment by Cowboy on 11/9 @ 10:49 am #
What are you in for, alpuccino?
“Not buying insurance.”
…and they all moved away from him on the bench there. Until he said:
“And disturbing the peace.”
Comment by Matt on 11/9 @ 10:54 am #
What, he thought the strip club dancers were all virgins ?
This guy is a piece of crap- the only tenants of his religion he apparently follows is “killing infidels is good.”
I’ll be joining you guys in prison it looks like. I will not be forced to buy health care. Perhaps we could consider starting up various chapters of the Proteinian Brotherhood wherever we are incarcerated.
Comment by takeshi kovacs on 11/9 @ 10:58 am #
He’s already dialed up to eleventy, there’s no place to go but down
Comment by alppuccino on 11/9 @ 10:59 am #
….and my phone’s out in the limo where I keeps my bitches.
Comment by alppuccino on 11/9 @ 10:59 am #
….karate man bruise on the inside.
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 11:05 am #
w00t, SBP! I figured someone would know the funny explanation. Didn’t know the Greek one, Pablo. Thanks for the tip.
Can you tell us what page of the bill that’s on so we can see if you’re just being shrill or not, Carin?
Geez Louise, frostbite, they’re not going to specify the horrors in plain language. That figure comes from DOING THE DAMN MATH rather than swooning over the vapid promises.
Comment by Nidal Hassan on 11/9 @ 11:06 am #
Poor misunderstood Republicans.
Alluha Akbar! For He has provided us with dhimmis: true Islamophobia compounded by psychological displacement. They even call it “progressive”!
Comment by alppuccino on 11/9 @ 11:07 am #
Snowcone’s healthcare expenses will go to -$1000 per month, so, you know Carin, it’s a wash. Feel better?
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 11:08 am #
OK, here’s the thing: Anyone who believes he has a moral obligation to kill members of the U.S. military should not be IN that same military, regardless of the origins of that conviction.
Deal?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/9 @ 11:09 am #
That figure comes from DOING THE DAMN MATH rather than swooning over the vapid promises.
That’s fine, just point out where in the health care bill that is so we can be sure the claim isn’t just partisan whining.
It’s reality-based Monday.
Comment by Nidal Hassan on 11/9 @ 11:11 am #
I tell them not to worry, it is “healthy”.
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 11:16 am #
Look, frostbite, I don’t know what the actual figure is, but if the bill adds mandates wrt coverage and not denying and stuff, the price goes up. Econ 101.
Comment by cranky-d on 11/9 @ 11:24 am #
There you go again, assuming a troll has a grasp of basic economics.
Comment by Nidal Hassan on 11/9 @ 11:25 am #
And when the Infidels come to them saying, “But look what your eyes see, man”, I tell them to keep firmly in mind first principles and repeat, “You can’t make me, waaaa…”
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 11:27 am #
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 11:31 am #
IT IS NOT IN THE BILL YOU KRAZY WINGNAZIS !!!!
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 11:35 am #
It is a healthy field of young wheat half grown, unripe, in the midst of which there grows a small handful of weeds and to extirpate these, our geniuses propose to scythe down the whole field, so to be sure the weeds are dead.
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 11:36 am #
There you go again, assuming a troll has a grasp of basic economics.
*sigh*
I’m afflicted with this disease.
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 11:38 am #
scythe down the whole field, so to be sure the weeds are dead
Wow. That’s exactly what the parable of the wheat and the tares says.
Comment by Squid on 11/9 @ 11:48 am #
What Snowy fails to realize is that it’s not the burden of the status-quo to prove anything. It’s the burden of the new order to prove itself better.
Snowy, can you produce evidence that PelosiCare will not fuck up the coverage currently enjoyed by the majority of Americans?
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 11:49 am #
Hey, some good news out of Washington! John Allen Muhammed’s death sentence appeal has been denied by the Supreme Court. Unless Tim Kaine steps in, and he’s indicated that he doesn’t intend to, Muhammed will be shuffled off this mortal coil in 32 hours. Allahu akbar!
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 11:51 am #
Much like Net Neutrality which proposes to fix a problem that doesn’t exist with, what else, government control of private industry and communications.
Comment by Carin on 11/9 @ 11:55 am #
From the Huffpoo, reaction to an article by Betsy McCoughey:
2016 is 9 years away? And, you do know this shit isn’t indexed to inflation, right?
Comment by Carin on 11/9 @ 11:58 am #
What’s really cool, is that the cost of healthcare at 20% of pre-tax income means … roughly, that you if you’re making 102,100, you only get to take home about $55,000.
Bankruptcy. It’s gonna be what’s for dinner.
Comment by Carin on 11/9 @ 11:59 am #
But, let me remind you. Obama will NOT raise taxes on the middle class.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/9 @ 12:02 pm #
it’s not the burden of the status-quo to prove anything
In other words, wingnuts can and will just make wild claims instead of reality-based claims.
Nice, the “Glenn Beck rule of political debates.”
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 12:07 pm #
Fuck off, alphie.
Comment by Carin on 11/9 @ 12:09 pm #
Waiting, snowcow.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 12:10 pm #
Hey, can we trade snotnose for Lee Stranahan? He’s a rare bird, the honest lefty.
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 12:10 pm #
Alphie/snotnose/Neville/monkeyboy/parsnip/boogereater never ceases to amaze.
Comment by Carin on 11/9 @ 12:11 pm #
Snowcow’s lunch hour must have ended. Time to make more fries …
Comment by DarthRove on 11/9 @ 12:24 pm #
Some funny courtesy of failblog.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/9 @ 12:30 pm #
Wait, are you all saying that, when you want something to get cheaper and more well-run, you don’t give it to government?
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 12:37 pm #
This won’t boil blood, not at all. Ice cube cool, in fact.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/9 @ 12:45 pm #
Jeffersonian@70: Not at all. Government functions are all much cheaper and work very well. All you have to do is submit your requisition on form HG7-YG64F/T (in triplicate), retaining a canary copy for your records (failure to retain can result in a $11,000 fine and/or 3 years imprisonment). After 4-8 weeks you will receive the magenta copy with a red “APPORVED” stamp which you can then attach to form 87Y-UUY69/E with a notarized photocopy of your canary copy and send that to the appropriate office. If, after 4-8 weeks, you instead receive a goldenrod copy with a red “APPROVED” stamp, it has in fact NOT been approved, but can be appealed by attaching the goldenrod and canary copies (not photocopies, but the original copies) to form B8I1O0/5S and submitting to the office.
See? Easy!
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 12:45 pm #
Sdferr - people that go on the Rachel MadCow show and help her push her narrative are not good people.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 12:47 pm #
I actually did a double take on that one, sdferr. Satire is becoming damned near impossible to distinguish from reality.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 12:49 pm #
with love we’ll find a way just give it time I think
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 1:02 pm #
Meanwhile, out in the world business picks up:
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 1:04 pm #
And up:
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 1:07 pm #
Obama on the fall of the Berlin Wall: “Hey, did you know I’m the first black president?”
Is there anything that isn’t about this preening, narcissistic motherfucker?
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/9 @ 1:15 pm #
I said it over the weekend, and the evidence is getting clearer as the days go by:
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15498#comment-810551
This was, as Dicentra said, a Jihadist act. And the press is brethlessly endeavoring to make any other excuses they can for it; because to admit that it was Jihadist would be to admit that America had suffered a Jihadist attack on Obama’s watch-something that didn’t occur under Chimpy McBusHiylerBurton or the Dark lord Cheney…
And should that fact sink into the minds of the low-information voters, not only would the Democrats face electoral armageddon in 2010 but in 2012 also.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 1:15 pm #
do you have a link I feel like I’m out of the loop
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 1:16 pm #
about the Berlin wall
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 1:20 pm #
To the argument on Stupak we joined the other night, John McCormack tag teams with Ramesh Ponnuru to the applause of Ed Morrissey to add their voices in praise of the Republicans forgoing any serious challenge to Stupak’s amnd’t and with it, they insist, the certainty of the need to cede any intent the Republicans may have had to the misinterpretations of the Democrats and the media. Give up, they proclaim! You cannot mean what you mean when you speak for only your opponents can determine that, silly mortals.
I’m not too familiar with John McCormack but the mere presence of Cap’t Ed on that team tends to harden my belief that opposing Stupak was the outnumbered Republicans best shot. Who will be lead by fools will join in folly.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 1:24 pm #
here’s more tasty Ramesh Ponnuru wisdom…
there are fetuses what are more savvier than this Ramesh person I think
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 1:25 pm #
oh. link
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 1:28 pm #
omg. How clever do dirty socialists even have to be to outsmart this most uncleverest of pussies?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 1:29 pm #
that was that Ramesh loser btw
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 1:30 pm #
idolatry of the fetus is of the devil I think
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 1:32 pm #
the obvious intentionalist critique of that Ramesh nonsense is obvious
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 1:33 pm #
Most any demands of PIOUS PURITY are the devil, so far as I can see, and lead straight to trouble.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 1:36 pm #
No, I just watched it live. I’m sure the text will turn up. It was probably the bestest speech evah, Ver 87.0. It must be archived.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 1:39 pm #
McCormack makes the better argument. And should this come to pass, the vote as it went will be cause for raising much cain.
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 1:42 pm #
McCormack too, however, cedes to the opposition:
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 1:47 pm #
AP touches on Obambi’s Wish I Was There (But Not Really) message, though it doesn’t quote the America Is Really Awesome With My Black Ass In Charge bit.
They do note that Hillary got stuck introducing his poncey videotaped ass. One of these days, he’s going to find a shiv in his kidney.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/9 @ 1:51 pm #
Shiv day may not be too far off in the future Pablo…
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/november_2009/27_say_hillary_would_be_better_president_than_obama
As his popularity falls, the chances of Hillz running increases. Obama’s like Carter in so many ways already; shouldn’t he also enjoy a challenge from a fellow Democrat too?
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 1:51 pm #
I still haven’t heard complaints of cynicism filed against Stupak and his like-minded pro-life Democrats, for they certainly knew of this distinct possibility now raised by Wasserman Schultz before they voted for the underlying bill. They did not go the extra mile to assure their amnd’t would stay in the bill while they still had the leverage to do so Friday into Sat. They caved for the mere chance to vote for the amnd’t, which must be taken as an act distinct from a principled insistence that their intentions to keep Fed funding out of abortions become law. Looks cynical to me.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/9 @ 1:52 pm #
News flash:
about the Berlin wall
As of today, still in rubble form in Germany.
Some black guy seems intent on rebuilding it though.
Now back to your regular scheduled programming.
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 1:56 pm #
Ramesh P is that poncey guy Longshanks defenestrated. Follow him in flight Republicans.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/9 @ 1:59 pm #
We interrupt again.
Michael Jackson?
He seems to be baacck!
Ugh.
Now back to the program in progress.
Comment by McGehee on 11/9 @ 2:02 pm #
If I’d been a House Republican I might have voted for the amendment but be damned if I would have voted for the bill.
Abortionphiles can strip the amendment in conference, but the conference report needs to be voted on all over again. Any of these Huckabee-wannabe’s that still voted aye on the conference report with Stupak stripped out, would deserve to be Scozzafava’d.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 2:04 pm #
I don’t think the bold is terribly operative, keeping in mind that they didn’t need a single Republican to pass this monstrosity. Stupak insisted on a vote, not on passage of the amendment.
Had they shot down the Amendment and had the bill pass anyway, then they’d have some ’splaining to do to their constituents and nothing to show for it. I kind of wish they’d all voted Present, but I’m much less pissed about this today than I was Saturday.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/9 @ 2:08 pm #
I hear you sdferr,
Cap’n Ed seems to think that they (Stupak et al.) were promised that the amendment would be honored, and that any double-cross of the type that Wasserman-Schultz winks to will give them cause to vote down a conference committee bill that it had been removed from. It might be wishful thinking on his part though, for I’ve seen nothing that stipulated the solemn vow of madame Pelosi to keep the measure in at all costs…
I have to be hopeful that the bill will nat even make it out of the Senate at this point. I mean, if Lindsay “sell out” Graham is saying it’s DOA, then I feel at least a bit more optimistic. But who really knows. All we can do is keep leaning on our Senators to vote against ot at this point…
And, I generally don’t waste eyeball time on Ramesh, he’s been way too squishy in the past for my tastes.
And by squishy I don’t mean apostate or RINO, just too willing to sacrifice principles for the sake of showing the voters that “something is getting done!”
Often, something not getting done is as much to show the voters too…
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 2:11 pm #
I bolded it to be “operative” in this sense, that supposing they’d have felt double-crossed means to suppose they would not have understood clearly and distinctly prior to the vote the meaning of the Repubs tactical decision to abstain or in some cases even, vote nay. Where is the double cross if the tactical nature of the decision is made plain? Nowhere, say I. McCormack and Ponnuru with him assume the worst twisting of the intentions possible, as though that is an end of the story. Bullshit.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/9 @ 2:13 pm #
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is waste of oxygen that what would never have a place in Congress if it weren’t for the liberal east coast transplanters that made Florida the shithole it currently is. The pro-gay right and pro-gun control hoochie that doesn;t understand how the very left side of the bellcurve intersection of such political positions had on the life of one of her famous constituents … Gianni Versace. She should be ashamed.
Comment by LTC John on 11/9 @ 2:20 pm #
#76 - Thank the wonderful Germans for Konduz becoming a crap hole. They were more concerned with running their classic rock radio station and getting back to the Kaserne to get at their beer than doing any messy patrolling or fighting or the like. Bah.
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 2:25 pm #
I had kinda guessed as much LTC but without more detailed knowledge withheld my guesses.
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 2:28 pm #
sdferr - Democrat opposition in such instances is usually portrayed as taking a principled and honorable position. Republican opposition is cynical political partisanship. It is what they do.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 2:33 pm #
The abortion loving dirty socialists aren’t going to not pass the bill cause of it not including abortion.
The Sleestak ones aren’t going to not pass the bill cause of it including abortion.
We just saw what happens. A select number of the most vulnerable ones get a pass to “vote their conscience.”
What annoys me is that Cap’n Ed and Pence and Cantor and the whole homopublican crew of stupid are preening about how they stood up for a Noble Principle. My ass they did. What the disturbed little pussy at National Review said is bang on.
That’s the nut of it. Pompous cowards the lot of them.
Apart from that, they tacitly asserted that the Sleestak ones are not True Zealots like themselves, and could not be trusted to vote against a bill what containethed teh Fearsome Scourge of Life. We love Jesus more better than you silly Sleestak ones lisp the homopublicans and he loves us better right back so hah.
Our little country is not in good hands.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/9 @ 2:54 pm #
“…lisp the homopublicans…”
That’s a pretty funny turn of the phrase happyfeet. Sorry such a bad episode had to bring it forth.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 2:59 pm #
I need to get this out of my system is all, Bob. Come 2010 it’s back to speak no evil.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/9 @ 3:15 pm #
They were more concerned with running their classic rock radio station and getting back to the Kaserne to get at their beer than doing any messy patrolling or fighting or the like.
Because Lord knows there are no Taliban left in the American areas of responsibility in Afghanistan.
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 3:18 pm #
Sadness is their meat, resignation is their bread
Diminishment became their playground, death became their bed.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/9 @ 3:46 pm #
You’re messing with the wrong guy snowcone. Colonel John knows firsthand of such things, and neither speaks from newssources, dogmatic talking points, or cartoons in his head…
Comment by Matt on 11/9 @ 3:49 pm #
*he’s going to find a shiv in his kidney.*
Or Hillary’s cankle up his ass.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/9 @ 3:50 pm #
Colonel John knows firsthand of such things,
Well then, given his smug, surly attitude, I certainly hope he wasn’t allowed to talk to any of our allies.
Comment by Matt on 11/9 @ 3:55 pm #
*Because Lord knows there are no Taliban left in the American areas of responsibility in Afghanistan.*
However, we’re still there and cleaning out the stables, while the germans, et all run for cover. Someone send snowcone a Moab.
Comment by Matt on 11/9 @ 3:58 pm #
You are such an unbelievable asshole. I have no idea why you’re allowed to post here anymore. You berate the regular posters, lie repeatedly, throw around ad hominems and generally contribute nothing to this site. Why do you even bother to come here ?
And I suspect if you stood toe to toe with LT.C and said some of the crap to his face you say on this board, he’d show you “surly” up close and personal. If it wasn’t for the anon of the interweb, guys like you would be getting your asses kicked on a much more regular basis.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/9 @ 4:02 pm #
guys like you would be getting your asses kicked on a much more regular basis.
There was a time when the guys with anger management problems were in charge of society, Matt.
It was thousands of years ago, but you dogs did have your day.
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 4:04 pm #
“Why do you even bother to come here?”
Precisely so that you will react just as you have done Matt. I’m surprised you haven’t figured that out already though. And with it the corollary, if you reward a behavior you will get more of it.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/9 @ 4:05 pm #
Matt,
I’m sure Colonel John is too much of a gentleman to beat down a pusillanimous putz like snowcone; and snowcone too much of a sniveling coward to say anything even remotely similar to the stuff he spews here to anyone’s face…
snowcone/parsnip practices on the cats he grooms; that way his nit-witty barbs go unanswered, and his cartoon reality is affirmed…
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 4:34 pm #
No surprise there, living as he does within silencing baffles encased in strategic cocoons surrounded by ideological padding.
Comment by Joe on 11/9 @ 4:36 pm #
Michael, Michael, Michael.
They are not afraid of you because you are a scary black man. You are not a scary black man. That is a stupid stereotype anyway. And it is obvious you are a nice guy. No one is afraid of you.
That is part of the problem.
Conservatives would feel better if the left feared you. Not for being a scary black man, but for being a committed Republican and conservative who was moving the party forward and putting the liberal agenda in jeopardy. Rahm Emanuel is a little yap dog of a man, harmless physically, but people fear him because he is a scary political infighter.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 4:37 pm #
Ace finds the Obama Berlin video.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 4:41 pm #
What else is sad and pathetic about Berlin is that not one of the speakers mentioned Reagan. Not once.
Comment by cranky-d on 11/9 @ 4:52 pm #
While we’re drifting, do you think Bush would’ve signed this bill for government takeover of health insurance? Just thinking how much I miss the guy, but damn could he spend money.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 5:11 pm #
I don’t think he would have signed a mandate. And he did veto S-CHIP expansion, so I don’t think he’d be on board with all of this. But I see your point.
Comment by Carin on 11/9 @ 5:24 pm #
I can’t get the video to work.
boo hoo. I’m in the mood to make fun of nObama.
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 5:43 pm #
Alphie/snonose/etal has previously wished harm upon LtC John, so today’s little outburst is not the least bit surprising.
Comment by Joe on 11/9 @ 5:53 pm #
snowcone does not bother me. Well less than a fly does and he is just a virtual fly, not actually a horseshit covered one going in my face. He is not worth the emotional energy other than to swat at him a bit.
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 5:57 pm #
Had they shot down the Amendment and had the bill pass anyway, then they’d have some ’splaining to do to their constituents and nothing to show for it.
To me they’d have to ’splain why the hell it was more important to TWEAK the behemoth than KILL it. Stupak shouldn’t have proposed the thing in the first place, thus to provide cover for the wavering blue dogs.
But then, the GOP is the stupid party, and they will evermore bring sporks to nuclear war.
Michael, Michael, Michael
Great music. I learned of it through LGF, before Teh Purge.
Speaking of which, and in honor of the anniversary of the Berlin Wall’s demise, I present a magnificent (if horrifyingly depressing) tome about the naive Americans who went to the Soviet Union for jobs (and to join in the Great Soviet Experiment) and were caught up in Stalin’s insanity: The Forsaken. Excellent read, even if you know somewhat concerning the Gulags, because it shows the willful blindness (and at times outright treason) of the U.S. diplomats and reporters and artists and presidents who blew off the disappearance of U.S. citizens, both immigrants and POWs (including from the Korean War), first because FDR didn’t believe that Uncle Joe could be that EEEeeeevil, and later because the USSR had nukes and that precluded any attempts to annoy the bear over people that the Soviets denied existed.
Comment by Rusty on 11/9 @ 5:57 pm #
JD. When you consider that the’cones reasoning ability can be compared to a soccer game of five year old girls- all flying feet and elbows, but the ball never goes anywhere- the LtC has little to worry about. I’m assuming his(snocone) lack of reasoning ability is equally as entertaining to his friends, if he has any, otherwise they would have told him he does nothing here, but reinforce his lack of intellect. I’m being kind.
Back on topic. “Mr. Gorbachev. Tear down this wall!” I remember the media got all tight in their sphincters that Reagan was going to make the Soviet Union mad. Instead he made them quit. Smart man that Reagan.
Comment by newrouter on 11/9 @ 5:58 pm #
mr steele accepts the left’s premise. he would be more effective if he attacked those premises. like ask if nobami hates black kids in dc public schools vis a vis vouchers.
Comment by dicentra on 11/9 @ 6:04 pm #
mr steele accepts the left’s premise. he would be more effective if he attacked those premises.
Then he would be by definition unfit for GOP leadership. Suffering from battered wife syndrome is an indispensable prereq; otherwise, the rest of the GOP would release T-cells into the system to destroy the alien organism.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/9 @ 6:15 pm #
When you consider that the’cones reasoning ability can be compared to a soccer game of five year old girls- all flying feet and elbows, but the ball never goes anywhere
My premise is simple, there’s plenty of fail to go around in Afghanistan.
For John to point fingers is rather silly.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 6:15 pm #
tweaking bad, killing good
Comment by B Moe on 11/9 @ 6:26 pm #
Snowcone worried about job security.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 6:28 pm #
You don’t have a premise, snotcone, you have a string of non sequiturs. Just fuck off.
Comment by newrouter on 11/9 @ 6:30 pm #
“Then he would be by definition unfit for GOP leadership”
ca dreaming on such a winter’s day
Comment by newrouter on 11/9 @ 6:32 pm #
that song worked years ago but i don’t dream of ca in this day and age
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 6:36 pm #
Mystery solved. The whereabouts of the GOP have been found out, finally.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 6:47 pm #
that’s so cool to where everyone i messaged that to got a little excited
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 6:58 pm #
Folks were all excited like, “Hey, maybe in good time we can give them a decent burial?” or just “Oh, hey, I’ve been wondering where they were. At least dried out like that they don’t stink so bad anymore.”
Comment by happyfeet on 11/9 @ 7:35 pm #
they were just fascinated generally… I got two 300 references… one girl thought the archeologist twins was the hook… others wanted to know if they just found the bones lying on top of the sand like that… like I would know
Comment by DarthRove on 11/9 @ 7:40 pm #
It very well could be the GOP. Those dead peepuls in the desert don’t have balls anymore, either.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/9 @ 10:36 pm #
Great find on the Persian army story sdferr, fascinating stuff. I often wonder how many antiquities are lost to time in deserts like that, in African jungles, or in South America…
Comment by SBP on 11/9 @ 10:50 pm #
Wasn’t there a Roman legion that disappeared after being ordered to march east until they couldn’t march any further, or was that just in fiction?
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/9 @ 11:03 pm #
I’ll have to look into that SBP; it doesn’t tickle any memories in the little gray cells…
Comment by SBP on 11/9 @ 11:14 pm #
I remember reading about it, but I’m not sure if it was actual history or just in a historical (or maybe SF) novel.
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 11:16 pm #
Heh, Herodotus father of history (lies, say rather) was into some fiction himself now and again.
Comment by SBP on 11/9 @ 11:48 pm #
This may be the one I was thinking of.
There’s also the Legio IX Hispana, but they went missing, more or less, during the abandonment of Britain.
Of course, the XVII, XVIII, and XIX were wiped out, too, but it’s not really a mystery what happened to them.