The statist, illiberal Left has cynically indulged in risible conspiracy theories for years about mainstream Christianity plotting a theocratic takeover of America. But the so-called “Religious Right” in America has nothing on the Church of Anthropogenic Global Warming and its Pope Al Gore. The Goracle has the backing of governments to enforce his theology and is enriching himself through the sale of phoney “green” indulgences.
Few people have been as vocal about the urgency of global warming and the need to reinvent the way the world produces and consumes energy as Mr Gore. And few have put as much money behind their advocacy and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes.Critics, mostly on the political right and among global warming sceptics, say Mr. Gore is poised to become the world’s first “carbon billionaire,” profiteering from government policies he supports that would direct billions of dollars to the business ventures he has invested in.
The Goracle already lives like a potentates of old while attempting to force the hoi polloi to into cramped, meager and controlled lifestyles.
What.A.Surprise.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/4 @ 8:23 am #
Oh, Darleen, The Goracle ois entitled to porcine lifestyle. He’s done so much good to educate and berate to save the planet that his pig ugly humongous footprint and greedy delusional business ventures (he pays his personal carbon offsets to his own company, don’cha know) are a small price for the peasants to pay as they shiver in their energy saving hovels due to government thermostat controls.
You no love Mama Gaia
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 8:24 am #
To put this in perspective, Al Gore’s assets were listed at about $2m in 2000.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 8:27 am #
Walk the walk, Al!
“We can unite on principles!” Heh.
Comment by Joe on 11/4 @ 8:28 am #
So the Gorecle took his 2 million of carbon blood money from his father’s oil stocks and has grown that through a carbon free ponzi scheme into a billion–at the cost of the rest of us who have to pay for it.
So why is only Madoff in jail?
Comment by Carin on 11/4 @ 8:37 am #
Fuck al Gore. With a swordfish.
I have no use for that sack of shit.
[shuffles off with shoebox slippers]
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/4 @ 8:42 am #
Perhaps if we’re all lucky, the days of this connovance will soon be over; at least here in the US. It’ll be broken on the back of the coolest winter in 10 years, replete with surprising early and late snow events similar to the one in Colorado during the NLLDS and most recently, and will be followed by subsequent similar winter seasons. And regardless of how much they want to call it “climate change” or “pollution control” we have to beat them over the head with the AGW cudgel; by both snide remarks, not letting a conversational expression of surprise at the wintry weather pass without remarking “must be all that global warming” as well as stridently challenging anyone who insists on giving voice to the connivance in a public forum with both the facts as well as the common sense anecdotes that everyone in the audience can mentally latch on to…
And it doesn’t hurt to point out, 1) that Al Gore has gotten rich by swindling us all, and 2) why won’t the potentate of pollution, that Czar of climate, that woise man of weather Al Gore debate lord Monckton on the issue? In my humble opinion, that last tidbit is the one that should raise some eyebrows…
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 8:42 am #
That is quite a racket algore has set up for himself. I guess he is a good rich old white male, because his intentions are pure.
Comment by sdferr on 11/4 @ 8:53 am #
Isn’t it possibly a worse thing that the so-called green energy projects Gore promotes are uneconomic and must be subsidized, distorting markets and delaying development of more economically sensible means of energy production, thus wasting vast sums of capital potentially put to better use, a waste which is unseen yet in the aggregate many times the sums that we deride in the Goracle. It is sickening to watch.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 8:54 am #
But he brought Peace unto the world just like the little president man what we have now.
Comment by bigbooner on 11/4 @ 9:07 am #
Cheeseburgers aren’t cheap. The man has needs.
Comment by newrouter on 11/4 @ 9:21 am #
“Climate change belief given same legal status as religion
An executive has won the right to sue his employer on the basis that he was unfairly dismissed for his green views after a judge ruled that environmentalism had the same weight in law as religious and philosophical beliefs.”
uktelegraph
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/4 @ 9:23 am #
Seperation of Church and State!
Comment by Joe on 11/4 @ 9:36 am #
Al Gore also got an inside track on Google and other silicone valley investiments from “friends” following the 2000 election. Those sad days when Al Gore had to reinvent himself. Al Gore says what these friends like to hear and they help Al Gore. Al washes his friends hands and they will wash Al’s hands. Al lets those friends get behind him, and maybe they will give Al a reach around. That is how it works for Al Gore.
Comment by Eben on 11/4 @ 9:45 am #
Does it require more faith to believe Christ rose from the dead or that we can tell, within a hundredths of a degree what the global, average temperature was 1000 years ago?
Which person reacts more violently, a typical evangelical when told that the Bible is a myth or your typical environmentalist, when told that AGW is a myth?
Comment by Rose on 11/4 @ 9:47 am #
B-I-I-I-I-G PROFIT. Forget ShamWow, Gore has created a whole new line of pitchman/marketing strategies. Sell Planetary fear, then laugh all the way to the vault.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 9:52 am #
Some theocracies are more equal than others.
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/4 @ 9:57 am #
sdferr @ #8,
That’s a fascinating thought! Something I’ll have to ponder a bit more, and consider how to measure the amount of capital wasted through subsidy and market distortion…
Kind of like the golf cart tax subsidy http://powip.com/2009/11/and-they-came-in-golf-carts/
I know that you disliked my suggestion once that some form of subsidy be offered for converting residences to solar power, where applicable, in order to free up grid capacity for areas where it’s not practical, like large cities; as opposed to wasting large areas for “solar power plants”. While I understand the danger of this, I still believe it would be the most serious action that could be taken as a society to move toward the widespread use of renewable sources and would generate a lot of new jobs, both short term in conversion and long term in servicing the systems. While I understand objections to this, it would be a lot better than the whole golf cart debacle…
Personally, I think as a society we should move toward nuclear power for the bulk of electrical generation…
All the best
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/4 @ 9:57 am #
Eben,
The environmentalists react more violently…
Comment by Rich Cox on 11/4 @ 9:59 am #
Who is John Galt?
Comment by sdferr on 11/4 @ 10:01 am #
“…better than the whole golf cart debacle…”
No governance by reference to one disastrous policy as better than another disastrous policy seems in the least appealing though Bob. Sheesh.
Comment by sdferr on 11/4 @ 10:07 am #
“…[action]…taken as a society…”
Is almost fit to be a definition of “uneconomic” venture. If something is undertaken by a group of individuals risking their own capital in order to service a market and make a profit, I say go for it. But the expectation that the polity ought to underwrite the venture is tantamount to saying “Let’s burn money! Yay! Cheers!”
Comment by Kevin B on 11/4 @ 10:07 am #
Have a read of this Tim Blair post in which Fat Al admits that he can’t persuade people with facts so he’s gone back to being a holy roller snake-oil salesman.
The fat one also talks about how he’s just found out that CO2 is only responsible for 40% of MMGW with soot and methane doing the rest, thus knocking the whole ‘consensus’, ’science is settled’ malarky on it’s head and inadvertantly trashing all of his pal Jimmy Hansen’s models which don’t take no account of that but ‘model’ twentieth century warming perfectly, (with a few volcanoes scattered here and there and provided you squint at the graphs with one eye closed).
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/4 @ 10:26 am #
sdferr,
Please don’t mistake what I’m saying because of the clumsiness of my expression. I’m not necessarily advocating the whole solar power tax credit idea. But simply putting it forth as being more efficient than any of the schemes for windmills etc. that I’ve seen so far; and all would have to be based on the premise that “we have to do something!” is not fundamentally a phony crisis in the first place.
It was only a nerdy engineering thought experiment based on a hypothetical situation; not my idea of a sound policy prescription.
Comment by sdferr on 11/4 @ 10:32 am #
Very good Bob. But I hope you can see the implication of “top-downishness” in the thought experiment, even if it is only tacitly taken up for the sake of the hypothetical.
Comment by geoffb on 11/4 @ 10:38 am #
At the moment it is so far about money, lots of it, but the end goal is power. The power to set up a global “carbon empire” with a small hereditary group of “lordling” and the much more immense group of serfs/slaves.
The previous smaller scale tryouts, based on some different but similar levers of power, all have the same version of “peace”. Here is one from the series of peaceful scenes I posted the other day. Peace, it has you for dinner.
Comment by TheGeezer on 11/4 @ 10:40 am #
It’s all Algore’s revenge for 2000.
A pretty good gig, actually. Money. Few headaches. The worship of lib minions obeying the late 1900’s lib template that the stupid are being exploited by the smart satanic (and, incidentally, carbon-spewing) industrialists and must be rescued by self-sacrificing enlightened ones. Ironic, ain’t it?
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/4 @ 10:41 am #
You’re absolutely right sdferr,
The ideal situation would be for a power company facing the need to expand it’s infrasturcture to offer the incentives instead of the government…
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/4 @ 10:46 am #
The ex-VP is only putting his money behind his convictions …. whats wrong with that?
The ex-VP is only seeking to unfairly distort the marketplace to benefit the investments he has already made …. WHATS WRONG WITH THAT?
Funny how we never hear from the CheneyHalliburton screechers on this point when it comes to the fat fuck tabakky farmer from Tennessee.
Comment by sdferr on 11/4 @ 10:53 am #
“…a power company…”
And these have so long been penetrated by the hands of government doing its regulation business that we today little notice the interference and distortions built right in, making the enterprise uneconomic for decades going on centuries of poor capital allocation. Price itself is controlled by utility commissions and the like. A more fucked up rent-seeking system we could hardly devise.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 11/4 @ 10:54 am #
Halliburton stock locked up in trust is sooooooooooooooooo much more egregious than Kleiner Perkins Caufield Gore investing in smart meter technology right before the US Dept of Energy announces massive subsidies to smart grid technology …. about 15% of which went to the Kleiner client. Hmmmmmmmm Hmmmmmmmmm.
Allo, Allo? Is dis da SEC? Ja, I hav und problem to report.
Comment by MikeT on 11/4 @ 11:06 am #
Is there room on this issue for someone like me who doesn’t deny the scientific reality of anthropogenic global warming, yet I see Gore’s mission, cap and trade, and all the rest of these schemes as bogus? Or do I have to walk in lock step and be a science denier as well?
Comment by geoffb on 11/4 @ 11:09 am #
This is the kind of “green” power I support. Japanese firms to develop small nuclear reactors.
Comment by sdferr on 11/4 @ 11:09 am #
“…the scientific reality…”
You wanna go with that one?
Comment by geoffb on 11/4 @ 11:13 am #
The AGW side is the “science denier” side. Consensus science is politics using a veneer of the word “science” as a cover for a political power grab scheme.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:19 am #
That was not even a good effort, MikeT. Fail.
Comment by Squid on 11/4 @ 11:25 am #
I wouldn’t care if you believed that the earth was warming because Gaia Herself was allergic to CO2 molecules, Mike. But poking the commentariat with phrases like “scientific reality” or “science denier” probably isn’t going to win you a lot of respect.
I’m still perfectly willing to buy into the idea of AGW, but I subscribe to the hoary old precept that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence,” and I gotta say that the evidence presented so far is not extraordinary.
How about we stick with the premise that Al Gore and his buddies are a bunch of scumbags using AGW as a lever to promote undue government control and to enrich themselves thereby, and leave the thinly-veiled “flat-Earther” mockery aside?
Comment by DarthRove on 11/4 @ 11:30 am #
Based on all available evidence, I am convinced that Al Gore cares very little about actually saving the planet and very much about gaining filthy lucre by getting government to steal it for him.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:30 am #
What Squid said. Mr Squid is always so much nicer than I, as my first instinct was to point out that he’s a douchenozzle.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:35 am #
Speaking of theocrats, Crissy Mathews had quite the rant last night while talking to Kanter where he pretty much went more krazy that normal and called Palin a whacky theocrat.
algore is eating those carbon offsets, I believe.
Comment by Abe Froman on 11/4 @ 11:36 am #
MikeT is a cafeteria gaiaist.
Comment by MikeT on 11/4 @ 11:36 am #
I do agree Gore arguments are not accurately based in science nor are his schemes to counteract climate change, however, I am more skeptical about the conspiracy theories to control the world through the war on climate change. I prefer to get my science from data and not from politicians. It is difficult to ignore several data streams that all point to the same thing. Just like some people will still say, “human evolution is only a theory, not a fact.” Such statements are very revealing.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:39 am #
No, your dissembling and mendoucheity is quite revealing. You do a poor job of hiding it.
Comment by Squid on 11/4 @ 11:39 am #
It’s not enough for me to point out the douchenozzles. Lately, I seem to be taking it on myself to illuminate the douchnozzlery in as saccharine a tone as I can manage, to make it clear to any Dear Readers what’s really going on.
In this case, it was a simple “I agree with the argument but you guys suck” gambit. Actually pretty well done, as Mobys go, but still deserving of being called out for what it is.
Plus, I thought it better for the thread if we concentrated on the area of agreement: Gore is a robber baron, in every sense of the word. Better to hammer that home than to get caught up in a discussion of the relative merits of AGW science.
Comment by sdferr on 11/4 @ 11:42 am #
Arthur Eddington’s 1928 Gifford Lecture, preface and introduction. Have you read it Mike? Does it suggest anything when you do?
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:43 am #
Squid – I wonder if the leftists ever get even a hint of cognitive dissonance when they are railing about THEOCRACY while worshipping at the altar of AGW, or when they rail about old rich white males while the likes of Soros, algore, and Michael Moore lead them around by their noses.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 11:43 am #
Then how did you come to subscribe to the notion that CO2 causes warming? It wasn’t science.
Comment by Squid on 11/4 @ 11:45 am #
It is difficult to ignore several data streams that all point to the same thing.
And yet, how many data streams are there that point to the War On Carbon as another power-grab by central government technocrats?
It’s human nature to give more credence to data streams that reinforce our beliefs, but this shouldn’t be license to ignore the ones that don’t.
Tell you what: I’ll examine your evidence in support of global climate change, if you’ll examine my evidence in support of government over-reach. Deal?
Comment by SDN on 11/4 @ 11:47 am #
MikeT: are you willing to admit that there is evidence against AGW? A yes or no will suffice.
Comment by geoffb on 11/4 @ 11:47 am #
Ah, yes. Believe in AGW or you are like, and quite possibly are, one of those Xtian creationists.
Correct. Your statements are.
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 11:49 am #
The evolution card on only the second post.
Comment by MikeT on 11/4 @ 11:55 am #
I just asked a question and I guess you answered it, and the answer is revealing. The war on Gore does not interest me. Science does. Now I can see what we’re dealing with here, pretty much lock step. I imagine many here are the “human evolution is only a theory” – type of thinkers.
Pablo, thank you for the article from David Evans. You might be interested to note that Evans is an electrical engineer, not a climate scientist and the article you linked has been soundly debunked. (I see a lot of this. It’s like grasping at straws, a desperate search to find any agreement in the scientific community no matter how ill conceived).
Cheers.
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:55 am #
How good are data streams when the underlying data is flawed, skewed, hidden from peer review, and in general, a pile of hoo-ha?
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 11:58 am #
I was only asking questions and your answers were revealing in that they confirmed my original hypothesis that MikeT is a douchenozzle.
Comment by sdferr on 11/4 @ 11:59 am #
I frankly don’t see that you are interested in science Mike, whatever you may claim to the contrary. You look rather more the poseur to me.
Comment by Abe Froman on 11/4 @ 12:00 pm #
MikeT minimizes the author as an electrical engineer and links to a “debunking” by a computer scientist. You can’t make this shit up.
Comment by Squid on 11/4 @ 12:02 pm #
MikeT, I congratulate you on your successful effort to turn the discussion away from Gore’s shameless and hypocritical self-enrichment, and into an indictment of the commentariat’s scientific curiosity.
“Correct but stupid” is almost as compelling as “fake but accurate.” Bravo.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 12:04 pm #
An electrical engineer? Huh.
What on Earth was he doing in that gig?
Really? By Tim Lambert?
You’re funny, MikeT.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/4 @ 12:05 pm #
MikeT, there’s a whole lot less agreement in the scientific community than you think or seem to want to recognize. Not that agreement means much in science. Most of the lack of agreement comes from people not releasing their data and algorithms and relying on bald assertion. And fudging data.
I’d link, but I get the idea that a link to ClimateAudit would put me in the “thinks evolution isn’t real” camp in your eyes.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 12:07 pm #
Hey, my dog ate my data! No, really! And it was totally excellent, which is why you wouldn’t want to turn iot over to a bunch of savages.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/4 @ 12:08 pm #
So can we get back to calling Al Gore a skeezy money-grubbing tub of lard that can’t see his Tipper tapper anymore for all the carbon-producing steaks and airline meals he’s forced down his dirty socialist gullet?
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 12:08 pm #
Careful analysis of the data lead you to that conclusion?
Comment by MikeT on 11/4 @ 12:21 pm #
Pablo, some info on the ‘rocket scientist’ you cite:
FYI, according to his own resume, Evans has not published a single peer-reviewed research paper on the subject of climate change. Evans published only a single paper in 1987 in his career and it is unrelated to climate change. Evans has published an article for the Alabama-based Ludwig von Mises Instutute, a right-wing free-market think tank.
Evans also published a “background briefing” document for the Australian chapter of the Lavoisier Group, a global warming “skeptic” organization with close ties to the mining industry.
Thought you’d like to know.
I’d suggest getting your information from world climate labs. Here’s a list from several countries.
* CCSR/NIES: Center for Climate System Research (Tokyo)
* CCCma: Canadian Center for Climate Modelling and Analysis
* CSIRO: Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation
* Hadley Centre: Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research
* GFDL: Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory
* MPI-M: Max Planck Institute für Meteorologie
* NCAR PCM: National Center for Atmospheric Research
Comment by Spiny Norman on 11/4 @ 12:22 pm #
DarthRove
Exactly. To the Green Left, massive conflict of interest is a feature, not a bug.
.
Debunked… by Tim Lambert? Really? You’re gonna go with that?
LOL! (literally)
The problem, Mike, is that “the reality of anthropogenic global warming” is an utterly false statement. The hypothesis of “anthropogenic global warming” is based on computer models that can’t get the climate of next year right, let alone 100 years from now – for a very simple reason: the data input into these computer models is incomplete, biased, cherry-picked and possibly completely faked.
Comment by Abe Froman on 11/4 @ 12:24 pm #
Ooh. The old “close ties to the mining industry.” Earth rapists!
Comment by Eben on 11/4 @ 12:29 pm #
Ahh yes, the whole ‘appeal to authority’ jig.
Never seen that before.
Also, the peer-reviewed literature is ass.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 11/4 @ 12:31 pm #
Good grief, that lame trivia again. Speaking of the conflict of interest angle, try comparing the millions spent by the “Carbon Polution Industry” with the Billions in government grants the climate fearmongers have fleeced taxpayers for.
The reason it’s obvious that the “Climate Change” hysteria is just that, hysteria, is because their proposed “solution” to Save the Planet is, what? A Tax. This is not about “climate”, it’s about “redistribution of wealth” on a global scale. Until you rent-seeking fearmongers decide that Chinese “carbon polution” is as bad as American “carbon polution”, I can’t take a single word you say seriously.
Comment by Kresh on 11/4 @ 12:33 pm #
Evans also published a “background briefing” document for the Australian chapter of the Lavoisier Group, a global warming “skeptic” organization with close ties to the mining industry.
Yes, because a report from an industry that would be adversely affected by bad science is somehow less reputable than reports from people who have an interest in destroying said industry. Nice bias you got there.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 11/4 @ 12:33 pm #
The “peers” doing the “reviewing” are limited to those who already hold the same opinion – the “man-made climate change” mountebanks.
Comment by Pablo on 11/4 @ 12:37 pm #
A single paper? According to his own resume? I take it back, Mike. You’re not just funny, you’re hilarious.
Why? Is there some data in there? Or is it just the “Booga Booga!” factor? Not very sciency, that.
BTW, Evans expertise is in modeling, which is the entire basis of the AGW hysteria.
Comment by Eben on 11/4 @ 12:40 pm #
the data input into these computer models is incomplete, biased, cherry-picked and possibly completely faked.
Kaufman truncated Korttajarvi in 1810 to avoid most of the modern disturbances, then converted all 23 of his series to z-scores, and averaged over the available series to get a composite z-score for each point in time, with Korttajarvi upside down. Then he regressed this on temperature, and then inverted this regression to convert the composite to temperature.
An example of said data.
Comment by Eben on 11/4 @ 12:47 pm #
I’d also like to get MikeT to set me straight on the whole evolution thing, if he has the time.
Believing that one species can evolve into another, without having never witnessed the act, is fact.
Believing that some spaghetti monster poofed everything into existence, without having ever witnessed the act, is fiction.
Do I have that right?
Comment by Squid on 11/4 @ 12:56 pm #
Guys, he’s studied the evidence carefully, and he’s come to the conclusion that AGW is real. That’s his right, and I’m not gonna give him too much of a hard time over it. I mean, I used to believe that a strong central government would provide services efficiently and fairly over a large population of disparate actors, so I don’t have a lot of room to criticize.
What’s important is that Mike’s also put a lot of consideration into the evidence that the Climate Change warriors are using the current public consternation to advance a slate of policies identical to the policies they’ve always wanted. Namely, the power of life and death over entire industrial sectors, and even entire countries. After giving the accumulated evidence his attention, he’s determined that our concerns about giving up vast amounts of power to an already bloated, inefficient, corrupt, unaccountable and ineffective bureaucracy are without merit, and indeed are better described as “conspiracy theories.”
My reading of the historical record led me to the opposite conclusion. So, in the interest of fairness, and to further my own understanding, I’d like to invite Mike to share with us the methods by which he’s turned the available evidence into a conclusion that we’re all overreacting.
Over to you, Mike. Dazzle me!
Comment by cranky-d on 11/4 @ 12:56 pm #
The models are bad, the data is cherry-picked, and all the proponents seem to ignore the fact that temperature on Earth seems to closely follow sunspot activity. The earth has been warmer than it is now, and colder than it is now, all without our help. Also, the amount of CO2 release in a year by humans is dwarfed by the CO2 released by volcanoes. Shall we plug the volcanoes as well? Finally, even if you buy the AGW crap, according to the UN global warming commission, we would have to stop driving cars, using any electricity, basically all productive activity all over the world for the next 33 years just to avoid a one degree increase in temperature in the next 100 years. Billions would die. Billions.
The left has wanted to come up with a way to transfer wealth to other nations for decades, apparently because they are full of guilt and shame for being prosperous. AGW is just another way to do that.
If you were really serious about this AGW crap, you would be screaming for nuclear power, and while I think AGW is bunk, I would totally join you in clamoring for more nukes.
Comment by BJTexs on 11/4 @ 12:58 pm #
Some things are worse than arguing with “settled science” guys:
From Today’s Phillie Inquirer rag:
Kill. Me. Now.
Comment by Squid on 11/4 @ 12:58 pm #
So can we get back to calling Al Gore a skeezy money-grubbing tub of lard that can’t see his Tipper tapper anymore for all the carbon-producing steaks and airline meals he’s forced down his dirty socialist gullet?
On the one hand, ewwww. On the other, “Tipper-tapper” is genius!
Comment by JD on 11/4 @ 1:05 pm #
Tipper-tapper is brilliant. Did you know that Love Story was written about them?
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 1:05 pm #
Other Guy brought in a living being he found on the freeway. Little wupper. OG actually pulled over to the side of the freeway to rescue the little guy. He was cowering into the median thingy, scared scared scared. And he has a big gash on his head and blood dripping down his little puppy face. So far he won’t eat or drink anything and we gave him NG’s roast beef even. OG is taking him to a vet at 12:30. That gash is really deep to where he might could have a cracked little puppy skull. Hopefully not but he needs stitches for sure and whatever you do to huge gashes to where they don’t get infected.
Comment by ice cream cone on 11/4 @ 1:11 pm #
“You’ve landed in moronsville, the home of pseudointellectuals who just loves them some pseudoscience.”
Waaaaah!!! I’m an angry stalker. Waaaah!!! I’m a jobless loser. Waaaah!!! I was trolling here hours after my mother died. Waaaah!!! I paid for sex in the land of women who place ads begging for westerners. Waaah!!!! I’m an attention whore.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 11/4 @ 1:15 pm #
Enough about you, thor. Do you have anything to add to the discussion, or are you just attention-whoring again?
Comment by Eben on 11/4 @ 1:17 pm #
You should know by now that lock step is part of their mental condition. They can’t help it.
Ah yes, being against the lock-stepping consensus is lock-stepping.
Comment by ghost707 on 11/4 @ 1:29 pm #
Let’s see,
in the ’70’s it was: we are going to freeze to death!
In 2000 it was: we are going to bake to death!
In 2008 it was: global warming causes global cooling! Thus: Global warming = climate change!
It is settled all right; real science got left out and pseudo-science was made to wear a short skirt and fuck-me pumps in order to increase Al Gore’s girth and wallet alike. Gore won’t even debate anyone. Cowardly fuck that he is.
No charts or graphs needed to show that a large pile of horse manure is in fact a large pile of horse manure.
Al Gore: The new Enron!
Comment by Eben on 11/4 @ 1:39 pm #
I guess it takes a lock-stepper to know one.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/4 @ 1:42 pm #
There’s a 35-mile long rift that opened up in the Ethiopian desert, possibly a new sea in the making. They’re calling it the Al Gorge.
Heh-heh.
Comment by Carin on 11/4 @ 1:44 pm #
Crap, how did Thor get back in?
Comment by DarthRove on 11/4 @ 1:48 pm #
Big OT: Carin, I hear you’re into the raised-bed gardening. I was wondering if there was a preferred way to prepare the bed for winter. I’m planning to remove the old cherry
Comment by Spiny Norman on 11/4 @ 1:49 pm #
Test.
Comment by Carin on 11/4 @ 1:50 pm #
I don’t know if there is much of a difference, really. I’m just mulching over. Leaves, etc. Put ‘em to bed nice and peaceful-like.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/4 @ 1:52 pm #
Big OT: Carin, I hear you’re into the raised-bed gardening. I was wondering if there was a preferred way to prepare the bed for winter. There are a lot of old cherry tomatoes that are lying on top, I was going to throw mulched leaves over the top for winter then till it up in spring. Does that sound reasonable or is there something else I should do.
Besides sacrificing a Lincoln Town Car to The Goracle to ensure a good harvest, that is.
Comment by DarthRove on 11/4 @ 1:53 pm #
Stupid netbook with the stupid buttons all close together.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 11/4 @ 2:00 pm #
Is it me, or does thor sound like a lame parody of himself? His stuff just doesn’t bite the way it used to. He sounds tired and half-hearted.
Comment by agile_dog on 11/4 @ 2:02 pm #
Obviously, tohr decided crapping all over Dan’s place wasn’t enough anymore – he has to come back here to display his mad reasoning skilz. Really, tohr, if this is “moronsville, the home of pseudointellectuals “, why taint yourself with it? Or is your pathetic life so bad that attention, any attention, even the scorn and ridicule from commenters here, gives it some meaning?
Comment by DarthRove on 11/4 @ 2:04 pm #
That’s one thing…I haven’t been to Dan’s in a while, but maybe t–r finally wore out his welcome there and this is the only open forum left where he can shit through his keyboard.
Comment by McGehee on 11/4 @ 2:09 pm #
I seem to recall he was explicitly and repeatedly invoked in a recent thread until he manifested. That’s what kids say happens when you stand in a dark room and say “Bloody Mary” thirteen times.
Me, I always stop after twelve and call a cab.
Comment by ghost707 on 11/4 @ 2:18 pm #
Thor,
I was merely pointing out that you AGW theocrats have cried “WOLF!” too many times.
History is a bitch ain’t it.
Al Gore is now actually doing more harm than good to his own argument. He is an intellectual light-weight.
When it was inconveniently pointed out that C02 does in fact not precede temperature increases, Gore became persona non grata to a majority of thinking people.
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 2:22 pm #
Keep the puppy warm ‘feets, he is probably in shock.
Comment by agile_dog on 11/4 @ 2:25 pm #
Me, I always stop after twelve and call a cab.
That’s why I alternate between brews and Bloody Marys – you can stay longer, And I no longer am fond of those dark, dingy bars of my youth.
As for Mister Gore, I must admire, to some small extent, the absolute stones it takes to try and perpetrate such a fraud on all of us, and get the UN and US goverment to back him up on it.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 11/4 @ 2:58 pm #
#93 agile_dog
Meaning? No, in his little adolescent mind, he thinks it gives him Power™.
Comment by ghost707 on 11/4 @ 3:09 pm #
If we are lucky, Gore will have a rare moment of shame for his own MASSIVE CARBON FOOTPRINT while flying to Copenhagen on his Gulfstream V, and go to the cockpit and tell the pilots to shut down the engines for an hour – for Gaia.
Comment by agile_dog on 11/4 @ 3:11 pm #
No, in his little adolescent mind, he thinks it gives him Power™.
And that, I am afraid, is the saddest part of all. I do pity him.
Okay, I’m over it.
Comment by Matt on 11/4 @ 3:52 pm #
*His stuff just doesn’t bite the way it used to*
he doesn’t bite, he gums like a toothless trailer park whore. Or like his mom. Whichever is more skeezy.
Comment by The Lost Dog on 11/4 @ 4:20 pm #
As Dennis Miller said the other nice: “The only thing that is causing global warming is the smoke coming out of Al Gore’s ass”.
Comment by geoffb on 11/4 @ 4:44 pm #
If they just keep the same user name then yes. It gets harder with the willfully ignorant and the the ones who may even know the truth but lie anyways for their own personal reasons. They are always changing names and IP addresses to spout old lies anew.
Comment by ghost707 on 11/4 @ 5:36 pm #
Since Thor is such an expert on supercomputing, maybe he can shed some light on why all those Elpida Hyper IC chips are having such a high failure rate.
Or maybe he can help with the mystery concerning the difference between the X38 and P45 chips with regard to ram voltages and transfer rates.
Is it a capacitance/resistance problem, instruction problem?
I mean, help me out here thor, do we really need to raise the frontside bus and cpu termination voltages so high just to get the ram to operate at specified frequencies? We have already ruled out latency factors. Is it a design flaw? Can’t be, because the traces have all been verified even beyond rated frequencies.
Surely you must know thor.
Comment by Rusty on 11/4 @ 6:27 pm #
They cite previous science, often before the advent of supercomputer modeling.
One more time for the truly brain dead.
Modelling works….up to a point. As the data imput approaches infinite the chance of aquiring any useful data approaches zero.
From a climate modelling standpoint there simply is NOT enough data. 100 years isn’t even a scatch and most of the early data is suspect.
Objective scientific proof does not include opinion or relying on missing or doctored data. Specifically Greenland ice core data and rocky mountain spruce tree ring data.
And oh yeah, steel can’t melt.
Comment by Spam Heap on 11/4 @ 6:37 pm #
He lied to us!
He played on our fears!
Etc.
Comment by dicentra on 11/4 @ 7:00 pm #
Who is John Galt?
How in Sam Hill should I know. Do I look like a phone book?
Comment by McGehee on 11/4 @ 7:31 pm #
Do we know if John Galt even lives in Sam Hill? He might live in the next town over.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 7:43 pm #
hey B MOe – we took the puppy to the vet and he got sutures and groomed and he came home to the office and ate all NG’s roast beef he’s a very lucky pup… named RK… inaptly, happily
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 7:43 pm #
B Moe I mean
Comment by Rusty on 11/4 @ 9:00 pm #
What flavor of dog is it,feets?
Comment by B Moe on 11/4 @ 9:14 pm #
Great to hear. I have rescued a few orphan puppies I found by the highway and they all turned out to be great dogs. They understand on some level what you did for them and really appreciate it.
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 9:17 pm #
it was a little cocker… how he got in the middle of the freeway has to be a terrible story – he wasn’t exactly up with people today….
Comment by happyfeet on 11/4 @ 9:17 pm #
neither was I come to think of it