Last night I quoted from the usual snicker-worthy rantings from silly bint Mandy. Elsewheres in her thoughtless piece of why white men only voted against Obama because of teh racism she sniffed, of course, it was about teh gheys, too. “Gays are a threat to traditional gender roles, as well!” she posits.
They are? 3% of the population is a “threat”? And here I thought “gay” was just a description that one’s object of sexual attraction was the same sex.
So, either gays are just like everyone else (good or bad, right or left, talented or schlubs) with that one difference, or are they some exotic, alien species that needs separate and celebrated parades, university studies, bodies of literature, law and, especially, politics.
Questioning the latter has nothing do with the former.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/4 @ 9:00 am #
Mandy? Teh Ghey!
Comment by bigbooner on 11/4 @ 9:05 am #
Here in Washington state we just voted yes on Referendum 71 the “everything but marriage” law for gays.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 9:08 am #
It doesn’t take much to get a RACIST HOMOPHOBE rant out of a leftist.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/4 @ 9:16 am #
My opinion? Just like everyone else save for their lifestyle choice. But they are a special intrest group to be fetishized and elevated to a status of minority exceptionalism in the pantheon of identity politics…
That way the Democrats can peel that extra 3% off each election, or so the thinking goes…
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 9:18 am #
I am going to denounce and condemn all of you right now, just in case.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/4 @ 9:20 am #
Enh…they always do this when they lose. It reinforces their self-image as brave prophets of the truth in a sea of folly. It’s because of the bitter, clingy haterz.
Comment by Joe on 11/4 @ 9:25 am #
Gay Marriage failed in Maine because Barack Obama is against Gay Marriage!
Or maybe it was those pesky Maine Mormons acting up again?
I can’t keep them all straight. So to speak.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/4 @ 9:36 am #
Maine Mormons eat lots of mayo with their lobster.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 9:48 am #
Yep, lies and fear improve their record to 31-0 against the calm, rational National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. What else could it popssibly be?
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 9:49 am #
Anyone exit poll the black Mainers?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/4 @ 9:55 am #
Anyone exit poll the black Mainers?
They both voted to keep the godless sodomites in the closet.
Comment by Matt on 11/4 @ 9:56 am #
Comment this morning from Reynolds about a lesbian mayor elected in Texas while the gay marriage thing got shot down in Maine. Its simple. Social conservatives, on the whole, do not hate gays, do not feel gays should be discriminated against, believe in equal opportunity for gays in the workplace, etc. Its simply that marriage, for most folks, is between a man and a woman. If gays would accept this premise and move on and spend gay marriage energy and money on trying to get civil unions at state levels, they’d be spending their time better.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/4 @ 10:11 am #
“Rabbi, is there a blessing for Mandy?”
“May God bless and keep Mandy … far away from us.”
Comment by Joe on 11/4 @ 10:18 am #
David Corn compares Palin support for Hoffman to Zombieland or some other nonsense. Corn is of course completely missing the point–Dede Scozzafava was no moderate. Owens is a moderate. Dede Scozzafava is left of the Democrat Owens, so it is not all that surprising she supported him after conservatives “outed her” so to speak.
Predictably for anything anti Palin, Andrew Sullivan liked Corn’s analysis. Well, pigeons like picking corn out of crap, but that does not make it good to eat.
And ultimately those princes of Maine, those kings of New England, voted to defeat gay marriage, following the example of President Barack Obama–who is and supposedly remains against gay marriage (until of course it is politically in his favor to support it). That my friends is called character.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/4 @ 10:32 am #
Fox News, some Fla bint (D) was spinning like a funny car warming up it’s tires.
Hit every talking point.
These people are boring.
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 11/4 @ 10:54 am #
But they are a special intrest group to be fetishized and elevated to a status of minority exceptionalism in the pantheon of identity politics…
At least try to show some empathy, Bob: take away Progg fetishes and all that remains of Progg “principles” are Progg phobias.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:26 am #
Mainers are racist and prolly Mormon, and apparently have the same view of this issue as Teh One.
Comment by Kresh on 11/4 @ 12:17 pm #
Oddly enough, I’d say that it shows the opposite.
I’m trying to think of the last time a Pro-Gay organization actually tried to show how gay marriage would actually help society. I’m thinking that type of message would go over better than the “ZOMG! I’M BEING OPPRESSED BY TEH HOMOPHOBES!11!ELEVNTEY!” message we hear every time.
Insanity, I do believe they call it.
Comment by meya on 11/4 @ 12:29 pm #
“I’m trying to think of the last time a Pro-Gay organization actually tried to show how gay marriage would actually help society.”
It’s almost as if gay people aren’t part of society.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 12:36 pm #
It’s almost as if meya/RD wakes up every afternoon with the goal of being dummerer than the day before.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 12:54 pm #
Funny how that happens when you spend a few decades demonizing Middle America.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 12:59 pm #
I think it’s Christians that are outcasts in this society.
Comment by McGehee on 11/4 @ 2:13 pm #
FTFY.
Comment by LTC John on 11/4 @ 2:26 pm #
“Well, pigeons like picking corn out of crap, but that does not make it good to eat.”
Thanks for that. I may never eat an ear of sweet corn again.
Comment by buzz on 11/4 @ 2:37 pm #
““Funny how that happens when you spend a few decades demonizing Middle America.”
Ever since that stonewall shit.”
Your statement as it stands makes no logical sense. Can you try to elaborate?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 2:50 pm #
Like everything else to a libtard, their mascot special interest groups always carry the mantle of moral superiority associated with being a victim, even while they are projecting an aggressive posture. That’s howcome they support cop-killer Wesley Cook, who gunned down that straight white jackbooted male.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/4 @ 2:53 pm #
Less than 10% of white males in Mississippi and Alabamay voted for Obama:
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/11/white-men-are-not-very-progressive.php
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 3:00 pm #
Surprisingly, the “White Men are to Blame for Everything” platform is not very popular with . . . white men.
Comment by Squid on 11/4 @ 3:02 pm #
I wandered over there, and noticed that Yglesias & Friends didn’t spend a lot of time on maps showing how many blacks voted for the white guy. Anyone know why?
Comment by BJTexs on 11/4 @ 3:04 pm #
Aaaaaaaand …. what percentage of the African American vote did Obama get, alphie?
Oh and RACIST!
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 3:07 pm #
Because blacks aren’t people that you can hold accountable for things. They’re like angels come to earth to confirm liberals’ inflated self-perceptions. In fact, that 95+% of blacks voted for Brackabama is proof that the other guy was blowing racist dogwhistles, which I have found are not available at any retail stores.
Comment by White Guy on 11/4 @ 3:12 pm #
“Surprisingly, the “White Men are to Blame for Everything” platform is not very popular with . . . white men.”
What do you mean? Didn’t he just say that we didn’t vote for Obama? How can we be to blame for that
I’m confused.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/4 @ 3:16 pm #
Yea, Alec. sorta like Teh Gheys refusal to picket black churches in California when blacks went over 70% for prop six. Let’s pick on the convenient Mormons and Catholics rather than the local Baptist church.
I wonder why that was?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 3:21 pm #
Well, certain Catholics. Not the ones with the hairnets and switchblades . . . cough, cough - wink, wink - nudge, nudge.
Comment by kelly k on 11/4 @ 4:32 pm #
“Not the ones with the hairnets and switchblades” Are you talking about my grandma?
“If gays would accept this premise and move on … ” You’re making the mistake of thinking that this is actually about marriage.
Comment by Kresh on 11/4 @ 5:28 pm #
Hey, people who use the term “Gaping Hatchet Wounds” to refer to female genitalia probably shouldn’t pretend they’re part of polite society. Well, that and when they have that parade without their pants. I think the point of the whole parade is to be without pants, or something pants-less. WHERE ARE THEIR PANTS? HOLY CRAP! HOW IS THAT NORMAL! WHY SHOULD THESE PEOPLE BE ELIGIBLE TO ADOPT ANYTHING? I DON’T TRUST THEM WITH PETS!
People without pants in public get locked up, for a reason, because it means they’re crazy. Didn’t these people have grandparents to teach them right from wrong, and crazy from non-crazy?
Mind you, if you’re not a “no-pants-in-public” gay person, I couldn’t care less if you’re gay. I’ll buy you a beer, maybe even let you hit on me for a while, if you’re subtle and good at it. That makes you normal. It’s those freaky weirdos that demand attention merely because they’re gay that give everybody the creeps.
You want marriage laws passed that support gays? Purge the freaks and weirdos. Prove you’re normal, and that your matrimony will be a boon to society, instead of just a couple of spoiled freaks that want to pretend they’re normal. That will get you what you want. The straights aren’t holding you back… you are.
Comment by meya on 11/4 @ 5:34 pm #
“Hey, people who use the term “Gaping Hatchet Wounds” to refer to female genitalia probably shouldn’t pretend they’re part of polite society.”
Sure they can. We can call them “equity feminists.”
Comment by No one you know on 11/4 @ 5:47 pm #
I’ve said this before, it wasn’t too long ago, that gay friends of mine would playfully (or maybe not) refer to me as a breeder. They would revel in their non-monogamous lifestyle. Funny, that to this day, they seem to think that marriage will not end their multiple partner lifestyle. So what is this all about?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/4 @ 6:10 pm #
“There are people in straight marriages that think so too.”
[raises hand in back]
Um, meya?
Married 30 years.
Never been unfaithful.
So why don’t you just fuck off, moron.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/4 @ 6:20 pm #
Hey, people who use the term “Gaping Hatchet Wounds” to refer to female genitalia probably shouldn’t pretend they’re part of polite society
What about Ace’s description?
Who the hell knows what’s going on down there. It’s like H.R. Geiger giving up ink and canvas to work in the avant-garde medium of Play-Doh and bacon.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/224115.php
I don’t think the wingnuts really want to be part of America anymore.
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 6:29 pm #
Have any of the trolls addressed the fact that His Whollyness Barack Obama is OPPOSED TO GAY MARRIAGE?
Didn’t think so.
Comment by Rusty on 11/4 @ 6:41 pm #
Gay people who miss no chance to remind you they’re gay, are annoying.
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 6:57 pm #
I mean, given that the DEMOCRATS CONTROL BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENCY, shouldn’t they be busy working on Barky and his crew of thugs, rather than trolling over here?
They can legalize gay marriage any time they want. Just as they can pass “free health care” any time they want. And stop “global warming” any time they want.
They’re not doing any of those things, though. Why?
Blaming “Republicans” is laughable — they have a filibuster-proof majority.
It couldn’t be that Plastic Jesus, Crypt-Keeper Reid, and Granny Botox are COWARDS?
Perish the thought.
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 6:58 pm #
Gay people who miss no chance to remind you they’re gay, are annoying.
See also: vegans who miss no chance to remind you they’re vegan.
Cultists are annoying, no matter what kind of cult it is.
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 7:06 pm #
Don’t forget atheists. The ones we have had lately are about to drive me back to church.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 7:21 pm #
They don’t care, even though Barcky’s opposition is theocratic, as he claims his religion informs his politics. Why does Barcky hate teh ghey?!
Oh, and STFU snotnose.
Comment by newrouter on 11/4 @ 7:32 pm #
“I don’t think the wingnuts really want to be part of America anymore.”
no we don’t want lunatics tinkering with our Ferrari
Comment by McGehee on 11/4 @ 7:36 pm #
Whereas a guy who constantly tells everyone he’s straight…
Comment by McGehee on 11/4 @ 7:36 pm #
Oh shit, I just invoked tohr again.
Comment by Darleen on 11/4 @ 7:47 pm #
RD/meya
people who are gay are definitely a part of society. They have the same rights and same access to marriage as any one else. Marriage = one of each sex. Nothing in the code about orientation.
Oh, a person wants to have a committed relationship with someone of the same sex? Cool. Just don’t call it marriage. Male and females are not fungible and, as such, a same sex couple is not the same as an opposite sex couple.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 8:01 pm #
I don’t like gay marriage but I don’t want to be on the same team as goof-assed piece of shit Republican haters like Jim DeMint.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 8:02 pm #
Is there anything more disgusting than the Republican party really?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 8:03 pm #
Someone linked something today to some Republican shithead it was really nauseating.
brb.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 8:12 pm #
it was this… I really don’t get who thinks like that…
…poor kid is all I had to say about it.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 8:13 pm #
oh.
we ought to set fire to him
it says in the comments… who the fuck are these people?
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 8:16 pm #
They can legalize gay marriage any time they want. Just as they can pass “free health care” any time they want. And stop “global warming” any time they want.
They could outlaw the Republican party, if they had the stones, and there is nothing anyone could do to stop them. They have the votes, they just can’t get it done. So much easier to blame it on the evil republicans.
At some point Barcky needs to take the training wheels off his presidency.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 8:18 pm #
Oh, and I see snocone links to Ace. Come on by for the Flame War tonight.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 8:35 pm #
Don’t get me wrong I’d vote Mr. DeMint for president of our little country and be fairly enthusiastic about it but in large part I fear it’s cause I’ve already grown accustomed to the president of our little country being a piece of shit and see no reason to believe that will ever necessarily change. Being presented with a choice between dirty socialist Chicago street trash and Meghan’s coward daddy can really make a fella lose faith in the future of his little country.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 8:39 pm #
I don’t like polar bears dying, but I really don’t want to be on a team with Henry Waxman. Though that might be cause I don’t like taxes either. Or nostrils that look like the Holland Tunnel.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 8:41 pm #
Word. Find me a goofy, socially inept accountant or something. I’ll bet we could even get Nishi behind a good geek.
Comment by Rusty on 11/4 @ 9:06 pm #
51.Comment by McGehee on 11/4 @ 7:36 pm #
Gay people who miss no chance to remind you they’re gay, are annoying.
Whereas a guy who constantly tells everyone he’s straight…
I’ve never run into anybody like that. But if you have to constantly remind others that you’re straight, you’re probably not…………….straight.
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 9:08 pm #
#63 I wonder why Steve Forbes has never run again?
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 9:12 pm #
#65: Yo, SFAG: Go tell it to your Personal Lord and Savior, Barky Hussein Obama. He’s the one who has the power to make your dreams come true. Not Darleen.
Even if you convinced her, it wouldn’t matter. Or are you planning to pull your lying crapweasel act on every single person who’s opposed to gay marriage on an individual basis? If so, that will certainly give you a hobby (ideally, one that will keep you too busy to inflict your idiocy on this site).
Talk to Barky, girlfriend. He’s the man you have to convince. Also Cryptkeeper and Granny Botox.
Of course, it COULD be that you don’t give any more of a shit about gay people than you do about black people, instead simply seeing them as convenient props for acting out your feelings of rage over your personal inadequacies (namely being as stupid as a bag of hammers and so crooked that you probably have to screw on your shoes in the morning).
Barky’s your man. Talk to him.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 9:14 pm #
Steve Forbes. Now there was a man.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 9:16 pm #
you think I’m kidding. He knew what was important.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 9:17 pm #
I see, the only opinions that count are those of a noble “minority,” by virtue of being less in number than those with the opposing point of view. Neat how that works. You really can’t counter this argument - mostly because you need to avoid addressing how homosexuals aren’t all decendents of immigrants from the Grand Duchy of Fagonia. Homosexuals aren’t a distinct kind of people with a discrete homosexual identity.
I don’t think you know what fungible means.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 9:18 pm #
Yes, we’re all wonderfully individual! Now, back to biology…
You like science, right?
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 9:20 pm #
Well, except for being opposite sex.
What was that whooooooshing sound?
Comment by meya on 11/4 @ 9:27 pm #
“I see, the only opinions that count are those of a noble “minority,” by virtue of being less in number than those with the opposing point of view.”
It’s not really “the only opinion that counts.” It’s like, what they’re asking for. Sure the anti-gay opinion counts: we’ve just seen the effect of that in Maine. What makes Darleen’s argument so warm and fuzzy is that it’s in fact the opposite of what you just said to me. It is the complete ignorance of what the gay folks want. It is as if the gay folk’s demands for equality are precisely what doesn’t count. As if their demands can just be defined away and they’ll be satisfied.
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 9:28 pm #
Of course, it COULD be that you don’t give any more of a shit about gay people than you do about black people
And it also could be that deep down in your black little fascist heart you know that Barky sees you as nothing more than a useful idiot (well, except for the “useful” part).
What are you going to do, vote for the Republican next time?
He’s buttsurfing you, girlfriend.
How’s that Gitmo closure coming along? Troops still in Iraq and Afghanistan? Gay marriage we’ve been discussing. Dope legalized yet? Any of the rest of the “progressive” agenda enacted yet?
‘Cause from what I can see, the only things Barky has done is give massive amounts of public money to Wall Street and corrupt union officials.
A true man of the people, that Barky.
Comment by meya on 11/4 @ 9:29 pm #
“Well, except for being opposite sex.”
And in wanting to get married. So you see where that gets us.
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 9:29 pm #
It’s like, what they’re asking for.
I seem to recall you, like, asking Blowbama to pay off your student loans.
Hint: that’s not going to happen, either.
Comment by Darleen on 11/4 @ 9:32 pm #
RD/meya
same-sex couples should be able to have a body of law that covers by default all those things that marriage statutes cover. It just should not be called “marriage”, because it isn’t.
The people in favor of NOT changing a historical, pre-political institution are not the radicals here.
Comment by Darleen on 11/4 @ 9:34 pm #
and RD/meya?
I am not defining away something that same-sex couples ever had. EVER.
Marriage has ALWAYs been heterosexual.
Of course for SOME gays, it really isn’t about marriage at all.
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 9:35 pm #
BTW, I’m on record as opposing government involvement in ANY kind of marriage.
Civil unions for everybody, say I. Whether you want to call it a marriage is up to you and your church (if any), but that shouldn’t have any impact in the secular area whatsoever.
The state’s role should be limited to recording and enforcing the contract in matters such as property rights and child custody.
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 9:36 pm #
I think separate but equal is a fantastic step forward.
I think you should go talk to your Personal Lord and Savior about this.
Oh, he’s not returning your calls?
Not to worry. I’m sure he’ll start pretending to care about your feelings around, oh, November of next year or so.
Comment by Darleen on 11/4 @ 9:37 pm #
And in wanting to get married
and a 65 y/o can “want” as badly as a 25 y/o of joining the military. Guess which one is going to be disappointed?
Marriage is a public institution, limited in all manner of ways.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 9:39 pm #
Well, I don’t see an awful lot of asking. I see thumbs in ears and foot stomping, and lots of calling of names, and a good bit of nefarious judicial forum shopping. If they’d just ask nicely and politely, I’d say ‘no’ with a smile and we could all get on with other things.
I suppose the rub is that many don’t see these demands as demands for equality. They’re demanding that lots of people pretend along with them and agree that the sky is green and that 2 + 2 = 5. It’s very Stalin-ey, I find. The “persuasion of power” if you will.
Comment by Darleen on 11/4 @ 9:39 pm #
you want to call it a marriage is up to you and your church (if any),
but it doesn’t work that way, SBP. If radical gays don’t get to call it marriage, they won’t be able to harass churches that won’t marry them and have clergy that call their lifestyle “sinful” prosecuted for hate speech.
Comment by Darleen on 11/4 @ 9:42 pm #
I think separate but equal is a fantastic step forward.
then I guess you are all for the banning of sex-separate bathrooms, locker facilities, sports, schools, clubs, associations and all manner of award shows.
Since you think male and female are fungible.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 9:43 pm #
I have to give you an “ata-girl,” Darleen.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 9:45 pm #
In fact, people are not fungible and no opposite sex couple is the same as another opposite sex couple.
Ten pounds of stupid crammed into a five pound bag.
Meya, if you wish to make the axiomatic point that all opposite sex couples have differing sets of fingerprints, I yield it to you. Beyond that, they have one thing in common. I’ll leave it up to your superior intellect to figure that out.
Homosexual advocates had it won with civil unions. That is if the ultimate goal was equal legal rights. The goal, however, is and always has been, acceptance. That goal is now 0 for 31.
Comment by Darleen on 11/4 @ 9:48 pm #
come on, RD/meya, with your superior it’s all about the equality I’m sure you advocate the abolition of Title IX. Let girls and boys compete for the slots on the same team! None of this awful “girls sports”. How DARE they!
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 9:48 pm #
Hey look, it’s almost like they’ve been up to something nefarious the whole time:
Comment by meya on 11/4 @ 9:52 pm #
“Marriage has ALWAYs been heterosexual. ”
Sometimes it’s been polygamous. But it seems like you understand exactly what gay folks are asking for. Just don’t pretend you can just define away their ask.
“Since you think male and female are fungible.”
Never mind. I don’t think you quite get it.
“I’m sure you advocate the abolition of Title IX. Let girls and boys compete for the slots on the same team! None of this awful “girls sports”. How DARE they!”
Didn’t I just tell you that separate but equal was fantastic?
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 9:53 pm #
Have you ever had a Hershey Bar, meya? They are great, its a marriage of chocolate and chocolate.
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 9:54 pm #
Yeah. What she said.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 9:59 pm #
Since Libtards are always nattering about diversity, and stocking different venues with a sprinkling of Lesbian Tongans and Diabled Pigmys and such, one would think they’d understand the argument in favor of diversity in marriage, no?
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 9:59 pm #
Why does it have to be called a marriage, meya?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 10:01 pm #
It’s not why, so much as by whom.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 10:02 pm #
Never mind. I don’t think you quite get it.
No, we get it just fine. We don’t like it much, neither does your president, a fact that you have studiously ignored. In fact, Spies brought it up way upthread and asked you to comment. It’s almost as if you are being…disingenuous?
Comment by Snowcone on 11/4 @ 10:03 pm #
Even Allahpundit and Patterico are in favor of gay marriage.
What we have here is a wingnut Alamo.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 10:05 pm #
Come on, Meya. Why does the president hate gays?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 10:05 pm #
They’ve got us surrounded with all of their electoral wins in favor of teh ghey marriage.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 10:09 pm #
Even Allahpundit and Patterico are in favor of gay marriage.
Wow! Then we should all just fall in line?
What we have here is a wingnut Alamo.
You might want to pick up a history book to find out what happened after the Alamo. I’ll help you a bit.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 10:12 pm #
Just in case you don’t want to click on the lick snowy, who is the ghey Santa Anna?
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 10:27 pm #
You know who is against gay marriage? That dirty socialist Chicago street thug you put in the White House.
IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!!!!!
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 10:31 pm #
One of my questions has always been why, after fighting for the abolition of an archaic Patriarchal institution for ownership of women for so long, you have turned on a dime and are now demanding that it be inflicted upon all those awesome fashionable gheys?
That is, unless the Ghey marriage is somehow a step towards the abolition of marriage as we know it?
What do you say, meya?
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 10:32 pm #
Why I had no idea.
Now why doesn’t that surprise me. Answer Spies’ question, meya, or go away.
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 10:32 pm #
Ever?
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 10:37 pm #
On second thought, meya/rd/alphie/snowcone, why are you here debating this? Your party has the executive, a large majority in the house, and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. How come you haven’t fixed this yet? What’s stopping you?
Comment by meya on 11/4 @ 10:41 pm #
“One of my questions has always been why, after fighting for the abolition of an archaic Patriarchal institution for ownership of women for so long, you have turned on a dime and are now demanding that it be inflicted upon all those awesome fashionable gheys?”
Can we start from the beginning and you explain how gay marriage is “patriarchical” or “inflicted” on gay people?
“Now why doesn’t that surprise me. Answer Spies’ question, meya, or go away.”
Sorry I answered his question on trafficking victims and he was a dick about it so I don’t answer his posts anymore.
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 10:43 pm #
No. In the beginning marriage was an archaic Patriarchal institution for ownership of women. Are you saying marriage is different for gays?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 10:44 pm #
I think you can review fifty years of feminist orthodoxy on your own, meya.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 10:45 pm #
Sorry I answered his question on trafficking victims and he was a dick about it so I don’t answer his posts anymore.
So answer mine. Why are you here and not going after your president? You do know his stated position on the matter?
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 10:49 pm #
Don’t tell me, meya, that you’re of the mindset that it is the evil Xtianist white mormon devil, all the while ignoring the demographics of the opposition? Imagine my surprise.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 10:50 pm #
Civil unions for everybody say I too.
Comment by meya on 11/4 @ 10:53 pm #
“No. In the beginning marriage was an archaic Patriarchal institution for ownership of women. Are you saying marriage is different for gays?”
If you explain to me how gay marriage is “patriarchical” or for the “ownership of women” then I’d be able to address these problems for gay marriage. Otherwise I’m afraid I don’t see how they apply. Is this a flaw of gay marriage or a feature?
“I think you can review fifty years of feminist orthodoxy on your own, meya.”
I’m not familiar with feminist orthodoxy, be it contemporary or from 50 years ago, that argues that gay marriage is “patriarchical” or “inflicted” on gay people. I have never read any, but I suspect that literature on this topic would actually say the opposite.
“So answer mine. Why are you here and not going after your president? You do know his stated position on the matter?”
You want me to go leave comments on his blog? Sure I’d like all our politicians, not just our president, to be in favor of gay marriage.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/4 @ 10:54 pm #
what happened after the Alamo.]
No need to click the link, every Yankee knows the tale.
Texas stabbed the people who liberated them in the back and turned traitor state.
That’s a stain that will never come out.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 10:56 pm #
Gay marriage whatever. It was an issue awhile ago kind of but that was before our little country was taken into the bushes by the dirty socialists and had unspeakable things done to it to where it shakes a lot and won’t make eye contact. We have bigger fish to fry now. Just that mandatory sick pay crap alone is gonna put so many people put of work. That’s one of those let’s not let the swine flu “crisis” go to waste even if the dirty socialist media has to make it up things.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 10:56 pm #
Is it different from your typical hetero marriage? Are not all marriages equal?
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 11:03 pm #
Sorry I answered his question on trafficking victims
Liar.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 11:04 pm #
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Comment by Snowcone on 11/4 @ 10:54 pm #
what happened after the Alamo.]
No need to click the link, every Yankee knows the tale.
Texas stabbed the people who liberated them in the back and turned traitor state.
That’s a stain that will never come out.
Son, I don’t so much blame you as I blame your parents and every teacher of history you have ever had. You have been ill served. To put the term ‘Yankee” with “Alamo” shows an absolute ignorance of history.
Do you do this for fun or are you really this stupid?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 11/4 @ 11:05 pm #
Ghey marriages are actually superior, because they’re not about ownership of women. You’ll be lucky if the gheys allow you to get married some day.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 11:05 pm #
That was a silly thing to say about Texas. Texas our Texas all hail the mighty state I think.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/4 @ 11:08 pm #
I blame your parents and every teacher of history you have ever had.
Did the wingnuts erase Texas joining the Confederacy from those freakish “textbooks” you force on your kids?
Now that takes cojones!
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 11:08 pm #
Texas our Texas so wonderful so great.
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 11:09 pm #
In any case, the fact remains that the people here have no power to legalize gay marriage.
Plastic Jesus, Cryptkeeper, and Granny Botox do.
I mean, we all know that SFAG and NippleNut are dumber than a special needs King Charles Spaniel, but how dumb is this?
It’s like trying to get the city council to pass an ordinance against nuclear proliferation.
Oh, right: they do that too.
The one thing that might save us from these fascist fanbois and fangrrrlz is that they’re just so damned stupid and incompetent.
“Hey, we got Berkeley, California to declare itself a nuclear-free zone!”
Comment by SBP on 11/4 @ 11:10 pm #
Ghey marriages are actually superior, because they’re not about ownership of women.
Heh… anyone who’d really believe that has never seen a jealous lesbian.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 11:11 pm #
Plastic Jesus is a coward plus also black people are notorious homophobes. I think Jim DeMint might could be black. I’ll google.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 11:21 pm #
You brought up the Alamo, snowy. Do your “freakish” textbooks tell you the difference between 1836 and 1861?
Once again you have beclowned yourself. You should probably stop now. But you won’t.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:21 pm #
Yankees win.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/4 @ 11:23 pm #
Yankees win.
Again.
haha
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 11:28 pm #
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:21 pm #
Yankees win.
As much as I dislike the Yankees, I dislike everything Philadelphia more. Can’t help it. I’m a Cowboys fan. Rumor has it that we actually have an MLB team here. I can’t verify that, however.
Comment by Big D on 11/4 @ 11:31 pm #
Do you need a calculator to find out how many years between 1836 and 1861 snowcone?
Comment by maggie katzen on 11/4 @ 11:58 pm #
but… but… WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF TEH KITTEHS?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/5 @ 12:12 am #
The virus also has been confirmed in two ferrets — one in Oregon and the other in Nebraska — but they died.
who investigates ferret deaths? THey don;t live all that long really. That’s so odd. This must be the tip of the dead ferret iceberg you’d have to think.
Comment by maggie katzen on 11/5 @ 12:15 am #
oh geez, maybe there’s millions of goldfish that have had H1N1. or hamsters.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/5 @ 12:19 am #
it’s the silent killer is what they say I think
Comment by JD on 11/5 @ 1:05 am #
Days where BigD comments are better than days where he does not.
Comment by JD on 11/5 @ 1:21 am #
Yes. When BigD comments it is a good day.
Comment by B Moe on 11/5 @ 7:09 am #
How come those Yankee dogs at the Alamo massacre weren’t tried for war crimes, is what I want to know.
Comment by A fine scotch on 11/5 @ 8:05 am #
In light of St. Mandy of the Vagina Warriors’ outlook on life, I thought this WSJ op-ed piece by John Steele Gordon was rather interesting: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703932904574511250528884932.html
(Sorry. HTML-fu; I dozen’t haz it.)