What is in the air today? First The Sanity Inspector links to a piece nostalgic for the loving embrace and tender ministrations of old communist East Germany, then there’s this appalling bit of intellectual and moral vapidness
Nidal Malik Hasan may have shouted “Allahu Akbar” before his murderous onslaught at Fort Hood, but his actions were part of an American phenomenon that is a national emergency. [...]More than health care, the economy, jobs, Afghanistan, Iraq, public malfeasance, private dishonesty, civil rights, disease or tainted food, mass murder is American’s primary problem and most fundamental shame. No prosperous country not riven by civil conflict has anything like our volume of mass killings. And yet for all of the fascination with mass murder in the media, in Hollywood—and among us—no politician will do more than pay lip service in condemning it. No journalist will crusade against it. No celebrity will take it up as a cause.
Nobody does a damn thing to try to stop it. Conservatives don’t want to make an issue of mass murder because then they would be confronted with the fact that nearly all of the massacres are committed by people using guns. Liberals don’t want to cry out about it because then they would have to address the fact that the violence of our entertainment—TV, movies, videogames, our proliferating apps—makes killing seem like just another strategy for coping with reality. If the utterly immoral legality of handguns and assault weapons puts killing within reach, then vicarious violence, sanctified by every corner of the entertainment culture, makes murder ethically and conceptually possible. [...]
It’s time to start asking ourselves whether our famous American freedom—in both its liberal and conservative formulations—is not actually a subtle form of dehumanizing tyranny.
Leave aside that authoritarian regimes rarely report murders, leave aside the years and decades of Islamist suicide murderers, Lee Seigel cannot even be bothered to contemplate why only 100 years ago in America, when guns were ubiquitous in American homes and even children went hunting with their fathers, mass murders were unknown.
Clue to Mr. Seigel: The bigger the Government, the smaller the people.
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 12:10 pm #
“Nobody does a damn thing to try to stop it.”
I’d wager that Siegel, just as nearly every other person in America today does all sorts of things all the time to keep himself from committing mass murder. Or doesn’t he?
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/8 @ 12:19 pm #
Looks like the breathless media memes designed to speculate just about every possible motivation under the sun other than Hasan’s ideological migration to a viewpoint held in Radical Islam took a turn to looney land with Siegal…
Maybe it’s an attempt to place a marker for use later in taking up an anti-second-amendment crusade…
You never know with this bunch’ if they only put as much thought energy into examining the facts and discerning the kernals of truth contained in them…
Too much to ask I guess…
Comment by B Moe on 11/8 @ 12:21 pm #
I think Mr. Siegel is going to need a few more clues than that, Darleen.
Comment by TXMarko on 11/8 @ 12:22 pm #
Meanwhile, in the United Arab Emirates, our Dept. of Homeland Security Chief is begging them for forgiveness…
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j8GOiUlCCnhCsRp1Xvs94KDJh8owD9BR9GPG0
Comment by Darleen on 11/8 @ 12:27 pm #
yeah, TXMarko, because there were massive riots burning down mosques, massive firings of Muslims from all manner of employment, even Muslim families were dragged into the streets and beaten by mobs following 9/11.
Comment by B Moe on 11/8 @ 12:31 pm #
Conservatives don’t
want tomake an issue of mass murder becausethen they would be confronted with the fact that nearlyall of the massacres are committed by peopleusing guns.Comment by Jho on 11/8 @ 12:33 pm #
Seigel is probably paid by the column inch.
Even when it’s sheer fodder.
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 12:35 pm #
By the column inch and not for self-humiliation, JHo? Damn, he’s missing out on some serious dough then.
Comment by Jho on 11/8 @ 12:37 pm #
From TXMarko’s link:
Aside from rampage being a very strong word, obviously there’ll never be equality until Lutheran terrorists — and for that matter, Unitarian terrorists — get equal treatment.
Petition DC, people. Do it now. They’ll listen.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 12:39 pm #
More than health care, the economy, jobs, Afghanistan, Iraq, public malfeasance, private dishonesty, civil rights, disease or tainted food, mass murder is American’s primary problem and most fundamental shame.
Nice list but he forgot muslim fundamentalists.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 12:40 pm #
Janet shall set a dyke against the backlash
Comment by Jho on 11/8 @ 12:40 pm #
With her finger in it, ‘feets.
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 12:41 pm #
Many of us did wonder what Obama and his people would do when the nation was attacked yet again, though on his watch this time. Now we know. We have our answer. It’s cringe, deflect and hide all the way baby.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 12:44 pm #
Dana is on the case again.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 12:46 pm #
what an appallingly small little president man we have… as useless a piece of shit as you’ll ever find I think
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 12:51 pm #
I’d be impressed by Obama showing sacrifice were he to set aside his disgust and personally pull the trigger on the weapon that executes Maj Hasan, should he be convicted and sentenced to die by firing squad. Best of all, do it in public in full view. Act Barry, do something real for a hopen’change.
Comment by JHo on 11/8 @ 12:53 pm #
New Jersey Rep. Rob Andrews is a shabby little panderer, and reflects precisely what’s wrong with much of the mindset in this country, which it turning reason on it’s head for its own arrogant, momentary gain: Andrews publicly and shamelessly has the gall to conflate the sacrifices inherent in a staunch external defense against various tyrannies with embracing domestic tyranny itself.
This is progressivism. How do we know? Because it is progress.
Comment by JD on 11/8 @ 12:54 pm #
Fucker lurvs to hear himself read.
Comment by geoffb on 11/8 @ 12:57 pm #
There is always by the left this distinction.
Actions by free private individuals are to be judged by one standard where murder, theft, slavery are the horrible things we all agree that they are in fact.
These same crimes, committed by the functionaries in service of or to bring into being a tyrannical socialist State are somehow judged to be a fine or at least necessary thing. Gotta break those eggs to make that omelet.
What mass killings do happen in the USA happen for the most part in places where the freedom to be armed in your own defense has been taken away in the name of protecting us from the very thing that it makes possible and likely to happen. Disarming the general population is also the prelude to a tyranny. The masters are always armed.
Comment by B Moe on 11/8 @ 1:02 pm #
lol
Comment by Darleen on 11/8 @ 1:22 pm #
hf
I also see Pat getting a littled miffed over being deliberately misquoted and his intent ignored.
Irony. Heh.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/8 @ 1:25 pm #
The bigger the Government, the smaller the people.
So Cubans are bigger than Americans?
Comment by mongo78 on 11/8 @ 1:33 pm #
So Cubans are bigger than Americans?
Cat-like typing detected.
Comment by ice cream cone on 11/8 @ 1:33 pm #
“So Cubans are bigger than Americans?”
A sphincter says what?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/8 @ 1:38 pm #
Haha,
All hail the giant Andorrans!
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 1:44 pm #
Ha-ha’s all ’round, just ran into this. There’s no need to make these assholes up, they make themselves for us every day.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 1:48 pm #
I didn’t go into that thread yet. I like how this blog here which is my favorite has pretty much stopped paying any attention whatsoever to Greenwald and even Andy. It’s time to let them settle into well-deserved obscurity I think.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 1:52 pm #
PBS whores are PBS whores. It’s who they are.
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 2:02 pm #
Late season potential buggaboo will be used to within an inch of it’s life (which may not be so very much longer) as a distraction over the coming week. Watch.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 2:04 pm #
So Cubans are bigger than Americans?
Hey, I read a while ago that the Castro clique was planning on upping the chicken quote to three or four whole birds per year. Can you imagine the ostentatiousness and luxury of such a thing?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 2:04 pm #
oops….quota
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 2:06 pm #
“Buggaboo” is a little too close to “jigaboo.” Consider this your requisite denunciation of the day, sdferr.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 2:08 pm #
can we listen to nishi’s song again it makes it better I think
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 2:09 pm #
Heh.
Ofay, Jeffersonian, whoops, okay I meant. Now I retaliate with a Maggie’s Farm Kesler post:
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 2:10 pm #
so are the other 45 stupid?
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 2:11 pm #
Naw, just intolerant spelling bigots, I think.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 2:12 pm #
rtue atd
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/8 @ 2:16 pm #
OK, I’ll try to be less long-whinded than usual…
The reason that the legacy media and nutroot blogs are desperately trying to either distract from the incident altogether or explain it away by attribution to any motivation but radical Islam is easy to deduce. If they speak about his radical Islamic ideas, then in the monds of the public this rightfully becomes the terrorist attack that it actually is; in the same vein as Timoth McVeigh…
Add to that the fact that the Federal authorities were onto this for at least 6 months, and couldn’t be bothered to communicate between the arms of government, damns by implication Obama and Holder’s professed decision to return to a law enforcement model when fighting terrorism as a failure.
What the legacy media, Obama, and the nutroots realize is that Hasan’s rampage represents the first successful terrorist attack in America since 9/11; maybe the second if you count th shooting of the army recruiters that was buried by the Outrage! of the nutroot over the xtianist terrorists that killed the oh-so-righteous Dr. Tiller.
That’s why his fundamentalist Islamic faith can’t be talked about. Becuase to do so would be to admit that the Brilliant! Obama with the infallible Judgement! had failed to keep America safe from Islamic extremism; something that the idiot Booooooooooosh! and the eeeeeeevolll Cheney managed to do for nearly 8 years…
I tried to make it as short as possible.
Comment by JD on 11/8 @ 2:16 pm #
That was cool.
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 2:27 pm #
I still like that we get a choice in monds of the public whether to go with mons, adding the d, d & s being adjacent so, mons of the pubic (dropping the l) on the one hand or minds, transposing the o for i, so minds of the public on the other. Fun stuff, spellink.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/8 @ 2:29 pm #
then in the monds of the public this rightfully becomes the terrorist attack that it actually is; in the same vein as Timoth McVeigh…
Which would mean the U.S. Army is providing safe havens to terrorists right here in America, so why are we pissing away billions of taxpayer dollars a month in Afghanistan…
Comment by JD on 11/8 @ 2:33 pm #
Fuck off, alphoie.
Comment by cynnmeyacone on 11/8 @ 2:34 pm #
Which would mean the U.S. Army is providing safe havens to terrorists right here in America, so why are we pissing away billions of taxpayer dollars a month in Afghanistan…
So you have something to bitch about…I think pissing you off is worth a billion, idiot!
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/8 @ 2:37 pm #
Ah, you can’t blame that on spelling so much sdferr, as on my crummy typing…
You see, I could always spell very well, coming up through the old school long before any form of spell-check; but my typing stinks. I was always in academically oriented programs in high school, and so focused on math, science, and foreign languages at the expense of fun electives like “shop” classes and mundane necessities like typing, business, etc…
In college I was a two-finger-hero, or got “lady-friends” to type my papaers for me, and professionally I always enjoyed the services of “administrative warfare specialists”…
A shortcoming on my part, to be sure; one that I’ve managed to enable over the years.
Do you think I could start a new victim-hood group; and maybe get government loot?
Comment by B Moe on 11/8 @ 2:37 pm #
FTFY Snowcone.
Exactly. It didn’t work under Clinton, it isn’t working now.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 2:37 pm #
Which would mean the U.S. Army is providing safe havens to terrorists right here in America, so why are we pissing away billions of taxpayer dollars a month in Afghanistan…
The real question is why we aren’t pissing away a few million a year to find and prosecute the enemy here. The deaths at Ft. Hood are due as much to woozy multiculti shibboleths as it is to lunatic Islamic doctrine.
Comment by bastiches on 11/8 @ 2:40 pm #
“War is Peace,” “Freedom is Slavery,” …
I don’t look forward to it but the people who think America is the problem will live to regret their words. I can only hope that they receive the broadside of history reasserting itself and not us.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 2:43 pm #
I think it’s mostly the lunatic Islamic doctrine. It’s in our nature to give people the benefit of the doubt. I don’t think we want a military or a society where that changes. The result would be no different than that fucked up United Kingdom place where you can’t go on a playground with your own kids. I know we like to have things to blame, but Islam owns this one I think. They should stop creating murderous fiends.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 2:45 pm #
Just stop it cold turkey. I think they’d feel better about themselves.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/8 @ 2:45 pm #
“Which would mean the U.S. Army is providing safe havens to terrorists right here in America, so why are we pissing away billions of taxpayer dollars a month in Afghanistan…”
C’mon snowcone, you know why; you suggested it in your last incarnation as parsnip…
It’s becuase us knuckle-dragging, fascist, h8teful Americans are soooooo much more comfortable with collateral damage happening to underprivaleged and oppressed brown peoples than whities in Texas…
Now run along to Kos and post your revalation of the fascist wingnut conspiracy…Or maybe make up a great narrative about how you so cunningly tricked an ex-fascist-Naval-Aviator into telling da troooooooof!
Or, you know, just titter over it with the baristas at starbucks-whatever…
I mean, based on the crazy stuff you post here I’m sure nobody would be surprised at just about anything coming out of your mouth, no matter how absurd…
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Face it you niggling nitwit, your man Obama has allowed the first mass terrorist attack on the US since 9/11; something that Boooooosh! was able to prevent for nearly 8 years.
Own it!
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 2:48 pm #
And, Bob, the perp was one of the guys who was working for Barky. Maybe he needed him some better organizin’.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/8 @ 2:49 pm #
something that Boooooosh! was able to prevent for nearly 8 years.
Um, 9/11 occurred on Bush’s watch, Bob.
Do you really want to compare Obama’s terrorist attack record to Bush’s?
Even the pig ignorant Glenn Beck fans know which way that scale would tip.
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 2:50 pm #
“you can’t blame that on spelling so much sdferr”
Oh, I don’t blame it on spelling at all, nor does it bother me in the least, far from it, as I thought I was pointing out, it makes for some fun in the repair. You’ve no worries on this score with me Bob, as I tend to like your posts just as the are.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/8 @ 2:53 pm #
Thanks sdferr,
Don’t mistake my choice of words, nor long explanation; I assure you it was sheepishly delivered in voice.
It drives me nuts when writing letters; especially some of the strange corrections the spell check offers for some mistakes!
Comment by JD on 11/8 @ 2:54 pm #
What was that about the krazy Maj having a relationship to Barcky?
Comment by ghost707 on 11/8 @ 2:54 pm #
They’ve been going at it non-stop for well over a thousand years now, I don’t think there is any disincentive for them to quit any time soon.
Especially now that they can commit acts of terror and very very few even call it terrorism now; just another problem caused by America.
They all know the narrative from Obama is to turn Afghanistan into Vietnam and withdrawal the troops. They know Obama is the perfect man to replay history in their favor.
Comment by Abe Froman on 11/8 @ 2:54 pm #
Bob is playing with you snowclown. On account of how stupid you are.
Comment by B Moe on 11/8 @ 2:57 pm #
Since or sense, Snowcone is equally lost.
Comment by JD on 11/8 @ 3:01 pm #
The Texans are a good ballclub.
Comment by BuddyPC on 11/8 @ 3:02 pm #
22. Comment by Snowcone on 11/8 @ 1:25 pm #
The bigger the Government, the smaller the people.
So Cubans are bigger than Americans?
Not the ones that have been beat down a few inches:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/11/07/cuba.blogger.detained/
Anyway, please clarify your small-Cuban-government metaphor a bit for us provincials.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/8 @ 3:05 pm #
Nice try sophistcone,
But it is accepted conventional wisdom that shortcomings of the Clinton administration as well as asinine restrictions on intelligence operatives put in place by congressional Democrats (Toricelli amendment) paid off in spades for the Islamo-fascists who committed the 9/11 attack.
And please, spare me any trooooooooofer! theories whether they be conspiracy oriented or revelations of Boooooosh!’s neglect or disregard.
The truth is Clinton went along with congressional Democrats in both gutting Americas defense, under the euphamism of “peace dividend”, and hamstringing our CIA operatives. And although Bush was too much of a stand up guy to blame Clinton by name after it happened, unlike Obama who blames every facet of modern America on Boooosh!.
Stick to revising history among the nutroots who are more than willing to do so. Some of don’t have such short memories to exploit.
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 3:10 pm #
Whoa, Colts dodged an errant bullet there JD. Onward and upward.
Comment by JD on 11/8 @ 3:14 pm #
Ugly wins count.
Comment by ghost707 on 11/8 @ 3:15 pm #
I know the feeling, Microsoft Word is constantly bitching at me with all those green and red underlines and whatnot. I spend more time fixing than actual content creation. Then, have to go back and make sure that the program was indeed not misinterpreting my thought process by being too heavy-handed.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 3:15 pm #
Not the ones that have been beat down a few inches:
It’s just downright rude, what these Cuban bloggers do. Here the Castro clique gives them food, healthcare, houses, jobs, education and all they can carp about is freedom this and liberty that. What a lack of gratitude for the efforts of their political overseers, like a penned animal attacking it keeper, it is.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/8 @ 4:03 pm #
But it is accepted conventional wisdom that shortcomings of the…
Haha, wingnut conventional wisdom?
Funny.
The Republi…er Rationalization party continues to live in denial.
Nothing is ever your fault.
Ever.
Comment by JD on 11/8 @ 4:11 pm #
Fuck off, alphie/parsnip/sniffles/actus/alphie/Neville/monkeyboy.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 11/8 @ 4:24 pm #
So the Ft. Hood incident was the Democrat’s fault?
Comment by B Moe on 11/8 @ 4:41 pm #
Unbelievable.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 4:43 pm #
the violence of our entertainment — TV, movies, videogames, our proliferating apps — makes killing seem like just another strategy for coping with reality
No. Stupid old man. What entertainment violence does is it reinforces the specious notion that people what slaughter slaughter slaughter are necessarily deranged lunatics. But that’s not what this was. This little fella in Fort Hood was a highly goal-oriented person I think, and rational. He had a plan. He executed his plan. It wasn’t a coping mechanism.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 4:44 pm #
So the Ft. Hood incident was the Democrat’s fault?
No, the guilt for the commission of the act resides with Mr. Hasan. The responsibility for the cultural and legal environment in which supposedly rational people can listen to and read Mr. Hasan’s insane diatribes and not think something was truly amiss resides solely with those who have deemed such thoughts out of bounds among polite society. It is in this sea that Mr. Hasan was allowed to swim unmolested and to plot his massacre.
Comment by Darleen on 11/8 @ 4:45 pm #
Denial? 54% to 42% oppose Democrat nationalization of American medicine.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 4:46 pm #
Well, B Moe (#69), it’s not like the guy works for Fox News or anything.
Comment by Kresj on 11/8 @ 4:47 pm #
Huh? We didn’t pull the trigger. Triggers also don’t pull themselves.
There’s one person responsible… the shooter.
The same way you’re responsible for all the asshattery that comes out of your keyboard, or do you want to blame us for your stupidity as well? I mean, if the shooting is our fault, then we’re responsible for you as well. Our mere existence causes you to become a troll, a pedantic and repetitive one at that, according to your doctinal faith.
You fanatics ruin religion, you know that? Give it a bad name and all that.
Comment by Kresh on 11/8 @ 4:48 pm #
I posted that last comment. Can’t speel my own handle, it appears. Skool wurks!
Comment by Snowcone on 11/8 @ 4:48 pm #
How perfect is it that Rasmussen tells the wingnuts exactly what they want to hear?
Comment by Darleen on 11/8 @ 4:49 pm #
Jeffersonian
It’s a plot, a plot I tell you that Christianists are USING poor Maj. Hasan in order to divide us!
PC crowd to thoughtful Americans: SHUT UP.
Comment by geoffb on 11/8 @ 4:50 pm #
The Difference:
Comment by Darleen on 11/8 @ 4:53 pm #
geoffb
just like GW met with families of slain soldiers in private over and over again. But The One has to pay his respects with a full entourage of paparazzi in tow.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 4:54 pm #
How perfect is it that Rasmussen tells the wingnuts exactly what they want to hear?
It’s pretty much the same across the board, Snowy. Live with it.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/8 @ 4:55 pm #
But The One has to pay his respects with a full entourage of paparazzi in tow.
What good’s a shout-out to the homies if the media’s not there to broadcast it?
Comment by ghost707 on 11/8 @ 5:06 pm #
I see the left have gotten their new talking points: Obama is just like Reagan!
Mara Liason and Kirsten Powers pushing that meme using a CAT D9 bulldozer.
They think once the deathcare bill passes that the Cap and Rape bill will be easier to pass; positive momentum and all that.
Right, Obama is just like Reagan, sure, because Obama doing exactly the opposite of everything Reagan did is going to bring the same results.
This shit is beyond parody.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/8 @ 5:15 pm #
DRJ brought up something I hadn’t heard before…
Comment by Pablo on 11/8 @ 5:20 pm #
Fuck off, alphie.
Comment by rrpjr on 11/8 @ 5:24 pm #
Comment by bastiches on 11/8 @ 2:40 pm #
“I don’t look forward to it but the people who think America is the problem will live to regret their words…”
No, they never regret anything; when their ephemera of power passes they just wither away in bitterness. But we will suffer. America will suffer. We will all pay the price for their delusion and self-hatred, for those who used the freedom America gave them to wield it against their own gift.
Comment by Pablo on 11/8 @ 5:24 pm #
I think Hasan started it.
Comment by geoffb on 11/8 @ 5:28 pm #
Well they both had Democrat Congresses to work with. Other than that… well… (crickets…)
Comment by B Moe on 11/8 @ 5:30 pm #
It’s like the Energizer Bunny of stupid.
Comment by newrouter on 11/8 @ 5:31 pm #
“Obama is just like Reagan!”
no pale pastels: flaming socialism
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 5:44 pm #
“It’s like the Energizer Bunny of stupid.”
Where the Bunny has his drumsticks planted firmly in his ears. He won’t hear a damned thing if he has anything to do with it.
Comment by JHoward on 11/8 @ 5:50 pm #
Pow.
Your move, snowy.
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 11:04 pm #
The PTSD by proxy meme reappears in Time, Noah Pollak gives the author the once over.
Comment by geoffb on 11/8 @ 11:40 pm #
sdferr, Gateway Pundit has it also. So the really are going to go with a Second Derivative Disorder. The one you catch by staying over-nite at Holiday Inn Express.
Comment by Seth on 11/8 @ 11:47 pm #
Freedom is a form of tyranny? Wow. Just, wow. What a twat.
Comment by sdferr on 11/8 @ 11:51 pm #
I don’t think the majority of the MSM will stick with it very long geoffb, it’s just too fucking goofy. I’m currently thinking they’ll go with “he snapped”, taking my cues from Mara and Kirstin this am, as well as a few other bullshitters I heard carrying on today. He snapped is so much simpler, doesn’t tie them to a specific (and falsifiable) diagnosis and so on. They’ll only be dragged kicking and screaming by the likes of Joe Lieberman to the obvious conclusion that the man was/is a jihadi at war with his own nation in the name of his religion. That will take months of hearings, if it is to ever happen at all. Meantime the rest of us will become ever more alienated by these idiots surrounding us.
Comment by geoffb on 11/9 @ 12:22 am #
“he snapped”
The non-explanatory explanation, delivered in a slow serious tone, by a gray haired man with his glasses down on the tip of his nose, like my Senator Levin, for serious scholarly effect.
Comment by Neo on 11/9 @ 8:35 am #
Spinning this into the PTSD storyline will be interesting.
Comment by Tom on 11/9 @ 8:39 am #
Orwellian. “Liberty” may be the most “dehumanizing” thing of all.
Sometimes one wonders if “humanizing” is remotely worthwhile. I would have to say that “governmentalizing” is a far more serious breach of humanity than letting people decide things for themselves, but who am I to disagree with our lords?
Comment by Eben on 11/9 @ 8:57 am #
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
just say it again, huh
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/9 @ 9:01 am #
What’s missing in all this lovely back-and-forth is the realization that when Snowboy says “big government” he means “government encompassing the largest geographical size.” That there be some full-metal stupid.
As to the larger subject, I think it meet and prudent to point out how ubiquitous the “thee cheers for authoritarianism!” approach becomes whenever a gaggle of people get dead by gunfire. If only we could make ever weapon illegal, and enforce a new Hayes Code, no one would die by gunfire, ever!
Is there a serious person who believes this will work?
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 9:25 am #
I BLAME THE GUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/9 @ 9:26 am #
Meya raises an important point. The difficulty of thumb-cocking a weapon makes it IMPOSSIBLE to massacre people.
That’s why Jack the Ripper never touched the things.
Comment by sdferr on 11/9 @ 9:30 am #
Penelope’s suitors sure as hell were glad there weren’t any semi-autos around in their day too, else someone might have got hurt.
Comment by Eben on 11/9 @ 9:44 am #
You mean before the ubiquity of hand-held semi-automatic weapons?
You mean back in the day when fully automatic weapons were legal?
Comment by geoffb on 11/9 @ 9:49 am #
FTFY
Gun free zones AKA serial killer free-fire zones.
Comment by SBP on 11/9 @ 9:52 am #
You mean before the ubiquity of hand-held semi-automatic weapons?
Dumbass.
Dumbass.
You’d think that SFAG would know better than to hold forth about subjects of which she knows nothing by now.
Although, come to think of it, I can’t think of any subject that she DOES know anything about.
Comment by SBP on 11/9 @ 10:04 am #
#114 Belisarius was unavailable for comment, as were Tamerlane, Jen-jiss Khan, Gilles de Rais, and Elizabeth Bathory.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 10:05 am #
Yeah, back when most handguns were revolvers, you had to pull the trigger for every round you wanted to fire.
What?
Comment by SBP on 11/9 @ 10:08 am #
SFAG only knows that “semi-automatic” = “evil”. That would be because she’s both stupid and gullible — the perfect audience for the MSM.
Comment by Pablo on 11/9 @ 10:15 am #
Scary black rifles are evil too. Better that you get yourself one like this.
Comment by geoffb on 11/9 @ 10:30 am #
Pablo’s links here are also right to the point.
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 10:39 am #
The SFAG is at it again, huh?
Comment by Squid on 11/9 @ 11:55 am #
I checked that Wikipedia list, and it didn’t have any listings for Darfur. I’m pretty sure the Janjaweed could put any of the slackers on that list to shame.
Comment by Squid on 11/9 @ 11:58 am #
And SFAG — Nat Turner’s rebellion is the driving force behind gun control. For almost two centuries, the Democrats have been worried about what the blacks would do if they were allowed to defend themselves without depending on The Man for protection.
It’s good to see you continuing the fight to keep the black man down. Times may change, but standards must remain!
Comment by Slartibartfast on 11/9 @ 12:20 pm #
That Egyptian pilot killed more than 200 people without any automatic weapon at all. I blame airplanes.
Comment by Robohobo on 11/9 @ 1:12 pm #
Lee Siegel represents what the American MSM has become. Vapid. Stupid. Blinkered. Clueless. [The rest cannot be said in this kind of forum, at least I won't say them.]
Comment by meya on 11/9 @ 1:16 pm #
“And SFAG — Nat Turner’s rebellion is the driving force behind gun control”
Had to keep those militias “well regulated” lest people get stabby.
“For almost two centuries, the Democrats have been worried about what the blacks would do if they were allowed to defend themselves without depending on The Man for protection.”
Are you counting the Nat Turner slave rebellion as blacks “defending themselves” without depending on “The Man” ? Seriously you write as if I didn’t know what it was that got Governor Reagan to support gun control in California.
Comment by JD on 11/9 @ 1:29 pm #
Is meya ever not a retarded marmoset?
Comment by SDN on 11/9 @ 2:54 pm #
meya, you used to be able to order Thompson SMG’s from the Sears and Roebuck catalog.
Comment by Rusty on 11/9 @ 5:18 pm #
So. maya, blacks shouldn’t own guns? That’s kinda racist. Don’t you think.
The lady police officer what shot the terrorist at Fort Hood Texas was five foot two, and ran toward the sound of gunfire. I like her, a lot.
Comment by Rusty on 11/9 @ 5:20 pm #
#121
A Thompson? There were places you could buy a 20mm antitank rifle!
Comment by Rusty on 11/9 @ 5:24 pm #
#101
You mean before the ubiquity of hand-held semi-automatic weapons?
Why don’t you come back when you can speak with authority on the subject.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/9 @ 5:36 pm #
meya finally made my ‘hammer list. She’s a racist that deserves to be ignored.
Comment by SBP on 11/9 @ 5:49 pm #
I checked that Wikipedia list, and it didn’t have any listings for Darfur.
Doesn’t seem to have SFAG’s heroes Hitler, Stalin, and Mao on it, either. Death by government doesn’t count, I suppose, even when it’s measured in the tens of millions.
So she just ignored her self-beclowning in regard to when semi-automatic handguns became “ubiquitous” and moved right along with Teh Narrative, eh?
Yo, SFAG: Millions of Colt 1911s and Lugers were made. Millions. Both for military and civilian use.
You moron.
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Comment by Rusty on 11/9 @ 7:43 pm #
You want ubiquitous? Try an AK47. Most wildly inaccurate piece of crap, evah.. No wonder the safty goes from safe to full, then to single. It’s got one thing going for it. You can’t break it.
Comment by meya on 11/10 @ 8:43 am #
“Denial? 54% to 42% oppose Democrat nationalization of American medicine.”
We better keep private insurance and make sure that any public plans are optional.
Comment by meya on 11/10 @ 8:47 am #
“So. maya, blacks shouldn’t own guns? That’s kinda racist. Don’t you think.”
Very. I don’t get how you go from Nat Turner and the mulford act to this.
“The lady police officer what shot the terrorist at Fort Hood Texas was five foot two, and ran toward the sound of gunfire. I like her, a lot.”
I haven’t yet figured out why there was only a cop with a firearm at an army facility. Isn’t an armed army facility a polite army facility?
Comment by SBP on 11/10 @ 5:35 pm #
I haven’t yet figured out why there was only a cop with a firearm at an army facility.
Hint: that would be because you’re stupid.
Comment by Rusty on 11/10 @ 5:51 pm #
#130
To be a wit, you first have to have some.